Top Secret Out-of-Shield Options in SSBM

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @yugutugut
    @yugutugut 2 года назад +92

    Old melee: don't get hit
    New melee: just get hit

    • @Pslamist
      @Pslamist 2 года назад +7

      Maybe Isai actually knew this and told people misinformation that sounded cool to keep the secret to himself, giving him an advantage.🧠

    • @slayervenn6783
      @slayervenn6783 2 года назад +4

      @@Pslamist He knew all of these techs, he just wasn't trying

  • @Boyzby
    @Boyzby 2 года назад +24

    All I could hear in my head while watching this is Scar going "Melee is sick" repeatedly.

  • @eef_freef
    @eef_freef 2 года назад +148

    I wish I loved a game the same way that melee players love melee

    • @alfredusmagnus
      @alfredusmagnus 2 года назад +79

      Play melee and love meleee

    • @MegaStunfiskandHat
      @MegaStunfiskandHat 2 года назад +34

      Then become a melee player. It's really not as hard as people pretend it is as long as you're willing to put in a little effort and don't expect to instantly be good

    • @EEEEEE1337
      @EEEEEE1337 2 года назад +13

      c'mon Jon, 10 minutes a day of basics and you will be fine in no time :)

    • @josephberard1227
      @josephberard1227 2 года назад +17

      Join us Jon, Join us

    • @Rael0505
      @Rael0505 2 года назад +6

      I love melee more than anything in the world LOL it's true

  • @Donpatch0NT
    @Donpatch0NT 2 года назад +79

    Could you show the inputs for the Shield ASDI against shines that was shown early in the video in another video? Would be very helpful information

    • @BreakfastKids
      @BreakfastKids 2 года назад +3

      yes please! honestly for each asdi input it would be very helpful

    • @alibissbm4086
      @alibissbm4086 2 года назад +4

      It's just moving the grey stick in the direction you want to go in while you're in shield stun frames. Tap right, move right. Tap left, move left. Same as regular SDI/ASDI. I think the examples down were 1 SDI input and 1 ASDI on top. Specifically for ASDI, you're just holding the direction you're trying to move in, as ASDI is applied on the last frame of the shield stun.

    • @SuperWildYoshi
      @SuperWildYoshi 2 года назад

      @@alibissbm4086 so ASDI is holding the C stick down with anolog grey stick as well?

    • @shadoninja
      @shadoninja 2 года назад +3

      That is the part he isn't explaining. If you are trying to SDI a shine like that, you will need to be insanely precise. Often times, you will probably roll instead.

  • @rannynihilius8481
    @rannynihilius8481 2 года назад +5

    Ayo hax thanks for spreading awareness about Leffen and Jisu again we finally got them.
    You putting your reputation and smash career on the line wasn't for nothing #WelcomeBackZeRo

    • @KIJHK
      @KIJHK 2 года назад +2

      #HaxWasRight

  • @rkraccoons
    @rkraccoons 2 года назад +44

    If you're on boxx, you can mash the direction you want to shield sdi while holding the modifier so you don't roll
    EDIT: wait, but yoshi can't jump out of his shield, so he cant do the air to ground transition on the waveshine

    • @gerudokupo2225
      @gerudokupo2225 2 года назад +1

      It doesnt hurt to option select as you make a parry attempt, in particular with a fast DJ to armor many things slower than shine

    • @bluefalcon7
      @bluefalcon7 2 года назад

      You don't need to be in a shield situation to take advantage of this it can help in a reversal for example if fox cc shines a yoshi nair that forces an air to ground transition. Making the nair safe despite the fact fox cc'd it basically requiring fox to carefully time his counter attack so that yoshi land's fully before Pressing shine which is easier said than done in the scramble.

  • @defibillytor6639
    @defibillytor6639 2 года назад +18

    nice, a video that actually helps with spacies' counterplay!

    • @SufferDYT
      @SufferDYT 2 года назад +5

      It actually helps fox/falco in that all these scrubs are going to be mistiming the asdi and rolling into my shine

    • @sharkquisha3407
      @sharkquisha3407 2 года назад +2

      @@SufferDYT not really. This isnt a well known tech and those few who know about it will probably practice and be able to do it properly.

