3:34 If you have a mage or Sorc with High Frigol, it leaves behind ice cubes. Throwing those with Devout is not only useful and high damage, it turns it into a potent attack in fights with just one big monster, where it usually doesn't shine.
Mirror shield literally saved me repeatedly in the unmoored world, especially against those psychotic minotaurs that stun lock you if they hit you once. I became simply protection for my sorcerers to hammer them with tornadoes
Lil tip for dragons foin, you can shoot up slopes to get higher up on cliffs than youre technically intended to. It makes some platforming/climbing sections easier. You can also cancel skydragon with a charged bolt to hold yourself in midair, basically making it a super jump
Great video. Dragoun's Foin is indeed the best MSH skill. People tend to talk themselves out of taking it as you can traverse quickly via Quick Fot. But you cannot overlook the combination of the two. I for one exclusively run Dragoun's Foin/ Skiedragoun's Feste (which i'd consider the second best skill as it can be used to animation cancel)/ Wild Furie/ and Ravinour's Hond. Also a tip for controller/non macro users.. you can very quickly get into the spinny normal attack after using a skill with an animation. Like say you use Dragoun's Foin, as soon as you hit the buttons for the skill, start mashing light attack. After the skill hits, you'll instantly go into the spinny attack.
Fun fact about Dragouns Foin: You can go up slopes and it allows to get to areas that might unreachable without a Springboard Fighter or Levitate Mage/Sorc. I managed to use to get out of a an almost vertical cliff and then open a door blocked by a gate by dashing from a rock at the same height. This ability will probably be very good for speed running since it practically can break the game.
“Unto Heven is literally useless against big enemies.” I thought so as well…until I learned to aim. Even when uou have no enemy to throw you still yeet a ball of energy skyward..if you can aim that ball into a large enemies chest/face you will stagger the fuck out of them (turns out balls of energy with enough force to send an enemy 1000 miles away..kinda fuckin hurt when they hit something) It doesn’t make it MUCH better, but it is still something to keep in mind if you run the skill.
One thing to mention about MSH is how insane you can become if you use the Redouted Bolt all the time, the fact that you get a critical hit on smaller enemies after they are hit for about 2-3 seconds is op early game. Sums up my fighting style early game whenever i met packs of enemies. Just bolt, teleport and critical hit. And repeat.
I like the concept of mystic spearhand. The only thing that is taking me a while to get used to when i do mystic spearhand is trying to use the teleport.
Its kind of tricky because you don't do anything like that for other classes. Basically you want to hold RB as much as possible to keep that stun charged for every enemy. Which gets you used to the teleport as well. Fun to get down since you can get anywhere in a second.
The mirror shield is...dumb. Definitely strong, but also boring. I wish it either A) gave 50% damage reduction or B) had a much shorter time but also activated instantly so that there was more skill involved (kind of like a magic parry). As it stands its so tempting to bring it, but if you do it's basically like a God Mode cheat. On another note I REALLY wish that they gave the MS more magic options like the Mystic Knight from 1. At least the elemental buffs would make sense to give it more of magick hybrid feel.
This is only the case if you're constantly spamming the ability. Which at that point is a you/skill issue, not a gameplay issue. Boss fights in this game can last anywhere from 3-12min. A fully upgraded shield only lasts 8 seconds, which is literally nothing over the course of a 3-12min fight. Unless, like I said, you're spamming it over and over again. Don't blame the skill, just exercise some self control if you're going to use it. Or better yet, just don't use it at all. It's a *SINGLE PLAYER* game, no one is forcing it down your throat. But to say it needs to be nerfed for everyone because you think it's overpowered is definitely a shitty narcissistic gatekeeping take. Go back to Dark Souls. 💀
Why not lean more into its namesake by turning Mirror Shield into a counter? Might be busted, but it'd block that instance of damage upon parry activation and any damage for like .5 seconds before bursting. The regular burst would do low damage and cause light stagger like an uncharged redoubted bolt in a small area. A successful counter would turn that burst into a higher damage AOE with heavy stagger.
