That’s a fact, can’t go wrong with either. I just recently seen on ECS that Hengst is now manufacturing in Poland not Germany anymore. Don’t know if the quality will change so just been sticking with Mann for now.
Mann has been building filters for all the German OEMs for years...... Porsche, VW, Audi, and Mercedes. I used them for years on a my German cars........never an oil concern or engine failure!! But then again i never ran oil longer than 5000 miles........mostly 3000 mile oil changes . Mann builds good filters. But.......i rarely let any of my vehicles go past 3000 miles.......so the filters are always changed then too. On my Chevrolet Malibu i just used a Fram Max life.......seems to be a great filter too!! Ran one 3150 miles and just changed the oil and filter yesterday... .. .oil looked nice and clean. Cut the filter open....... beautifully clean and nice filter!! First time i ever cut a filter open..... I bought a filter cutter a few weeks ago thanks to you!! Very cool! Thanks!! 50 years working on engines, 30 years for VW/ Audi and i learned something cool and new!! Always learning!! Love it!!
On my BMW and my Nissan pickup I only use Mann filters. I change my oil & filter on both vehicles every 3,000 miles. I have used Hengst filters a few times and they are also a good alternative.
As a very small Euro specific repair shop owner I only use Mann, Hengst, as well as Mahle. All very high quality in general. That said a large percentage of filters on Euro cars now are cartridge filters and not metal can filters
Mann filters are common in the UK, they can be bought for just a little more than the cheapest option if you shop around too, cool to see you review something I can actually buy 😂 nice to hear they get FBM seal of approval too
@@FordBossMe sometimes I can use US amazon to get items cheaper because they offer free import duty and the shipping prices can be really cheap.. Dunno if it works the other way but it may be worth trying amazon.co.uk instead of .com to see if you can get a deal buying a few at once.. I just got a ryobi impact wrench for £45 shipped from the states, would have cost me £95 from UK 🇺🇸🤠
@@FordBossMe Been using Mann on my BMW for 13 years. With Valvoline Syn. Looked under the cover 5 months ago, so clean I took pics. 140k, no oil use. Change it about 7,500
I've owned VW's for 15 years and used Mann air and oil filters since day 1 with zero complaints. It's also nice being able to change the oil filter topside. 👍 🇩🇪 cars 👍 🇺🇸 (Ford) pickups Would love to see the VW Amarok pickup over here but that'll never happen.
@@Tread69 That is easier said than done because most of the filters are either made in Mexico or Poland. Liqui Molly oil is still made in Germany though.
Mann and Hengst are definitely my go to for my Audi. Hengst just recently switched production to Poland, not sure how I feel about that or if quality will change. Sticking with Mann, that made in Germany stamp just makes you feel good 😭😭
Seen some air filter tests of Hengst, and it came out on the very top. I have otherwise always preferred MAHLE, but after their merge with the lower quality Knecht, it seems they are now using the inferior Knecht designs/quality.
As an old Mercedes guy, I mainly use Hengst, even on my E46. They are awesome. That said, most of the ones I use are not in cans. If they made one for my Mustang (that I could find), I would probably use it.
Looks like the Hengst filters are the ones that get rebranded as GM filters (white can with blue GM logo). They have the same hole placement and grooves in the can.
I have the T1N 5 cylinder Sprinter-MB and have used the Hengst brand oil filter element but BUT the Hengst has a white larger o ring that will not give enough resistance as compared to MB's black o ring and the white Hengst, being too soft, will allow you to over torque the bell and crush the filter element (white plastic cage inner barrel) and then the filter will not perform and crap up your fresh oil in 4-6K miles. Vincent Rolfe has a youtube vid on this Hengst problem. So I continue with the Hengst but use some older black MB large o rings and that works OK. Will look into the Mann filters. Used to use those on my 180D. Peugeot gas motors years ago used a Purflux filter and those were super quality compared to other brands.
Mann oil filters are my go to.. I have used hengst before, will never buy fram again because i find them cheaply made here in the UK you can't get the more expensive fram's so I just won't buy them cheap flimsy things.
