Up wasn’t concerned about popularising Wing Chun. Particularly to the west. Bruce was Wong Shun Leong’s student in Ips school. After Bruce went to the states and started acting & teaching, Ip shunned him.
To all the MMA fighters out there you should all remember that the father of MMA was bruce lee. His main foundation came from wing chun it self to begin with, so please show some respect to all martial arts...as you should always keep in mind that there will always be good competition in all arts...so get your facts right and research on actual facts before you sound out. There will always be some one bigger and stronger then you.
@@drewdrewski6278 actually it was, Barton wright , Who mixed martial arts in the 1800s England and formed his own martial arts out of the mixing of the martial arts he knew , It was called bartitsu ,
It's called tradition and style. Much like dancing is. It's practically their form of dancing. It's a movement based on flow and practice. As with most traditional martial arts, it's ancient, it's legend, it's practice, it's kung fu. It may not win in a today's fight, but it's about the tradition and the art form, not necessarily the "who can beat up who." Now take what I said and stop arguing.
depends on The fighter for The most part many people have a har time useing what they learnd in a real fight and have hade very lite experiens of sparing The funny thing that is with wing chun is that some tearchers teashes sparing and some dont compera to judo wheir every tearsh teashes sparing and The same with MMA so it really depands how you learn from and chi sao is only to build up your reflekses and in a real fight it doesnt look as pretty as in this video.
Wing Chun, as I understand it, is the art of using your opponents movements to disable then. For instance, if someone comes as you with a strike, you would not only block them but use their momentum to close them up so they cannot hit you, leaving them very vulnerable, vs Jiu-Jitsu which opens the opponent to strike them. It is a very effective form as I have a friend who is belted and has taught me(a former Marine) a few things. Love the video!
Yes. The master is clearly showing so complicated Wing Chun skills that average individuals cannot see the linkage of them at all. I learned the depth of Wing Chun from this video.
Don't knock someone else's style just because you lack the comprehension to see the applications. This video is a demo of reflex training...the actual fighting applications look much different (IF you see them at all before you get KO'd). Just because you don't want to participate doesn't mean you should hate. Challenge a WC master for yourself. When you get out of the E.R. we can talk again.
Are you an awkward nerd who fantasizes about beating up his bullies? Do you want to be a fighter but don't want to get punched in the face? Is getting in shape too much of a hassle for you? Wanna (secretly) feel tougher than the meat head wearing the Tapout shirt? Would you like to live in a fantastic dream world, where crazy Chinese men with heavy accents sell you (Disclaimer: "never actually pulled off") moves they made up while tripping out on opiates? Then Wing Chun is for you!
This is a very good representation of chi sau sparing. Performed correctly and with great control. Performed in this manner, nobody has to get hurt. No egos
Vladimir Krstic You realize they aren't fighting though right? They practice like that everyday. These guys can deflect a punch like no other. You'd throw a punch and it would miss completely, so you'd throw another and it'd miss completely too.
I grew up watching Bruce Lee movies and as a child mimic him. He is the founder of JKD which means "Way of the Fist" nobody will ever come close to him. He was an amazing martial artist and is all thanks to Ip Man Wing Chun. He learned the first two forms then practiced daily on Wooden Dummy. And that's my goal!
Wing Chun is such a beautiful style to watch. I hope to find somewhere to learn sometime soon, provided that my physical limitations will allow me to train in some way.
I work at a facility for the mentally ill, and I do have to say, sticking hands definitely helped build up reflexes that have helped me on the job, especially in breaking up fights. The most recent incident I had to step in to break up, I was able to keep the patient from attacking by restraining the shoulders with my hands from the front, preventing any attempts to strike anyone. I had to read the movements in motion, and that's where the sticking hand training came in.
Quiz: I always would like to know this answer: In a real fight to defending his life, who has the winner's advantage? A master of karate with full knowledge of kata's bunkai and makiwara experienced or a Wing Chun master trained in wooden dummy (mudjong).
@TheBallKeeper I agree with you to a certain extent. Bruce Lee was not buff by any means. He only weighed around 130 pounds but was able to hold a barbell of 120 pounds infront of him for 20 seconds. That's tendon strength. Most of Bruce Lee's work out training revolved around isometrics. Bruce believed in functional strength (tendons/ligaments). It was because of isometrics that gave Bruce his awesome speed and power. Sil Nim Tao is an isometric form.
you should promote your sifu's name. add it to the title and/or description box and/or comment wall. i'm sure i'm not the only one impressed by his skills & wanting to find out more. thanks.
Don’t worry I understand where you are coming from, there is a thing with Wing Chun that its actually quite difficult to see how it can work, I’ve met people who have done it for a few years and haven’t figured it out, and even when you are learning it you have to put a lot of trust in your Sifu that what he’s teaching you works. But believe me if you learn it right and understand it, and if you have actually trained properly, most people don’t, it will definitely work.
whoops, feel like a goob now cause i posted on another of your vids asking who your teacher was. great video. not a whole lot of wing chun goin on here in nashville, tn :(
@TheBallKeeper you are 80% correct. The major points that people miss are: With the arms extended, your face is much further from the punch; By watching different areas of the body (not hands and feet) you get twice the time to react; Footwork should have you out of range of the punch while either deflecting or dodging and simultaneously striking; The most crucial is - if a boxer has no gloves on but holds his hand to his head, I'm gonna smash that hand into his head until he's KO'd by it...
