I'm so brand new at CNC that I haven't even finished cleaning up and reassembling the second-hand CNC I'm borrowing… this channel is proving invaluable. Thanks!
Setting up for Z-Probing I was facing my machine, not the control board. I accidently plugged the probe into the 5v slot. The bit messed up my probe ^^ After correction everythng went fine. I already watched a bunch of your 3018 playlist but now, when I got my machine, I'm rewatching it to set everything up. Thanks for your top videos and happy easter!
Wow! I just purchased the CAMXTOOL CNC GRBL, 2.8” Touchscreen LCD, Offline Controller which allows you to add user command buttons, and your video was so super helpful. Thanks a million.
Concise and to the point (z0 point). ;-). Hey - one word of caution that folks like me who continue to use the broken imperial measurement system - In the “Probe Module” Settings tab, setting Units to Millimeters does *NOT* apply the “Probe Module” Z tab. For whatever reason I used metric to measure probe thickness, 12.3mm in my case. The “Jog Controller” was set to Inches, however. Upon issuing “Return to Zero” after zero’ing the probe, the machine took my 12.3mm input as inches and, well, of course the bit drove down into the bed. Ooops. I suppose this is obvious to most, but thought it might be worth calling out. Note to self : use metric in every setting to avoid such accidents.
Thanks I was stuck couldn’t get the z probe to work at all , after following this I got it to work and the first test was super accurate well done mate keep it up 👍🏻
James, a very helpful couple of videos on assembly and first cut. I am trying to decide on a machine and your posts have me sold on the Prover 4030. It is just the right size for what I want to do and it looks easy enough to assemble and get up and running. I will be watching all of these a few more times as I move forward. A great help.
Thanks James. Bought a probe but not tried it yet. Had a fire on my control board and been waiting for a replacement although still working on 12 volts. After several " fob offs " from the supplier, they've vanished so I bought one myself. Replaced the board today and upgraded the spindle as well. All running and ready to try the probe tomorrow. I didn't know it had the probe feature. I thought I'd have to write some code to run it so looking forward to giving it a go. Very useful info. Jim
Some suppliers are terrible with these things. I ended up taking mine through a PayPal dispute in the end as they refused to help me. Hope all goes well 👍
@@JamesDeanDesigns Yeah. Just write it off and carry on with life. New board seems good although different connectors for limit switches etc. But for about £25 ish I'm delighted. Upgraded the power supply too. I see some people say to step the motor speeds up in the program to stop it overloading the board. Did you find that with yours?
@@flypic1098 Some board have been known to blow, typically woodpecker boards to my knowledge but there doesn't seem to be a particular pattern. It basically because the input power spike when the spindle fires up initially. I've never needed to use the code but some do. Alternatively you can get something called an inrush limiter which eases that initial spike
Setting probe works great thanks James. Used the step up speeds in increments to reach top speed as well. Rather surprised by the spindle noise. It has the noise suppression on it and makes a loud screeching noise even at low speeds. If I stop the spindle with my hands it still make the noise. I know the noise they mean is interference with the other electronics but confused why it makes such a racket.
Good contact with the wires is essential- otherwise the the bit will be driven into the plate; bad things can happen. A sprung plate with a max probe distance less than the movement gives you insurance. Best to measure the thickness with a micrometer- Vernier calipers are a bit approximate. Thanks for the setting up process- made it quick and easy.
Definately and not just the wires. I had a tiny bit of MDF on the end of my bit and it failed to make the connection. Also why the travel distance should be kept as low as you can possibly cope with.
Great video, I think showing how you change the tool when doing a job would of been a god thing to show. Also need to find out how to set up the probe so it sits on the bed and not the work surface
You can add a second probe line in Candle to do the two speed measurement as you did with UGS. I've made a three-way corner probe. It uses a variable in the first line for the tool diameter. #100 = [3.125/2]; G91G21; G38.2X-30F50; G92 X#100; G91; G0 X5; G91G21; G38.2Y-30F50; G92 Y#100; G91; G0 Y5; G91G21; G38.2Z-30F50; G92 Z7.85; G91; G0 Z2.15; M30
BTW, for future reference, assuming your #100 variable is for 1/8" bit. They are 3.175mm you might find you're off on X Y by A little. Not a lot in great scheme of things,
Thanks man! Just sent you a fiver, subscribed and liked for the instructions. Getting my 3018 in two days. I'm sure I'll be back watching more videos and getting more instructions!
UGS platform edition allows you to name your user command buttons rather than just Button 1, Button 2 etc. Best part you can move & resize the panels around to optimal positions, see XYZ coordinates complete without having to scroll!
Thanks. Incidentally, double clicking any of the panel tabs will enlarge that panel to full screen. Double tap again and it shrinks back to its original size.
thanks heaps u r wot makes life easy with cnc3018 . had no idear how to set up cnc till watching video and i have run much bigger cnc in kitchen fab . dan
Great Video James🎉. Just got one 3018 Pro a month earlier and it works well with smaller PCBs, but I'm facing issues with some bigger designs where the PCB seem to be not perfectly flat. Can you please suggest some solution to this.
