Why did they make it? A look at the Sainsmart Genmitsu 4040 Reno CNC machine
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- A candid view on the latest CNC machine from Sainsmart, their Genmitsu 4040 Reno. A belt driven CNC machine for $450.
Sainsmart 4040 Reno
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00:00 Introduction
01:20 Closer look at the machine
05:20 Who is this machine for?
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Too bad about this, as I don't use that platform and don't intend to sign up for it just to have a shot at this machine. Oh well...
This doesn’t have anything to do with this particular video but maybe you can make a video on this subject. How do you use a probe from the spoil board instead of the surface of the material using CarveCo maker and UGS
I've hesitated commenting before, because saying "thank you" is rather empty. But I really appreciate all your videos, your honesty, and just being human, like when setting up the VFD, you kept it simple... thank you.
It was genuinely a difficult video to make and I've been refreshing my updates since it went live...but I felt I had to do it. I genuinely appreciate every thank you, they are not empty 👍
I bought the reno and I think it's a pretty good machine. I'm glad it was made I was able to get a good machine at a better price.
My frustrations were not so much with the machine, but more the fact the insult to the existing customers who had been waiting a long time for certain upgrades that had been promised....but seemed to work as they have now been released 😁
I actually really appreciate the honesty here. I was kinda suspecting you were hired by sainsmart or foxalien to review their machines so I appreciate the evidence that you are a fairly unbiased source of information. Love the vids man
A lot of people do but I am 100% independent. I work closely with them, test products, feedback etc. We help each other a lot
@@JamesDeanDesignsI hope they send you a review unit of the 4040-Pro extension kit soon. I occasionally pop in to their facebook group and the last information I was given is that it will be debuting some time next month. I hope you can at least confirm/exist us in your socials that it actually exist when you actually have it in your hands
I like that Sainsmart made this one, because now you get to give one away to me :D Thank you in advance for that!
I totally agree this size is already covered by many machines, I would have preferred a bigger version of the 3030 with the same linear rails, ball screws but decent Nema 23's, not to forget the 1.5 - 2.2kw Spindle. Size wise something similar to the Nymo-Labs 5040 or 6040, even an upgraded 6050, all they need to change would be ball screws, get rid of the useless spindle and make the smaller spindle mounts optional that should cover the cost of the ball screws.
I have the 3020 V1 and need a bigger sturdier machine to make aluminium parts and the 4030 V2 is not much bigger and I don't think wheels cut the mustard, I have read lots of complaints of them wearing out quite quickly. Been waiting almost a year for something to pop up, If I decided now next week one would be announced knowing my luck.
Top Job, love all your reviews.
Great Video, Thanks
James, this is a fantastic video, I've learned so much from it. I believe the entry-level machines produced by Genmitsu are very competitive and more than capable of meeting the needs of many large-scale woodworking machine users. Just like myself, haha. It seems that the belt tensioning system on this machine is well done, and I will consider purchasing it. Thank you again for your video.
Looking at their site I see there's a 6060 & 1313 XY-Axis Extension Kit which seems like you can go big with the 4030. What isn't clear is if you get everything in that kist. The also list a hybrid table option but the description is unclear as to if you need both kits in total.
Thanks!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the video. You answered my question on what the 4040 Reno is for versus the 4040 Pro
i would love to see a accuratecy/consistency video. maybe comparison video to get a good gauge how accurate this machines cut to drawing. No videos out there at all!
Always appreciate your videos James, thanks. Have you got hold of the 4040 pro extension kit yet? I'm wondering which (if any) it was best to get, the x or y axis.
Great video. Never expected you to drop your standards to say great product. Glad i wasn't the only one shocked at belt drive.
Ive seen Sainsmart video on tightening X belt, lot of faffing to adjust wheel tension before adjusting belt tension. Can't see people doing that every time !!
Personally i think Sainsmart has too many machine variants competing & confusing against each other.
Thanks John. I hadn't seen that video but never expected them to go down a belt route 😕
This reminds me exactly of the “race to the bottom” / _Attack of the Ender3 Clones_ phase of the 3D printer market.
Multiple manufacturers making nearly identical machines and competing on lowest sticker price versus competing on quality or innovation.
Completely agree and I hope it stops. It was one things everyone making 3018s but as you say, now it's a race to the bottom
Great work James! No stopping you. I plan to inlay Maple letters (male) around a chess board play area (Walnut frame with female insets) If you have time? how about a video on how to set up on the Carveco software both V cut for both the male and female. Could be interesting. Thank you
great video, When will we be able to control these CNCrouter machines with Lightburn?
Some point this year I suspect but take into account Lightburn are competing with companies doing this for many many year. I've seen their beta testing and it looks good but is likely to be a little basic in comparison to the larger names in the industry
Hello James, I have seen on some cnc videos that they do a spindle warm up on the larger machines. Would this be recommended on the smaller cnc machines like fox alien and genmitsu.
Do you know if a vfd spindle will be good for the Prover 3030 and what is the height of the spindle for a enclosure?