@@jaybro7530 I’m not sure you need to go on an overly emotional unhinged rant over a skill in a videogame. I would honestly be embarrassed of myself if I posted a comment like yours, get a grip.
Honestly one of the most fun things to do with Spearhand is to spam Wild Furie, then as soon as you're low on Stamina bust out the Stamina Drain skill to fully restock and get back to Wild Furie-ing your enemies. This is especially fun with bosses because you can pretty much cheese every single larger monster by just looping those two skills and watching their HP drain faster than you can say "they're masterworks all". MS might not be Thief levels of broken, and sadly needs to deal with one of the harder bosses to get its prime DPS skill, but MAN is it fun to use once you get everything you need.
So I'm kinda labbing up some weird tech. Telekinesis might be the highest stamana efficient DPS that MSH has. Its really hard to test. But I'll try to get footage.
I'm not sure, my favourite part about the classes in DDDA was how down to earth they were. A warrior didn't have this crazy "smash blade in the ground to make an earthquake" and wizards weren't teleporting around doing crazy melee attacks. This guy looks way too flashy, and honestly feels a bit op when you have a pawn giving you infinite stamina. Might be just that I really miss the mystic knight...
Take note though. Moment's Charge seemingly charges your bolt up to full, not the first level charge. The stun there is way stronger, but it takes an absurdly long time normally. So Moment's Charge can be good if you're running with a good healer.
What constitutes a good healer? A mage with a wasted skill slot for the heal one person skill? The fact you can charge the stun at all times, makes this skill void on its own. It is far and away the worst skill for spearhand and one of the worst in the game.
@@Raptchur What are you on about? Literally any healing. It's not as if the game is that hard. Never said anything about needing Argent. Other than Skiedragoun, Foin, and Furie, your fourth slot on Spearhand is free choice anyway. At that point it doesn't matter. If your mage runs Paean (and why not), you don't need Ravinour except for convenience. At that point you pick the silly moves for fun, meme with Speregonne for a ranged option, or... Just throw on Moment because it's the one way to get Forbeding Bolt fast enough to keep bosses frozen constantly? No one charges to max level manually because it's so stupid long you actually lose DPS normally over just spamming the previous level. But if you really just hate one dragon in particular (or a group), you could put this on just to be able to cheese it slightly faster with the max charge paralyze.
Devout offering is awesome agents flying stuff like griffins and drakes just use add's or rock or what not to yeet em at it and they go down like after 2-3 hits
I stopped using the bubble a while ago as it’s just too op and boring to win fights with and it makes you actively worse at the game without relying on it. skydragons feste is my go to skill for i frames and getting that counter timing does such sweet sweet damage.
This is only the case if you're constantly spamming the ability. Which at that point is a skill issue, not a gameplay issue. Boss fights in this game can last anywhere from 2-12min. A fully upgraded shield only lasts 8 seconds, which is literally nothing over the course of a 2-12min fight. Unless, like I said, you're spamming it over and over again. Don't blame the skill, just exercise some self control if you're going to use it lmao. 💀
Using the shield on your pawns constantly in battle made me unstoppable, this class is op especially with that shield. Clycops trys but can't hurt us while we just hit it nonstop, feels like cheating.
I feel like the spearhand skills were a first draft because of how unaligned they are with each other. Think about Unto Heaven and the passives you gain that increase drops rates and increased gold. These two effects are entirely at odds. Not only that, the spearhand feels like it was meant to take on large enemies without needing to climb, yet we have a skill that has a 5 second wind-up to take out a couple small enemies? I literally only use three of the spearhand's skills when I play it. the rest are either gimmicks or a waste of time.
It's a shame because the abilities in this game are so much better and yet we're limited to less slots to equip them in It was dumb in dd1 when they wouldn't let you equip to the A button, this is one step forward 2 steps back They so easily could've just done away with the draw/sheathe or maybe put the second shift key on either r1 or grab or smt I hope someone mods this
My hot take is that I don't like pure MS, but I like it when using warfarer. I found that it has a great moveset and some skills for crowd control but struggles against dealing good damage. I usually pair it with thief so I can teleport to a large enemy and use gut and run, however it could also work with archer / magick archer.
