Sprayer is a complete waste of time if you have walls that are not white.....i can roll three rooms in an hour one coat purfect but stiil do a second coat because i am old school....zero complaints...new world sprinter painters i wouldnt wipe my arse with one.
Prep work is piss poor, the site agent should be on his back for that, and I still think brush and roller is faster than masking/spraying/and cleaning out equipment (but I am old school)
Until you try it you don't know trust me I spray and I'm telling you it's around 10 x quicker than brush and roller and that's including masking up and taking the protection down
@@camdecorations9779 I agree with you mate, being spraying for years. I find that people who cant spray always put it down saying its shite. Give it a go lads i am old school as well but appreciate the spray gun. Get with the times or be left behind.
@@djd353 yeah I'm going t o get one tritech do one which takes any roller arm and sleeve whilst graco jet roller you can only use there arms and sleeves pretty much like android vs iPhone the tritech one is more adaptable to other brands than the graco .
Mistcoat properly before anyone goes in the plot and you’d save hours taping up everything would be done. Just cutting in frames,!skirting boards and windows after the joiner 2nd fixes and you’ve made your job ten times easier with or without a spray gun. I don’t understand why you all wait til the house is finished that’s backwards no matter what we make sure we’re the first in to mist coat
Hi, in the middle of spring a whole house, it is quick once it is all masked up but the fums are a bit strong with oil based under coat and gloss, that's the only thing but emulsion is fine. I am doing it my self to save money I think I need to change trades, as I can only earn as a chef £10 an hour I am getting very frustrated with this trade its not one I would recommend its rubbish but keep going thanks for showing this.
A nice fella he might be but just another one of the army getting good money for doing shoddy work and once the Governor realises how much he is paying him all the prices will come down so he’s doing none of us any favours
You have to get spraying if you aren't already, thats one thing ive noticed across the trades here in aus, and uk is the uk is a long way behind us with methods etc. And we are still way behind the USA. Ive got plenty of family who hate the spray gun us younger painters barely touch a brush. A lot of that stuff your showing you just gap at the end and one coat with a brush and done. What you need is a decent amount of time on a spray gun and a guy who can learn to mask in front of you. Things like the stairwell you can stick an extension on spray the corners and even the wall section then roll up into it when doing the stair case. So you don't have to scaff stairwells etc. And the older guys that are anti-spray its just because you dont know how to use it. Theres a bit in using right tips etc FFLP is how you go. Also the sprayer you can use a power roller, which is a massive time saving also, as there is no roller tray. So you can just stick a long line on the airless and have no tray can get up onto roofs into awkward areas much quicker. When your going for lunch just take out the pressure stick a couple of plastic bags around it, then start again later. I also leave the spray in the paint sometimes for days and put a drop sheet around the tin, take the pressure out, then turn the tip on its side which seals the paint in the nossle or you can take the tip guard off and just leave it with the tip in water. It also eliminates picture framing on walls, which in high light areas is unavoidable with a brush and roller.
Several weeks ago I was quoted £3750 for 6 days work by a decorator, when I attempted to contact him to discuss how he had derived at this figure, he simply refused to answer his phone. I guess he feels he’s in such a position he does not need to explain his quote. Second quote I got was £1600 for the same job
I'm exactly the same if I dont like the person and I dont like the job I quote big, as for asking for an explanation I would of told you to fuck off and explain the wage you earn to me.
The firm i'm on for have a fair few lads who spray now, and they all reckon it's 100% worth it, i mean this geezer is obviously a bit greedy, the blokes i know who spray plots reckon they shave around 2 days off each plot, which is fair enough and it is less work than brush and roller, maybe it's the future? But you do have some good points on the downsides of spraying em out
@@camdecorations9779 the pessimist in me reckons spraying is a bubble waiting to burst see, it's going to become the norm eventually, and when most painters are spraying i think either gafas or builders are gonna start cutting prices, I've seen it on a few firms with mist coats, 1 price to roll and a lower price to spray, based on, "well your doing it in less than half the time". If that logic ever crosses over to plots I think it could be a tricky transition. Hopefully that's just me seeing the glass half empty, and I do really like the idea of spraying so hopefully prices stay good and we all get rigs and earn a fat fortune! That would be nice
@@tobymoran2047 its possible its crossed my mind as well the more painters spray the greedier the bosses get it happened to the chippys when nail guns came in , but lit's down to us to say no I'm not spraying that unit for that price . I honestly think the price won't go down but I do think the price won't go up either , where a salty bunch all hell would break loose if they try to reduce the price.