Being screw driven it should be OK to handle it but the nema 17 motors are not ideal. Over height would be around 60-70cm with the Z axis all the way up depenpn how high you mount it in the holder
Hi James I'm very much interested in cnc I'm coming from a 3d printing and design background and I've got a k40D laser , I use ply with my laser but would love to use solid wood on the cnc
My question is where can I source 3mm to 10mm wood preferably 400 x 400 but at a push I can cut down my self
I got it in but I’m disappointed after the build up. The belt was said to be faster movement, is there any truth to that?
I'm so frustrated by this product. I have the 4040 pro and I've been waiting for the extension since I got it. The only reason I got it instead of the fox alien is because I didn't want a belt driven cnc. Had I know they were going to take this long I would have gone with the fox alien instead because the 4040 pro size is super limiting and I'm thinking of selling it to jump ship to the size they promised but apparently can't deliver on.
This is my point. They promised the extension kits (as there was more than one) for the first quarter...that ends in 17 days away and haven't seen any updates 😕
Hi, the extension kit for 4040-PRO will be available about the end of April. More info please follow up our newsletter.
Really wish you would have done a proper test and let us know how it actually compares to the 4040 pro/ver etc. I just got my reno all set up and with a 500w spindle and would absolutely care to see how they differ , grbl controllers the same? rigidity, value for money. etc, I got my reno for $577 CAD, and after a week spent another @200 on the spindle, That still leaves me around 7-800 under the proverxl and about 3-400 under the pro, and Right at the price range spot on for a Masuter Pro. Ive got 16mm supported linear rails I plan on adding soon to stretch the reno to 800x400. Nema 23 z axis will bve coming first though. My Y AXIS stepper makes a sort of ticking noise, is this normal?
Maybe I should have done a normal review but Sainsmart should not have released this machine ahead of things they had promised customers a year ago so I felt I had to do/say something. Just be careful upgrading your Z axis to nema 23s. That requires a new control board (or separate driver) and will also add significant weight potentially causing the X axis to skip step. Not sure about the ticking, there is usually a humming noise but not so much a ticking noise
@@JamesDeanDesigns YOURE THE M AN!!!! Thanks for this vital information. I could not get Sainsmart to give me a proper answer regarding the control board!!! THE SAINSMART SITE SAYS EXTENSIONS ETD IS 5/25!!!"!? THATS BRUTAL!!! Yes you are very right about that. Without this kit I wouldnt be able to get into CNC though, so I praise them for it. Thank you for the reply , and I look forward to seeing your future Informational projects. You've helped me out a ton thus far. Im thinking about connecting my MKSDLCS32v2.1 as a control board to see how it does in comparison. Works wonders for my Co2 laser. Id like to carve 3d projects and then shade them with my laser.
Your honesty is great but it may be just what I need (price point ) to start cnc routing and do some laser stuff that's why I wish you would have given it a full work out. Looking to hopefully winning this. Thank you Bill
I do get that and I nearly didnt make the video how I did but genuinely, me spending the usual 3-4 weeks doings multiple test on this wouldn't have made much difference to my thoughts on the machine or how they came about it. You would have just had some extra footage of it doing cuts. I dont doubt this will tick boxes for some people but this race to the bottom usually doesn't benefit the customers in the long run.
So I just got the Reno, but have yet to even run it due to waiting for new laptop. Should I just send it back and get a different model, and which one?
Next obvious step up would be the 4040 pro. I'm thinking of getting that one myself.
I think The Reno is a good choice for a CNC entry-level machine, especially for handling simple large-scale woodworking engravings, and it looks quite impressive. Additionally, they offer a variety of accessory upgrade options. The price is also quite reasonable.
@@bumbeeworking7587 Right now the 4040 pro is only $30 more than the reno.
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Great review James , you've explained it absolutely spot on . There is nothing wrong with pointing out the Good or not so Good points . Isn't that what it's all about . This machine is very similar to the foxalien masuter pro , the bridge idea is definitely interesting .... so it will be interesting to see if they will be bringing out the extension kit for it as well ......
Thanks again . keep up the good reviews ... 🫶🏻🏆🍺🍻
can i make my own designs on this router sir?
Yes, you can design your own things to be machined out. You'll need to use software like Carveco, Easel or Vectric to do this
Funny the way you blocked out foxalien, but everyone in the know, knew who you meant in that email 😂
😆 I know...probably not needed but generally speaking I try not to refrence other brands unless doing a direct comparison.
I completely agree. Why did they make it? While you can make 4040 pro somewhat useable after dumping another $500 USD into it - this thing looks hopeless. I wouldn't pay more than $299 for it.
That's my main peeve with all these chinese 3d printer manufacturers: flooding the market with redundant models that very often have only minor changes. That's why I like bambu's printers. There's only a few models in clearly defined tiers.
Ewww belt drive...
Thanks for your help. I’ll follow your instagram account. I’ll be sending the Reno back asap but still would love to win the free one. The money I save I could get all the upgrades or the Pro. Thanks again