Cool. I was hoping to find this functionality and see that the CNC feeds a measurement back to the PC. I was dreading writing them all down. Thanks, Dean. Just sane :^) Saint
Connect the two probe wires to the two connector pins on the probe port which should be labelled as either probe or A5. It doesn't matter which wire goes to which pin.
For my original CNC engraver, I made a Z-probe from a broken end mill with a PCB pushbutton glued to the end of it. I'd mount it in the spindle and use it to map the surface of the material to be machined as it was pretty much guaranteed to not be flat or level (not just zero the Z-axis at a single point). I'd then swap in the actual endmill or engraving bit and zero it with paper or electrical contact. I was hoping to find a Z-probe of this nature for the 3018 which could be mounted to the spindle carriage and fold down for use - do these exist?
You have some of the best and well informed videos that I've seen on RUclips and we thank you. I do have a problem with LASERGRBL that I hope you can help me with. I have a 3018 Pro that I am unable to speed up the feed on. When I use the machine for routing, it scoots right along appropriately but in Lasergerbl it is extremely slow. My S min is 9% and my S Max is at 11% and it still burns my plywood and makes a charred mess. I did make sure that my $ setting was set at 1000 but no change and the feed rate is at 2000 MM/min. Ideas?
Interesting. I understood it is also possible to build a map of your workpiece that should cater for small variations in the zero surface: e.g. you are milling a pcb but your stock is ever so slightly bend
Thanks for your help but i must be doing something wrong in UGS after disconnecting the probe and return to Zero lights up then pressed the bit returns to where the top of probe is not the top of the material what am I doing wrong?
I don't know how to go from my board levelling drawing in Ventric to applying the Z-Probe and then activating the machine to do the job. Am I missing those aspects in your presentation? Thanks
Hi James, I successfully touched the z axis, but in the second step I pressed G90 G0 X0 Y0 G90 G0 Z0 The machine dropped continuously and hit the wood.I need your help,Thanks James!
Great video - thanks. Just got a 3018 Prover and have been using your and Techydiy's videos to get started with it. Strange thing happened to me, though, after running the probe setup in UGS. The probe zeroing seemed to run perfectly, but after removing the probe and selecting "Return to Zero", the machine drove the bit down into the test piece of wood until it finally faulted and stopped. Happened so fast, I couldn't stop it. Only thing I can figure is that the jogging commands section was set to "inches" while the probe zeroing program was set to "millimeters" and the program didn't convert the z axis zero value? I ran it again after resetting the jogging commands to "millimeters" and it seemed to work correctly (although I was too afraid to try the "Return to Zero" command again) - I jogged the z-axis manually until it indicated 0 on the display and it was very close to the surface of the wood. I haven't calibrated the z-axis yet, so I'm hoping that takes care of the slight error I'm now seeing. Assuming that was the issue, just wanted to warn others about this potential problem.
I was facing similar issue to where when I probe z axis and zero out the z axis and run a job the job it starts few millimeters above the material, I have been told that zero z axis button is only used for manual probing like how they use piece of paper as a gauge, when you use an actual probe you just move the x and y axis to where u want on material (note this is done manually) and zero it out then hit the probe button, it probes the material then you just start the job and it cuts at correct height.
So I can buy the wires n crocodile clips which is fine. Where u have electrical tape at ends, how to connect to board? Do I just put which ever end on the z probe pins on board n use overhang of tape to hold it on. Ty for everything
Hi great videos haven't got my CNC yet but would like to build an enclosure for it I like yours have you got some plans for it so I can build it at the men sheds group where I go please
Yes I have, it can be found here with the plans as well. There is also a second video with some of the upgrades I made to it later on. ruclips.net/video/lTKdhGt8r5k/видео.html
hi james great video,i have a puzzle i am hoping you will answear for me ? i converted my 3018 pro to a 3040,my question is when getting limite switches do i order for the 3018 or the 3040,thank you
The limit switches should essentially be the same. The only thing I can think would be different is the length of the cables so you may need to buy the ones for a 3040
Hi James wondering if you could help, I've set up my probe commands but after the spindle comes down and touches the plate the spindle returns up to far and and hits my limit switch 🤔
If you are using the code I provided, then the last Z command is Z5 which means it should retract 5mm. Make sure yours says 5 and not something else. If you still have the issue then perhaps try a different program as a test
@@JamesDeanDesigns Hi James I managed to sort it yesterday 😄 it was my fault I forgot the M after the 5mm Z retraction, so I had Z530 instead of Z5M30 I got there in the end, thanks for your videos though 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
James, is there a way to turn the spindle on and off manually with having to type a code? I need to pause my cut some times when cutting foam due to waste foam getting wrapped on my bit. Need to be able to turn it off to clean the bit. Thanks
If you are engraving onto aluminum (aluminium?) can you just hold one wire to the project and clamp the other to the bit and run the probe command that way?