Alot of ignorant people don't realize that it was developed by a woman. Wing Chun can appear to be soft but can turn hard at any moment necessary. Nice demo. Nice Chi Sao. Wing Chun demos can be boring. But this Sifu did an excellent job!
when it comes to close range fight it will be a gr8 asset, but a combination of such arts would really help a lot on streets, especially grappling combined with strikes !
I had a lot street fight I did good because of wing ching and other stuff I learn when was young. I combined my own style of fighting without fighting. It not matter I big a person is or the fight he does. Without the energy within inside there's no hope! When you built your aura then you are more powerful then a regular human. Your speed and power increase. That what Bruce was doing. But not too many people knew. So wing ching was my key to find my energy. Loke I said before i had to many fight and i use too live in the project. It does work on real fights.
@OMFGDmanrules What I think of when I watch them in the beginning of the demonstration.. It seems to help with a lot of defensive blocking. And speed, and location of where people's hits will land. Wing Chun is about learning to see what someone does before they even do it, so that you can instantly defend it and make a vital blow.
@iApna I'd like to respectfully ask you a question. Do you think that in a fight to the death the system of MMA would be more effective than the system of WC. Taking into account that MMA is a sport ( a good one) where the prime focus is on the tap out or ko and WC is a weapons based combat system where one of the first things you learn is how to strike to the vital points to cause death? I would be interested to hear your response. I'm trying to understand how you MMA guys think. Thanks
@TheBallKeeper I agree that it is important to analyze every art. Wing Chun is unique because it incorporates physics into the actual style, which can enable you to use your opponent's energy against them. While I agree that analyzing or even learning different arts can be beneficial, and that certain arts have certain advantages/disadvantages, Wing Chun takes all of these into consideration. It just comes down to how much practice you have attained and how disciplined you are.
that technique is sticky hands, its used when 2 wing chun ppl are training and testing their abilties and gain sensitivity, it helps a bit in real situations in that u can move ur oponent and feel where the force of their next blow will be, since in most wing chun forms of offence, you hold onto your opponent
Chi sau is not a fighting application,its merely a training exercise to develop sensitivity,positioning and to work on and perfect both attack and defence skills
@iApna well u said that 2 eye gouge, u have to get close but wing is all about gettin in close and attacking from there because most fighters do not know how to fight so close. Wen face 2 face, it is easy 2 knee 2 the groin and strike them 2 the neck and u can also eye gouge them during a combo or holding them. Muay thai is one of the other styles which is very good inside because of their clinch though eye gouging gives easy targets 2 hit wherever
@iApna In the video with multiple attacks,u would go grapple?That is a real situation and usually grampling is too slow so to loose time with one enemy.I would hit and go
@hgamer I don't know if that was a joke what you said, but muscle memory is when you have done something so often and so many times that you don't have to think about it you just do it. Like brushing your teeth in the morning but with kung fu.
(Cont.) Knees to face- which are illegal in UFC while opponent is grounded which is what they are when they are going for a take down. Elbows to base of head/neck which are also illegal etc. I could go on with all the illegal strikes and techniques but it is easy enough for you to search them within the UFC rules.
@TheBallKeeper a measured fact maybe, but you need to be able to land that punch for it to be effective. A professional boxer has a punch speed of roughly 4 punches per second, a speed which cannot be maintained because of the amount of energy required. A proficient WC student can throw at least 6 punches a second and the masters throw more than 8 punches a second, all directed to the most sensitive parts of the body. Boxing matches last for several rounds. WC fights last for several seconds.
@MaestroDraven I'll tell you what, I'll do that. I can't now because I'm transitioning into my own business and it's taking a lot of time, but I'm sure there's a wing chun school around here. My only question is this: will they let me counter with BJJ?
@julian16s As the narrator does say, this is Augustine Fong. He teaches in Tucson, Arizona. His students operate branches all over, like the guy who posted this demo, who's in Chicago.
I just want to point out some of the subtleties here. Look how relaxed Sifu Fong is and how he redirects force into his stance without losing balance. It's ... awesome. None of the applied pressure is making it into the core of his body. I would hate to chi sao against him as he would tire me out in less than a minute of practice.
@jjdidit3 That’s incorrect, All wing chun moves are applicable in a fight, It is usually a bit difficult to understand why but they’re are all useful. Including Chi Sau (sticky hands) but obviously on one would try to defend them self with the chis sau drill, but the principals behind it are entirely useful in any sel defence situation
I am going to start wing chun training next week. after watching Ip man...I have always wanted to train but I did not realize how superior it is compared to all other martial arts in the direct approach and redirecting your opponents energy... I had studies Tae kwon do back in the late 80's and it don't compare...if you don't like it just watch some video's that some of the sifu's post...do a search on wing chun basics and watch Wong Shun Leung's video's on the art its awesome....