@@WrathofSnackPack I don't remember the names of the skills but I remember what they do: Obviously you want re-armament on an easy to access button. The first MS skill I recommend is the one where you create a small bubble around yourself and nearby non-enemies. This skill makes you less of a glass cannon by ensuring some survivability. Divine Offering (I think that's the name?) compliments the above skill by tossing enemies that aren't active away. This includes enemies knocked to the ground and enemies frozen by charged R1s. Using your charged R1 to stun groups of enemies allows you have safer lock-ons with magick archer. The skill where you teleport above an enemy works great in situations where an enemy is running towards you and it's too late to lock on. It acts as a great punish, dealing more damage than a standard duospear attack. The last skill depends on your play style. Remember that you can change skills at camps. The ricochet arrow is great for exploring caves .The healing arrow is a great support skill because it can keep your pawns in combat to draw aggro. The cruise missile arrow is great for direct damage, which the MS lacks. Skills are great and all but the main strength of combining MS and MA is how you treat combat. I personally would use the bow whenever possible for the ranged burst damage, and the duospear for close quarters situations.
Great video, but it will be very difficult to convince me the shield isn't the best skill. It's among the strongest skills in the entire game nevermind just this vocation.
Moments charge is much worse than you said. Because charging the stun normally does NOT take 10 seconds, more like a little under 4. And you can charge it while doing ANYTHING. You can even charge it while being ragdolled by enemies or doing any other attack. So if done properly, the charge tile effectively doesn't exist anyways as you're always charging it while you're doing your combos.
Well the first charge takes only a few seconds. But there is an additional more powerful stun that gets charged after 10 seconds. It is sort of a bonus stun for holding it longer. That skill reduces the time from 10 to 0 and grants the "mega" charge if you can call it that. So in theory that's nice, but still the health reduction makes it almost worthless.
@@SheenShots Alright, then common DD2 L sadly. Because nowhere does it ever explain that at all. Thanks for the info. I'm so sad, as a HUGE fan of the original back when I was a teen, I have to say DD2 is overall the worse game. And it saddens me so much to say that q.q But it has SOOOOO MANY little mistakes all over. Not design decisions, but straight up half the content being extremely undercooked and because people told them the world was too empty in the first one, they overcorrected and placed enemies EVERYWHERE so you don't even have 5 seconds of walking inbetween fights s.s Aaaanyways, no use ranting here. Have a nice day mate 🙏
Mirror shield is so comically overpowered that it will turn the class into the most boring shit ever. I recommend against it. Go for silly force jedi nonsense, way more fun and also effective.
@SheenShots wasn't a dig, the magic spearhand came from DD online. It was a great class to play and pretty OP for an mmo back then. I played DD online but it was kinda heavy gacha. There might be some videos about it still around
3:34 If you have a mage or Sorc with High Frigol, it leaves behind ice cubes.
Throwing those with Devout is not only useful and high damage, it turns it into a potent attack in fights with just one big monster, where it usually doesn't shine.
Mirror shield literally saved me repeatedly in the unmoored world, especially against those psychotic minotaurs that stun lock you if they hit you once. I became simply protection for my sorcerers to hammer them with tornadoes
Lil tip for dragons foin, you can shoot up slopes to get higher up on cliffs than youre technically intended to. It makes some platforming/climbing sections easier. You can also cancel skydragon with a charged bolt to hold yourself in midair, basically making it a super jump
Some crazy good tips, wish I knew this earlier when I was playing MS. Sadly I can’t get off Warfarer anymore because of drip.
@@CMiY0 😂😂
Great video. Dragoun's Foin is indeed the best MSH skill. People tend to talk themselves out of taking it as you can traverse quickly via Quick Fot. But you cannot overlook the combination of the two.
I for one exclusively run Dragoun's Foin/ Skiedragoun's Feste (which i'd consider the second best skill as it can be used to animation cancel)/ Wild Furie/ and Ravinour's Hond.