Hi, I finally have a computer to say hello. I have seen a CNC machine that I want you to look at because I'm a beginner still trying to figure out everything. Anyway, I will find the name of this machine and let you know the name of it. The construction of the machine is unbelievable. No, it's not a 3018 like my machine. I did actually get one of the better 3018 though. I will ask a lot of questions. And I hope to give good suggestions back. I saw your Z probe spot when I first got my machine. Didn't understand how to what to. finally found it and understand it a little better. Still can't get it to home thought. Machine runs amuck. Hoping I can use Z-probe to make it do right.
I just picked up a 3018 pro but when I try to zero my Z (UGS) with the probe that came with my machine, The Z comes down , touches the probe then returns back up to the limit switch at Z+. I have set the retract height to 1 from 5 and no change. Is there a setting I'm missing in UGS or machine settings? I have set the home limit switches to -X, -Y-and+ Z during setup in UGS. It homes correctly with no issues and moves in the correct directions when jogging
This isn't a question about the z-probe, but looking at your screen of UGS, I see a tab labeled "Common Actions". I don't see that on my system and I think it would be handy. I just downloaded UGS and mine says Version 2.0.9-SNAPSHOT. Am I missing something? I've watched a lot of your videos on using the Sainsmart 3018-Pro and subscribed.
There are different version of UGS as its open source software but the common actions tab can be turned on from one of the top menus like Windows I believe
Hi James, thanks for your previous assistance, very helpful. Yet again I have a slight issue with UGS. On startup the programme display will not open as per your video, it opens in full screen mode and it does for each of the sub windows i.e visualizer, jog controller etc etc...Do you know if there is a default display setting somewhere so that I can view several plugins (I think that's what their called) on one screen at the same time. I have even re-installed UGS a couple of times all to no avail. Thanks again John.
Not quiet sure what's happening but I've done this 100 times and when I click on user button 1 it doesn't go the top of the work piece I'm stumped 🤷♂️
I am guessing you are using candle? One thing I forgot to mention is that if you home your machine first then it doesn't work correctly :( By default 3018pro's dont have limit switches which is why I never actually mentioned it and only later remembered
bonjour voila j ai un petit problème avec mon z probe. j arrive pas a le mettre a zéro et quand je lance le fraisage la broche monte au lieu de descendre. j ai une Genmitsu Proverxl 4030 et j utilise Grbl Cabdle 1.1.7 merci de ton aide
Not sure what I've done but I can't figure out how to fix the issue. I've followed the instructions for ugs to set z height. Start the job. And it starts 10mm over the wood. What am I doing wrong ???
@matthewbaker2573 when you click return to zero. Does it go 10mm above the material or touch the top of the material. If its 10mm above then you have set the thickness wrong
@JamesDeanDesigns it goes to the top of the material. I use the paper trick first. Then raise up the z to do a probe run. My probe sensor is 19.25mm, input that and run, does fine. Start the job - and the machine (gen 6050) starts 10mm above. Really mind boggling 😵💫
Hi, thank you for the high quality and clear videos you being posting, i have an issue with the sainsmart 3018pro ver on probe setup, every time i do the procedures i watched on this video i never get the height of the prob i have, like i i tell the UGS or GRBL to raise 20mm seems like it goes half way, any ideia how to solve, thank you in advanced
Hi. Typically if its only travelling half the distance your steps might be out. These are your 100, 101 and 102 settings. If they are showing as 800 you may need to make them 1600.
Recently I purchased a cnc a ttc450 it comes with a z probe, I have tried to use it but I'm having issues, i set the z probe command on the cnc but once I set it the machine starts the work 20mm over the material, what can be the issue in my case, I will really appreciate it
thank you sir excellent video . I have one problem, when I am initiating the probe, while z is coming down to the probe it is giving me alarm error 9 and z access coming down too slow ! any help on this issue please deeply appreciated
Usually I think that means your bit is not close enough to the probe. It will only travel so far before it triggers the alarm thinking it cant find anything
HELP! Using fusion 360 I designed a spacer I need out of a 6mm sheet of polycarbonate. The model has the origin at the bottom of the sheet. When I see the zero in Grbl, my 3018 treats the top of the piece as the bottom and never touches it. I used a z probe and entered the height as 6mm thicker than it is and that worked. How do I get the program to account for the thickness of the workpiece? Love your channel. Very helpful.
I hate not being able to help but I'm no good in fusion 360. I'm really sorry. If you're on Facebook, join one of the user groups for something Sainsmart and there will be plenty of people who can help
The clip where I'm talking about making your own, you'll see the ends of the wires have black electrical tape around them, thats how they were held on. Not the best option but it worked
@@ianknight2053 basically stripped the wire, double it over then wrapped a little tape around each one but not tight. You could put the end of a cocktail stick in there to help keep the gap. Then slid them onto the pins and just pinched then as best I could
I started using GSENDER software as I had a lot of problems with UGS. My cuts were mirrored due to an inverted Y axis, so I changed it in GSENDER and everything worked perfectly. I decided to try UGS and for my surprise all the coordinates of the machine got lost, like in negative position, the X0 Y0 position started in the X border, so everything is considered negative. I went back to Gsender and everything is correct, back to the center of the machine to the original position as I like to position home. Correcting firmware in Gsender is a breeze. In some video I found someone telling that UGS has negative and positive versions, is that correct? And what for would that be? Can I apply this video to produce my probe in Gsender? Thanks again.