@TheBallKeeper Footwork is a combination of both fencing and boxing. Shuffle footwork in closing/widening the distance is base off of fencing, evasive footwork is from boxing. Wing Chun is a good art, but sadly, many instructors don't explain why you should do Sil Nim Tao in slow motion for hours and hours. So it becomes boring, the person doesn't do it, and he/she doesn't become fast/strong.
@TheGr8one1022 would a fight or altercation in the street be considered a "real" situation? Is it ok to shoot in and take someone down in that situation?
@iApna i mean iam not a marital artist but my teacher was a taekwon-do instructor. I see what you are saying about fighting on the streets, anything goes no fair fighting. But my thing is why arguing over whose style is better.
@iApna On 2 separate occasions I've put guys down with a single punch and those punches were deliberately gauged to concuss and not kill. If you know anything about fighting you should know that when you hit a guy he can stumble backwards & remain standing, he can stumble back and fall or he will collapse downwards on the spot. The last one means that as soon as he got hit he was unconscious. If needs be that could very easily be gauged up to be a killing blow. Talking from experience on the st.
@theantichristproduct Eye gouges, groin strikes, throat strikes, certain elbow strikes, kicking or kneeing the head of a grounded opponent and so on. You think these techniques are banned because they're ineffective?
@iApna iApna u are muai tai fighter if i remember good.Tell me honestly.In a fight out of the ring u would use gramble and wrestle?Or your fast front kick or front punch?
@TheBallKeeper and FYI - compare WC hand position to that of BAREKNUCKLE boxers. Boxers cover their head the way they do because they have gloves on to help protect. The WC hand positioning actually makes it harder for your opponent as they can't "get inside" the stance the same way you can with a boxer. You have made it very clear to me that you have never studied WC, and are a newbie to either boxing or Muay Thai. You need to learn this - Boxing and MT are sports, WC is a fighting system.
@TheBallKeeper theres actually a 3rd movie without ip man in the title. I was only responding to your statement about the strongest punch though, because otherwise i agree, like bruce lee said you have to be fluid, like water.
All the top fighters are strikers, but are also very well rounded and can take the fight anywhere they want. I would say its evenly split between strikers and grapplers. You can't be a good striker without being a good grappler. A common technique used to come to your senses after being hit hard or being hurt is to grab your opponent. Most fighters are not 100% going into the match due to their extreme training regiment.
A fighter does not become the best by simply learning a certain style, a fighter becomes the best through training, conditioning, heart, and a willingness to learn. Anyone who says that one martial art is better than another is being ignorant. It is the combination of knowledge and technique that makes a fighter great. "absorb what is useful, discard what is not, and add what is uniquely your own" Bruce Lee
@Limemill so is what i just said about wing chun. see when fighting you're not supposed to make a plan of things. things just happen. not everybody has "speed" and speed isn't necessary in wing chun. just power at a short distance.
@MultiBlasian a grappler will stand just out of range, move in fast when it appears safest, keep covered until they establish a grip, and once in a clinch, the efficacy of strikes is reduced due to the limited range. Except for Shawn Obasi, wing chun consistently loses to grappling.
@InTheWeedz No you wont, because this is a slowed demonstration, in full offense, wing chun is about shock and pushing forward constantly, when will you have room to "hook"?
@ssMajor825 The term 'kung fu' refers laragely to physical labor of any kind. Anybody who is skilled with their hands could be considered to practice 'kung fu', regardless of whether it's a martial art or not. The term wushu refers more directly to chinese martial arts in general, of which there are scores of different varieties, one of which is wing chun.
@TheBallKeeper there's one other point I missed (sorry) and it's pretty damn crucial. Contrary to perceptions, the trailing hand is never stationary. It often follows the elbow of the lead hand. When the lead hand is extended, the trailing hand is moving either forward, up, down, left or right or it's striking, depending on your opponents body language (the most skilled fighter can still be read like a book). If the trailing hand isn't deflecting or COVERING the head OR BODY then it is STRIKING.
@simonmafy i understand you. I practice Wing Chun (but just for 8 months...) and when i train sometimes, i feel some need to be a little more free, is that what you mean? (you practice Jeet Kune Do?)
@iApna ehhhh not exactly. I've done trapping within the muay Thai clinch and it works! Mostly jamming the arms up or covering them to get to the head and body. If you have good sensitivity you can swim/trace the other guy's arms alot better.
@TheBallKeeper Again, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just explaining the significance of tendon strength over muscle strength in terms of explosive power. Bruce Lee put emphasis on body mechanics & tendon strength while boxers put emphasis on body mechnics and muscle strength. Ask a boxer where does power come from, he'll say body mechanics and muscle. I've met many boxers, none of them refer to tendon strength. In fact not many people know about tendon strength.
I agree at the top end of Wing chun, Bill Gee Form; you are going for the soft body targets and the intention is to cease their operation or remove them from the victim, out reaching the opponent in the process.There is no room for that in rules and gloved fighting.
