No unfortunately you can see the cracks, almost looks embossed in the wrap. Any imperfections in the gel coat would need to be repaired prior to wrapping. With that being said, I have had people fill the cracks with fiberglass repair stuff, sand it smooth, then wrap it instead of trying to paint/re-gel it. Hope this helps!
Yes sir, so both the 180 and 2080 films are cast vinyl. Both are very durable and will last years if taken care of properly. 2080 is also much easier to install than 180MC due to the type of adhesive. "Cast" refers to the type of vinyl or more so how its manufactured. Cast vinyl starts its life as a liquid and is poured or "Cast" into a sheet. Where as the alternative "Calendared" film starts out as a big ball of vinyl and is flattened into a sheet. So Calendared film, when heated wants to shrink a lot more than Cast films. Only Cast films should be used on any type of wrap or long term vehicle graphics. I'm sure there are more technical explanations lol. But that is how it was explained to me. Hope this helps. Thank you!
Hey bud... Love this video... I'm about to do my first boat.. done many cars and such and I order from Fellers... so the 3M 180MC in black would work for me? the widest point I am doing is 26" and the boat is 17' long... any suggestions?
Hey man, I'm sorry for the late reply on this. I completely missed it somehow. I'm sure you probably already did the wrap, but to answer your question.. I would for sure recommend using 3M 2080 or Avery SW900 vs the 180MC. When I shot this video it was the first wrap I did with the 180MC and it was more definitely difficult than using supreme wrap film. It ended up laying down fine and everything, but in the Florida heat it was a way higher tack than the actual wrap films. Hope this helps!
Do you every wrap a top beam of the boat? I have a older boat that was not taken care of. The gel coat looks like trash and is be on being buffed and wax or wet sanded
Hey Andy, yes sir I actually just did one last week. Unfortunately if the gel coat is in bad shape it has to be sanded and buffed before wrapping. I actually had issues with the one I just did. It wasn't really bad, but in a few spots the gel coat was powdering. I thought that by cleaning it really good I had taken care of it. But when I went to wrap it and had to pick up the wrap to reposition it, it pulled some of the top layer onto the adhesive. And once it's on there it won't stick back down. Hopefully this helps. Thanks for the comment!
This one was just on how to get it started the correct way. I made another video on the entire process because a few people requested it but I never had time to edit the video. I'm slow at it so it's difficult to make time, one day I will though lol. Thanks for the comment.
On this boat the gel coat wasn't bad. So you can just clean it really good with regular rubbing alcohol or Rapid Prep. If the gel coat is oxidized, I always tell the customer they have to buff it with a light buffing compound. Just make sure to tell the to NOT use wax lol. Then I clean it when they have all that completed, before installation.
How much does something like this run on say a key west BayReef 210? Do you have to remove hardware and The key west emblems? Also you don’t have to scuff up the factory gel coat do you? The reason I as all this is I am looking at ordering a brand new bay reef in the coming months as soon as I get a build slot and would like to bring it to you guys to wrap.
Awesome, we would love to wrap it for you! So, we definitely don't scuff the gel coat. A wrap will actually protect your gel coat from the sun fading it. We do have to remove the emblems but if you prefer to have them back on we can take measurements and put them back exactly where they were from the manufacturer. I will look up the BayReef 210 tomorrow and try to give you a rough idea of the cost. Thank you for reaching out! Looking forward to doing business with you!
@@ReelinTension Hey buddy, I just had a chance to look up the BayReef 210. Its hard to say without measurements of the boat. but a rough idea would be somewhere between $2k -$4k depending on the side height and how complex you get with a design. A solid color wrap like the one in my video is less that a printed wrap, but I see you have a fishing team so I'm guessing we would be doing a design to advertise for your business? Let me know if you have more questions and for sure reach out when you get the boat and we will get some good measurements and get you an exact price. Thanks!