600 a 2 bed plot.2 days graft.coining it in.im bashing 3 and 4 bedders with ensuite s for same price.white ceilings .grey walls.white woodwork .5 days plus snagging.can this guy get me some work.lol.dont agree with spraying new plaster myself.first coat doesnt absorb aswell compared to rolling and brushing.sounds to me like his foreman hasn't got a clue about decorating and is just letting him get on with it.your right tho it's about the finishing touches but not the best finish there.no exuse for not caulking up properly at least for that king of money
@Geno Paints .routine never changes no matter how many bedrooms it is.thinned down white emulsion to all bare plaster.caulk up round door frames skirting s and prime bare woodwork.can usually do that in 8 hour day
The sockets are usually filled with ammes by the making good guy to cover the poor cutting out by the plasterer so if you loosened the screws you would be fucking up his work
I always loosen screws on sockets.if plaster cracks or out I fill them before cutting round them.i ve had call backs where I used to just cut in round them and then customer or someone has to take socket off for something and then gaos have appeared round them.site manager had me back to make them good at my expense when should if been electrician back cause he d cut them wrong or even plasterer
This is the normal sort of shit work that, that type of painters do. The builders don't want to pay for good work, although in this case they seem to be paying well. Is the cost of the paint coming out of this? Paint costs a bloody fortune these days.
@@mmack3286 no thinking required? And “so relaxing”? You’re clueless. You think we just stroll in jobs and pull out a brush and roller and that’s us done? Lol
Look rough as fuck if he's got to go back and snag he ain't making 2 k next week sound like hes got a good kid with him who's probably saving him 600 a week hope hes giving him a few quid
Would love to see one of your plots easiest thing in the world is to snag someone else's work plot dont look bad couple of bits but what's a bit of caulk you just jealous cos u cant hit that money if u have to work weekends (like u say u do ) ur past it pal
By the way it's not down to him to supply lights it's down to the site , why should he waste his money because the site ain't organized enough to supply power
There must be another 4 days snagging he's got to come back and do ....its alright saying hes earned 2 bags in a week but next week he'll be earning sweet FA......absolute shite !!!😂
£2000 pound a week whats the matter with that i make that every week if u are willing 2 do full houses for a thousand pounds for house bashing more fool u house bashers no good money in it
Mate why don’t you stop sticking your nose into other blokes plots and slagging them off there is always one prick onsite who wants to know everyone’s business #brokenjaw
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We can all be twice as fast , if we do half a job 😀
Its going to take longer to snag that plot haha
Nice one. Thanks again
A serious snag list was thus produced by the site agent.
Best thing about that plot was the doors that the lad done?
"Little attention to detail. " You've got too much heart mate! 😅
You fighter ,yasss
Is that a finished job?
This type of work on this type of site is probably the only place you get away with so poor a finish👁️👁️
He’s having a lend.
Typical house bash. Shocking.
Decorators 🙄
Get a life ffs. What are you doing man
Do the same if the money bothers you
This is one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen
Sprayer is a complete waste of time if you have walls that are not white.....i can roll three rooms in an hour one coat purfect but stiil do a second coat because i am old school....zero complaints...new world sprinter painters i wouldnt wipe my arse with one.
Here in the USA we spray everything and actually anything. As long as it's not alive or green.