@spikeydewd01 Problem is, a hook is quick - speed is its crucial feature - and is performed at short range, either after a dive under the opponent's arm, which instantaneously breaks the distance, or when you naturally approach your adversary after a sucessful combination of punches. It shouldn't be confused with a long-distance loopy punch, which takes a lot more time and is easier to predict and deflect by far. In fact, a hook is extremely difficult to avoid or block - even for professionals.
@iApna Again I am puzzled when you tell me otherwise, that you use your head instead of your fists. The words clearly show a side that is totally different from what you are telling me. I have a hard time believe you would refrain entirely from conflict, and instead incite and invite it hoping for an opportunity to use it or at least prove to others of your effectiveness. So if it's not the art, then clearly it is the people that is the issue. Or am I totally missing it?
@TheBallKeeper The point you were making was that Wing Chun was wrong because they don't punch as hard. The point I was making was that we don't need to. I really think you need to study the system for a while then you'll get it. I came from a TKD, Muay Thai & Boxing background. It took a little time but once the penny dropped, I was hooked.
@iApna Respect to you. You sound swiched on. Every wing chun person who has learned the full system knows how to kill within 3 punches. When it comes to weapons the first cut would end the conflict. Again, I'm not taking anything away from MMA I just want to understand how an empty hand system (as used in the ring) can be more effective in a fight to the death vs a system which employs the use of two knives? I'm always open to learn new ideas/hear different points of view.
@cheshirepat30 Wing chun is extremely defensive. Even in limited range, wing chun is essentially the only technique that puts the one inch punch into actual combat. With limited range there is still force that can hit like a sledge hammer and it's faster too (wing chun punches are frequent)
@SkemeKOS Yeah that's true. Also with MMA fighters and boxers, their fighting style relies heavily on size and strength for grappling/endurance/heavy blows respectively. In contrast a good wing chun practitioner is generally small in build to help promote speed and fluidity. Wing chun doesn't use strength to over power the opponent. It uses balance, dominance and speed to make the opponents strength invalid. But it's like in the sequel "ip man 2" where he's fighting a boxer.
No need for name calling. My comment wasn't meant as being disrespectful to SiFu Fong or to your school. The point was that many don't understand these type of demonstrations and actually think Wing Chun teaches to fight using sticky hands. This leads to many people saying negative things about Wing Chun. I'm sure SiFu Fong wouldn't want you or I to be disrespectful to each other. So, I apologize that my comment wasn't worded in a more concise way.
@iApna very good point. its definitely open to interpretation & yeh finding inspiration in muoy thai for adding techniques is something of a grey area i would think. i suppose what ip man (1 of the greatest kung fu grandmasters in history) set out to do was break the rigidity of tradition in this respect. when training for such radically unconventional techniques like high kicks, low punches, strikes from a distance etc. he probably used the same body mechanics as usual wing chun... somehow :P
Alright you seem to have some training in martial arts. Say you were a soldier and wanted to take up a martial art, not for sport, but for real hand to hand combat with people with knives and guns, what martial art would be best suited for that sort of defense/offense.
@MiniBlueDragon the problem is a lott of people don,t realize what they are doing is a exercise i wish they explained more about what they are doing for people who dont know wing chun .. What they ar doing here is chi sau its a exercise to train your reflexes and such
Ip Man popularized Wing Chun. Bruce Lee was Ip Man's student!
How do you mean "Popularized" Ip Man wasn't a popular character until after Bruce Lee became famous
Bruce Lee popularized him Ip Man and Wing Chun.
This video is soo old xD
Up wasn’t concerned about popularising Wing Chun. Particularly to the west. Bruce was Wong Shun Leong’s student in Ips school. After Bruce went to the states and started acting & teaching, Ip shunned him.
To all the MMA fighters out there you should all remember that the father of MMA was bruce lee.
His main foundation came from wing chun it self to begin with, so please show some respect to all martial arts...as you should always keep in mind that there will always be good competition in all arts...so get your facts right and research on actual facts before you sound out. There will always be some one bigger and stronger then you.
No!! The father of MMA was Helio Gracie dude...
@@drewdrewski6278 Wing Chun/Kungfu practitioners are obsessed with MMA.
The person bigger and stronger will be an MMA fighter not a wing Chun practitioner that's the point.
@@drewdrewski6278 actually it was, Barton wright ,
Who mixed martial arts in the 1800s England and formed his own martial arts out of the mixing of the martial arts he knew ,
It was called bartitsu ,
@@mrt445 like MMA practitioners are obsessed with wing chun
It's called tradition and style. Much like dancing is. It's practically their form of dancing. It's a movement based on flow and practice. As with most traditional martial arts, it's ancient, it's legend, it's practice, it's kung fu. It may not win in a today's fight, but it's about the tradition and the art form, not necessarily the "who can beat up who." Now take what I said and stop arguing.
depends on The fighter for The most part many people have a har time useing what they learnd in a real fight and have hade very lite experiens of sparing The funny thing that is with wing chun is that some tearchers teashes sparing and some dont compera to judo wheir every tearsh teashes sparing and The same with MMA so it really depands how you learn from and chi sao is only to build up your reflekses and in a real fight it doesnt look as pretty as in this video.
