Brook Universal Fighting Board - First Look & Basic Installation Guide
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- First Look at the New Brook Universal Fighting Board
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Features:
- Auto-Detects PS3, PS4, XBOX360, XBOXONE, & PC (XINPUT)
- No 8-Minute Time-Out on PS4
- Screw Terminals for easy wiring and installation
- Firmware Updatable via USB
- Stick can be mapped to DP, LS, RS
- SOCD Cleaner
- TP Key, L3, R3 Buttons Available
- Turbo Support
- LED functions
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I really like the concept of having a truly universal stick. 79.99 isn't a bad price either. You've sold me. Thanks bro.
Finally, been trying to find this for a while. So much easier than hacking up a controller and soldering directly to it.
Definitely will be using this for my custom builds.
Amen to that..
Very informative video. I'm so glad this shows up as a XB1 controller on PC.
Congrats Jon Bonilla, this is probably the most informative video for the Brook Universal Board i've seen, very well done man seriously! Thumbs up!
Awesome stuff dude. Very informative and well made. I don't plan on getting a brand new PS4 fightstick for Tekken 7. This PCB will work well with one of my spare PS3 sticks. Thanks!
I love how he can jump from fighting game to fighting game.... My Brain can only handle 1 game series at a time and I accepted that, and focused that on Marvel Vs. 😂
Awesome!!! Thanks for putting in the time to make this .
Can you mod my arcade stick for me that looks sooo professionally done.
Thank you for making this video! I was looking for a replacement for my mc cthulhu board in time for SFV.
very helpful! I have been looking up and down for xbox one comparability pcb!!!
thank you!
yay found the video i was after :) thank you
Pre-ordered! Arcade Paradise had no tax charge so I chose to order from there.
Your going to heaven for making this video top man
Another great video man, I have been looking for a solution to connect my PS4 to my Arcade Cabinet, I'm sure I would need 2 though for a 2 player cab yeah, keep up the great work maybe I could invent a Jamma to PS4 adaptor using this board cheers man
Nice video. Are you going to put this in your vewlix?
Great video overview.
How do insert all the button wires to ground if you dont have the chain wires??
There are several grounds on the screw terminals but i suggest you just buy the 20 pin wire kit to make life easier. arcadeshock.com/products/quick-connect-20-pin-harness-for-fight-sticks?_pos=3&_sid=124443a20&_ss=r or focusattack.com/20-pin-joystick-button-harness/
very cool! cant wait to get one!
Thanks for replying. But if hold the 3P, in the pc connection, the joystick configuration on windows will appear xbox360 setting? Thank you.
Yes
Awesome vid!! Where can I get that art for my Panzer?
Has anyone ever had the Xbox One mode (default mode on PC) randomly stop working? I was playing on my PC yesterday when all of a sudden the game stuttered, and my stick stopped working. I updated the firmware and reinstalled the device, but no luck. What's weird is that the stick still works on my PC if I force 360 mode by holding Fierce when I plug it in. My regular Xbox One controllers still work fine on my PC. This leads me to believe the Xbox One function of the PCB malfunctioned and left everything else intact, but I don't understand how that's possible.
Hey great vid man can u do a tutorial on how install on a madcatz te-s stick?
or where can i get more detailed instructions on specific fightsticks?
The TE PCB is clearly labeled - just cut and splice the wires from the harnesses.
As always, we from the Federative Republic of Brazil will be at ease, at least we who do not have a high financial resource ...
Muito bom.. Esse video bem explicado .. Pena que nao tem essa placa no brasil.. Parabéns obrigado por compartilhar
Nice arcade cabinet
This is a great video. I love your stick. I'm curious for more details on it. Did you build it? Is it a custom from somewhere else? Deets, please, kind sir!
Bloodspoor jasenscustoms wide body panzer. However its out of print.
Thanks for the reply. I'm sad that it's out of print. Will continue to use my HRAPV Silent until something better pops up in my life.
check out ALLFIGHTSTICKS 18" case - very similar
I'm checking them out now. Do you prefer Allfightsticks to Jasencustoms or the other way around? Which one do you tend to use more?
just a matter of preference.
I have the quick connectors from Focus attack. I noticed all of yours are stripped, but they do not come stripped. Do I have to strip them myself?
Which arcade cabinet is that??? I like the set up
It was homemade.
Jony, can I simply attach J6 Port (from Brook UFB) to the wall-casing directly without involving any neutrik NAUSB and additional cable??