I use the Mann 950/4 on my 1.8 turbo Volkswagen. Mainly because my car requires a 2.5 bar bypass valve. And an aftermarket filter generally has a .7-1.0 bar bypass. The Mann is oem for my car.
These are the filters we always used on mercedes vehicles. After several years after they changed to 12,000 mile changes they changed the filters due to collapsing filters. After that I never saw any issues. The real problem was that folks dont read the owners manual. It says 12,000 miles or once a year. Folks never read the once a year part. Or chose to ignore it. Anyway, if a car was a regular in my shop we took care of it properly. No such thing as lifetime anything or 100,000 mile anything. Both filters are made to do what was required of them. I do not remember any filter caused issues except were folks didnt change their oil.
I call BS on this, 2 different oil filters not a good apples to apples comparison as these filters are for different engine applications, if you were using the same filters for the same engine I feel that it would be a fair comparison.
You ain't got to watch anything that you don't like and you don't have to run your mouth if you don't like what you're saying and just simple as that and then I can make sure you cant ever comment here if you want to be rude Or you can tone it down and then possibly need my help one day since I have access to everything at the dealer and I can get it for you...you make that choice...next time you'll be gone
Maybe some, but certainly not all. I interviewed for a job at Hengst in Columbia, SC (technically in Camden) once. I got a tour of the plant, and it seemed like a decent tool maker job, but it's on the opposite side of Columbia from me, and probably a 45-50 drive one way, which I didn't feel like doing. It was a decent size facility, and they looked like they were pushing out a lot of oil filters. You can Google search "Hengst Camden South Carolina" if you'd like proof of what I'm saying.
I have a 1971 VW Bug. It does not have an oil filter. Just a sump and screen. I clean the screen with kerosene or gasoline and then light a match to dry it. Do not try this at home. Then I thread on a Mann OEM spin-on filter from my Jetta.
In Europe we have internetshops and asking for your car, type, year, engine... after they show up with recommended filters. So ive seen you are doing Ford?! But the funny thing is, if I type some Ford, those sites are showing up mostly with Fram filters and I have a Honda and then the recommended filters are Bosch and Mann.
Great video, like always, just out of curiosity, do you think the thread count could be related to how many threads are on the vehicle? I've noticed that some of the filters are different sizes so I assume they are for different applications. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Again, great videos, and keep up the good work.
My neighbor is an engineer for mann at their long Beach location He repairs cargo ship engines 4 stories tall tells me how they climb in through intake valves to do cylinder repairs 🤯 He brought a turbo home one time for what he calls a small generator the truck was slammed thing was massive turbo wheel was bigger than my head 🤯🤘👌
Weird that the s21 ultra is having camera overheating problems. I’ve only experienced it with recording 4k60 and 8k giving time limits on how much I could record.
We use the ones over the counter through commercial, not on retail. Not sure if they are different but it was something I had noticed when doing oil changes on anything that isn’t Honda
@@FordBossMe well I got news for you. I just got a oil filter from napa for my Chevy, 1042 number and it's got a Mann+hummel sticker on the bottom left corner. I've been told mann makes some wix filters and it could be a case of double rebranding or who knows who makes what. All I do know is my napa gold filter says mann on it and I'm not complaining about the rebranding. Mann is some top notch stuff.
The Hengst filter appears to flow across, rather than through the paper. If the ends aren't secured to anything, how does it work at all? If the by-pass scheme is to push the pleats away from that cheezy seal, then it get's a fail score from me.
@@FordBossMe I like my Mahle and Mann... Mahle is usually at the top. But once I did an air filter for a 2007 Volvo V70 and the dimensions of their air filter were completely off. I It fit so poorly in the airbox I express ordered a Mann Filter and it fit perfectly. Am I tripping... I almost feel like they put the wrong filter in the box.