+pontus grenehed +1
Wing Chun versus Dalton troll style. That was a joke! Just take it!
Wing Chun, as I understand it, is the art of using your opponents movements to disable then. For instance, if someone comes as you with a strike, you would not only block them but use their momentum to close them up so they cannot hit you, leaving them very vulnerable, vs Jiu-Jitsu which opens the opponent to strike them. It is a very effective form as I have a friend who is belted and has taught me(a former Marine) a few things. Love the video!
Yes. The master is clearly showing so complicated Wing Chun skills that average individuals cannot see the linkage of them at all. I learned the depth of Wing Chun from this video.
Don't knock someone else's style just because you lack the comprehension to see the applications. This video is a demo of reflex training...the actual fighting applications look much different (IF you see them at all before you get KO'd). Just because you don't want to participate doesn't mean you should hate. Challenge a WC master for yourself. When you get out of the E.R. we can talk again.
You'd see them get hit once then turn into a boxer if they're smart about it lol
Are you an awkward nerd who fantasizes about beating up his bullies? Do you want to be a fighter but don't want to get punched in the face? Is getting in shape too much of a hassle for you? Wanna (secretly) feel tougher than the meat head wearing the Tapout shirt? Would you like to live in a fantastic dream world, where crazy Chinese men with heavy accents sell you (Disclaimer: "never actually pulled off") moves they made up while tripping out on opiates?
Then Wing Chun is for you!
u people tht think's this looks silly watch if ip man was alive right now he would kick ur guys asses with wing chun :P
The first time I ever saw Wing Chun. I've been curious, and finally addicted ever since.
This is a very good representation of chi sau sparing. Performed correctly and with great control. Performed in this manner, nobody has to get hurt. No egos
All the people who act knowledgeable in MA only act that way because they watch UFC lol pathetic. Especially the BJJ and muay thai fangirls.
I don't get it, why do people think this is effective? xD In a real fight you are forced to fight in a very very different way.
You think that, until you fight one of these guys and get your ass beat.
I use to think like that to :P
used xD
Vladimir Krstic
You realize they aren't fighting though right? They practice like that everyday. These guys can deflect a punch like no other. You'd throw a punch and it would miss completely, so you'd throw another and it'd miss completely too.
thanks jesus :)
I grew up watching Bruce Lee movies and as a child mimic him. He is the founder of JKD which means "Way of the Fist" nobody will ever come close to him. He was an amazing martial artist and is all thanks to Ip Man Wing Chun. He learned the first two forms then practiced daily on Wooden Dummy. And that's my goal!
Lovely to watch. these guys were only demonstrating. Imagine what they could do for real. I am so proud to be a WC Student.
Wing Chun is such a beautiful style to watch. I hope to find somewhere to learn sometime soon, provided that my physical limitations will allow me to train in some way.
I work at a facility for the mentally ill, and I do have to say, sticking hands definitely helped build up reflexes that have helped me on the job, especially in breaking up fights. The most recent incident I had to step in to break up, I was able to keep the patient from attacking by restraining the shoulders with my hands from the front, preventing any attempts to strike anyone. I had to read the movements in motion, and that's where the sticking hand training came in.
fantastic sense of humour. what a great demo!
Very nice demonstration. Your Sifu seems quite skilled. Cheers!
Quiz: I always would like to know this answer: In a real fight to defending his life, who has the winner's advantage? A master of karate with full knowledge of kata's bunkai and makiwara experienced or a Wing Chun master trained in wooden dummy (mudjong).
I like WC its a beautiful display of grace and control I see that it is not just self control you can bend the will of the oponant
this man, is now officially, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.. I salute you sir
@TheBallKeeper I agree with you to a certain extent. Bruce Lee was not buff by any means. He only weighed around 130 pounds but was able to hold a barbell of 120 pounds infront of him for 20 seconds. That's tendon strength. Most of Bruce Lee's work out training revolved around isometrics. Bruce believed in functional strength (tendons/ligaments). It was because of isometrics that gave Bruce his awesome speed and power. Sil Nim Tao is an isometric form.
i know this is an ancient post, but solid observation
you should promote your sifu's name. add it to the title and/or description box and/or comment wall. i'm sure i'm not the only one impressed by his skills & wanting to find out more. thanks.
I love this, perfect demonstration, great inspiration in learning such a style, I love this video.
I love it. was train when I was 12 never finish it
I have one more to finish but it going to be a long while. Had many street fight haven't lose.
Don’t worry I understand where you are coming from, there is a thing with Wing Chun that its actually quite difficult to see how it can work, I’ve met people who have done it for a few years and haven’t figured it out, and even when you are learning it you have to put a lot of trust in your Sifu that what he’s teaching you works. But believe me if you learn it right and understand it, and if you have actually trained properly, most people don’t, it will definitely work.