In the US even the front yards are sprayed green 😉
and tape everythiing up because u cannot do straight lines
No tape. 48in stiff aluminum Hyde sheild and a high skill set.😝
@@kellystevenson4612 old school here in the uk brushes and rollers
@@clintmannion5598 All made in the USA 🇺🇸 Purdey, Wooster, etc
He would have sprayed the walls and ceilings and then spent 2 minutes back rolling them
You'd think he could afford a caulk gun earning 2k a week 😂
Prep work is piss poor, the site agent should be on his back for that, and I still think brush and roller is faster than masking/spraying/and cleaning out equipment (but I am old school)
Bad mutherfunster
I agree ☝️
Until you try it you don't know trust me I spray and I'm telling you it's around 10 x quicker than brush and roller and that's including masking up and taking the protection down
@@camdecorations9779 I agree with you mate, being spraying for years. I find that people who cant spray always put it down saying its shite. Give it a go lads i am old school as well but appreciate the spray gun. Get with the times or be left behind.
What about sprayers connected to rollers? Opinions please?
@@djd353 yeah I'm going t o get one tritech do one which takes any roller arm and sleeve whilst graco jet roller you can only use there arms and sleeves pretty much like android vs iPhone the tritech one is more adaptable to other brands than the graco .
If you can handle the fine dust than spray pisses on roller. The finish is on another level if you do it properly.
I can do one of them units in 3 days brush & roller easy.
Mistcoat properly before anyone goes in the plot and you’d save hours taping up everything would be done. Just cutting in frames,!skirting boards and windows after the joiner 2nd fixes and you’ve made your job ten times easier with or without a spray gun. I don’t understand why you all wait til the house is finished that’s backwards no matter what we make sure we’re the first in to mist coat
Hi, in the middle of spring a whole house, it is quick once it is all masked up but the fums are a bit strong with oil based under coat and gloss, that's the only thing but emulsion is fine. I am doing it my self to save money I think I need to change trades, as I can only earn as a chef £10 an hour I am getting very frustrated with this trade its not one I would recommend its rubbish but keep going thanks for showing this.
That is standard. Rapid work big money. Anybody can work for fuck all. Top lad that painter.
........and we thought you were the fastest in town !
A nice fella he might be but just another one of the army getting good money for doing shoddy work and once the Governor realises how much he is paying him all the prices will come down so he’s doing none of us any favours
That grafts as rough as a badgers arse🤣🤣😂😂😂
Pure council bashing.
Nice one mark
Is he using an airless sprayer or handheld?
That's shite if anyone left my job like that they wouldn't be working again
What happened to your sprayer?
So what would he earn if the YTS lad wasn't with him
Really he haven’t even finished yet he’s still on the plot
You fighter ...you graft kid ...
You have to get spraying if you aren't already, thats one thing ive noticed across the trades here in aus, and uk is the uk is a long way behind us with methods etc. And we are still way behind the USA. Ive got plenty of family who hate the spray gun us younger painters barely touch a brush. A lot of that stuff your showing you just gap at the end and one coat with a brush and done. What you need is a decent amount of time on a spray gun and a guy who can learn to mask in front of you. Things like the stairwell you can stick an extension on spray the corners and even the wall section then roll up into it when doing the stair case. So you don't have to scaff stairwells etc. And the older guys that are anti-spray its just because you dont know how to use it. Theres a bit in using right tips etc FFLP is how you go. Also the sprayer you can use a power roller, which is a massive time saving also, as there is no roller tray. So you can just stick a long line on the airless and have no tray can get up onto roofs into awkward areas much quicker. When your going for lunch just take out the pressure stick a couple of plastic bags around it, then start again later. I also leave the spray in the paint sometimes for days and put a drop sheet around the tin, take the pressure out, then turn the tip on its side which seals the paint in the nossle or you can take the tip guard off and just leave it with the tip in water. It also eliminates picture framing on walls, which in high light areas is unavoidable with a brush and roller.
'You're not imagininininine it'
🤣🤣🤣
Several weeks ago I was quoted £3750 for 6 days work by a decorator, when I attempted to contact him to discuss how he had derived at this figure, he simply refused to answer his phone. I guess he feels he’s in such a position he does not need to explain his quote. Second quote I got was £1600 for the same job
Sounds like the guy who quoted big didn't want the job, hence not answering the phone.
