Hi Gabe, I wanted to tell you how great your videos are, both on this channel and on the FR24 channel. I always thought that an aviation video had to be without music, less cuts, etc. but you showed me how comfortable and cozy you can feel when watching aviation videos. The Style of Music + The pictures are pure Enjoyment - Thank you very much, greetings from Nuremberg, Daniel (PS Nuremberg has a very, very nice little airport - come by sometime)
Wonderful video again, Middle East carriers took over the customers from India when Air India went down with their services when it was a government entity. Moreover those under performed crews are about to retire or air India is to deploy them for ground services and recently they have acquired around 5000 young crews for replacement. Again at the end there will be a room for every airline companies, all will be growing eventually.
Great video. The Hindu Kush looked amazing and honesty any snowy mountains on a clear day look great from a plane. Would be cool to see Mt Everest or K2 from a plane.
What was sorely lacking with the interior, and service was luckily made up for with what I will call the scenic overload! Wow. Flight awareness is obviously important in that part of the world. Thanks - Jim
Great content as always Gabe. Love how you are so constructive and don’t sound entitled. Exactly why I subscribe to you or Jeb Brooks or Dennis Bunnik, and not Josh Cahill.
Thanks for your review. $850 round trip? Wow for business class that’s a bargain and I would probably overlook a few shortcomings for that fare. The Gulf carriers would charge up to 3 times that amount. I’m a regular flyer on Air France and find their cost is competitive considering the high standard of the product however Air India sounds like a steal. 😊😊. Point to make about your video, you talked about the lounge but didn’t show us anything there?
It's puzzling how a relatively new plane, the 787 is looking like a beat-up 747. Maintenance and care is clearly the issue, I hope they look after their products when it's fully rolled out
This will be interesting to see. Right now, I'm not completely convinced since their new business class seems sort of like "business lite", but that said I do understand that they are early on in their expansion plans and it will probably take some time to get it all sorted.
The 787 were already a mess in 2017 after a very short time in the sky. Things were falling apart then and pretty disgusting throughout the plane with stains and dirt everywhere you looked. The interior looked 15 years out of date then when freshly installed. I can't imagine how much grime is worn into them by now. Really hope the majority of passengers will be more considerate with the new planes and will they be cleaned to premium standards?
I honestly think the 787s show wear & tear much more quickly because their interiors were built with cheaper materials. I don't have proof that this is true, but I've always felt as if the materials inside were very plasticky and flimsy, and it makes sense that they would also be more susceptible to grime and decay if so. That seems to be true of the 787 exterior too in some cases - have you seen some of the wings with all the delamination and speed tape covering them up? Makes 10 year old airframes look 40 years old. Kinda sad.
Certainly the Dreamliner feeling soon wore off after A350 came out but the mentioned issues I found with AI only and never noticed anything close with 10+ other airlines where I recall flying 787. Hopefully they continue to make better choices, the refits are done well and they dump the red carpets etc. After also some really bad domestic flights and seeing the mess so many of their planes were in then I lost confidence that they take care of safety related maintenance to high enough standards so I put them in the no fly list. The takeover will still mean 1000s of people remain who could take some time to end the old ways. They should have decided a date and done a full brand restart and a new name. No one has memories long enough to remember the good old days of AI.
Please do understand, the Terror-Threat on Delhi airport is much higher than you can ever imagine in any other airport. After the Delhi parliament attack, the security in Delhi airport or in that case in any other airport is very high in india.
What makes an airline a global one is the consistency in service, tasty and well presented food , punctuality and good maintenance to their aircraft interiors and mechanics. Gabe your were soft in your judgment as always but for sure it shows you didn’t like the food 🫣
True! But even good airlines can have bad days so I like to give the benefit of the doubt as long as they weren’t outright hostile to me. What I like about Air India is that they are trying very hard to improve, so I’m maybe a little more accepting of flaws in the service. Some other airlines out there are bad and simply don’t care! Thanks for your comment, and for watching!
hi i just have a question cause i want to make plane content, is it embarrasing to hold a camera and record in a crowded place? im a bit shy but not camera shy, if you could answer that would be great
Dear gabe thanks again for your work. You 'Re looking great with the shapped beard New Look. Like it a long t. For your family and yourself a happy xmas time and greetx from FRA. Kai
2026 will be the year when the average review turns positive. Until then, my money will go elsewhere. Air India CEO just said that 777s will only get retrofitted in '26, so that's what it's all about.
Air India is talking about retrofitting existing B777s, whilst others are buying A350s and waiting on their B777-9 deliveries, also in 2026. They seem to be a procurement cycle behind the competition.