Who's the genius who hung those dragon banners? Seriously. Brilliant set-up.
wing chun is actually a very applicable art. This is only a demonstration of one of the particular training methods within the art.
whoops, feel like a goob now cause i posted on another of your vids asking who your teacher was. great video. not a whole lot of wing chun goin on here in nashville, tn :(
@TheBallKeeper you are 80% correct. The major points that people miss are: With the arms extended, your face is much further from the punch; By watching different areas of the body (not hands and feet) you get twice the time to react; Footwork should have you out of range of the punch while either deflecting or dodging and simultaneously striking;
The most crucial is - if a boxer has no gloves on but holds his hand to his head, I'm gonna smash that hand into his head until he's KO'd by it...
@TheBallKeeper i like how little you know and understand... thumbs up
Alot of ignorant people don't realize that it was developed by a woman. Wing Chun can appear to be soft but can turn hard at any moment necessary. Nice demo. Nice Chi Sao. Wing Chun demos can be boring. But this Sifu did an excellent job!
when it comes to close range fight it will be a gr8 asset, but a combination of such arts would really help a lot on streets, especially grappling combined with strikes !
amazing hand-eye coordination...it is also great exercise for the brain !!!
I had a lot street fight I did good because of wing ching and other stuff I learn when was young. I combined my own style of fighting without fighting. It not matter I big a person is or the fight he does. Without the energy within inside there's no hope! When you built your aura then you are more powerful then a regular human. Your speed and power increase. That what Bruce was doing. But not too many people knew. So wing ching was my key to find my energy. Loke I said before i had to many fight and i use too live in the project. It does work on real fights.
Yep !
well thats why you put there the dots, but not everyone can read the whole sentence right, awesome video, awesome martial art
@OMFGDmanrules What I think of when I watch them in the beginning of the demonstration.. It seems to help with a lot of defensive blocking. And speed, and location of where people's hits will land. Wing Chun is about learning to see what someone does before they even do it, so that you can instantly defend it and make a vital blow.
@iApna I'd like to respectfully ask you a question. Do you think that in a fight to the death the system of MMA would be more effective than the system of WC. Taking into account that MMA is a sport ( a good one) where the prime focus is on the tap out or ko and WC is a weapons based combat system where one of the first things you learn is how to strike to the vital points to cause death? I would be interested to hear your response. I'm trying to understand how you MMA guys think. Thanks
@TheBallKeeper I agree that it is important to analyze every art. Wing Chun is unique because it incorporates physics into the actual style, which can enable you to use your opponent's energy against them. While I agree that analyzing or even learning different arts can be beneficial, and that certain arts have certain advantages/disadvantages, Wing Chun takes all of these into consideration. It just comes down to how much practice you have attained and how disciplined you are.
@Kaniwano please link something they've done that looks even close to this....
that technique is sticky hands, its used when 2 wing chun ppl are training and testing their abilties and gain sensitivity, it helps a bit in real situations in that u can move ur oponent and feel where the force of their next blow will be, since in most wing chun forms of offence, you hold onto your opponent
Chi sau is not a fighting application,its merely a training exercise to develop sensitivity,positioning and to work on and perfect both attack and defence skills
@iApna well u said that 2 eye gouge, u have to get close but wing is all about gettin in close and attacking from there because most fighters do not know how to fight so close. Wen face 2 face, it is easy 2 knee 2 the groin and strike them 2 the neck and u can also eye gouge them during a combo or holding them. Muay thai is one of the other styles which is very good inside because of their clinch though eye gouging gives easy targets 2 hit wherever
@iApna what does 3 miles in 21 minutes have anything to do with fighting
no fighting style is superior to another. it is the practicioner that makes all the difference. training, training, training, and more training.
@iApna In the video with multiple attacks,u would go grapple?That is a real situation and usually grampling is too slow so to loose time with one enemy.I would hit and go
@hgamer I don't know if that was a joke what you said, but muscle memory is when you have done something so often and so many times that you don't have to think about it you just do it. Like brushing your teeth in the morning but with kung fu.
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Knees to face- which are illegal in UFC while opponent is grounded which is what they are when they are going for a take down.
Elbows to base of head/neck which are also illegal etc.
I could go on with all the illegal strikes and techniques but it is easy enough for you to search them within the UFC rules.
@TheBallKeeper a measured fact maybe, but you need to be able to land that punch for it to be effective. A professional boxer has a punch speed of roughly 4 punches per second, a speed which cannot be maintained because of the amount of energy required. A proficient WC student can throw at least 6 punches a second and the masters throw more than 8 punches a second, all directed to the most sensitive parts of the body. Boxing matches last for several rounds. WC fights last for several seconds.
@alacapesci how is that possible when we don't use muscle in our techniques
@InTheWeedz you are so bad ass...... how you gonna perform that hook punch, d, d/f, f + P .....
@MaestroDraven I'll tell you what, I'll do that. I can't now because I'm transitioning into my own business and it's taking a lot of time, but I'm sure there's a wing chun school around here. My only question is this: will they let me counter with BJJ?
@julian16s
As the narrator does say, this is Augustine Fong.
He teaches in Tucson, Arizona.
His students operate branches all over, like the guy who posted this demo, who's in Chicago.
I just want to point out some of the subtleties here. Look how relaxed Sifu Fong is and how he redirects force into his stance without losing balance. It's ... awesome. None of the applied pressure is making it into the core of his body. I would hate to chi sao against him as he would tire me out in less than a minute of practice.
