Duramax LML ‘12-‘16 DEF Tank Heater Replacement

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @holylick5522
    @holylick5522 6 лет назад +5

    Thank you. I hope to not need it. I found a GM Bulletin online 29400-01; special coverage -Diesel Emissions Fluid Tank Reservoir -2013-2015 Chevrolet & GMC. It addresses a MIL caused by an offset in the temperature sensor in the diesel emissions reduction tank (DEF) reservoir or increased DEF tank heater resistance.
    This special coverage covers this condition for 10 years or 120,000 miles per the bulletin. Hope for it to be covered by this, if not I’ll pay the $150 diagnostic fee and change it out myself. Thanks again.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  6 лет назад +1

      I hope they get you covered. I read about that too but this truck although it’s a ‘16 is already at 180,000. I probably should have included the bulletin in the video. Thanks for watching.

    • @jonsmith3178
      @jonsmith3178 5 лет назад

      Anyone know if this special coverage includes a "regen" that the dealership will have to do after the repair? They are telling me that even though my truck has 49k miles and looks like the repair is covered, I would still have to pay them over $200 to do this necessary regen? Any thoughts?

    • @RPJCleaning
      @RPJCleaning 5 лет назад +1

      My 2015 went into limpmode and I had it serviced and have the heater replaced. My mechanic reset the check engine codes and the light is off but it is still in limpmode. Any ideas how to get it out?

    • @electronicsguy2806
      @electronicsguy2806 3 года назад

      THANK YOU! I have this error at 30K miles.

    • @Dirtybird51077
      @Dirtybird51077 3 года назад

      @@RPJCleaning mine is doing same thing. How did you get it out of limp mode?

  • @atlashydrographics
    @atlashydrographics Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I’ve changed mine twice now with your video. Lol

  • @JoshRhoades-i7q
    @JoshRhoades-i7q 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks just changed out my heater with this video. I have a 2015 and the torq screws for the straps was not t-30 it was t-40 for my truck and stripped one out caused some pain but got it fixed.

  • @supernat1978
    @supernat1978 Год назад +1

    Great video! I followed this a few weeks back to replace mine, but this week my dash started warning me that I only had 250 miles left, then dropped quickly to 130, then just said speed reduction soon, all in about a 40 mile drive which was the longest drive I've taken since I fixed it. I pulled over and added 2.5 gallons to the tank. The speed reduction warning (though never actually reduced) never went away after a week and many starts/drives. So I got another 2.5 gallons and started to fill it up again just in case. About a gallon went in before I heard it leaking all over the shop floor. It was pouring out the top of the tank heater, not at the filler. I immediately cleaned up and dropped the tank.
    The only thing I could find was a small amount of crystalization (must have been another time) around that small nipple on the pump, after taking the pump off. I noticed that little nipple is shorter than the longer one. The last time I replaced this, I just dropped the smaller oring down into the hole, but it goes down a ways. I don't think it is sealing at all. Off tomorrow to the store to find another oring. I saw someone online that put the oring on the pump first, but when I do that, it's literally impossible to get the pump to seat. The oring just gets mushed up against the pump and won't go in the hole. What a pain. I also noticed sprayed crystalization on the bottom of my exhaust pipe, no idea how it got there...guessing it was maybe splashing out down the road or something. DEF keeps on winning.

    • @Franklinveterinarycenter1of4
      @Franklinveterinarycenter1of4 Год назад

      Get you s ome silicone spray and coat those Orings good. Silicone will not hurt anything like penetrating oil will. then slide it in. Reset or clear, just disconnect the negative wire on battery and turn on headlights for 5 minutes. Then connect the negative back to battery. let truck sit for about an hour and then crank it. You can also just disconnect the negative battery terminal only for about an hour then hook it back up and crank truck and gently ride it around for about 30 minutes to reset the DEF ruductant pump, sensors, etc.

  • @KeolaKaai
    @KeolaKaai Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @98localunion
    @98localunion 2 года назад

    I just call gm this morning, told them about the code that came up with , they told me to take it to my dealer and gm is paying for it , thanks for the info I got here , it is going to save me alot of money.

  • @1loki69
    @1loki69 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video!

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  2 года назад +1

      You’re welcome, Garth.

    • @1loki69
      @1loki69 2 года назад

      @@kevefox lol. That'll never die, no matter how hard I try, it just won't die!

