The O.G machines are still a good choice if you like too tinker. Best bang for the buck I ever had in a utv. 08 Yamaha rhino. Five grand for a 700 cc with parts available. Hard to beat . Great video, and thanks for your honesty and good luck with your machine.
One of the better looking Z I've seen. It all came together real nice. Bang for your buck it's an unbeatable machine. The WC is down with a cracked and cooked trans / rear diff unit 😡.... aftermarket skid plates are more than worth the money. Iron Baltic or Ricochet 👍🏼🍻🍀
I feel your pain with the wildcat! I couldn't get the parts to even repair it since the trans and motor are in the same cast and it was cracked, well blown out.That's the only reason I got rid of it. My Moto did turn out nice, in my opinion. And still under 16.5k not too shabby! Btw, I used 3 star industries for the skid plate!
This is a great video and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I'm fairly close to pulling the trigger on an HO EX. It sounds like I do more casual trail riding than you do. I had a Can Am Defender and it was just like driving my truck so I decided I wanted something more sporty and and more fun. I'm thinking this may fit the bill nicely.
It's a good machine overall. I'm just too rough on them. Mine is down right now and I need it fixed for my next ride at Hatfield McCoy. For the money, you can't go wrong.
Nice!! I paid just under $400 for mine. Its plastic and very forgiving. I had aluminum on my wildcat and it worked fine too. Just about done with my upgrades now. Not doing too much more. Thanks for the post.
Just purchased a 2023 HO EX today in black with the red accents. Fingers crossed that it will hold up. I'm mainly a trail rider. My first Cfmoto so I sure hope that all of the videos I've watched are true. 🤞🍻🇨🇦
I sold it privately in December but not for any negative reasons. Actually I enjoyed it very much. I put 3700kms on it without any issues. The 2 negative things that I can say about it are, it's very expensive to service unless you do it yourself and the resale value/trade in value is horrible. @djWOOF
Just for the record, as I understand the unit, when you put the unit in dif-lock, it automatically puts the unit in ecco. I guess I should've explained that a little better! It sucks. This may be to protect things from breaking or whatever the thoughts of CFMOTO were when designing it.
The 23s are much better just got one has beadlocks on 29s, 64in wide shocks are alittle stiff at slow speeds but are perfect at higher speeds they also bumped the power up and suspension travel but it's not 20in so it has to be alittle stiff but the same turning radius, I think they do that so it's easier on the machine. I like the interior they nailed it nothing bright except the head lights you don't need a light bar.
Have you tried running in sport mode when you engaged the diff lock? Also try using the switch on console that takes the governor off and gives you full throttle, see if that works but again great looking machine!!
Its always in sport. I never use ecco. It sucks on the hills. Any tiire spin stops the power. I hate that. If its gonna break something then let me break it. It should be my decision. Joel with MSC hates it too. If the new tune kills that lame mode then I will get the tune if just for that alone. Thanks, I like the looks of the unit a lot and I'm not getting another anytime soon.
Maybe I need to explore my 950 more I’ve climbed some pretty good hills up here the Rocky’s of Canada and I’ve never had a problem in sport mode yes more power is always good to have of course. Eco mode really does suck!
ruclips.net/video/D35aBjObkQU/видео.html check out this video about the clutch. The exhaust is just a magna flow welded onto the existing pipe with tips.
Nice build. How much you got in that ride aftermarket? I've got the 1000 overland. Tune headers, upper engine mount, stage 2 clutch and 1nc wheel spacers. I've got 700 miles, so far. Get the headers brother, then the tune. Big power with the msc stage 2 or 3 clutch. You'll be 😲 shocked! Msc can do it all for you.
I probably have about 3k in it. I did have the msc tune but got rid of it and put a different one on. I do have the stage 2 spring and helix from their first set up for the clutch upgrade. Wheel spacers, dual exhaust, Ray Parker tune, my diy roll cage, fender flares, yea, about 3k. Tires were the biggest expense.
I sure don't. Have you called a dealer? I'm sure they would know this. Or you can get a code reader for cheap and it should read what ever is going on and it also clears the codes
You wouldn’t have a power issue if you were running stock 27 inch tires, when you go up in size to 30-32 and above you need to upgrade your clutch to stage 2 or 3 you will notice improvement on your machine
Im running stage 3 clutch and its a beast.. The power issue is not gonna be resolved from a clutch but it does help distribute the power at an earlier stage of acceleration... I want the tune.. $400.00 is quite a bit of change to put out. Maybe soon.
