Man what about that time Sixx almost took a game off Leffen in tournament, among other high ranked players? Most characters around that spot on the tier list don't get to brag that
I'm surprised there are no comment/chapter about the opponent jumping into a drill so that the opponent get hit airborn and lands with 4* frames of lag (was previously written 0 but it's 4), allowing them to shine or shield to beat drill, as it's an important aspect in the rock/papier/scissors to know for both Fox and the opponent (where jump in Fox beats drill but loses to nair).
@@alexanderbateman5581 I just tested and you're right, I don't know why I thought it was 0 frames, since it looked so consistent to beat the drill sometimes...
Have you ever thought about doing videos on what to fish for or your best tools in certain matchups? I'd love to hear some Hax perspectives on matchups or what you're looking for.
fox mains when they take 50% from a peach down smashing after misses a frame perfect short hop drill by 0.5 frames and the peach calls the fox brain dead easy after she flicks the c-stick down
"Despite the fact that both the frame 1 drill and a frame 3 drill are both 2 frames worse than a frame 2 drill, it's worse on paper." Imagine not knowing much about Melee and/or framedata and hearing that sentence 😂
None of the top melee players are doing this though. Hax goes really deep in the game there is still much more melee to be played and this is an innovation I don't think many are using.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I could never figure out why drill grab worked sometimes and not others, or what characters or hits drill followups are true on.
I noticed you said that Fox gets six frames of advantage on Peach, but on the Melee calculator it says that Fox's dair does 16 frames of hitstun to Peach, which would imply he gets seven frames of advantage. I tested it in 20XX and there were only 15 frames. Is the Melee calculator wrong, or is there some intricacy I'm not accounting for?
Frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill
i'm such a scrub man i lost my match because i missed my frame 2 drill input between frames and my opponent did a double frame-perfect grab into super wavedash dsmash, killing me instantly through my amsa tech
Hax’s community rehabilitation strategy is super weird. It seems like he’s trying to bury his Leffen videos by suggesting rule changes and a flood of content about obscure tech. Hax, buddy, the content is solid, but short of Leffen making some kind of public reconciliation announcement, time is going to be the only remedy for you shooting yourself in the leg. I don’t think you should have been banned, and I think your Leffen videos were far less outlandish than a lot of people tried to portray them. I’m just being real with you here.
I think if you may be looking at it differently than I see it. What I see is Hax doing his best to move past the Leffen stuff BECAUSE he wants to continue contributing to the community rather than "flooding" the community with content and rule changes in order to get everyone to forget about it. He was doing all this stuff before the Leffen controversy, and probably wants to get back to normal
I wonder if Hax knows he's pioneering text-based Melee
LMAO
"input drill between frame 2 and frame 3"
yeah okay lol
Hax$ - 🤡
Thats a 2f window thats reasonable
i can do frame perfect stuff, this is not as hard as it sounds. dashback without ucf is what should scare you
I was about to come here and comment pretty much the exact same comment
@Atomic Apple - Nah, you're good bro. Just soak it all up as you can and it'll all make sense the longer you stay in it. Welcome to Melee!
>Features still being developed
>Preorders ship in less than a month
I see no way this could possibly go wrong
None at all lmao
Let's hope it's just frame perfect shipping aligned to the last possible moment
Inb4 melee 1.3.1
@@Ben-sx6ew melee 1.4
Hey you're that Wii portable guy! Can you make a switch portable next? :)
@@UIthus hol' up-
Sorry babe, New Hax video just dropped.
Link's nair is wild
Wack ass hitbox
As far as Hax is concerned, Link isn't a character
@@tree2992 true
Man what about that time Sixx almost took a game off Leffen in tournament, among other high ranked players? Most characters around that spot on the tier list don't get to brag that
@@scythea428 lol
Between frames 2 and 3.
This feels like some SMB1 sub-pixel stuff.
Or half an a press
@@runaway74 LMFAO
are we still sure fox is the best in the game? seems way easier to press c stick down as peach
LMAO
True
I play Falco, can’t wait to apply this info
Every new Hax vid feels like some sort of nerdy privilege gifted upon the 20XX sect we're all a part of
I'm surprised there are no comment/chapter about the opponent jumping into a drill so that the opponent get hit airborn and lands with 4* frames of lag (was previously written 0 but it's 4), allowing them to shine or shield to beat drill, as it's an important aspect in the rock/papier/scissors to know for both Fox and the opponent (where jump in Fox beats drill but loses to nair).
Tell 'em flies
They land with empty landing lag (usually 4 frames). Not 0 frames of lag
holy SHIT you're alive!!??
I'm a huge fan !! :))
@@alexanderbateman5581 I just tested and you're right, I don't know why I thought it was 0 frames, since it looked so consistent to beat the drill sometimes...
Is it flies killer from melee Quebec?🤔
Hax$’s years-long winning streak continues
think he lost big time this summer
Master class presentation
This man has taken an analog game and turned it into a game of 5-D Chess
Have you ever thought about doing videos on what to fish for or your best tools in certain matchups? I'd love to hear some Hax perspectives on matchups or what you're looking for.
Okay, this is Epic.
Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!
Khan academy of melee
confidently drill frame 2 and frame perfect fast fall when you know there’s a goddamn peach mashing sdi inputs and downsmash. Feelsbadman
fox mains when they take 50% from a peach down smashing after misses a frame perfect short hop drill by 0.5 frames
and the peach calls the fox brain dead easy after she flicks the c-stick down
@@benjoby057 based
@@benjoby057 basado
ya theres no counterplay for that situation Kappa
"Despite the fact that both the frame 1 drill and a frame 3 drill are both 2 frames worse than a frame 2 drill, it's worse on paper."