Also a tip for controller/non macro users.. you can very quickly get into the spinny normal attack after using a skill with an animation. Like say you use Dragoun's Foin, as soon as you hit the buttons for the skill, start mashing light attack. After the skill hits, you'll instantly go into the spinny attack.
Excited for more dd2 content
Fun fact about Dragouns Foin: You can go up slopes and it allows to get to areas that might unreachable without a Springboard Fighter or Levitate Mage/Sorc. I managed to use to get out of a an almost vertical cliff and then open a door blocked by a gate by dashing from a rock at the same height. This ability will probably be very good for speed running since it practically can break the game.
imagine if the bubble required timing; and if you had an elemental buff active, it countered attacking enemies with a spell.
Nah, it's good as is.
Hogwarts legacy lol
@@IMclovin94I 🤣💀
So, Mystic Knight?
@@leonfrancis3418 basically lol
4:42 iam happy you showcase some of the damage then for some reason some youtuber claim spearhand doesnt do dmg
What was that he did there? I literally never play with anything but sorcerer and magic Archer
@@ayro0638 using the full wildfury (master skill) combo on a weak spot
this is a vocation done very well, even if many parts of the kit are not good for specific situations they are all very fun to use
“Unto Heven is literally useless against big enemies.”
I thought so as well…until I learned to aim. Even when uou have no enemy to throw you still yeet a ball of energy skyward..if you can aim that ball into a large enemies chest/face you will stagger the fuck out of them (turns out balls of energy with enough force to send an enemy 1000 miles away..kinda fuckin hurt when they hit something)
It doesn’t make it MUCH better, but it is still something to keep in mind if you run the skill.
One thing to mention about MSH is how insane you can become if you use the Redouted Bolt all the time, the fact that you get a critical hit on smaller enemies after they are hit for about 2-3 seconds is op early game. Sums up my fighting style early game whenever i met packs of enemies. Just bolt, teleport and critical hit. And repeat.
I like the concept of mystic spearhand. The only thing that is taking me a while to get used to when i do mystic spearhand is trying to use the teleport.
Its kind of tricky because you don't do anything like that for other classes. Basically you want to hold RB as much as possible to keep that stun charged for every enemy. Which gets you used to the teleport as well. Fun to get down since you can get anywhere in a second.
For sure, I was thinking the same thing. That's probably why they consider it an advanced class haha. I'll definitely give it a shot!
The mirror shield is...dumb. Definitely strong, but also boring. I wish it either A) gave 50% damage reduction or B) had a much shorter time but also activated instantly so that there was more skill involved (kind of like a magic parry). As it stands its so tempting to bring it, but if you do it's basically like a God Mode cheat.
On another note I REALLY wish that they gave the MS more magic options like the Mystic Knight from 1. At least the elemental buffs would make sense to give it more of magick hybrid feel.
This is only the case if you're constantly spamming the ability. Which at that point is a you/skill issue, not a gameplay issue. Boss fights in this game can last anywhere from 3-12min. A fully upgraded shield only lasts 8 seconds, which is literally nothing over the course of a 3-12min fight. Unless, like I said, you're spamming it over and over again. Don't blame the skill, just exercise some self control if you're going to use it. Or better yet, just don't use it at all. It's a *SINGLE PLAYER* game, no one is forcing it down your throat. But to say it needs to be nerfed for everyone because you think it's overpowered is definitely a shitty narcissistic gatekeeping take. Go back to Dark Souls. 💀
Why not lean more into its namesake by turning Mirror Shield into a counter? Might be busted, but it'd block that instance of damage upon parry activation and any damage for like .5 seconds before bursting.
The regular burst would do low damage and cause light stagger like an uncharged redoubted bolt in a small area. A successful counter would turn that burst into a higher damage AOE with heavy stagger.
@@jaybro7530 I’m not sure you need to go on an overly emotional unhinged rant over a skill in a videogame. I would honestly be embarrassed of myself if I posted a comment like yours, get a grip.
Honestly one of the most fun things to do with Spearhand is to spam Wild Furie, then as soon as you're low on Stamina bust out the Stamina Drain skill to fully restock and get back to Wild Furie-ing your enemies. This is especially fun with bosses because you can pretty much cheese every single larger monster by just looping those two skills and watching their HP drain faster than you can say "they're masterworks all".