@@JamesDeanDesigns Hey. Thanks. Well I tried a different version of Candle, and that seem to work just fine. It's connected to the right pins. Do you also always have to home again before using de Z-probe again (for like a new task)?
James can you send or post the settings that you make for the shortcut number one button as I can’t seem to get mine to work after using z-probe. Thsnls
One thing I didn't mention is that function only works if you have not homed your machine. If you have homed it, it will not work. but the code is G90 G0 X0 Y0 G90 G0 Z0
Help ! New to cnc and made a home made z probe , followed the video but when the bit touch’s the metal it disconnects my machine from PC and advice would be welcome , thank in advance Stu
Sir I using cnc 3018 my parameters configuration settings is missing. I need your help all functional parameters configuration setup. I use candle . Sir I shall be highly obliged if you kindly send me the parameters configuration cnc3018 . I hope you will send me. Thanking you
You need to make sure your collet insert is big enough to take the bit. There is usually a number stamped on the little silver insert stating what size it is. Its also sometimes easier to pop the insert out of the nut to put the bit in
I have been trying to get this z probe to work in UGS and followed these directions but I cannot get it to work at all. When I initiate the probe cycle the machine pushes down into the probe and will not stop. I have to hit the emergency stop button . I know the probe works because it works in Candle but I cannot get it to in UGS.
Sorry to hear that. the Z probe is a basic circuit and this is the first time I have heard it working in one software but failing in another. It might be there is a bug in the version of UGS you have downloaded, that is the only thing I can think of
I realize this is a 3018 pro video, but i'm inquiring about the vacuum tube you have on your 4030 in this video. Is that on Thingiverse? If so, can you post the link. I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance.
I dont think that particular design is on Thingiverse as the guy sells them on Etsy. Here is a link if your interested, I think he posts world wide tidd.ly/2Vlx7VM
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I'm so brand new at CNC that I haven't even finished cleaning up and reassembling the second-hand CNC I'm borrowing… this channel is proving invaluable. Thanks!
Glad to hear that 👍
Setting up for Z-Probing I was facing my machine, not the control board. I accidently plugged the probe into the 5v slot. The bit messed up my probe ^^ After correction everythng went fine. I already watched a bunch of your 3018 playlist but now, when I got my machine, I'm rewatching it to set everything up. Thanks for your top videos and happy easter!
Machine tune-up ---- WORKS
Built the z-probe ---- WORKS
Thanks for making both of them. Next project might be the box!
Excellent. Glad they helped 👍
Wow! I just purchased the CAMXTOOL CNC GRBL, 2.8” Touchscreen LCD, Offline Controller which allows you to add user command buttons, and your video was so super helpful. Thanks a million.
Glad its helped :)
Thanks!
Thank you Brian, thats very generous.Hope my videos are helping
many thanks as a beginner i have learnt so much you explain everything in a concise and easy to understand
Awesome post, actually had a broken shelf bracket laying around that looks identical, I figured "if it is good enough for James....." Works excellent.
Legendary tutorials, James! Just got one of these a few days back and your videos are gold! Such a fun machine to play with.
Glad you like them!
This was immensely helpful to get my machine up and running. Genmitsu 4040-PRO
Glad it helped :)
Concise and to the point (z0 point). ;-). Hey - one word of caution that folks like me who continue to use the broken imperial measurement system - In the “Probe Module” Settings tab, setting Units to Millimeters does *NOT* apply the “Probe Module” Z tab. For whatever reason I used metric to measure probe thickness, 12.3mm in my case. The “Jog Controller” was set to Inches, however. Upon issuing “Return to Zero” after zero’ing the probe, the machine took my 12.3mm input as inches and, well, of course the bit drove down into the bed. Ooops. I suppose this is obvious to most, but thought it might be worth calling out. Note to self : use metric in every setting to avoid such accidents.
Yes that is a bit odd. My log that as a bug on the UGS site to see if they can resolve. Glad my videos are helping though
Thanks I was stuck couldn’t get the z probe to work at all , after following this I got it to work and the first test was super accurate well done mate keep it up 👍🏻
James, a very helpful couple of videos on assembly and first cut. I am trying to decide on a machine and your posts have me sold on the Prover 4030. It is just the right size for what I want to do and it looks easy enough to assemble and get up and running. I will be watching all of these a few more times as I move forward. A great help.
Thanks John. I think I just replied on Patreon but if you need any help just let me know
Thanks James. Bought a probe but not tried it yet. Had a fire on my control board and been waiting for a replacement although still working on 12 volts. After several " fob offs " from the supplier, they've vanished so I bought one myself. Replaced the board today and upgraded the spindle as well. All running and ready to try the probe tomorrow. I didn't know it had the probe feature. I thought I'd have to write some code to run it so looking forward to giving it a go. Very useful info. Jim
Some suppliers are terrible with these things. I ended up taking mine through a PayPal dispute in the end as they refused to help me. Hope all goes well 👍
@@JamesDeanDesigns Yeah. Just write it off and carry on with life. New board seems good although different connectors for limit switches etc. But for about £25 ish I'm delighted.