  • @jamil5454
    @jamil5454 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the detailed video! On my second DEF reservoir replacement. First one failed at 88k mi and was covered under the special bulletin 29400-01. Second one just failed at 149k.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  2 года назад

      You’re very welcome

  • @jamesgrose4819
    @jamesgrose4819 Год назад +1

    It’s a T-40 Torx. So thanks for helping me round out the f@&king screw on my first turn with a long extension. Facts matter!

  • @Makingshavingz
    @Makingshavingz 2 года назад +2

    Easily, and I can’t emphasize that enough, the best video on this repair I’ve come across, thanks!

  • @shanemorris4599
    @shanemorris4599 4 года назад +1

    thank you for posting was going to do, but saw the Service Bulletin notice. Called dealer and verified it fully covered. Thanks again.
    with your video, I'd had no problem with repair, actually prefer to do my own work, but $200 saved, going to dealer

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      Good to hear!

  • @eric6832
    @eric6832 Год назад

    Replaced the reductant heater, cleared the error codes but the trick is still trying to go into limp mode!😮 any tips on clearing the service emissions warning even though it's not showing the code anymore? Try a better scanner?

  • @johnnykeoni
    @johnnykeoni Год назад

    Did you just have to clear the check engine or was there any reprogramming?

  • @tommycat2009
    @tommycat2009 4 года назад +4

    VERY good video. kudos. I do this stuff for a living and I have to say, your video is very detailed. You took the time to put in all the needed details for the novice doing their own repairs.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I put a link in the video description for extended warranty coverage. It is possible for people to be retroactively payed for repairs performed while still within the extended coverage.

  • @isaacshacky17
    @isaacshacky17 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing

  • @bobtluchak8174
    @bobtluchak8174 4 года назад +4

    Quick, excellent thorough explanation of every step right down to each locking tab removal to help prevent damaging connectors. Great work!

  • @aaroncross2661
    @aaroncross2661 2 года назад

    Excellent!! Good job of explanation and camera work, GOOD DETAIL of tricks of plastic plugs!!! Very COOL

  • @jcourtouise
    @jcourtouise 4 года назад +7

    2016's use a T-40 to remove the tank straps!!! Thanks for posting this video.

    • @cfnovak1
      @cfnovak1 Год назад

      Just did one this week. I had to cut and widdle down the straps with a die grinder bc the torx bolts were so far gone. The engineers really love us mechanics.

    • @jakeroot2990
      @jakeroot2990 8 месяцев назад

      I came here to post this as I’m sitting at GMC, buying a new bolt!

  • @michaelroy4714
    @michaelroy4714 4 года назад +2

    This was a very helpful video. One thing to note, I had to replace the reductant heater pump. I was nervous that a code would need to be reset after doing so. This was not the case. I swapped it out, the entire process took less than two hours (with lunch) and was super easy all around. Code was cleared on install. The code I had was P20e8.

  • @derekddurbin
    @derekddurbin Год назад

    How much would a dealer charge to do that you think? I have a 2016 6.6 duramax says service def fluid system on the dic and it’s throttled down my speed to max 55 mph the dealer said the code says something about the def reductant heater code they’re actually diagnosing it tomorrow I told him that if they try to hit me with a large number I’m just gonna do the delete on it instead (I was being nice he understood though) is there ever an instance it could just be a code they can reset? I put 5 gallons of def in it so I know it’s full. Any advice? If I have to replace it how much you think a dealership would try to bend me over for?

    • @eric6832
      @eric6832 Год назад

      I think this is around the the $600-800 range at a dealer

  • @cheezeball6109
    @cheezeball6109 Год назад

    I knew this was going to be a great video when it starts off with son of b****

  • @kinyon86
    @kinyon86 5 лет назад +4

    I just had to do this and you video was super easy to follow. Thank you for making this.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад +2

      Glad to help!

  • @severodanielsr.2913
    @severodanielsr.2913 4 года назад +6

    Don’t forget you have to purge the pump before you place it back on the heater because if you don’t air will get in the line and cause a p20e8 code for pump low pressure then you risk the vehicle going into idle mode count down. Once in idle you will have a major pain getting out of idle mode. Trust me I am speaking from experience. Overall good video.

    • @Sleepvroffical
      @Sleepvroffical 4 года назад

      Hello friend! How do you purge the pump? I did mine and didnt purge and my check exhaust keeps comming on and off...

    • @jamesvigil156
      @jamesvigil156 4 года назад

      Yeah, what is the process of purging the pump exactly?

    • @michaelroy4714
      @michaelroy4714 4 года назад +1

      Severo Daniel Sr. Hi! I just had the dealership replace this under warranty, now the pump is firing off the p20e8 code! They want to replace the pump now but I think they forgot to purge. How do you purge and is there a way to see if its been done?