I really need to clarify this. I never run in ecco. When the tires spin when the dif-loc is on, the tire spin reduces my power by a lot, like it's in ecco. A true example, I was climbing a slate pit and it was steep and I needed to be in dif-loc. As I started up, it started to spin. All the ppl at the bottom including myself thought I wasn't gonna make it. I could only do 10mph up. It was like it was in ecco. I hope with me sending the ECU off to MSC for a tune that this fixes it because something is seriously wrong.
The z950 has a built in rev limiter. When the unit gets to a certain rpm, it loses power. It wasn't eco mode as i accidentally misled. The unit will not maintain the high rpm without losing power.
Strange you would mention that you lose power when spinning. I have a 2022 Ho ex I have not noticed that issue. I finally hit 100miles and cant really complain as of now. for the money get what we pay for. when it come right down to it. when they are all broken down they are all a pile of crap. its really got to do with maintenence and upkeep
Et si c'était comme ça que les premiers véhicules aurait été construit et que l'ont mettent une caisse autour,comme la voiture actuelle,ont dirait comment ,elle est mieux ?. Bonnes journées.
Cfmoto are probably a overall decent machine but these are budget machines for a reason. They cut so many corners to get that low price. It matter if you can add all this stuff to make it better then by then you could have bought a premium machine. Ever cf I’ve rode or drive feel weaker and sluggish compared to the competition
They are under powered, a little less suspension and yes cheaper. But for all the money I've spent on this machine, it still doesn't add up to a rzr 1000 in price and I have a few things extra, The thing is, its what you want at the end of the day is the only thing that matters. I've had a couple of other machines and they break just like my cfmoto does
@@Rogue.Rider0 need the map. Even tho I'm from there, I don't know the outlaws. I went to school in chapmanville where the speedway is where the school was I went to.
@@sxsoutcast7651 oh ok yeah. I live in mingo county. Once you get out of Williamson headed north towards Kermit, all those trails are outlaw trails. Most of my drone videos on here are on outlaw trails. I live in Kermit. I actually work for WV DEP.
This is correct. I kinda hoped that the shocks would have a little more offering in the stiffness category so the sway bar will be on til I can't figure something else out.
@@josephoverstreet5584 That's exactly what I did. It seemed to help the stability and yet leave some flex in the unit. I still have to adjust the shocks a little bit more but its getting there.
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I've seen videos of that thing doing everything a razor 1000 can do. Keeping up with it speed wise up hills through mud etc
It can do just about anything the others can do.
Nice review and sweet build dude!!! Might be buying one tomorrow
You'll not be disappointed.
Thank you! for sharing and posting this
You're welcome. I hope it was helpful.
The O.G machines are still a good choice if you like too tinker. Best bang for the buck I ever had in a utv. 08 Yamaha rhino. Five grand for a 700 cc with parts available. Hard to beat . Great video, and thanks for your honesty and good luck with your machine.
I tried to be as honest as I could. Sometimes ppl don't like what I say but its my opinion. Thank you for the comment.
One of the better looking Z I've seen. It all came together real nice. Bang for your buck it's an unbeatable machine. The WC is down with a cracked and cooked trans / rear diff unit 😡.... aftermarket skid plates are more than worth the money. Iron Baltic or Ricochet 👍🏼🍻🍀
I feel your pain with the wildcat! I couldn't get the parts to even repair it since the trans and motor are in the same cast and it was cracked, well blown out.That's the only reason I got rid of it. My Moto did turn out nice, in my opinion. And still under 16.5k not too shabby! Btw, I used 3 star industries for the skid plate!
This is a great video and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I'm fairly close to pulling the trigger on an HO EX. It sounds like I do more casual trail riding than you do. I had a Can Am Defender and it was just like driving my truck so I decided I wanted something more sporty and and more fun. I'm thinking this may fit the bill nicely.
It's a good machine overall. I'm just too rough on them. Mine is down right now and I need it fixed for my next ride at Hatfield McCoy. For the money, you can't go wrong.
I like this review.straight shooter.the machine not perfect but at this price point for us normal cruisers we can live with it.
That's a great point. No machine is bulletproof or perfect but the 950, I could've lived with.
Looks great!!!
Thanks, I appreciate it.
All black looks perfect!
@@sxsoffroad43 I agree. Its been a great unit.