I honestly don't remember, do you have a boat you would like to get wrapped? If so message me directly with the make and model of the boat. Also let me know what color your wanting to go to. And I can get you a quote worked up. Thanks!
Hey Sam, Thanks for reaching out! Its really hard to say without seeing some pics of the boat and having an idea of what the wrap will look like. Can you shoot me a message through my website please blackcreekcustoms.com/pages/get-a-quote send me some pics and a better idea of how you would like it to look and I can for sure get you a price worked up. Thanks!
Any hard curves that you wrap with an indentation of more than an inch and using a heat gun, what vinyl will flatten up and bubble sooner than later, over the years I've learned that a little more stretching and shaping the vinyl manually to the surface has a better chance of staying in place a little longer
What part of the finishing process is it your needing to see? I have a boat wrap scheduled here in a few weeks. I can record the finishing procedure when I do that one if that would help you out. Thanks!
@@Blackcreekcustoms yeah definitely I'm starting my own liquid wrap business here in the next few months finishing up the building now. Thought about doing vinyl wrap as well. But just the finishing. final cuts and what not
@@compoundlml7156 Ok, that's cool man. I've been wanting to do some more videos on how I do my cuts and stuff on boats and vehicles. It's just hard for me to take the time to edit the videos and stuff when I'm as busy as I have been lately. If you haven't already, subscribe to my channel and I'll try my best to get some more videos up soon with some of the content your looking for. Thanks!
Does the wrap smoothly cover gel coat with spider impact cracks? In other words, is this a good alternative to gel coat repair?
No unfortunately you can see the cracks, almost looks embossed in the wrap. Any imperfections in the gel coat would need to be repaired prior to wrapping. With that being said, I have had people fill the cracks with fiberglass repair stuff, sand it smooth, then wrap it instead of trying to paint/re-gel it. Hope this helps!
Looks Great ! I'm researching this application for my boat. My question has to do with durability of the 180 vs 2080 and what does cast film mean?
Yes sir, so both the 180 and 2080 films are cast vinyl. Both are very durable and will last years if taken care of properly. 2080 is also much easier to install than 180MC due to the type of adhesive. "Cast" refers to the type of vinyl or more so how its manufactured. Cast vinyl starts its life as a liquid and is poured or "Cast" into a sheet. Where as the alternative "Calendared" film starts out as a big ball of vinyl and is flattened into a sheet. So Calendared film, when heated wants to shrink a lot more than Cast films. Only Cast films should be used on any type of wrap or long term vehicle graphics. I'm sure there are more technical explanations lol. But that is how it was explained to me. Hope this helps. Thank you!
Hey bud... Love this video... I'm about to do my first boat.. done many cars and such and I order from Fellers... so the 3M 180MC in black would work for me? the widest point I am doing is 26" and the boat is 17' long... any suggestions?
Hey man, I'm sorry for the late reply on this. I completely missed it somehow. I'm sure you probably already did the wrap, but to answer your question.. I would for sure recommend using 3M 2080 or Avery SW900 vs the 180MC. When I shot this video it was the first wrap I did with the 180MC and it was more definitely difficult than using supreme wrap film. It ended up laying down fine and everything, but in the Florida heat it was a way higher tack than the actual wrap films. Hope this helps!
Do you every wrap a top beam of the boat? I have a older boat that was not taken care of. The gel coat looks like trash and is be on being buffed and wax or wet sanded
Hey Andy, yes sir I actually just did one last week. Unfortunately if the gel coat is in bad shape it has to be sanded and buffed before wrapping. I actually had issues with the one I just did. It wasn't really bad, but in a few spots the gel coat was powdering. I thought that by cleaning it really good I had taken care of it. But when I went to wrap it and had to pick up the wrap to reposition it, it pulled some of the top layer onto the adhesive. And once it's on there it won't stick back down. Hopefully this helps. Thanks for the comment!