    • @mialinakakes
      @mialinakakes 4 года назад

      Severo how exactly did you purge the pump? Thanks

    • @billturnquist6888
      @billturnquist6888 2 года назад

      Has there been a reply on details of purging the pump? Have not seen one yet.

  • @learnites1
    @learnites1 3 года назад +1

    What a great video. Good job.

  • @craigjohnson3649
    @craigjohnson3649 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! Helped with my 2014 Savana 3500 so similar enough for vans too!

  • @williamgottschalk7263
    @williamgottschalk7263 5 лет назад +3

    Great video made the repair easy. Just had to clear the codes after installing the new def heater that way the check engine light would go away

  • @mikemyers8897
    @mikemyers8897 Год назад

    2016 98000 miles replaced for free .
    Lemon law

  • @HungryH1pp0
    @HungryH1pp0 5 лет назад +2

    Great instructional. Made the repair super easy. Thanks

  • @Franklinveterinarycenter1of4
    @Franklinveterinarycenter1of4 Год назад

    DEF codes at 32K and again 45K. both times replaced DEF reservoir and pump with module free due to extended 10 year/120,000 mile special warranty. 2016 LML 6.6. Don't delete the DEF.....depreciates the vehicle and no dealership wants it as a trade in.

  • @spin230
    @spin230 4 года назад

    Thank you SOOO much for the video!! I’m about to try to do this tomorrow. My truck is in limp mode at 55mph and I have 31 miles till it switches to the dreadful 4mph. I will have to do careful math to make sure I make it to the dealership & then back home..

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      Check your mileage, look in the description for extended warranty coverage.

    • @spin230
      @spin230 4 года назад

      All done with my struggle session, thank god you posted this video because I would’ve been lost without it!!! The hardest part was puttin those fuckin straps back in. I’m not sure is something got jammed in above the tank but it took me like an hour to put those stupid straps in. But fuck it,, it’s done.. It’s out of warranty, 2015 with 121k on her. Thanks again bro..

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      Oh damn! I think that was still covered....wait! They wouldn’t cover you with one extra thousand over? Damn!

  • @llcooljay66
    @llcooljay66 3 года назад

    How do you get the emissions warning to clear post replacement

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  3 года назад

      I just used the scan tool.

    • @llcooljay66
      @llcooljay66 3 года назад +1

      @@kevefox thanks I had to get one that would put it in regen mode but I got it to clear thanks

  • @REALfish1552
    @REALfish1552 3 года назад +1

    Narration: ....hose on the outlet tube. Just pop the clip up and slide it off.....(video cuts) spends 5 more minutes trying to get it off while yelling F***KING GOVT TRYING TO FIX THINKS BY MAKING 3000 MORE PROBLEMS...MOTHER....(video resumes with outlet tube already off, but placed back on the edge of the tube.... LOL
    I've yelled the above about 6 times and I'm only at the point of dropping the tank to access the wires... And some genius used (or replaced) 2 15mm bolts and 2 13mm bolts for the running boards. I figure by the time they were done fixing this the last time (we bought it used with 129k on it) they just threw bolts in to get the damn thing done.
    SERIOUSLY THOUGH, thanks for the very detailed video. I'm using it for my 2013 3500HD, only I'm working in the dirt under the vehicle in this damn heat. Did I mention F***KING GOVT TRYING TO FIX THINKS BY MAKING 3000 MORE PROBLEMS..... :)

  • @TheZerocool3312
    @TheZerocool3312 4 года назад +1

    My 2015 had this problem talked to my dealer service dept. to see what was involved with the replacement, they told me that the heater has a 120K mile warranty on it from the manufacture. The dealer replaced it free of charge. So you really need to ask about this before replacing the heater yourself.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      I added links to the video description last year.

  • @makepartsUSA
    @makepartsUSA 3 года назад

    thorough video appreciate you. do you think it's possible to get to the electrical connectors to pull apart/clean them, to check that prior to the full drop tank/replace assembly?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  3 года назад +1

      That might be a pretty tight fit. You could likely drop the tank far enough to reach in there without disconnecting hoses but those connectors are pretty reliable.