Great video working on my skid plate right now it's aluminum diamond plate paid 300 bucks not that bad a job
Nice!! I paid just under $400 for mine. Its plastic and very forgiving. I had aluminum on my wildcat and it worked fine too. Just about done with my upgrades now. Not doing too much more. Thanks for the post.
Just purchased a 2023 HO EX today in black with the red accents. Fingers crossed that it will hold up. I'm mainly a trail rider. My first Cfmoto so I sure hope that all of the videos I've watched are true. 🤞🍻🇨🇦
Awesome. Nice rigs for sure. This is my first one too.
How are you enjoying your cfmoto
I sold it privately in December but not for any negative reasons. Actually I enjoyed it very much. I put 3700kms on it without any issues. The 2 negative things that I can say about it are, it's very expensive to service unless you do it yourself and the resale value/trade in value is horrible. @djWOOF
thanks for that insight! about to buy one - you think the warranty is worth it? I believe its like thousands of dollars!!! @@benmayhew373
Just for the record, as I understand the unit, when you put the unit in dif-lock, it automatically puts the unit in ecco. I guess I should've explained that a little better! It sucks. This may be to protect things from breaking or whatever the thoughts of CFMOTO were when designing it.
The 23s are much better just got one has beadlocks on 29s, 64in wide shocks are alittle stiff at slow speeds but are perfect at higher speeds they also bumped the power up and suspension travel but it's not 20in so it has to be alittle stiff but the same turning radius, I think they do that so it's easier on the machine. I like the interior they nailed it nothing bright except the head lights you don't need a light bar.
Have you tried running in sport mode when you engaged the diff lock? Also try using the switch on console that takes the governor off and gives you full throttle, see if that works but again great looking machine!!
Its always in sport. I never use ecco. It sucks on the hills. Any tiire spin stops the power. I hate that. If its gonna break something then let me break it. It should be my decision. Joel with MSC hates it too. If the new tune kills that lame mode then I will get the tune if just for that alone. Thanks, I like the looks of the unit a lot and I'm not getting another anytime soon.
Maybe I need to explore my 950 more I’ve climbed some pretty good hills up here the Rocky’s of Canada and I’ve never had a problem in sport mode yes more power is always good to have of course.
Eco mode really does suck!
It absolutely does suck. When the tires spin when it is dif-loc, the power drops to nothing. I love the machine otherwise.
Where did you get the rear spare tire carrier? Been looking everywhere and cant find one that fits
I made it from steel pipe and welded it together.
What spring and where is it clocked for the clutch? Do you have a clip of the exhaust?
ruclips.net/video/D35aBjObkQU/видео.html check out this video about the clutch. The exhaust is just a magna flow welded onto the existing pipe with tips.
I saw a video about the msc tune. It seems they fix that power loss issue you describe when climbing.
It does fix that issue. As for performance, its a lot better than stock.
I’d just like to admire the Ferguson hat
Well, being a plumber for 36 years I kinda collected a ton of supply house hats.
@@sxsoutcast7651 being a trucker I’ve collected a bunch of hats from places I deliver to. I’ve got a bunch from them lol.
I see you have newer videos of some issues your having, just curious do you still think it is a great machine do you have any regrets buying a cfmoto
Not really. All units have problems. If this becomes an ongoing issue then I may change my mind.
Nice build. How much you got in that ride aftermarket? I've got the 1000 overland. Tune headers, upper engine mount, stage 2 clutch and 1nc wheel spacers. I've got 700 miles, so far. Get the headers brother, then the tune. Big power with the msc stage 2 or 3 clutch. You'll be 😲 shocked! Msc can do it all for you.
I probably have about 3k in it.
I did have the msc tune but got rid of it and put a different one on. I do have the stage 2 spring and helix from their first set up for the clutch upgrade. Wheel spacers, dual exhaust, Ray Parker tune, my diy roll cage, fender flares, yea, about 3k. Tires were the biggest expense.
If you press the triangle while losing power in diff lock mode it overrides it and gives you full power.
That's correct. I didn't know that at the time
My 950 keeps going into limp mode and blinking 186 on the odometer. Do you know what that means?