@jjdidit3 That’s incorrect, All wing chun moves are applicable in a fight, It is usually a bit difficult to understand why but they’re are all useful. Including Chi Sau (sticky hands) but obviously on one would try to defend them self with the chis sau drill, but the principals behind it are entirely useful in any sel defence situation
I am going to start wing chun training next week. after watching Ip man...I have always wanted to train but I did not realize how superior it is compared to all other martial arts in the direct approach and redirecting your opponents energy... I had studies Tae kwon do back in the late 80's and it don't compare...if you don't like it just watch some video's that some of the sifu's post...do a search on wing chun basics and watch Wong Shun Leung's video's
on the art its awesome....
@tekproxy do you think his student is letting him do this?
@TheBallKeeper Footwork is a combination of both fencing and boxing. Shuffle footwork in closing/widening the distance is base off of fencing, evasive footwork is from boxing. Wing Chun is a good art, but sadly, many instructors don't explain why you should do Sil Nim Tao in slow motion for hours and hours. So it becomes boring, the person doesn't do it, and he/she doesn't become fast/strong.
@MaestroDraven agreed. good to see level headed people out here too.
@TheGr8one1022 would a fight or altercation in the street be considered a "real" situation? Is it ok to shoot in and take someone down in that situation?
@iApna i mean iam not a marital artist but my teacher was a taekwon-do instructor. I see what you are saying about fighting on the streets, anything goes no fair fighting. But my thing is why arguing over whose style is better.
@iApna On 2 separate occasions I've put guys down with a single punch and those punches were deliberately gauged to concuss and not kill. If you know anything about fighting you should know that when you hit a guy he can stumble backwards & remain standing, he can stumble back and fall or he will collapse downwards on the spot. The last one means that as soon as he got hit he was unconscious. If needs be that could very easily be gauged up to be a killing blow. Talking from experience on the st.
@theantichristproduct
Eye gouges, groin strikes, throat strikes, certain elbow strikes, kicking or kneeing the head of a grounded opponent and so on. You think these techniques are banned because they're ineffective?
@josh808m I love it too - but what do you do when the guy's friend shows up? ;p
@videosdatreta You said Yes for the comment or for the question about if you practice Jeet Kune Do? or both ?
@TheBallKeeper I know what you mean. I take Jeet Kune Do and I can honestly say the footwork has given me so much moving ability.
@iApna iApna u are muai tai fighter if i remember good.Tell me honestly.In a fight out of the ring u would use gramble and wrestle?Or your fast front kick or front punch?
@TheBallKeeper and FYI - compare WC hand position to that of BAREKNUCKLE boxers. Boxers cover their head the way they do because they have gloves on to help protect. The WC hand positioning actually makes it harder for your opponent as they can't "get inside" the stance the same way you can with a boxer.
You have made it very clear to me that you have never studied WC, and are a newbie to either boxing or Muay Thai.
You need to learn this - Boxing and MT are sports, WC is a fighting system.
@TheBallKeeper theres actually a 3rd movie without ip man in the title. I was only responding to your statement about the strongest punch though, because otherwise i agree, like bruce lee said you have to be fluid, like water.
@tekproxy it is also well known that students tend to "give" to their teachers when doing demonstrations. ..... what part am i reading wrong
@DizzyDerwish I'm guessing you consider your champion Yip Man - or possibly an older legend? Also, sorry if I came off rude. I meant no disrespect :)
All the top fighters are strikers, but are also very well rounded and can take the fight anywhere they want. I would say its evenly split between strikers and grapplers. You can't be a good striker without being a good grappler. A common technique used to come to your senses after being hit hard or being hurt is to grab your opponent. Most fighters are not 100% going into the match due to their extreme training regiment.
A fighter does not become the best by simply learning a certain style, a fighter becomes the best through training, conditioning, heart, and a willingness to learn. Anyone who says that one martial art is better than another is being ignorant. It is the combination of knowledge and technique that makes a fighter great.
"absorb what is useful, discard what is not, and add what is uniquely your own" Bruce Lee
@Limemill so is what i just said about wing chun. see when fighting you're not supposed to make a plan of things. things just happen. not everybody has "speed" and speed isn't necessary in wing chun. just power at a short distance.
@MultiBlasian a grappler will stand just out of range, move in fast when it appears safest, keep covered until they establish a grip, and once in a clinch, the efficacy of strikes is reduced due to the limited range. Except for Shawn Obasi, wing chun consistently loses to grappling.
@InTheWeedz No you wont, because this is a slowed demonstration, in full offense, wing chun is about shock and pushing forward constantly, when will you have room to "hook"?
@ssMajor825 The term 'kung fu' refers laragely to physical labor of any kind. Anybody who is skilled with their hands could be considered to practice 'kung fu', regardless of whether it's a martial art or not. The term wushu refers more directly to chinese martial arts in general, of which there are scores of different varieties, one of which is wing chun.