The byPass valve i compared to the royal purple has a loose one but everything else is the same and i feel like the Mann is built better
Could you do a comparison on diesel filters and if there are any difference between a gas filter
We use these filters daily and they are genuine for many Bmw, Mercedes Audi etc. they are top grade
Which one playboy
That’s a fact, can’t go wrong with either. I just recently seen on ECS that Hengst is now manufacturing in Poland not Germany anymore. Don’t know if the quality will change so just been sticking with Mann for now.
Mann has been building filters for all the German OEMs for years...... Porsche, VW, Audi, and Mercedes. I used them for years on a my German cars........never an oil concern or engine failure!! But then again i never ran oil longer than 5000 miles........mostly 3000 mile oil changes . Mann builds good filters.
But.......i rarely let any of my vehicles go past 3000 miles.......so the filters are always changed then too. On my Chevrolet Malibu i just used a Fram Max life.......seems to be a great filter too!! Ran one 3150 miles and just changed the oil and filter yesterday... .. .oil looked nice and clean. Cut the filter open....... beautifully clean and nice filter!! First time i ever cut a filter open.....
I bought a filter cutter a few weeks ago thanks to you!! Very cool! Thanks!! 50 years working on engines, 30 years for VW/ Audi and i learned something cool and new!! Always learning!! Love it!!
Wow thats awesome brother
On my BMW and my Nissan pickup I only use Mann filters. I change my oil & filter on both vehicles every 3,000 miles. I have used Hengst filters a few times and they are also a good alternative.
As already mentioned in the comments: MANN, HENGST & MAHLE are the leading oil filters in the "old Europe". Best quality you can get.
@chris jones For me depends on the application. Oil Filters and Cabin Filters are mostly MANN while Fuel Filters I buy from MAHLE. 😅
Purflux also :)
As a very small Euro specific repair shop owner I only use Mann, Hengst, as well as Mahle. All very high quality in general. That said a large percentage of filters on Euro cars now are cartridge filters and not metal can filters
The Mann is Beefy and Stout
Mann filters are common in the UK, they can be bought for just a little more than the cheapest option if you shop around too, cool to see you review something I can actually buy 😂 nice to hear they get FBM seal of approval too
I may actually start using these
@@FordBossMe sometimes I can use US amazon to get items cheaper because they offer free import duty and the shipping prices can be really cheap.. Dunno if it works the other way but it may be worth trying amazon.co.uk instead of .com to see if you can get a deal buying a few at once.. I just got a ryobi impact wrench for £45 shipped from the states, would have cost me £95 from UK 🇺🇸🤠
@@FordBossMe Been using Mann on my BMW for 13 years. With Valvoline Syn. Looked under the cover 5 months ago, so clean I took pics. 140k, no oil use. Change it about 7,500
I've owned VW's for 15 years and used Mann air and oil filters since day 1 with zero complaints. It's also nice being able to change the oil filter topside.
👍 🇩🇪 cars
👍 🇺🇸 (Ford) pickups
Would love to see the VW Amarok pickup over here but that'll never happen.
Agreed, I just prefer the Mann filters produced in Germany vs other countries.
On diesel pathfinders OEM is Mann filters, I buy mann branded filters and it does a great job had no problems in 4 years
@@Tread69 That is easier said than done because most of the filters are either made in Mexico or Poland. Liqui Molly oil is still made in Germany though.
Mann, Hengst, Mahle (Knecht), Purflux, UFI - are the main OEM suppliers of filters to car manufacturesrs in Europe. These are trusted.
I believe the hengst filters are also oem on some gm vehicles
Mann and Hengst are definitely my go to for my Audi. Hengst just recently switched production to Poland, not sure how I feel about that or if quality will change. Sticking with Mann, that made in Germany stamp just makes you feel good 😭😭
Seen some air filter tests of Hengst, and it came out on the very top. I have otherwise always preferred MAHLE, but after their merge with the lower quality Knecht, it seems they are now using the inferior Knecht designs/quality.
As an old Mercedes guy, I mainly use Hengst, even on my E46. They are awesome. That said, most of the ones I use are not in cans. If they made one for my Mustang (that I could find), I would probably use it.