  • @quinoa8074
    @quinoa8074 2 года назад +30

    I was excited when I saw yoshi at 2:00 until I remembered he can't jump out of shield :(

  • @theInstituter
    @theInstituter 2 года назад +37

    #unbanhax literally still contributes to the community whilst being banned because he speaks the truth.... we don't deserve this, yet he's still pumping out some great content, dare I say more than the average notable melee players. this man loves the game and the community that banned him

    • @E-Brightvoid
      @E-Brightvoid 2 года назад

      Pretty sure he will be calm down

    • @E-Brightvoid
      @E-Brightvoid 2 года назад

      Also is he even banned rn?

    • @theInstituter
      @theInstituter 2 года назад +3

      @@E-Brightvoid yes he's still currently banned from the community, melee online discord, and from attending tourneys, no news as of yet even after his appeal i think

    • @nicememe8608
      @nicememe8608 2 года назад +1

      @@E-Brightvoid being complacent with a menace in your community is not something to be applauded.
      “being calm” is bullshit

    • @sharkquisha3407
      @sharkquisha3407 2 года назад +8

      @@nicememe8608 despite some of the outlandish references he made in the video he still had a lot of valid points and testimonies from other people. Him getting banned because Leffen felt "unsafe" only lends credence to his point.

  • @TrucidOL8R
    @TrucidOL8R 2 года назад +7

    Amazing video.. honestly I never considered any of these options before

  • @clipCommander101
    @clipCommander101 2 года назад +1

    I just started really labbing my out of shield options last night so this is perfect timing

  • @colinmurphy2214
    @colinmurphy2214 2 года назад +5

    Cc and asdi being used as oos options are the most comical examples of them being broken imo

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt 2 года назад +3

    Gotta think of ways to practice this, thanks Hax

  • @nihil626
    @nihil626 2 года назад +19

    2:00 Wait, did Hax just call Falcon viable?

    • @ballertheking1038
      @ballertheking1038 2 года назад

      Did you not watch his last tier list?

    • @Velyren
      @Velyren 2 года назад +1

      Are we just answering questions with questions? (Oh no it cant be stopped now)

    • @christostsipouras7287
      @christostsipouras7287 2 года назад +1

      @@Velyren Did you really intend it to be stopped?

    • @greg4587
      @greg4587 2 года назад +1

      @@christostsipouras7287 Do you really think they did?

    • @Metroyeti17
      @Metroyeti17 2 года назад +2

      Combo breaker

  • @yelv
    @yelv 2 года назад +11

    WAKE UP BABE, NEW HAX MONEY VIDEO

  • @marquistf1996
    @marquistf1996 5 месяцев назад

    I think this is something jmook uses at a high level to reverse pressure

  • @wordsoflove8787
    @wordsoflove8787 2 года назад +2

    You were right all along man

  • @AlexRoseGames
    @AlexRoseGames 2 года назад +1

    I am stealing asdi down option select while rolling from now on, it's a complete no brainer

  • @jacobshawn5309
    @jacobshawn5309 2 года назад

    This is amazing. Thank you Hax

  • @Lampaluile
    @Lampaluile 2 года назад +2

    wooooow the roll option select

  • @ch3rry833
    @ch3rry833 2 года назад

    This game is just amazing and has always some optimizations to do, I love it

  • @gerudokupo2225
    @gerudokupo2225 2 года назад +3

    expect... yoshi cant jump out of shield...
    naw but it is good out of parrying a fox nair lol

  • @lolislayer4944
    @lolislayer4944 2 года назад +3

    This is so advanced lol

  • @dahuterschuter
    @dahuterschuter 2 года назад +4

    Yoshi can't jump out of shield tho

  • @donjuan8664
    @donjuan8664 2 года назад +2

    I offended that luigi isn't counted as viable...

  • @carterghill
    @carterghill 2 года назад +2

    Hax, I have emailed your support team 3 times with no response. My 1.03 ordered was cancelled without notification or reason and I was not refunded. What is going on with your 1.03 memory cards?