Upgraded the power supply too.
I see some people say to step the motor speeds up in the program to stop it overloading the board.
Did you find that with yours?
@@flypic1098 Some board have been known to blow, typically woodpecker boards to my knowledge but there doesn't seem to be a particular pattern. It basically because the input power spike when the spindle fires up initially. I've never needed to use the code but some do. Alternatively you can get something called an inrush limiter which eases that initial spike
@@JamesDeanDesigns I'll just add a couple of lines of code when using high speeds.
Setting probe works great thanks James. Used the step up speeds in increments to reach top speed as well. Rather surprised by the spindle noise. It has the noise suppression on it and makes a loud screeching noise even at low speeds. If I stop the spindle with my hands it still make the noise. I know the noise they mean is interference with the other electronics but confused why it makes such a racket.
Thank you for this and all the other videos! I couldn't find the z-probe controls in ugs, and knew you'd have the answer.
Glad I could help!
I bought a bundle of m/f Dupont connectors on 12in wires so I can splice/solder the wire to longer length. !
Thanks for all the info James
Good contact with the wires is essential- otherwise the the bit will be driven into the plate; bad things can happen. A sprung plate with a max probe distance less than the movement gives you insurance. Best to measure the thickness with a micrometer- Vernier calipers are a bit approximate.
Thanks for the setting up process- made it quick and easy.
Definately and not just the wires. I had a tiny bit of MDF on the end of my bit and it failed to make the connection. Also why the travel distance should be kept as low as you can possibly cope with.
Great video, I think showing how you change the tool when doing a job would of been a god thing to show. Also need to find out how to set up the probe so it sits on the bed and not the work surface
Thanks for this video. All new to me but having fun. My 3020 Plus seem to be doing the job I need. PCB testing next.
Thank you, This is just what I needed now that I am using a laptop instead of the WiFi module, tossing the module in the garbage.
Your explanation is very complete and clear. Thank you
Glad it helped 👍
You can add a second probe line in Candle to do the two speed measurement as you did with UGS. I've made a three-way corner probe. It uses a variable in the first line for the tool diameter.
#100 = [3.125/2];
G91G21;
G38.2X-30F50;
G92 X#100;
G91;
G0 X5;
G91G21;
G38.2Y-30F50;
G92 Y#100;
G91;
G0 Y5;
G91G21;
G38.2Z-30F50;
G92 Z7.85;
G91;
G0 Z2.15;
M30
Great tip. thank you
BTW, for future reference, assuming your #100 variable is for 1/8" bit. They are 3.175mm you might find you're off on X Y by A little. Not a lot in great scheme of things,
@@JohnColgan. oops. Typo. Sorry
Thanks man! Just sent you a fiver, subscribed and liked for the instructions. Getting my 3018 in two days. I'm sure I'll be back watching more videos and getting more instructions!
Wow! Thank you very much 🙏 hope your setup goes smooth but if you hit any issues just let me know
Thanks James. I’m going to make my own Z probe so this video is a great help.
So glad I found your channel because you explain very clearly
Glad you enjoy it!
:-) This guy is like a 3018 online manual. Bought a zprobe, come here to watch how to set it up!
😆 I try
UGS platform edition allows you to name your user command buttons rather than just Button 1, Button 2 etc.
Best part you can move & resize the panels around to optimal positions, see XYZ coordinates complete without having to scroll!
Thanks. Incidentally, double clicking any of the panel tabs will enlarge that panel to full screen. Double tap again and it shrinks back to its original size.
thanks heaps u r wot makes life easy with cnc3018 . had no idear how to set up cnc till watching video and i have run much bigger cnc in kitchen fab . dan
Great Video James🎉. Just got one 3018 Pro a month earlier and it works well with smaller PCBs, but I'm facing issues with some bigger designs where the PCB seem to be not perfectly flat. Can you please suggest some solution to this.
Thanks James, another great video
Hope it helped 👍
Thanks, this was helpful!
Glad it helped
thank you very much , this was very helpful for me.
Cool. I was hoping to find this functionality and see that the CNC feeds a measurement back to the PC. I was dreading writing them all down. Thanks, Dean.
Just sane :^) Saint
thanks mate, it was really useful
Hey thank you for putting this up! It's super handy!
Thanks great explanation!
FYI if you use Openbuilds Control and an Openbuilds XYZ Probe, they have a Probe Wizard which takes care of it all for you.
Great video. I entered "CODE FOR CUSTOM BUTTON" manually. I had to separate the codes with a semicolon. G90 G0 X0 Y0;
G90 G0 Z0
Thanks for your comment, it's helped me out a treat. 👍
Needed that extra bit of info. Cheers
Same. Thank you so much.
Thanks James.
Paper works! (Just pulling your leg like in the FB group;).
I did realise it was a joke shortly after my response, I bit a little quick 😄
Very informative. But I did not see any mention of where tomhookup the second wire on the control board. Did I miss it?
Connect the two probe wires to the two connector pins on the probe port which should be labelled as either probe or A5. It doesn't matter which wire goes to which pin.