@TheBallKeeper there's one other point I missed (sorry) and it's pretty damn crucial. Contrary to perceptions, the trailing hand is never stationary. It often follows the elbow of the lead hand. When the lead hand is extended, the trailing hand is moving either forward, up, down, left or right or it's striking, depending on your opponents body language (the most skilled fighter can still be read like a book). If the trailing hand isn't deflecting or COVERING the head OR BODY then it is STRIKING.
@simonmafy i understand you. I practice Wing Chun (but just for 8 months...) and when i train sometimes, i feel some need to be a little more free, is that what you mean? (you practice Jeet Kune Do?)
@iApna ehhhh not exactly. I've done trapping within the muay Thai clinch and it works! Mostly jamming the arms up or covering them to get to the head and body. If you have good sensitivity you can swim/trace the other guy's arms alot better.
@TheBallKeeper Again, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just explaining the significance of tendon strength over muscle strength in terms of explosive power. Bruce Lee put emphasis on body mechanics & tendon strength while boxers put emphasis on body mechnics and muscle strength. Ask a boxer where does power come from, he'll say body mechanics and muscle. I've met many boxers, none of them refer to tendon strength. In fact not many people know about tendon strength.
I agree at the top end of Wing chun, Bill Gee Form; you are going for the soft body targets and the intention is to cease their operation or remove them from the victim, out reaching the opponent in the process.There is no room for that in rules and gloved fighting.
exactly, Wing chun is a deadly self defense system and most of its techniques are not allowed in competition.
@spikeydewd01
Problem is, a hook is quick - speed is its crucial feature - and is performed at short range, either after a dive under the opponent's arm, which instantaneously breaks the distance, or when you naturally approach your adversary after a sucessful combination of punches. It shouldn't be confused with a long-distance loopy punch, which takes a lot more time and is easier to predict and deflect by far. In fact, a hook is extremely difficult to avoid or block - even for professionals.
@valgez so in other words you don't know what demonstration means either?
@iApna Again I am puzzled when you tell me otherwise, that you use your head instead of your fists. The words clearly show a side that is totally different from what you are telling me. I have a hard time believe you would refrain entirely from conflict, and instead incite and invite it hoping for an opportunity to use it or at least prove to others of your effectiveness. So if it's not the art, then clearly it is the people that is the issue. Or am I totally missing it?
who is the grandmaster of wing chun or are there several?
@TheBallKeeper The point you were making was that Wing Chun was wrong because they don't punch as hard. The point I was making was that we don't need to.
I really think you need to study the system for a while then you'll get it. I came from a TKD, Muay Thai & Boxing background. It took a little time but once the penny dropped, I was hooked.
Enjoyable video. Thanks for sharing
@cheshirepat30 your right, i hear that all the time too.. people who never fight wing chunners
@iApna Respect to you. You sound swiched on. Every wing chun person who has learned the full system knows how to kill within 3 punches. When it comes to weapons the first cut would end the conflict. Again, I'm not taking anything away from MMA I just want to understand how an empty hand system (as used in the ring) can be more effective in a fight to the death vs a system which employs the use of two knives? I'm always open to learn new ideas/hear different points of view.
@cheshirepat30 Wing chun is extremely defensive. Even in limited range, wing chun is essentially the only technique that puts the one inch punch into actual combat. With limited range there is still force that can hit like a sledge hammer and it's faster too (wing chun punches are frequent)
@SkemeKOS Yeah that's true. Also with MMA fighters and boxers, their fighting style relies heavily on size and strength for grappling/endurance/heavy blows respectively. In contrast a good wing chun practitioner is generally small in build to help promote speed and fluidity. Wing chun doesn't use strength to over power the opponent. It uses balance, dominance and speed to make the opponents strength invalid. But it's like in the sequel "ip man 2" where he's fighting a boxer.
No need for name calling. My comment wasn't meant as being disrespectful to SiFu Fong or to your school. The point was that many don't understand these type of demonstrations and actually think Wing Chun teaches to fight using sticky hands. This leads to many people saying negative things about Wing Chun. I'm sure SiFu Fong wouldn't want you or I to be disrespectful to each other. So, I apologize that my comment wasn't worded in a more concise way.
who's the other guy that demonstrated with Mr Fong?
@iApna very good point. its definitely open to interpretation & yeh finding inspiration in muoy thai for adding techniques is something of a grey area i would think. i suppose what ip man (1 of the greatest kung fu grandmasters in history) set out to do was break the rigidity of tradition in this respect. when training for such radically unconventional techniques like high kicks, low punches, strikes from a distance etc. he probably used the same body mechanics as usual wing chun... somehow :P
@BlakesTutorial It can also be Yip man. Its just a different dialect. Kinda like Wing Chun and Ving Tsun
Who is this Sifu and where is he teaching ? Thank you
Alright you seem to have some training in martial arts. Say you were a soldier and wanted to take up a martial art, not for sport, but for real hand to hand combat with people with knives and guns, what martial art would be best suited for that sort of defense/offense.
@MiniBlueDragon
the problem is a lott of people don,t realize what they are doing is a exercise
i wish they explained more about what they are doing for people who dont know wing chun .. What they ar doing here is chi sau its a exercise to train your reflexes
and such