Why didn’t you show how to finish it? It didn’t show pushing it down up to the rub rail
This one was just on how to get it started the correct way. I made another video on the entire process because a few people requested it but I never had time to edit the video. I'm slow at it so it's difficult to make time, one day I will though lol. Thanks for the comment.
what do you do to "prep" the gelcoat for the vinyl?
On this boat the gel coat wasn't bad. So you can just clean it really good with regular rubbing alcohol or Rapid Prep. If the gel coat is oxidized, I always tell the customer they have to buff it with a light buffing compound. Just make sure to tell the to NOT use wax lol. Then I clean it when they have all that completed, before installation.
You make it look easy
Hahaha I appreciate that! It is easy though, once you figure out your technique. Thanks for the comment.
How much does something like this run on say a key west BayReef 210? Do you have to remove hardware and The key west emblems? Also you don’t have to scuff up the factory gel coat do you? The reason I as all this is I am looking at ordering a brand new bay reef in the coming months as soon as I get a build slot and would like to bring it to you guys to wrap.
Awesome, we would love to wrap it for you! So, we definitely don't scuff the gel coat. A wrap will actually protect your gel coat from the sun fading it. We do have to remove the emblems but if you prefer to have them back on we can take measurements and put them back exactly where they were from the manufacturer. I will look up the BayReef 210 tomorrow and try to give you a rough idea of the cost. Thank you for reaching out! Looking forward to doing business with you!
@@Blackcreekcustoms Thank you. Looking forward to hearing from you
@@ReelinTension Hey buddy, I just had a chance to look up the BayReef 210. Its hard to say without measurements of the boat. but a rough idea would be somewhere between $2k -$4k depending on the side height and how complex you get with a design. A solid color wrap like the one in my video is less that a printed wrap, but I see you have a fishing team so I'm guessing we would be doing a design to advertise for your business? Let me know if you have more questions and for sure reach out when you get the boat and we will get some good measurements and get you an exact price.
Thanks!
@@Blackcreekcustoms awesome. I will get with you when I purchase the boat
@@ReelinTension Sounds great! Thanks man!
Hi. How much you charge for that job?
I honestly don't remember, do you have a boat you would like to get wrapped? If so message me directly with the make and model of the boat. Also let me know what color your wanting to go to. And I can get you a quote worked up.
Thanks!
I have a Alumacraft 85 Trophy roughly what will be the price of wrapping a little over half of the boat ?
Hey Sam, Thanks for reaching out! Its really hard to say without seeing some pics of the boat and having an idea of what the wrap will look like. Can you shoot me a message through my website please blackcreekcustoms.com/pages/get-a-quote send me some pics and a better idea of how you would like it to look and I can for sure get you a price worked up. Thanks!
A heat gun would help much better when you wrap vehicles especially curved shapes.
Thank you for your response.
Any hard curves that you wrap with an indentation of more than an inch and using a heat gun, what vinyl will flatten up and bubble sooner than later, over the years I've learned that a little more stretching and shaping the vinyl manually to the surface has a better chance of staying in place a little longer
@@juancastro5436 agreed. I use a heat gun only when necessary, and when post heating. Thank you for your comments!
Thanks
Absolutely, thanks for the comment!
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
Watched the whole thing to see how it was finished......nope
What part of the finishing process is it your needing to see? I have a boat wrap scheduled here in a few weeks. I can record the finishing procedure when I do that one if that would help you out. Thanks!
@@Blackcreekcustoms yeah definitely I'm starting my own liquid wrap business here in the next few months finishing up the building now. Thought about doing vinyl wrap as well. But just the finishing. final cuts and what not
@@compoundlml7156 Ok, that's cool man. I've been wanting to do some more videos on how I do my cuts and stuff on boats and vehicles. It's just hard for me to take the time to edit the videos and stuff when I'm as busy as I have been lately. If you haven't already, subscribe to my channel and I'll try my best to get some more videos up soon with some of the content your looking for. Thanks!
@@Blackcreekcustoms will do thanks