Yes any usb connection will work
thanks for the video looking forward to installed it on my fight-stick, Question. What are those little gaming tables on the background saw one like a old arcade style double sticks set up, did you made them or bought them? shit is more than one question hahhah.
angel sorry for the late reply. the cab I built myself, the white one in the back is a Ikea hacked table. =)
awesome video dude what stick did you have in the video?
Panzer wide body from jasenscustoms.com
+Jon Bonilla (jonyfraze) thanks for the reply! also subbed from this video.
hello good .. I have the universal brook, they know how I can have up, down, right and left in the jostick, for the jostick and the crosshead with buttons, like the configuration of the hitbox cross, that I am riding my custom arcade stick. please answer
Use the 20pin connector for the joystick and screw terminals for extra inputs
@@jonyfraze thank
Awesome video !!! thanks for sharing ...
I'm thinking on getting my hands on one of those beautiful Brook Universal Boards, do you know if you got the "timeout error" after some minutes in PS4?
Don Punch Punk just keep it up to date via the brook website and you'll be all set.
Thank you
How exactly would you install this on an empty madcatz TE1? Not necessarily the wiring or anything, but in terms of the placement of the PCB. Thanks in advance!
Message me on Twitter or Instagram @jonyfraze I'll show you.
how to use J9 connector? Is J9 the same as J3, I mean you can use one or another whatever
Great video mate gave you a sub! Would you do a room tour a some point ? Would love to get some ideas for a set up of my own. Thanks
Hi laggy Follow me on IG - @jonyfraze I'll tag you on my latest man cave tour
If you dont use a daisy chain for the ground, then do you just stick all the wires in that one screw hole?
+tofulo theoretically that will work but im notsure if you can jam all those cables in at the same time unless you use a higher gauge (thinner) wire..
Also, second question. Is it possible to use a combination of buttons as the home button for this PCB? For example, pressing the start and select button for home? Thanks in advance!
No no macros yet.. When you ores share on ps4 the menu comes up..
I have a Qanba Q4. In order to use this, I have gut the PCB's out of there and use JUST THIS PCB? I'm assuming the answer is yes but just wanted to be sure. If so, what "mode" do I have to put my Qanba in for it to auto-recognize the system it's being plugged in to? The Qanba has a slider switch for 360/PS3 mode.
Yes. The mode switch won't work anymore since you swapped PCBs. You can remap the switch however it's not needed. There will be a software command to switch between dp, ls, and rs in the next firmware update.
+Jon Bonilla (jonyfraze) thanks for the info! never had much luck with soldering or dual mods, but I might give this a try
Will this work for pa5? I assume so, but you can never be too sure lol.
have to wait from the official word from brook but it looks promising
My joystick doesn't have the 5 pin connection, it's standard quick connects just like the buttons. Will this board be useful?
beazydallas yeah just wire up direction inputs to the board and then just bridge all the grounds together on the stick and plug that into the ground.
Veo que hay un poco de lag en xbox one, será lo mismo en ps4 y ps5??
I have Brook Universal Fighting Board connected to A Hitbox. There is a problem of after 10 minutes, nothing works. What's going on with this?
Awesome install! Do you notice the reduce input lag/ more responsive. Waiting on mine to arrive Saturday.
David Yu yep it's a lot more responsive than stock pcbs especially in PS4 mode. How did the install go ?
+Jon Bonilla (jonyfraze) Yes! It's buttery smooth. Definitely an upgrade!! The install went great. So tempting to put one in every stick now.
I just got my fightboard in the mail and your installation video helped out a great deal. Thank you my friend. Quick question: When I hook it up to my PC, it's registered as an Xbox One controller, but from what I heard is that this causes some input lag on the controller. Did they eventually patch that out, because its kinda annoying to constantly manually set it to Xbox 360 mode.
when you plug it in just hold down 3P (fierce) to force it into 360 mode. Everytime i plug into PC i prefer the 360 mode as well.
Ok then I'll just keep using Xbox 360 mode then. Thanks for the input bro.
NinjaRed5000 yeah it defaults to xboxone one on windows 10. It's due to the plug and play logic on the firmware. Keep in mind if you leave your stick plugged in it will remain in that mode.
It just boggles my mind that it causes input lag in Xbox One mode.
NinjaRed5000 that's not necessarily true. It really all depends on your motherboard / USB chipset. For instance on my diy desktop there's no lag difference between the 2 modes. However on my Asus ROG laptop there is lag. I just used to playing it safe and do the forced 360 mode. Test it out on your setup.
Can't find the dimensions of this board anywhere, any chance you could measure. Trying to figure out if it would fit in a Madcatz Brawlstick case. Thanks in advance.