@@karlp8484air india bought many 350 and 777x to delivery of those jets (320neo,350,787) will start next year and they also have 10 777x on order so they are in front of
@@karlp8484 Well they can't really twiddle their thumbs and just watch, while they wait for delivery on their gargantuan order of 470 odd airplanes (at $70 Billion) that they ordered in Feb 2023, with options to add another 300 later. AFAIR, the distribution was Airbus: 140 A320neo, 70 A321neo, 20 A350-1000, and 20 A350-900, Boeing: 190 737 MAX, 20 787-9, and 10 777-9).
The 777 retrofit may be in 2026, but at least they are going to replace some tapestry in the 777 like curtains and seat cushions as a stop gap solution early next year. Those jets are in dire need of a deep clean, and the Tatas are finally taking action.
I think we all should support air india wholeheartedly, because if they get money, they will definitely improve their service, without support of Indians, it will be like PIA of Pakistan, we shouldn't wait for new planes, instead we should opt for these actively so that they get appreciated and can invest in more planes❤
Find Air India’s oldest products and then farm that out for content- go to aviation influencer formula. What are these guys gonna do in 2-3 years when the hard product is entirely new? The number of white influencers specifically targeting Indian airlines for this says it all
Tired cabin interiors...shabby looking food. Definitely not inspiring anyone to fly AI. Whatever happened to that 400 million dollar retrofit that the CEO announced 3 years ago starting with wide-bodies? Superficially creating a new livery and font and designer uniform is putting lipstick on a pig. Uggh.... AI apologists, please excuse.
I would say they are making progress, even if it's slower than some would like. At least they're working really hard to turn it around! I have high hopes for the future.
@@Oceanstait should in a perfect world, but airline pricing is largely unrelated to the quality of the specific product on a given route. However it’s a good question! I just searched random dates on LHR-DEL. AC is $2700, AI $3300, and BA/VS are $7000+.
@@airedition there you go. I'll give you another insight: Indians are generally not very worldly. They want familiarity. They want their Indian food and so many are first time travellers so they want a crew who can speak the language and guide/help them through the process. Countries where large Indian diaspora exist like UK, US,Canada : AI is most preferred by Indians for these reasons. Therefore, they have a sort of monopoly on those sectors leading up to complacency. Hope I'm making sense.
Gabe I think air India is not at fault because they’re trying to improve as soon as possible but our first PM Jawaharlal Nehru’s airline act destroyed it and delayed privatisation attempts led to it’s worst performance with corruption ripping off though if you think why was it famous in 1970s and 1990s it was because of JRD Tata who led this airline even after Nationalisation and he was the first pilot to get license in India at that time but after his death the company went down and Middle East carrier took all it’s elite customers and corrupt people destroyed it though for food you should complain because food should be improved immediately along with amenities. Though this plane may be less than 10 years old also but thanks to them this plane became one of the worst 787 especially in full service airline. Though Gabe please try air India back in 2 years they will be ahead of middle eastern airlines because tata has a lot of technical expertise & hospitality experience they even own taj hotels.
While u were talking about “The Lounge”, why didn’t you give us a visual of it and food offerings. I hope u improve your camera subject style and not so much your face talking. I will stay a sub for now.
Hi Gabe, I wanted to tell you how great your videos are, both on this channel and on the FR24 channel. I always thought that an aviation video had to be without music, less cuts, etc. but you showed me how comfortable and cozy you can feel when watching aviation videos. The Style of Music + The pictures are pure Enjoyment - Thank you very much, greetings from Nuremberg, Daniel (PS Nuremberg has a very, very nice little airport - come by sometime)
Wonderful video again, Middle East carriers took over the customers from India when Air India went down with their services when it was a government entity. Moreover those under performed crews are about to retire or air India is to deploy them for ground services and recently they have acquired around 5000 young crews for replacement. Again at the end there will be a room for every airline companies, all will be growing eventually.
Yeah, I look forward to seeing how they bring it all together in the future. I understand that it will take some time. And thank you!
Great video. The Hindu Kush looked amazing and honesty any snowy mountains on a clear day look great from a plane. Would be cool to see Mt Everest or K2 from a plane.
Thank you! Yes those kinds of views never get old.
What was sorely lacking with the interior, and service was luckily made up for with what I will call the scenic overload! Wow. Flight awareness is obviously important in that part of the world. Thanks - Jim
Yes, definitely some interesting potential emergency planning up there with unfriendly nations and high mountains all around.
Great content as always Gabe. Love how you are so constructive and don’t sound entitled. Exactly why I subscribe to you or Jeb Brooks or Dennis Bunnik, and not Josh Cahill.