    • @makepartsUSA
      @makepartsUSA 3 года назад +1

      @@kevefox copy that. so it's likely the heater. I have a head unit that connects to the can bus, so I can clear the P21DD code, but it's starting to flash the code when it is above freezing. oh well.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  3 года назад

      Did you see the bulletin on extended warranty coverage?static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2017/MC-10135147-9999.pdf

  • @javiermartinez-gt2wm
    @javiermartinez-gt2wm 4 года назад

    I just had mine diagnosed today at the dealer ship. They want to charge me 800$ I guess it’s not under extended warranty. The check engine light just came on. How much longer do you think it will go before it goes into that limp mode?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      Bummer! Not sure how many miles but definitely not a good thing.

  • @kevefox
    @kevefox  6 лет назад

    A viewer noted this GM bulletin about special coverage for this repair. It covers the replacement of the DEF tank reservoir due to this MIL and extends coverage to 120,000 miles or 10 years.......
    gm.oemdtc.com/6957/29400-01-special-coverage-diesel-emission-fluid-tank-reservoir-2013-2015-chevrolet-gmc
    Thank you Holy Lick

    • @acampbell198
      @acampbell198 3 года назад +1

      Tinkering Fox, first, thank you for the video...one of the best how to vids I have seen. Particularly like how you cover the quirks or all the various connectors and the tricks on how to get them undone. This can be one of the most frustrating aspects of the job for the average do-it-yourselfer.
      Unfortunately I'm on the road w/ my fifth-wheel doing this myself will be a huge pain as I don't have all of my tools w/ me. I noted that the special coverage mentioned by Holy Lick and detailed in the link you provided only goes to '15 model year. I went on my.gm.com, signed in and found this special coverage listed for the 2016 model year (my truck's model year), static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10169652-9999.pdf. Hopefully I will get the repair covered. Thanks again for the video and all the info. Marking like and subscribing.

    • @michaellorenzi4522
      @michaellorenzi4522 Год назад

      @@acampbell198 The CEL in my 2016 Duramax came on yesterday with the same prompt in my DIC. I have an appt at the dealership tomorrow. THANK You for this, I just looked it up and it seems like my repair will be free.

  • @lway8332
    @lway8332 5 лет назад +1

    Mine was just replaced at a GMC dealership in May, 2019, and the check engine light has come on again? Any words of advice? Thanks!

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад +1

      Not really other than good luck. My wife’s 2016 LML is still running strong at 250,000K and my 2017 L5P is a pile of crap. Limp mode all the time for the DPF, had to replace the terminals in the #7 injector plug (the same problem every Duramax has had). It sat at the dealership for two weeks until a friend sent me the correct terminals to just rebuild the connector. Unreliable POS! We now keep an Edge Insight CS2 84030 (edgeproducts.com/shop/insight-cs2) so we can Regen the stupid thing weekly when it goes into limp mode. Hood scoop let’s the air filter get soaked every time it rains or snows.
      (Steer Clear!!!!)

    • @cognitivedissonance2643
      @cognitivedissonance2643 4 года назад +1

      @@kevefox the link for the part doesnt work, can u post a new one?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      Cognitive Dissonance here ya go... Edge Products 84030 Gauge www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZDNI8Y4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yCpkEb864YFSJ

  • @jasonf5659
    @jasonf5659 5 лет назад +1

    Im replacing mine tomorrow for the second time in 3 years. First time was at the dealership at about 70k miles. I'm at 140k now. I'm 24 miles from limp mode. Doing this myself amd already habe the tank dropped and pick up the part tomorrow.
    On resetting the codes, do i need to go to a GM dealership or can i get the codes cleared another way? Trying to avoid the limp mode bit this may be difficult as i live in the sticks. If i can swingnby autozone and habe them clear it.. great.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад +1

      I’m sorry it took so long to reply, I’ve been swamped at work. I cleared the code using a Snap-on scanner. Not sure if a regular code reader will work but I would guess so?

    • @jasonf5659
      @jasonf5659 5 лет назад +1

      @@kevefox Ya.. the code cleared but I'm.stuck with the Service.DEF system light and about to.go.into the second stage of the limp mode. I'm reduced to 65mph now.. and in 72 miles it lowers again to 55mph. The service guy at the dealership that cleared the code said the Service DEF light would go out on its own after a few miles once i filled it up... it's full (added 5 +/- gallons) and is still on. Kinda in a bind now. From what im reading on the web It looks like i need a real scanner to force a reset of the DEF lvl. The check engine light isn't on so I'm confident that i got the fix right.

    • @MrDannykane
      @MrDannykane 4 года назад

      @@jasonf5659 did the Service DEF clear on its own or did you have to use an advanced bi-directional scanner to clear?