MS might not be Thief levels of broken, and sadly needs to deal with one of the harder bosses to get its prime DPS skill, but MAN is it fun to use once you get everything you need.
best vocation in the game in my opinion
at least the most fun to play
Most fun. The most op is magic archer
Devout Offringe can catch Ogres that are mid-jumping and usually just makes them faceplant, it's pretty hilarious.
your stun can take care of flying enemies
Full charged stun then jump button to tele next
Hittin beasts' ballz 35 times per second seems satisfying for sure
Sheen, what vocation will you be showcasing next?
So I'm kinda labbing up some weird tech. Telekinesis might be the highest stamana efficient DPS that MSH has. Its really hard to test. But I'll try to get footage.
I'm not sure, my favourite part about the classes in DDDA was how down to earth they were. A warrior didn't have this crazy "smash blade in the ground to make an earthquake" and wizards weren't teleporting around doing crazy melee attacks. This guy looks way too flashy, and honestly feels a bit op when you have a pawn giving you infinite stamina. Might be just that I really miss the mystic knight...
Take note though. Moment's Charge seemingly charges your bolt up to full, not the first level charge. The stun there is way stronger, but it takes an absurdly long time normally. So Moment's Charge can be good if you're running with a good healer.
What constitutes a good healer? A mage with a wasted skill slot for the heal one person skill? The fact you can charge the stun at all times, makes this skill void on its own. It is far and away the worst skill for spearhand and one of the worst in the game.
@@Raptchur What are you on about? Literally any healing. It's not as if the game is that hard. Never said anything about needing Argent.
Other than Skiedragoun, Foin, and Furie, your fourth slot on Spearhand is free choice anyway. At that point it doesn't matter. If your mage runs Paean (and why not), you don't need Ravinour except for convenience. At that point you pick the silly moves for fun, meme with Speregonne for a ranged option, or... Just throw on Moment because it's the one way to get Forbeding Bolt fast enough to keep bosses frozen constantly? No one charges to max level manually because it's so stupid long you actually lose DPS normally over just spamming the previous level. But if you really just hate one dragon in particular (or a group), you could put this on just to be able to cheese it slightly faster with the max charge paralyze.
Devout offering is awesome agents flying stuff like griffins and drakes just use add's or rock or what not to yeet em at it and they go down like after 2-3 hits
Fantastic guide!
I have been hoping to see your thoughts on Warrior in DD2
I stopped using the bubble a while ago as it’s just too op and boring to win fights with and it makes you actively worse at the game without relying on it. skydragons feste is my go to skill for i frames and getting that counter timing does such sweet sweet damage.
This is only the case if you're constantly spamming the ability. Which at that point is a skill issue, not a gameplay issue. Boss fights in this game can last anywhere from 2-12min. A fully upgraded shield only lasts 8 seconds, which is literally nothing over the course of a 2-12min fight. Unless, like I said, you're spamming it over and over again. Don't blame the skill, just exercise some self control if you're going to use it lmao. 💀
"just exercise some self control if you're going to use it lmao" bro literally unequipped it because its boring and ur flaming
@@panad8484 Congratulations on contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation. Your Mom must be so proud. 🤡💀
@@jaybro7530 what did you contribute fella
@@panad8484 More than you, move along bozo.
Using the shield on your pawns constantly in battle made me unstoppable, this class is op especially with that shield. Clycops trys but can't hurt us while we just hit it nonstop, feels like cheating.
I feel like the spearhand skills were a first draft because of how unaligned they are with each other. Think about Unto Heaven and the passives you gain that increase drops rates and increased gold. These two effects are entirely at odds. Not only that, the spearhand feels like it was meant to take on large enemies without needing to climb, yet we have a skill that has a 5 second wind-up to take out a couple small enemies? I literally only use three of the spearhand's skills when I play it. the rest are either gimmicks or a waste of time.