You are millions times right, I follow Gabe for the same reason.
Thank you very much, that means a lot!
Thanks for your review. $850 round trip? Wow for business class that’s a bargain and I would probably overlook a few shortcomings for that fare. The Gulf carriers would charge up to 3 times that amount. I’m a regular flyer on Air France and find their cost is competitive considering the high standard of the product however Air India sounds like a steal. 😊😊. Point to make about your video, you talked about the lounge but didn’t show us anything there?
When you pay top dollar, you ARE entitled as a consumer. Especially in Business Class.
@@Oceansta Glad you are not making RUclips videos in that case
It's puzzling how a relatively new plane, the 787 is looking like a beat-up 747. Maintenance and care is clearly the issue, I hope they look after their products when it's fully rolled out
This was aircraft old. New ones are really good.
The 787-8 has been around for long enough now that they are ready for full refreshes. Once these are done, the planes will be competitive again.
I think Air India's biggest competitor will be IndiGo. They have a huge order for the Airbus A350, part of an overall order for 450 planes. Blimey.
Yeah, the A350 is the arch nemesis of the 787. Passengers and airlines both prefer it.
This will be interesting to see. Right now, I'm not completely convinced since their new business class seems sort of like "business lite", but that said I do understand that they are early on in their expansion plans and it will probably take some time to get it all sorted.
The 787 were already a mess in 2017 after a very short time in the sky. Things were falling apart then and pretty disgusting throughout the plane with stains and dirt everywhere you looked. The interior looked 15 years out of date then when freshly installed. I can't imagine how much grime is worn into them by now. Really hope the majority of passengers will be more considerate with the new planes and will they be cleaned to premium standards?
I honestly think the 787s show wear & tear much more quickly because their interiors were built with cheaper materials. I don't have proof that this is true, but I've always felt as if the materials inside were very plasticky and flimsy, and it makes sense that they would also be more susceptible to grime and decay if so. That seems to be true of the 787 exterior too in some cases - have you seen some of the wings with all the delamination and speed tape covering them up? Makes 10 year old airframes look 40 years old. Kinda sad.
Certainly the Dreamliner feeling soon wore off after A350 came out but the mentioned issues I found with AI only and never noticed anything close with 10+ other airlines where I recall flying 787. Hopefully they continue to make better choices, the refits are done well and they dump the red carpets etc. After also some really bad domestic flights and seeing the mess so many of their planes were in then I lost confidence that they take care of safety related maintenance to high enough standards so I put them in the no fly list. The takeover will still mean 1000s of people remain who could take some time to end the old ways. They should have decided a date and done a full brand restart and a new name. No one has memories long enough to remember the good old days of AI.
Please do understand, the Terror-Threat on Delhi airport is much higher than you can ever imagine in any other airport. After the Delhi parliament attack, the security in Delhi airport or in that case in any other airport is very high in india.
What makes an airline a global one is the consistency in service, tasty and well presented food , punctuality and good maintenance to their aircraft interiors and mechanics. Gabe your were soft in your judgment as always but for sure it shows you didn’t like the food 🫣
True! But even good airlines can have bad days so I like to give the benefit of the doubt as long as they weren’t outright hostile to me. What I like about Air India is that they are trying very hard to improve, so I’m maybe a little more accepting of flaws in the service. Some other airlines out there are bad and simply don’t care! Thanks for your comment, and for watching!
@ I wouldn’t agree more and this what makes your reviews more unique than others and worth watching as you are more realistic to the core 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Crew is good but the food which is provided by the catering company to the airlines may be little bit low than what people expect from them !!
I Have Fly On A Simarl Seats Whit Kenya Airways.Nairobi -Amsterdam,I Dont Like,Loud MusicIn The Lounge.Great Video And Info
Right Kenya has basically the same seats!
hi i just have a question cause i want to make plane content, is it embarrasing to hold a camera and record in a crowded place? im a bit shy but not camera shy, if you could answer that would be great
Superb Vlog 3 Air India Vlog 🇮🇳 I Love ❤️ It Thanks For Showing 😀
My pleasure 😊
Dear gabe thanks again for your work. You 'Re looking great with the shapped beard New Look. Like it a long t. For your family and yourself a happy xmas time and greetx from FRA. Kai
Thank you very much, and happy holidays to you too!
Send your review off to the CEO of Air India with regards to your findings eps. regarding the service. 😊
It would be interesting to see what he would say, though I'm not completely sure that I have that kind of reach.... yet :)
Hi Gabe. You look very much like the Danish comedian, Thomas Hartmann.
Oh funny, never heard that before! I'll have to watch some of his stuff now.