I also have an E46 I have a 330i ZHP
Looks like the Hengst filters are the ones that get rebranded as GM filters (white can with blue GM logo). They have the same hole placement and grooves in the can.
I've used Mann many times. Excellent choice.
I use a Mahle fuel filter for my old W123 diesel, works great and will replace it with another.
Get your tig welder, grinder and paint out, and return them to the store lol. Great vids Boss
I have the T1N 5 cylinder Sprinter-MB and have used the Hengst brand oil filter element but BUT the Hengst has a white larger o ring that will not give enough resistance as compared to MB's
black o ring and the white Hengst, being too soft, will allow you to over torque the bell and crush the filter element (white plastic cage inner barrel) and then the filter will not perform and crap up your fresh oil in 4-6K miles. Vincent Rolfe has a youtube vid on this Hengst problem.
So I continue with the Hengst but use some older black MB large o rings and that works OK. Will look into the Mann filters. Used to use those on my 180D.
Peugeot gas motors years ago used a Purflux filter and those were super quality compared to other brands.
Mann oil filters are my go to.. I have used hengst before, will never buy fram again because i find them cheaply made here in the UK you can't get the more expensive fram's so I just won't buy them cheap flimsy things.
I trust mann filters very good quality we use in uk most are cartridges not can type you can see the quality OE fitment on GM products
My german V8's use cartridges. I just buy a case of whichever is on sale. Hengst or MANN
MANN is great with all their filters. Thanks for the video.
Keep these videos coming.
I use the Mann 950/4 on my 1.8 turbo Volkswagen. Mainly because my car requires a 2.5 bar bypass valve. And an aftermarket filter generally has a .7-1.0 bar bypass. The Mann is oem for my car.
Bullshit
These are the filters we always used on mercedes vehicles. After several years after they changed to 12,000 mile changes they changed the filters due to collapsing filters. After that I never saw any issues. The real problem was that folks dont read the owners manual. It says 12,000 miles or once a year. Folks never read the once a year part. Or chose to ignore it. Anyway, if a car was a regular in my shop we took care of it properly. No such thing as lifetime anything or 100,000 mile anything. Both filters are made to do what was required of them. I do not remember any filter caused issues except were folks didnt change their oil.
Mahle filter system it looks like on the black 1 also used by denso.
I call BS on this, 2 different oil filters not a good apples to apples comparison as these filters are for different engine applications, if you were using the same filters for the same engine I feel that it would be a fair comparison.
You ain't got to watch anything that you don't like and you don't have to run your mouth if you don't like what you're saying and just simple as that and then I can make sure you cant ever comment here if you want to be rude
Or you can tone it down and then possibly need my help one day since I have access to everything at the dealer and I can get it for you...you make that choice...next time you'll be gone
Hengst is made in Germany the only filter I use on my VW
Maybe some, but certainly not all. I interviewed for a job at Hengst in Columbia, SC (technically in Camden) once. I got a tour of the plant, and it seemed like a decent tool maker job, but it's on the opposite side of Columbia from me, and probably a 45-50 drive one way, which I didn't feel like doing. It was a decent size facility, and they looked like they were pushing out a lot of oil filters. You can Google search "Hengst Camden South Carolina" if you'd like proof of what I'm saying.
I use Mann in my ‘89 Volvo. Supposedly, they have an anti drain back valve.
I buy them from IPD Volvo, online.
Good comparison, thank you :)
Both are absolutely high quality filters “Made in Germany“.
I have a 1971 VW Bug. It does not have an oil filter. Just a sump and screen. I clean the screen with kerosene or gasoline and then light a match to dry it. Do not try this at home. Then I thread on a Mann OEM spin-on filter from my Jetta.
In Europe we have internetshops and asking for your car, type, year, engine... after they show up with recommended filters.
So ive seen you are doing Ford?! But the funny thing is, if I type some Ford, those sites are showing up mostly with Fram filters and I have a Honda and then the recommended filters are Bosch and Mann.