It's a shame because the abilities in this game are so much better and yet we're limited to less slots to equip them in
It was dumb in dd1 when they wouldn't let you equip to the A button, this is one step forward 2 steps back
They so easily could've just done away with the draw/sheathe or maybe put the second shift key on either r1 or grab or smt
I hope someone mods this
Nvm found it
My hot take is that I don't like pure MS, but I like it when using warfarer. I found that it has a great moveset and some skills for crowd control but struggles against dealing good damage. I usually pair it with thief so I can teleport to a large enemy and use gut and run, however it could also work with archer / magick archer.
Which MS skills with MA do you think would work? I’m tryna do a build similar.
@@WrathofSnackPack I don't remember the names of the skills but I remember what they do:
Obviously you want re-armament on an easy to access button.
The first MS skill I recommend is the one where you create a small bubble around yourself and nearby non-enemies. This skill makes you less of a glass cannon by ensuring some survivability.
Divine Offering (I think that's the name?) compliments the above skill by tossing enemies that aren't active away. This includes enemies knocked to the ground and enemies frozen by charged R1s. Using your charged R1 to stun groups of enemies allows you have safer lock-ons with magick archer.
The skill where you teleport above an enemy works great in situations where an enemy is running towards you and it's too late to lock on. It acts as a great punish, dealing more damage than a standard duospear attack.
The last skill depends on your play style. Remember that you can change skills at camps. The ricochet arrow is great for exploring caves .The healing arrow is a great support skill because it can keep your pawns in combat to draw aggro. The cruise missile arrow is great for direct damage, which the MS lacks.
Skills are great and all but the main strength of combining MS and MA is how you treat combat. I personally would use the bow whenever possible for the ranged burst damage, and the duospear for close quarters situations.
@@_ghostly_ ah yeah I’ll have to take a look at what would fit for me, I appreciate you taking the time to reply 🙏🏽
@@WrathofSnackPack no problem mate, I have way too much spare time on my hands so I might as well use it helping someone out online
I like Dragons Dogma with less anime, but the spear is cool.
Great video, but it will be very difficult to convince me the shield isn't the best skill. It's among the strongest skills in the entire game nevermind just this vocation.
Thanks for the vids. DD2 is a great white noise for sleeping
Mystic spearhand was the class i thought id use in game use magic archer. Just dont enjoy the class due to low dps
I like to combine the stun teleport with the feste counter to reach higher on bigger monsters
Moments charge is much worse than you said. Because charging the stun normally does NOT take 10 seconds, more like a little under 4.
And you can charge it while doing ANYTHING. You can even charge it while being ragdolled by enemies or doing any other attack.
So if done properly, the charge tile effectively doesn't exist anyways as you're always charging it while you're doing your combos.
Well the first charge takes only a few seconds. But there is an additional more powerful stun that gets charged after 10 seconds. It is sort of a bonus stun for holding it longer. That skill reduces the time from 10 to 0 and grants the "mega" charge if you can call it that. So in theory that's nice, but still the health reduction makes it almost worthless.
@@SheenShots
Alright, then common DD2 L sadly.
Because nowhere does it ever explain that at all. Thanks for the info.
I'm so sad, as a HUGE fan of the original back when I was a teen, I have to say DD2 is overall the worse game. And it saddens me so much to say that q.q
But it has SOOOOO MANY little mistakes all over. Not design decisions, but straight up half the content being extremely undercooked and because people told them the world was too empty in the first one, they overcorrected and placed enemies EVERYWHERE so you don't even have 5 seconds of walking inbetween fights s.s
Aaaanyways, no use ranting here.
Have a nice day mate 🙏
Devout Offering S++. I don’t care. I killed a dragon with about 8 deer. 😂
Mirror shield is so comically overpowered that it will turn the class into the most boring shit ever. I recommend against it. Go for silly force jedi nonsense, way more fun and also effective.
unto heven is clearly the best spearhand skill
Obviously you never played DD online 😅
Most people didn't. And not sure how that is relevant.
@SheenShots wasn't a dig, the magic spearhand came from DD online. It was a great class to play and pretty OP for an mmo back then. I played DD online but it was kinda heavy gacha. There might be some videos about it still around