@@airedition Please do! And I am not joking about the resemblance. I forgot to praise your channel, sorry. It is great! ❤
2026 will be the year when the average review turns positive. Until then, my money will go elsewhere. Air India CEO just said that 777s will only get retrofitted in '26, so that's what it's all about.
Air India is talking about retrofitting existing B777s, whilst others are buying A350s and waiting on their B777-9 deliveries, also in 2026. They seem to be a procurement cycle behind the competition.
@@karlp8484air india bought many 350 and 777x to delivery of those jets (320neo,350,787) will start next year and they also have 10 777x on order so they are in front of
@@karlp8484 Well they can't really twiddle their thumbs and just watch, while they wait for delivery on their gargantuan order of 470 odd airplanes (at $70 Billion) that they ordered in Feb 2023, with options to add another 300 later. AFAIR, the distribution was Airbus: 140 A320neo, 70 A321neo, 20 A350-1000, and 20 A350-900, Boeing: 190 737 MAX, 20 787-9, and 10 777-9).
Meanwhile, it is nice to see the A350 deployed internationally, in addition to the 787 retrofits which are coming soon.
The 777 retrofit may be in 2026, but at least they are going to replace some tapestry in the 777 like curtains and seat cushions as a stop gap solution early next year. Those jets are in dire need of a deep clean, and the Tatas are finally taking action.
I think we all should support air india wholeheartedly, because if they get money, they will definitely improve their service, without support of Indians, it will be like PIA of Pakistan, we shouldn't wait for new planes, instead we should opt for these actively so that they get appreciated and can invest in more planes❤
They definitely need to fresh up their interior. It’s so dated.
Yeah, the good news is it’s happening soon!
2 days back Air india has bought 10 787-8s from china southern
source?
I don’t believe anything like that has been announced
US$ 850 for a business round trip?? 😮
Yes it was,promo sale like in summer specifically from Copenhagen
It was a fantastic deal! I attached a link in the description to the luxury flight club, which is where I found this deal in the first place.
Well it’s one of the worst airlines in the world so what can I even expect
But improving! So that's important.
Find Air India’s oldest products and then farm that out for content- go to aviation influencer formula. What are these guys gonna do in 2-3 years when the hard product is entirely new?
The number of white influencers specifically targeting Indian airlines for this says it all
Tired cabin interiors...shabby looking food. Definitely not inspiring anyone to fly AI. Whatever happened to that 400 million dollar retrofit that the CEO announced 3 years ago starting with wide-bodies? Superficially creating a new livery and font and designer uniform is putting lipstick on a pig. Uggh....
AI apologists, please excuse.
I would say they are making progress, even if it's slower than some would like. At least they're working really hard to turn it around! I have high hopes for the future.
@airedition prices should reflect the quality. In any search, AI is usually in the top 5 most expensive. Am I wrong?
@@Oceanstait should in a perfect world, but airline pricing is largely unrelated to the quality of the specific product on a given route. However it’s a good question! I just searched random dates on LHR-DEL. AC is $2700, AI $3300, and BA/VS are $7000+.
@@airedition there you go.
I'll give you another insight: Indians are generally not very worldly. They want familiarity. They want their Indian food and so many are first time travellers so they want a crew who can speak the language and guide/help them through the process. Countries where large Indian diaspora exist like UK, US,Canada : AI is most preferred by Indians for these reasons. Therefore, they have a sort of monopoly on those sectors leading up to complacency. Hope I'm making sense.
Gabe I think air India is not at fault because they’re trying to improve as soon as possible but our first PM Jawaharlal Nehru’s airline act destroyed it and delayed privatisation attempts led to it’s worst performance with corruption ripping off though if you think why was it famous in 1970s and 1990s it was because of JRD Tata who led this airline even after Nationalisation and he was the first pilot to get license in India at that time but after his death the company went down and Middle East carrier took all it’s elite customers and corrupt people destroyed it though for food you should complain because food should be improved immediately along with amenities. Though this plane may be less than 10 years old also but thanks to them this plane became one of the worst 787 especially in full service airline. Though Gabe please try air India back in 2 years they will be ahead of middle eastern airlines because tata has a lot of technical expertise & hospitality experience they even own taj hotels.
In India from Buses, trucks to aerospace & hotels Tata is present in all things.
I’ll be flying and following them regularly during this very interesting time of transition, for sure!
@@airedition actually in march 2025 Delhi may get a new airport in noida 70km far but that one is near and Taj Mahal
While u were talking about “The Lounge”, why didn’t you give us a visual of it and food offerings. I hope u improve your camera subject style and not so much your face talking. I will stay a sub for now.