It will definitely fit. Just installed one into a Madcatz SE case which later became the brawl stick. I used one of the posts where the original PCB went to screw it down and some hot glue to anchor it down.
I heard that forcing the PCB into 360 mode works best for PC functionality. I get that you press 3P for 360 mode, but I was wondering if you have to do this every time I want to use my fight stick, or just for when I plug it in? Thanks
It stays in 360 mode until unplugged. So if you leave your computer and stick plugged in your good.
Jon Bonilla Ah, perfect. Thanks for the quick reply.
hello jon i write you from france, i have mounted 2 boards on my ps4 to play 2 players, but only players 1 works, players 2 is innactive, do you have an idea?all is mapped correctly, i have don t just soledered the players LED on the board
regards from france
alex
Does this auto-detect PS4 through a cronusmax? I need to put in deadzones and sensitivity settings for analog control. Also, can L2/R2 be put in as digital or analog?
Does anyone know if you hold the Share and Option buttons together you'll get the PS MENU button. Just like the PS360+ PCB.
Won't work due to the sel/share button bringing up the share feature on ps4
Quick question if i were to instead use a wasd key switch instead of a joystick would it still be the same?
Yeah that should work. Just wire all the directions and ground.
I just ordered this product via paradise arcade shop. I'm totally GREEN to this stuff, but I'm gonna try to install buy using this vid as a tutorial. Do I have to install XINPUT on my PC?
No Xinput means Xbox - no need to install
Im planing in building my own joystick, and if works a MAme cabinet too, no experience whatsoever, outside of videos like yours, which will work fine,,, I hope. Anyways I want to go for a Crown CWL, with some silent Hayabusa buttons in a Tek-Case S1-B, went everywhere looking for a PCB for ps4/pc withoutimeout till I found this,,, hHHHallelujah!
Might sound like duhhh, but Will it work with the configuration I want right??
And is there a way to make the stick wireless!
Hopefully I'm not going overboard with this!
is it possible to reuse the wires already used in the stick or is a new set of wiring required as well?
Sure why not
Thanks for the video ! Can you tell me if this would fit a Madcatz TE 1? The Usb Cable can't be removed on that one.
Yes it can. I have been soldering the old USB cable when installing into a TE
i tried installing this with an Mc cthulhu with the nuetrik and impv2 and so far everything works except the xbox one, any suggestion on how to fix that
I'm using this board for a hitbox mod. So I'm wondering if it's possible to screw the quick disconnects of the directional buttons into the board like the regular buttons. Would this work?
toffeemug yes
the supergun website is no more. Id like to mod my PS1 hori fight stick model HPS-07 to a more up to snuff fight stick. I hope this wont be hard to achieve.
Yeah this was 4 years ago.
This looks awesome! What is the difference between this and PS360+?
Ps360+ requires a lot more work to get it to work on Xbox one and ps4 support only works for 8 minutes before having to unplug and plug the arcade stock back in this works for everything usb related out of the box
+Tjracerz Thanks man!
awesome vid! Do you think I could put this inside of a Hori RAP4 Kai?
Shouldn't be a problem..
i have a question about the usb you use to hook it up to any of the consoles. dows the same usb work for multiple consiles? or do i need a special one for each pc, ps4 and xbox 360?
all the consoles i used in this video take the standard USB A connector. i used the same cable.
Could you feel the latency improvements?
UFB is the faster and most consistent board that I’ve personally tested. I’ve tried the other “faster” boards but in my real world tests, the UFB has always been better. Check out my recent video showcasing the GamesCare PCB and you’ll see what I mean.
@@jonyfraze I picked one up, and I picked up the upgrade for the PS five. Even with the extra chipset installed, it’s still extremely more fast than my Brook board that came with my Omni
what is the j9 part of the board for and how does it work with the rest of the pcb
I have a ps360 in my current stick. how easy is it to transfer all these cables to this brook board because I just got mine.
Super easy. Just follow the labels
hi in the video you show that connected on pc it appears as xbox one. Has the pc potion recognize as xbox 360? Thank you.
Hold down 3P to force into 360 mode while connecting . Either way both are xinput.
I have a stick that also includes several additional elements, such as a LS/DP switch, a turbo button and even a macro button (which I intend to turn into L3/R3 buttons anyway). What do I need to solder those to the board?
Just need to find the contact points and groundf or those button inputs and solder to the board..
+Jon Bonilla (jonyfraze) That's the point - do I need special tools to solder the cables without accidentally contacting two or more holes?