I sure don't. Have you called a dealer? I'm sure they would know this. Or you can get a code reader for cheap and it should read what ever is going on and it also clears the codes
Looking for information on the spare tire rack
I think MSC and 3 star industries have them.. I built mine
You wouldn’t have a power issue if you were running stock 27 inch tires, when you go up in size to 30-32 and above you need to upgrade your clutch to stage 2 or 3 you will notice improvement on your machine
Im running stage 3 clutch and its a beast.. The power issue is not gonna be resolved from a clutch but it does help distribute the power at an earlier stage of acceleration... I want the tune.. $400.00 is quite a bit of change to put out. Maybe soon.
Why are you spinning tires in ECO? Use Sport mode.
I really need to clarify this. I never run in ecco. When the tires spin when the dif-loc is on, the tire spin reduces my power by a lot, like it's in ecco. A true example, I was climbing a slate pit and it was steep and I needed to be in dif-loc. As I started up, it started to spin. All the ppl at the bottom including myself thought I wasn't gonna make it. I could only do 10mph up. It was like it was in ecco. I hope with me sending the ECU off to MSC for a tune that this fixes it because something is seriously wrong.
What year is it ?
2021
Why use Eco mode on anything but the road? Not a design flaw, just improper utilization
The z950 has a built in rev limiter. When the unit gets to a certain rpm, it loses power. It wasn't eco mode as i accidentally misled. The unit will not maintain the high rpm without losing power.
Strange you would mention that you lose power when spinning. I have a 2022 Ho ex I have not noticed that issue. I finally hit 100miles and cant really complain as of now. for the money get what we pay for. when it come right down to it. when they are all broken down they are all a pile of crap. its really got to do with maintenence and upkeep
@@thatmainah562 This is the rev limiter that I didn't realize existed when I purchased the unit. I no longer have it.
Should of done a walk-around first hehe
I kinda did. I didn't show all the upgrades but I will eventually.
Et si c'était comme ça que les premiers véhicules aurait été construit et que l'ont mettent une caisse autour,comme la voiture actuelle,ont dirait comment ,elle est mieux ?.
Bonnes journées.
If you are asking about the frame or cage then yes, its better.
Cfmoto are probably a overall decent machine but these are budget machines for a reason. They cut so many corners to get that low price. It matter if you can add all this stuff to make it better then by then you could have bought a premium machine. Ever cf I’ve rode or drive feel weaker and sluggish compared to the competition
They are under powered, a little less suspension and yes cheaper. But for all the money I've spent on this machine, it still doesn't add up to a rzr 1000 in price and I have a few things extra, The thing is, its what you want at the end of the day is the only thing that matters. I've had a couple of other machines and they break just like my cfmoto does
@@sxsoutcast7651 I do like they come equipped with accessories. my biggest complaint is the engines they just feel lazy.
@@TwinTurboToyota They are but we know this. We enhance the clutch and tunes to get the best we can.
Sounds like your riding style does not follow the Owners manual guidelines 🤣
Nope. I can't keep em running.
Call msc and speak to Joel or Dillon they will take care of you
I agree. Joel's a Wildman.😅
I rode one and the power feels to constricted. Quality control sucks to.
They do restrict it. But a tune and a clutch kit and the power is awesome.
@@sxsoutcast7651 I seen you ride Hatfield McCoy trails. My family is the Hatfield’s. Just so ya know the outlaw trails are 10x better and lawless….
@@Rogue.Rider0 need the map. Even tho I'm from there, I don't know the outlaws. I went to school in chapmanville where the speedway is where the school was I went to.
@@sxsoutcast7651 oh ok yeah. I live in mingo county. Once you get out of Williamson headed north towards Kermit, all those trails are outlaw trails. Most of my drone videos on here are on outlaw trails. I live in Kermit. I actually work for WV DEP.
@@Rogue.Rider0 my bro works off of cattle creek for a coal company. I don't remember the name.
🤦🏻♂️ with any sxs, no sway bar will have a lot of body roll.
This is correct. I kinda hoped that the shocks would have a little more offering in the stiffness category so the sway bar will be on til I can't figure something else out.
@@sxsoutcast7651 just leave the rear in and front off
@@josephoverstreet5584 That's exactly what I did. It seemed to help the stability and yet leave some flex in the unit. I still have to adjust the shocks a little bit more but its getting there.
The winches that come on all these machines are junk. 2 light pulls on mine and in the garbage can it went.
I've done a few and it's been ok so far
Great review about junk China machines?????
Wow, great comment.
Don't all sxs parts come from China?
Get a maverick.
Nah. I like the price of my unit. The ecco is getting changed so it'll be fine.
Not everyone can spend that kind of cash on expensive canadian junk