I'm exactly the same if I dont like the person and I dont like the job I quote big, as for asking for an explanation I would of told you to fuck off and explain the wage you earn to me.
As a 20 year plasterer I wouldnt explain my quote either. If you dont want to pay it don't. My price is my business
@@stayspicy9456 as a 20 year nurse I won't hand over my hard earned blindly, if I'm getting my pants taken down
Ive done the same many times i can smell a fussy arsehole from a mile away
Off subject but, what’s ya thoughts on airless spraying and and can you do a vid on it please 🙏 ps . Love your channel
If ya looking at sprayers you'd be best with a hvlp sprayer, they have less over spray
nice train tracks on cills
The firm i'm on for have a fair few lads who spray now, and they all reckon it's 100% worth it, i mean this geezer is obviously a bit greedy, the blokes i know who spray plots reckon they shave around 2 days off each plot, which is fair enough and it is less work than brush and roller, maybe it's the future? But you do have some good points on the downsides of spraying em out
Trust me I spray plots and I would be insane to go back to a roller and brush
@@camdecorations9779 the pessimist in me reckons spraying is a bubble waiting to burst see, it's going to become the norm eventually, and when most painters are spraying i think either gafas or builders are gonna start cutting prices, I've seen it on a few firms with mist coats, 1 price to roll and a lower price to spray, based on, "well your doing it in less than half the time". If that logic ever crosses over to plots I think it could be a tricky transition. Hopefully that's just me seeing the glass half empty, and I do really like the idea of spraying so hopefully prices stay good and we all get rigs and earn a fat fortune! That would be nice
@@tobymoran2047 its possible its crossed my mind as well the more painters spray the greedier the bosses get it happened to the chippys when nail guns came in , but lit's down to us to say no I'm not spraying that unit for that price . I honestly think the price won't go down but I do think the price won't go up either , where a salty bunch all hell would break loose if they try to reduce the price.
How much the snagger get?
Too much messing about tapping up cleaning your spray gear etc.
Emulsion for undercoat nice.
On my firm there are people like the candle licker that does my snagging I earn the money that he cant that's y he makes videos because he on day work
2 hours masking and leave spray gun in bucket of water overnight, run through warm water from kettle at end....I find it easy and quick.
600 a 2 bed plot.2 days graft.coining it in.im bashing 3 and 4 bedders with ensuite s for same price.white ceilings .grey walls.white woodwork .5 days plus snagging.can this guy get me some work.lol.dont agree with spraying new plaster myself.first coat doesnt absorb aswell compared to rolling and brushing.sounds to me like his foreman hasn't got a clue about decorating and is just letting him get on with it.your right tho it's about the finishing touches but not the best finish there.no exuse for not caulking up properly at least for that king of money
@Geno Paints .routine never changes no matter how many bedrooms it is.thinned down white emulsion to all bare plaster.caulk up round door frames skirting s and prime bare woodwork.can usually do that in 8 hour day
Oh cup of tea and a smoke first lol
This is candle mans plot so let's see how good he really is shall we feel free to give us a comment
There is least a days snagging not a patch on your plots Candle Man.Where would he be without the YTS his earnings are not going to last .
Oldest decorators trick in book missed off the doors 🚪 they never been coated properly and neither staircase, horrendous workmanship
Basically he's done fuck all how can people leave it like that
Why doesn't he spray out the lot and get yts to back roll as he goes
If he eased off the screws a little on the sockets it would be quicker and easier to mask and have a better finish when he screwed it back
The sockets are usually filled with ammes by the making good guy to cover the poor cutting out by the plasterer so if you loosened the screws you would be fucking up his work
I always loosen screws on sockets.if plaster cracks or out I fill them before cutting round them.i ve had call backs where I used to just cut in round them and then customer or someone has to take socket off for something and then gaos have appeared round them.site manager had me back to make them good at my expense when should if been electrician back cause he d cut them wrong or even plasterer
bankers spend that in one night on coke and tarts and then get bailed out by the government with your taxes
11:31 by your own statement bud. That's the very reason I quit house bashing forever and it was the best decision I ever made 👌
This is the normal sort of shit work that, that type of painters do. The builders don't want to pay for good work, although in this case they seem to be paying well. Is the cost of the paint coming out of this? Paint costs a bloody fortune these days.