Great video, like always, just out of curiosity, do you think the thread count could be related to how many threads are on the vehicle? I've noticed that some of the filters are different sizes so I assume they are for different applications. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Again, great videos, and keep up the good work.
GERMAN FILTER BATTLE...👍
I'd have to say go with Hengst filters lol
congrats on 26k
Tyvm
If I want A high quality filter in EU there is only 2 manufactures that have my trust 100% Mann or Mahle/Knecht (same manufacture)
My neighbor is an engineer for mann at their long Beach location
He repairs cargo ship engines
4 stories tall tells me how they climb in through intake valves to do cylinder repairs 🤯
He brought a turbo home one time for what he calls a small generator the truck was slammed thing was massive
turbo wheel was bigger than my head 🤯🤘👌
Omg 😲
Interesting I've never even heard of that brand... where is it sold around you?
Weird that the s21 ultra is having camera overheating problems. I’ve only experienced it with recording 4k60 and 8k giving time limits on how much I could record.
I'd stick to 1080p tbh. 4k is gimmicky unless you zoom all the way out when you record in that res.
I bet you are looking at once a year oil changes with these filters
Not i personally
Awesome 👍
If anyone used a NAPA oil filter… MANN makes it 🤭 lol I do used cars at Honda and realized that their filters are stamped by MANN
Wix Makes napas filters not mann
We use the ones over the counter through commercial, not on retail. Not sure if they are different but it was something I had noticed when doing oil changes on anything that isn’t Honda
So man filters have like a top ring that wraps around and locks inside the holes wix filters don't have that
@@FordBossMe well I got news for you. I just got a oil filter from napa for my Chevy, 1042 number and it's got a Mann+hummel sticker on the bottom left corner. I've been told mann makes some wix filters and it could be a case of double rebranding or who knows who makes what. All I do know is my napa gold filter says mann on it and I'm not complaining about the rebranding. Mann is some top notch stuff.
Mann acquired wix apparently I am not sure of the exact date
Hey Rich, do you think purchasing a GO Pro might work better for longer videos and use the phone for short videos?
Ehhhh then there is editing and all that and it just complicates things more for me. i dont have the time
@@FordBossMe I figured...Appreciate the response!!
Hengsi from Ukraine not German I used Mann decades ago on Audi in 1980’s
You can reuse that mann oring for 1 year like new
How does oil flow through that man. It looks like cardboard almost.
Hengst is the cardboard
Anti drain back valve
The Hengst filter appears to flow across, rather than through the paper. If the ends aren't secured to anything, how does it work at all? If the by-pass scheme is to push the pleats away from that cheezy seal, then it get's a fail score from me.
You're exactly correct, it cannot filter the oil, nothing to stop it from going around the filter media.
Is it possible to change W712/52 to W712/95?
Idk
cut a HASTINGS filter open next, id put em up against anybody's....American Made too.
Mann still manufactured in Germany. Hengst in Poland
Mahle, Mann and Hengst the European Standard...
Great filters high qulaity
@@FordBossMe I like my Mahle and Mann...
Mahle is usually at the top.
But once I did an air filter for a 2007 Volvo V70 and the dimensions of their air filter were completely off. I
It fit so poorly in the airbox I express ordered a Mann Filter and it fit perfectly. Am I tripping... I almost feel like they put the wrong filter in the box.
Mann filters are top quality
Xengst? LOL. It literally says "Hengst" right on the box. lol
I since have fixed it lol lol lol lol
Maybe try helping people out rather than laughing at their faults, I wouldn't expect anything different from today's generation though
Hengst is NOT german for sure. MANN is usually the bet filters and in Europe it's the one to go with.
I’m made in Ukraine lol
😮
German engineering has been crap since the fall of the Berlin wall. Yeah fine they can fancy things to start, but running is another thing.
@Space Wave
That's because West Germany was burdened with paying to help the commie east recover and integrate back into one Germany.
4 threads on a filter, not too bad.
4 threads on a spark plug, not so much. Lol