Imagine not knowing much about Melee and/or framedata and hearing that sentence 😂
LMAO
Literally
Yeah let me just aim for a quarter frame in a 60 FPS game, nbd
its closely paired with another input (jump) so its not as guessy as you think
chase perfection and you will achieve excellence
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algorithm comment!! this is gold. thanks for giving me ammo for my fox secondary
Awesome, Hax. Keep being cool!
the dedication is outstanding.
I think I can officially give up my dreams of being a top melee player now.
None of the top melee players are doing this though. Hax goes really deep in the game there is still much more melee to be played and this is an innovation I don't think many are using.
Top players do these things unconsciously
@@EA_SP0RTCENTER a lot of top foxes knew about certain hits of dair yielding more Frame advantage since like 2009-2011 era
i just like to hit the guy but ur method is cool too
Griffin goat
future evo winner
Bro all these needs is some quiet chill music in the back. Like a groovy piano or something
The most complex player in SSBM
and plup
This is exactly what I was looking for. I could never figure out why drill grab worked sometimes and not others, or what characters or hits drill followups are true on.
Take a shot every time he says the word “frame”
How to die tutorial
@@lorenzo689 speedrun*
Drill grab could be beaten also by yoshi parry
wow i never knew that weight factored into frame advantage!
Yeah that’s why trying to combo samus is a nightmare, she is heavy as hell
yeah, in general, hitstun depends on knockback which depends on weight
soooooooo... is Hax still banned?
Does anyone know which font Hax uses for his videos? I'd love to use it for myself.
Looks like Courier
@@djs9997 Seems so. Thank you kind person of the internet.
you should add Doc to the list of upper-tier characters you keep showing examples of, as he shares a lot of attributes to both mario and luigi
Alright, I’ll hit up Uncle Punch and practice my odd number drill-connect timings
Dude video as always, man
1:10 Up smash is missing, it comes out from 7, same as grab.
Will they ever lift Hax’s lifetime Ban ?
Do a series on captain falcon
I love Super Smash Brothers Melee on the Nintendo GameCube
I wish time travel was possible just to show this to M2K in 2002.
Why don't patch phantom hits?
me when I need to account for drill hit number polarity when I just want a jab reset
bro is writing research papers on melee
I wonder on what frame I should drill if I want to drill from the ledge. (Assuming I jump on the first actionable frame from the drop.)
Hax$ living up to his name.
Isn’t upsmash as fast as grab? Theoretically couldn’t you drill + upsmash?
I noticed you said that Fox gets six frames of advantage on Peach, but on the Melee calculator it says that Fox's dair does 16 frames of hitstun to Peach, which would imply he gets seven frames of advantage. I tested it in 20XX and there were only 15 frames. Is the Melee calculator wrong, or is there some intricacy I'm not accounting for?
very interesting tech, i'll be sure to utilize this in my next games
-me, a roy main
Can we unban hax already? It was dumb af to even ban him in the first place
this is cool and all but where is the Luigi technology we're all really clamoring to see?
oh just need to drill between frame 2 and 3 but closer to 2? this game hella easy.
ok but where is mario??
I feel like it'd be better to explain this concept with dairs active frames. You want to land on an active frame
airBORNE
literally unwatchable for this lol
Didn't ask + I use CF + I'm going to sh knee again
play falcon again
drill
hax is the best
Just time your half an A press to optimally drill between parallel worlds 2 and 3
Does all of this apply to Jigglypuff's drill too?
PepoG
🚨New Scrumpy alert?🚨
Frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill is worse than a frame 1 drill is worse than a frame 3 drill is worse than a frame 2 drill
I don't even play melee (nick all stars player) but I love watching these for some reason
It's simple, melee is sick
If you can wavedash with 2 different characters you can drill in 2 different timings, bunch of babies.
I didn’t understand a single thing you jus said
wtf dude
i'm such a scrub man i lost my match because i missed my frame 2 drill input between frames and my opponent did a double frame-perfect grab into super wavedash dsmash, killing me instantly through my amsa tech
Yes a 10 minute video on down air gotta get the length for ad revenue
There isnt a midroll ad so it doesnt matter
midroll ads start at 8 minutes, not 10…
honestly im surprised its not longer
this is hax we are talking about, it's only right
Ayye
wrong
nerd
/s
just dont comment next time :)
Hax’s community rehabilitation strategy is super weird. It seems like he’s trying to bury his Leffen videos by suggesting rule changes and a flood of content about obscure tech. Hax, buddy, the content is solid, but short of Leffen making some kind of public reconciliation announcement, time is going to be the only remedy for you shooting yourself in the leg. I don’t think you should have been banned, and I think your Leffen videos were far less outlandish than a lot of people tried to portray them. I’m just being real with you here.
shhh
I think if you may be looking at it differently than I see it. What I see is Hax doing his best to move past the Leffen stuff BECAUSE he wants to continue contributing to the community rather than "flooding" the community with content and rule changes in order to get everyone to forget about it. He was doing all this stuff before the Leffen controversy, and probably wants to get back to normal
Look man, he apologized. He deleted the videos. He moved on. What more do you want?
@@SkeletonSSBM to not have an obsession/stalk a top player for 5+ years lmao
@@sunflowertheog LOL