I'm a plumber and I make £3500 per week sometimes more! Depending if I work passed 4pm
Thanks for telling us where in the wrong trade
Sometimes I wished I were a painter no thinking required depending what colour is used but so relaxing and challenging not to get paint on the carpet.
Only kidding mate, lolololololol
That's why I do most my plumbing myself. Too many robbing tradesman.
@@mmack3286 no thinking required? And “so relaxing”? You’re clueless. You think we just stroll in jobs and pull out a brush and roller and that’s us done? Lol
Might give this a go..... as the old saying goes "if ya can piss ya can paint"
Lol yea right you have no idea 😂
@@dylanohara8637 😂😂😂
the sprayer did a shit job, end of. i would not have paid him a penny until it was all sealed up and painted over
Look rough as fuck if he's got to go back and snag he ain't making 2 k next week sound like hes got a good kid with him who's probably saving him 600 a week hope hes giving him a few quid
6 ton for a 2 bedder?
It really is grim up north
£600 a room down here easy
@@MILITANT1 thats taking the piss easy
dappa0000 £600 a house I wouldn’t get out of bed
Take more time masking up and taking it off hahaha
Who’s the fit bird at the end?
Who’s the girl in the end 🤪
The Significant half
How much does he spend on painters tape? or he is sponsored by the brand 🤣🤣🤣
He would spend per house £10 and that's masking paper and tape and that's enough to do a 4 bed house using a 3m 3000 hand masker
i made 3 thousand pound in 5 days with a sprayer , and the spraying was half a days work
Would love to see one of your plots easiest thing in the world is to snag someone else's work plot dont look bad couple of bits but what's a bit of caulk you just jealous cos u cant hit that money if u have to work weekends (like u say u do ) ur past it pal
2k a week is easy with a bit of graft, if the properties are getting passed, best of luck to him
3 a week R.A.F ❗️
Hope you’re not snagging😂 lol
Bloody awful
Why don't you do the same
If your makeing that much get yourself some new threads 😀
Maybe he done it in the dark like the plots you have and blames the amount of snagging on that like you do??
He had a generator he could have run lights
Are you kidding me what about fuel cost
By the way it's not down to him to supply lights it's down to the site , why should he waste his money because the site ain't organized enough to supply power
decorations ideal world which never happens with site work I'm afraid
decorations decent diesel generator is away around the fuel cost
If U can Piss U can Paint
Not done a good job though has he !
It's a council house,will look fucked within two weeks of tenants moving in anyway.
Poor yts kid thinking rhis is proper decorating
There must be another 4 days snagging he's got to come back and do ....its alright saying hes earned 2 bags in a week but next week he'll be earning sweet FA......absolute shite !!!😂
£2000 pound a week whats the matter with that i make that every week if u are willing 2 do full houses for a thousand pounds for house bashing more fool u house bashers no good money in it
Mate why don’t you stop sticking your nose into other blokes plots and slagging them off there is always one prick onsite who wants to know everyone’s business #brokenjaw
The polish painters do cheaper jods and better..
Click bait. £2k a week so he says
And has he finished yet ? Just some guy rambling with resentment. Show us the finished job
All you fools need to get a life I make £3000 a week
10chalkywhite £3000 a week dont talk shite you spastic
Chalky must be a prostitute 3 grand a week lol
@@paulcahoon9971 I'll do a bit of whoring on the side for a grand a week I ain't fussy lol
Your in the wrong game you pricks muppets work this any fool can do it !
Not physical work would u make 3 grand