+Carlos Andrés Solís I guess you would need a multimeter to check for connectivity between the buttons and the current PCB points. Other than that just do a good job soldering..
+Jon Bonilla would you say that the Brooks PCB is about the same size as a PS360+? Im thinking about buying a FH case but would like to know if it'll fit before hand. It would really help alot. Thanks
It's exactly the same foot print
Thank you bro
Just bought it
does this work with steams version of killer instinct? as iv only been able to get a padmodeed one working with plug and play with out extra software to trick it.
Does to board support vibration (that is used to trigger button LED) like the Xbox one killer instinct fight stick?
No
Any idea if PC will support 2 connected brookboards and see them as 2 controllers?
Yeah I do it all the time when friends come over. The UFB shows up as xinput controllers.
Hi! I was wondering how you selected the different game console modes? do you use a combination of buttons to switch between Xbox 360, Xbox one, ps3 ps4, and pc? And how do you know what mode youre currently using?
It auto detects but if you look at the documentation you can force console modes by holding down a button while connecting
I don't have the UFB in hand at the moment but its currently in the mail headed my direction.
I have another question. The diagram for the UFB has a J2 connector, is it for the joystick? If it's for the joystick, can I plug the 5 pin connector directly into J2 connector instead of the J3?
www.brookaccessory.com/detail/06960737/
cesarcpr the j2 is for a PS4 touch pad
Is it a hassle to install this in a Round 1 TE? How do I wire up the HOME button and the usb cable? Do I have to solder them to the pcb?
It's basically plug and play. You do have to solder into the main control panel to access home.
What wire did you use between the PCB and the Neutrik pass-through. Making my own stick and it's the last thing I need.
TheTankTN standard USB "A to B" cable aka a printer cable. Monoprice sells em cheap. Get a short one for the internal wire. The longer the cable, the less reliable it is.
TheTankTN also I'm using a Neutrik USB A to B passthrough
Jon Bonilla Much appreciated!
4:43 you would have super sold me if you did Moment 37
You use octagonal or square?
I use the Otto DIY V5 hybrid gate - a mix of square and circle
any idea if I could put this into a te2 and still use the mad catz led pcb? it's three cables. if not, what kind of LEDs could I use?
It's possible... Reach out to Gummo www.gummowned.com as he already has had experience with the LEDs
Yoo broo, where did you buy those wires? Im searching for some of these but I cant catch any yet.. :(
its just16pc 22 AWG Wire with .110 Quick Disconnect
what color should the board light up
Im a beginner and was wondering what and where do i get the wires
check out www.arcadeshock.com’s universal modding kit
Is there a way to mod this into a hori fighting edge while still using the touch screen/LED functions?
RamZa yes with the LEDs - not too sure with the touch screen though. Please check out the thread on the shoryuken.com forums
I recently bought the brook super converter Xbox 360 to PS4 it worked at first but then it stopped working on the website/support I couldn't find a firmware update for my particular converter. I need help!
This video is for the brook UFB. The latest update is posted on the Brook downloads page.
Does this fighting board work with the Razer Atrox for Xbox One?
It's a replacement PCB so it will work inside any stick..
when I use my chronus I get timed out using my 360 pad on ps4. wondering if this does the same before I spend my money?
No timeout - just make sure to keep the firmware current..
Has anyone gotten an issue where on a ps4 if you have two fightsticks plugged in, onw with a brook board and one not and only one will work at a time?
Hello, Can you get headphone audio from the Brook Ultimate fighting board?
Unfortunately no
Hey bro what are the dimensions of that fight stick looks nice
look up Jasen's Customs Wide Body Panzer. They are out of print already unfortunately.
It´s possible to install Neutrik NE8FDP RJ45 Panel Mount etherCon Connector with this?
USB only
How do you ground all buttons without daisy chains?
You can get a linked terminal block and connect all the buttons to that
Whats the input latency on the ps4 ?
The UFB is considered the fastest board for PS4. WydD did a detailed test here: inputlag.science/controller/results/brook-ufb-ps4-negative-edge
I cannot get this to connect to any console or PC. would I be able to get some assistance?
Hey - that's odd - please contact support directly from the Brook website or check out the tech talk forums on shoryuken.com - look for the Brook Universal Fightboard thread
How is it in respect of the input lag comparing with the Unversal fighting board also by brook? I am assuming the difference shouldn't be much since its made by the same company ?
are you talking about the new sound board? this video is about the UFB. Look at the date i was one of the original testers.