Thank you James for yout tutorials. did you manage to use the Z-Probe with the offline controller for the 3018 PRO? do you have any guidance. Thanks.
For my original CNC engraver, I made a Z-probe from a broken end mill with a PCB pushbutton glued to the end of it. I'd mount it in the spindle and use it to map the surface of the material to be machined as it was pretty much guaranteed to not be flat or level (not just zero the Z-axis at a single point). I'd then swap in the actual endmill or engraving bit and zero it with paper or electrical contact.
I was hoping to find a Z-probe of this nature for the 3018 which could be mounted to the spindle carriage and fold down for use - do these exist?
You have some of the best and well informed videos that I've seen on RUclips and we thank you. I do have a problem with LASERGRBL that I hope you can help me with. I have a 3018 Pro that I am unable to speed up the feed on. When I use the machine for routing, it scoots right along appropriately but in Lasergerbl it is extremely slow. My S min is 9% and my S Max is at 11% and it still burns my plywood and makes a charred mess. I did make sure that my $ setting was set at 1000 but no change and the feed rate is at 2000 MM/min. Ideas?
As well as your $30 being 1000 you need to make sure your $31 is 0. Share your GRBL settings if you can and I'll take a look.
Nice. Thankyou
Your awesome. Thank you
Thanks for detailed video. Is it possible to have multiple z probe check for PCB milling? If possible please share how? Again thanks for the video
Interesting. I understood it is also possible to build a map of your workpiece that should cater for small variations in the zero surface: e.g. you are milling a pcb but your stock is ever so slightly bend
Thats correct, you can. Its called a height map. You can do it automatically in UGS
do you have a vide on this? @@JamesDeanDesigns
@@bermchasin no. Its usually used when doing PCBs which is something I've never done
Thanks for your help but i must be doing something wrong in UGS after disconnecting the probe and return to Zero lights up then pressed the bit returns to where the top of probe is not the top of the material what am I doing wrong?
can you make a video of using the z probe for the 3018 pro plus thanks for the video and I have both cnc software you had in the video
I don't know how to go from my board levelling drawing in Ventric to applying the Z-Probe and then activating the machine to do the job. Am I missing those aspects in your presentation? Thanks
I can’t find the files used in the description.
do you have to do this test with every different thickness of wood
Thanks! Answered some questions that the manuals don't directly address.
Glad it helped 👍
Brill, Thanks.
You're welcome!
Hi James, I successfully touched the z axis, but in the second step I pressed G90 G0 X0 Y0
G90 G0 Z0 The machine dropped continuously and hit the wood.I need your help,Thanks James!
THAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS A LOT 🌹
Great video - thanks. Just got a 3018 Prover and have been using your and Techydiy's videos to get started with it. Strange thing happened to me, though, after running the probe setup in UGS. The probe zeroing seemed to run perfectly, but after removing the probe and selecting "Return to Zero", the machine drove the bit down into the test piece of wood until it finally faulted and stopped. Happened so fast, I couldn't stop it. Only thing I can figure is that the jogging commands section was set to "inches" while the probe zeroing program was set to "millimeters" and the program didn't convert the z axis zero value? I ran it again after resetting the jogging commands to "millimeters" and it seemed to work correctly (although I was too afraid to try the "Return to Zero" command again) - I jogged the z-axis manually until it indicated 0 on the display and it was very close to the surface of the wood. I haven't calibrated the z-axis yet, so I'm hoping that takes care of the slight error I'm now seeing. Assuming that was the issue, just wanted to warn others about this potential problem.
I was facing similar issue to where when I probe z axis and zero out the z axis and run a job the job it starts few millimeters above the material, I have been told that zero z axis button is only used for manual probing like how they use piece of paper as a gauge, when you use an actual probe you just move the x and y axis to where u want on material (note this is done manually) and zero it out then hit the probe button, it probes the material then you just start the job and it cuts at correct height.
So I can buy the wires n crocodile clips which is fine. Where u have electrical tape at ends, how to connect to board? Do I just put which ever end on the z probe pins on board n use overhang of tape to hold it on. Ty for everything
Are you using Tungsten Carbide 2 Flutes Ball Nose End Mills to drill the holes in the PCB?
thanks for the video. Can't quite understand what the name of the connector is. Are you calling it a V point connector?
Sorry I followed your link for the connectors and got it. What a great informative video. Thanks for the available files with code.
Are those skip-ahead time codes in metric or imperial? Thanks!
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how do you increase the speed of the leveling mine is taking over an hour just to scan a small pcb
can this be done in the older ugs?