    • @jasonf5659
      @jasonf5659 4 года назад

      @@MrDannykane No. Went into another stage of the limp mode. Took it to a local Diesel shop. The guy cleared it for me and reset it took about 6 tries.

    • @KirshaunW.
      @KirshaunW. 3 года назад +1

      @@jasonf5659 Mines doing the same thing after changing the def pump i get the service exhaust fluid and im about 92 miles from being limited to 65 mph. Was wanting to know is that a common thing after changing the def heater assembly?

  • @tedolsen2187
    @tedolsen2187 3 года назад

    How long did this operation take you? This has me wondering if I can believe that "contaminated DEF" has gelled up my heater and the mechanic really found this in the space of 2 hours in and out.
    I've got the P11CB and P20EE codes right now...

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  3 года назад +1

      I would say that 2 hours is definitely average for that job. It’s essentially the same thing as changing a fuel pump. As far as gelled def heater? Not so sure but maybe check with a few GM dealers to see if they’ve had much experience with contamination. I towed an ambulance today with gas in the diesel but a GM with under hood fill is a little harder to get wrong.

  • @scottmerrick1946
    @scottmerrick1946 5 лет назад

    Does the Launch scan tool in the beginning of the video reset it after repairs?The one I am working on is already on the countdown to shutdown.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад +1

      Scott Merrick yes, the tool in the video is capable of getting the truck out of limp mode or forcing a re-gen. My truck never went into limp mode but I did clear the code when finished. Also if you’re under 120K miles and under 10 yrs old the stealership might cover the job under an extended service TSB. There is a link in the video description.....
      Thanks for watching

  • @phillipwhittaker2389
    @phillipwhittaker2389 5 лет назад

    Do you by chance have a Part number and brand that you use in this video?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад

      Yes, it’s GM# 84412924. It’s in the first 1 minute of the video. Be careful when you order. With the ongoing GM strike you want to be sure that the seller physically has the part. If they’re drop-shipping from Detroit or Flint you might not see it for a while....FYI
      *Also check the description of the video....GM has extended the warranty coverage of this part, link in the description.

  • @matthewspickard7052
    @matthewspickard7052 4 года назад

    Did they change the part number for this? When I search for 84412924, on gmpartsdirect.com, it brings up "Diesel Exhaust Fluid (Def) Pump - GM (84412924). Doesn't mention anything about the heater, just the pump. Is this really the correct part still?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад +1

      It’s the pump, reservoir, sender, heater & everything

    • @mattspickard3065
      @mattspickard3065 4 года назад

      Tinkering Fox Thanks man! Your video really gave me complete confidence to do this myself. I’m 2K miles over the special extended warranty and dealer wants $1100 to fix.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      That sucks! I hope it goes smooth!

    • @mattspickard3065
      @mattspickard3065 4 года назад

      Couple questions before I start if you don’t mind.
      1. Do I have to get the computer reset since I’m in limp mode now once the new heater is in?
      2. Do I have to prime the pump once I get the new heater in?
      Thanks for your replies!!!

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  4 года назад

      I’m not sure about the reset. I wasn’t in limp mode but I did clear the code when I finished installing it. I didn’t prime my pump but I’m not sure if that’s part of the process. I would certainly completely fill the tank when done though.

  • @holylick5522
    @holylick5522 6 лет назад +1

    Did you use GM part# 84412924 for this repair?

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  6 лет назад

      Holy Lick yes, picked it up on eBay for $175.

  • @cornellwilliams3
    @cornellwilliams3 5 лет назад

    Great video! We almost deleted are def system.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад

      Thanks, check the “video description” I put a link in there to extended coverage by GM for this repair.

    • @cornellwilliams3
      @cornellwilliams3 5 лет назад +1

      I’m calling the dealership right now. Thank you again!

    • @cornellwilliams3
      @cornellwilliams3 5 лет назад

      My 2016 GMC is not covered under the vin number I gave them.

    • @kevefox
      @kevefox  5 лет назад

      Bummer

    • @davidhepburn4293
      @davidhepburn4293 Год назад

      i have a 2016 denalli duelly ...it better be covered or the dealer gets the truck through the showroom window ....lol

  • @brandonpower9749
    @brandonpower9749 2 года назад

    You mean 2011-2016 when the lml was made. FAIL.

    • @ericrowley18
      @ericrowley18 2 года назад

      2011 is a different system than the 2012-2016.

  • @tonyverdiglione7395
    @tonyverdiglione7395 Год назад

    Great video. Thank you!