Oh Sorry I meant the "Brook PS3/PS4 Board"
the UFB is the faster PCB out right now for PS4
+Jon Bonilla did you have to update the firmware before using it?
Yes especially since I have beta versions of the board
so do we have to worry about the 8 minute timeout with this board?
Answer is in the description
HEEYYY how about battlefield and having to push down on left joystick to run???
You can hold left + start for 5 seconds to change the joystick to Left Analog. Real question: Why would you play battlefield on a stick though?
@@jonyfraze im a genius..
I want to make a battlefield arcade.
With a arcade gun and steering wheel for vehicles.
I would make 8 of them for tournament /party purposes
@@baperacks-com6801 sounds fun keep me posted
Omg nice board but i got 3 question :
1.This bord is 4 only 1 player ??
2.plug in changegiver
3. max plug button is ??
KRIS B 1) yes 1P only 2) no this is made for consoles not arcades 3) at least 14 buttons + directional inputs
Thx 4 fast respons, omg rly sux, plis tell me you know whether it can somehow connect the mini-pac, IPAc ultimate I.O
Bild my 1 cab, and I am looking for a solution to plug in a panel of PC and consoles
KRIS B you can bridge the PCBs. Just make sure ground and power are connected. You can switch USB cables or use a DPDT switch to toggle between PCBs. Good luck
I don't understand your first question...
Why would an arcade stick be usable for more than one person?
Piece Digital Games
He's probably thinking about an emulator cabinet.
I started having the 8minute timeout on my Brook PCB barely today on 04/06/16. The first couple of days it was fine till today. Does anyone know how to update firmware on the new Brook pcb, I tried going to the Brook site and downloading but I was having issues. Help is greatly appreciated!
Update will be out tomorrow on brook's website. Be patient. The Sony update is less than 24 hours old. Give them time to patch and test it. - Edit: update is posted on brook's website
If I buy a new stick, lets say the Qanba Crystal that's coming out in December, is this PCB the only thing I need to buy for all system compatibility?
Sean Livingston yup if your comfortable soldering to get all the functionality and unless you want to swap the parts for better quality ones. The buttons and stick are Qanba branded (sub par) and not Sanwa.
Jon Bonilla Ahh, so this board was specifically made to work with Samba Parts? So if I bought the TE2 Tournament edition, I would not need to solder?
Sean Livingston it doesn't matter what parts you connect to the pcb. But just letting you know that the new Qanba stick doesn't use the standard parts that most "pro" level sticks use. They are considered "B" grade compared to Sanwa, Seimitsu, or the newer Horizon Kuro parts.
Jon Bonilla ahh okay. I don't know a thing about soldering or sticks, but want to make this as simple as possible on me.
Sean Livingston yeah I wouldn't recommend it if you've not familiar with modding. Or possibly have someone that is help you out. Check out brook's super converters though. For instance if you need xboxone compatibility you can just buy the PS3/PS4 - XBOXONE converter.
Ive gotten this pcb but i havent been able to get it running on my ps4, on pc it detects it but not my ps4. You made it look so simple but yet i followed what you did still can't make it work.
It really is that easy. Did you do all the firmware updates? Are you hitting home when you connect it? If not the above and everything is connected properly something is wrong with your board.
I have two pcb's so atleast one should work. I would say maybe i wired them wrong but my pc is picking up the inputs correctly, but when i try to update it for the ps4 it doesnt recognize the buttons.
Sadly I don't think I'm getting an Xbox One, and my laptop is not powerful enough for Killer Instinct, so I'm gonna have to pass on this. Since I'm planning on getting either a Wii U, or, if its true, a Nintendo NX, I might save up for one of their converters instead of a brand new PCB. Still, I salute Brook for providing all of these cools gadgets.
You just need more RAM to run your Killer Instinct. Or do you own a very old laptop which has certain limitations of the tech?
Actually, at this point I just got a new gaming laptop with 12 gb RAM, Nvidia GTX 970m graphics card and Intel i7. So now I do have KI, but since it's via the Xbox app, I can't use my fightstick, instead using third party software to use it
***** 12 gb RAM? I'm kinda jealous, as i'm upgrading from 3 and half gig on mine to; 8GB DDR3's Dual core RAM. On my Inspiron 1764 on an Intel i5.
Anyways wish you all the best in your endeavors to upgrade.
Thanks man I appreciate that. I'm thinking of upgrading it to 16gb RAM just for safe measures. Also thinking of getting an XBONE adaptor from Brook for KI. Unless there's some third party software, as right now I'm making due with JoytoKey
***** Cool, wish you all the best with that man!
Does it work on the original Xbox?