Hi great videos haven't got my CNC yet but would like to build an enclosure for it I like yours have you got some plans for it so I can build it at the men sheds group where I go please
Yes I have, it can be found here with the plans as well. There is also a second video with some of the upgrades I made to it later on. ruclips.net/video/lTKdhGt8r5k/видео.html
When I click the custom button I'm getting an error:21 . I have a new machine Genmisu 3018 Pro
hi james great video,i have a puzzle i am hoping you will answear for me ? i converted my 3018 pro to a 3040,my question is when getting limite switches do i order for the 3018 or the 3040,thank you
The limit switches should essentially be the same. The only thing I can think would be different is the length of the cables so you may need to buy the ones for a 3040
Hi James wondering if you could help, I've set up my probe commands but after the spindle comes down and touches the plate the spindle returns up to far and and hits my limit switch 🤔
If you are using the code I provided, then the last Z command is Z5 which means it should retract 5mm. Make sure yours says 5 and not something else. If you still have the issue then perhaps try a different program as a test
@@JamesDeanDesigns Hi James I managed to sort it yesterday 😄 it was my fault I forgot the M after the 5mm Z retraction, so I had Z530 instead of Z5M30 I got there in the end, thanks for your videos though 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
James, is there a way to turn the spindle on and off manually with having to type a code? I need to pause my cut some times when cutting foam due to waste foam getting wrapped on my bit. Need to be able to turn it off to clean the bit. Thanks
Easiest option to me would be to put an inline switch or rheostat and just turn the power off to the spindle when required.
If you are engraving onto aluminum (aluminium?) can you just hold one wire to the project and clamp the other to the bit and run the probe command that way?
Hi, I finally have a computer to say hello. I have seen a CNC machine that I want you to look at because I'm a beginner still trying to figure out everything. Anyway, I will find the name of this machine and let you know the name of it. The construction of the machine is unbelievable. No, it's not a 3018 like my machine. I did actually get one of the better 3018 though. I will ask a lot of questions. And I hope to give good suggestions back.
I saw your Z probe spot when I first got my machine. Didn't understand how to what to. finally found it and understand it a little better. Still can't get it to home thought. Machine runs amuck. Hoping I can use Z-probe to make it do right.
I just picked up a 3018 pro but when I try to zero my Z (UGS) with the probe that came with my machine, The Z comes down , touches the probe then returns back up to the limit switch at Z+. I have set the retract height to 1 from 5 and no change. Is there a setting I'm missing in UGS or machine settings? I have set the home limit switches to -X, -Y-and+ Z during setup in UGS. It homes correctly with no issues and moves in the correct directions when jogging
Gday mate, my probe control button won't save after pasting in your gcode, is there a save button
Very Good
Thank you
This isn't a question about the z-probe, but looking at your screen of UGS, I see a tab labeled "Common Actions". I don't see that on my system and I think it would be handy. I just downloaded UGS and mine says Version 2.0.9-SNAPSHOT. Am I missing something?
I've watched a lot of your videos on using the Sainsmart 3018-Pro and subscribed.
There are different version of UGS as its open source software but the common actions tab can be turned on from one of the top menus like Windows I believe
Hi James, thanks for your previous assistance, very helpful. Yet again I have a slight issue with UGS. On startup the programme display will not open as per your video, it opens in full screen mode and it does for each of the sub windows i.e visualizer, jog controller etc etc...Do you know if there is a default display setting somewhere so that I can view several plugins (I think that's what their called) on one screen at the same time. I have even re-installed UGS a couple of times all to no avail. Thanks again John.
I'll check tomorrow, there might be a reset view button. But you can usually drag the different windows about to make them how you want it to look
Not quiet sure what's happening but I've done this 100 times and when I click on user button 1 it doesn't go the top of the work piece I'm stumped 🤷♂️
I am guessing you are using candle? One thing I forgot to mention is that if you home your machine first then it doesn't work correctly :( By default 3018pro's dont have limit switches which is why I never actually mentioned it and only later remembered
Christo de Beer - South Africa
If i have a crooked bed Can i do it at multipel points to make the program adjust to that crookedness?
Best method is to surface the spoilboard but I believe there is a multipoint function in UGS allowing you to essentially map the uneven areas
bonjour voila j ai un petit problème avec mon z probe. j arrive pas a le mettre a zéro et quand je lance le fraisage la broche monte au lieu de descendre. j ai une Genmitsu Proverxl 4030 et j utilise Grbl Cabdle 1.1.7
merci de ton aide
Not sure what I've done but I can't figure out how to fix the issue.
I've followed the instructions for ugs to set z height. Start the job.
And it starts 10mm over the wood.
What am I doing wrong ???
@matthewbaker2573 when you click return to zero. Does it go 10mm above the material or touch the top of the material. If its 10mm above then you have set the thickness wrong
@JamesDeanDesigns it goes to the top of the material. I use the paper trick first. Then raise up the z to do a probe run. My probe sensor is 19.25mm, input that and run, does fine. Start the job - and the machine (gen 6050) starts 10mm above.
Really mind boggling 😵💫
Hi, thank you for the high quality and clear videos you being posting, i have an issue with the sainsmart 3018pro ver on probe setup, every time i do the procedures i watched on this video i never get the height of the prob i have, like i i tell the UGS or GRBL to raise 20mm seems like it goes half way, any ideia how to solve, thank you in advanced
Hi. Typically if its only travelling half the distance your steps might be out. These are your 100, 101 and 102 settings. If they are showing as 800 you may need to make them 1600.
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thank you for the response, but im new in cnc have you any video to explain how to do it?