  • @E-Brightvoid
    @E-Brightvoid 2 года назад +4

    Now THIS is podracing

  • @Swill_
    @Swill_ 2 года назад +2

    i welcome the roll meta

  • @yurilowell9365
    @yurilowell9365 2 года назад +1

    Hax you covered Rolls, SG, and Jump, but what about spot dodge with sdi/asdi?

  • @kibbs1869
    @kibbs1869 2 года назад +1

    We did it hax, we won

  • @GoMaDssb
    @GoMaDssb 2 года назад

    "out of the boxx" I see what you did there

  • @WaldoFindsYo
    @WaldoFindsYo 2 года назад

    is there a reason u put yoshi in the category that can jump out of shield to combat fox pressure when yoshi cant jump out of shield at all?

  • @fragile1964
    @fragile1964 2 года назад +2

    So that means if im getting naired shine pressured as icys i can jump before shined and get a grab??

    • @patrickmcdunn6498
      @patrickmcdunn6498 2 года назад

      Icies are a little trickier because the shine will send you further due to their low traction. I would lab it out. It's possible that you'd move far enough away that by the time you run or wd back in, they can spot dodge

  • @SufferDYT
    @SufferDYT 2 года назад +2

    Even if you are a character that tumbles from shine you can buffer a tech as you jump also, so it might be decent as them too.

    • @lohn2559
      @lohn2559 2 года назад

      Even if you were to hit the tech, it would be a MUCH worse option than just shielding the shine. Teching takes a long time. By the time you are done teching, you have 0 chance to punish fox, and you yourself are probably going to get punished.

    • @SufferDYT
      @SufferDYT 2 года назад

      @@lohn2559 Not if the fox went for shinegrab, then you would be out before they can punish the tech.
      Like with every thing in fighting games, it depends.

  • @thedarkyoshi1337
    @thedarkyoshi1337 2 года назад

    except Yoshi can't jump out of shield

  • @TheManaLord
    @TheManaLord 2 года назад +1

    hell yea

  • @wermaus
    @wermaus 2 года назад

    ah yes it takes effect by frame 6 for all characters including for me a bowser main interesting in consuming melee resources for whom which it definitely doesn't take 9 frames total.

  • @Ganobrator
    @Ganobrator 2 года назад

    Why did you include Yoshi in the anti-fox jump out of shield portion? He can't do it.

  • @hossdelgato6098
    @hossdelgato6098 2 года назад

    Master class

  • @ClockworkNinja24
    @ClockworkNinja24 2 года назад

    dark aziz show me the forbidden OOS options

  • @TaIathar
    @TaIathar 2 года назад

    Ok, but what about all the other characters?

  • @bigdrefromthebay6475
    @bigdrefromthebay6475 2 года назад +1

    How long is Hax banned for?

    • @EE-ky5nt
      @EE-ky5nt 2 года назад +3

      Free HaxMoney

  • @sampletext7925
    @sampletext7925 2 года назад

    Nice

  • @isaiahsanderman1742
    @isaiahsanderman1742 2 года назад

    does the second topic, jumping into fox shine, work for mewtwo as well? As in, are there less frames of stun if you jump into the shine?

    • @lohn2559
      @lohn2559 2 года назад

      Mewtwo probably tumbles from shine unfortunately, he’s quite light.

    • @lohn2559
      @lohn2559 2 года назад

      (Not 100% sure though)

  • @lambchu6459
    @lambchu6459 2 года назад

    b0xx gang

  • @TheZogeking
    @TheZogeking 2 года назад

    Content

  • @Gamesforus1
    @Gamesforus1 2 года назад

    This is some fucked shit ngl. Time to play.

  • @cheesewizz_
    @cheesewizz_ 2 года назад

    ok, I’ll make sure not to tell

  • @zeke547
    @zeke547 2 года назад

    w

  • @fackinsaxy
    @fackinsaxy 2 года назад

    I FUCKING LOVE HAX$

  • @matthewwhoseph6437
    @matthewwhoseph6437 2 года назад

    who the fuck is popo? lol

  • @jayylmaossbm
    @jayylmaossbm 2 года назад +2

    first?

  • @NEVERDOORS
    @NEVERDOORS 2 года назад

    wrong again sadly

    • @thelacedog1915
      @thelacedog1915 2 года назад +1

      Sadly you have taken yet another L