Thanks
Recently I purchased a cnc a ttc450 it comes with a z probe, I have tried to use it but I'm having issues, i set the z probe command on the cnc but once I set it the machine starts the work 20mm over the material, what can be the issue in my case, I will really appreciate it
thank you sir excellent video . I have one problem, when I am initiating the probe, while z is coming down to the probe it is giving me alarm error 9 and z access coming down too slow ! any help on this issue please deeply appreciated
Usually I think that means your bit is not close enough to the probe. It will only travel so far before it triggers the alarm thinking it cant find anything
HELP! Using fusion 360 I designed a spacer I need out of a 6mm sheet of polycarbonate. The model has the origin at the bottom of the sheet. When I see the zero in Grbl, my 3018 treats the top of the piece as the bottom and never touches it.
I used a z probe and entered the height as 6mm thicker than it is and that worked.
How do I get the program to account for the thickness of the workpiece?
Love your channel. Very helpful.
I hate not being able to help but I'm no good in fusion 360. I'm really sorry. If you're on Facebook, join one of the user groups for something Sainsmart and there will be plenty of people who can help
Is there a way to add an offset in ugl?
How did you connect the wires to the board before you bought the connector James? Thank you.
The clip where I'm talking about making your own, you'll see the ends of the wires have black electrical tape around them, thats how they were held on. Not the best option but it worked
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thanks James. I saw that but couldn’t quite work out how they were attached.
@@ianknight2053 basically stripped the wire, double it over then wrapped a little tape around each one but not tight. You could put the end of a cocktail stick in there to help keep the gap. Then slid them onto the pins and just pinched then as best I could
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thank you James.
I started using GSENDER software as I had a lot of problems with UGS. My cuts were mirrored due to an inverted Y axis, so I changed it in GSENDER and everything worked perfectly. I decided to try UGS and for my surprise all the coordinates of the machine got lost, like in negative position, the X0 Y0 position started in the X border, so everything is considered negative. I went back to Gsender and everything is correct, back to the center of the machine to the original position as I like to position home. Correcting firmware in Gsender is a breeze. In some video I found someone telling that UGS has negative and positive versions, is that correct? And what for would that be? Can I apply this video to produce my probe in Gsender? Thanks again.
Be good to do the same setup, but using an offline controller instead of the computer?
I'll look to get that done. Thanks
I followed exactly all the steps, but for some reason I am getting a soft-switch warning in either Candle or UGS?
Hi. It will probably be baord related then. My first guess would be whether its connected to the correct pins?
@@JamesDeanDesigns Hey. Thanks.
Well I tried a different version of Candle, and that seem to work just fine. It's connected to the right pins.
Do you also always have to home again before using de Z-probe again (for like a new task)?
James can you send or post the settings that you make for the shortcut number one button as I can’t seem to get mine to work after using z-probe. Thsnls
One thing I didn't mention is that function only works if you have not homed your machine. If you have homed it, it will not work. but the code is G90 G0 X0 Y0 G90 G0 Z0
Help ! New to cnc and made a home made z probe , followed the video but when the bit touch’s the metal it disconnects my machine from PC and advice would be welcome , thank in advance Stu
I suspect the pins you've connected to on the control board are wrong or possibly touching other pins around it. Are they definitely A5?
Can you leave a z probe connected to the CNC controller board permanently and just remove the alligator clip after zeroing z?
Yes, that is perfectly fine 👍
Sir I using cnc 3018 my parameters configuration settings is missing. I need your help all functional parameters configuration setup. I use candle .
Sir I shall be highly obliged if you kindly send me the parameters configuration cnc3018 . I hope you will send me. Thanking you
James, does all of this work with the new 3020 Pro Max?
Yes, basically the same for the 3020 👍
Hey hey can you please assist me?I’m having trouble putting the needle/tool in the spindle. The spindle won’t widen enough for it to fit in.
You need to make sure your collet insert is big enough to take the bit. There is usually a number stamped on the little silver insert stating what size it is. Its also sometimes easier to pop the insert out of the nut to put the bit in
Do you have to enter the text in the Probe Command Line every time, and if so, couldn't you just assign it to one of the buttons?
No, you only enter the probe command once and it should save it to memory
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thank you for your rapid response...
I have been trying to get this z probe to work in UGS and followed these directions but I cannot get it to work at all. When I initiate the probe cycle the machine pushes down into the probe and will not stop. I have to hit the emergency stop button . I know the probe works because it works in Candle but I cannot get it to in UGS.
Sorry to hear that. the Z probe is a basic circuit and this is the first time I have heard it working in one software but failing in another. It might be there is a bug in the version of UGS you have downloaded, that is the only thing I can think of
I realize this is a 3018 pro video, but i'm inquiring about the vacuum tube you have on your 4030 in this video. Is that on Thingiverse? If so, can you post the link. I can't seem to find it. Thanks in advance.
I dont think that particular design is on Thingiverse as the guy sells them on Etsy. Here is a link if your interested, I think he posts world wide tidd.ly/2Vlx7VM
My comment must have been out of whack. Most of message missing. Oh well keep up the good work.
RUclips's AI can be quite sensitive. It kept deleting one of my comments a while back 😕