How To Setup an Urban Rappel and Other Emergency Rappelling Techniques

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  • Опубликовано: 6 апр 2014
  • Rappelling is an often underappreciated skill for use in an emergency situation and one that could potentially save your life one day. A common misconception of rappelling is that it's only for fun and thrill seekers of all kinds, but our hope is that after this video, you'll start to think more outside of the box about it and its applications.
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    Special thanks to Trident Response: www.tridentresponse.com/

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  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 2 года назад +1

    If you're watching this looking for specific techniques, go take a class, if you don't know anything about climbing, learn it somewhere else, this is not an intro course, but it is exactly what I was looking for

  • @bigmanbs1
    @bigmanbs1 8 лет назад +3

    At the end of the video, they were talking about knots to use to tie off on anchors. A simple bowline is not the knot to use for that application. However, a running bowline is ideal, as it will sinch tight around the anchor and will still untie easily after being loaded. The fisherman's knot that was demonstrated is a perfectly acceptable knot to use, however will get very difficult to untie after loading. And as always, back up the knots for added safety when lives are on the line. I hope this information is a help for someone!

  • @brucewayne-cave
    @brucewayne-cave 10 лет назад +3

    Outstanding video...!
    Since 9/11, when staying at tall hotels, I travel with my Fire Escape / Bail Out Bag.
    Containing:
    20' Aircraft cable (1/8") with double crimped eyelets for wrapping around the toilet, plumbing or _wall studs_; this gets the majority of the rope near the window and out of the hot room, 50' of NFPA 1983-E rescue rope, Figure 8, Harness, 4 over sized locking carabiners, 120cm open sling for a foot hold for extended hang time relief, 2 additional rope loops, head lamp, dive strobe light, whistle, a glass breaker tool, duct tape for smoke sealing the door. I also have a list of steps 1,2,3... to follow for safety in the heat of it all.
    This all packs nicely into a bright red stuff sack _(8"x18")_, which serves a dual purpose of daytime attention waving.

    • @billysm00th
      @billysm00th 3 года назад +1

      Wow
      .... youre legit..
      .. looks at username.... oh...

    • @AMC-eq3jr
      @AMC-eq3jr 11 месяцев назад

      You can definitely take your wife on the way down with this setup. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bessiah
    @bessiah 9 лет назад +2

    Great video. I always enjoy the pride and professionalism that goes into them. Thanks for educating us and keeping up safe and capable.

  • @AMC-eq3jr
    @AMC-eq3jr 11 месяцев назад

    Urban Survival 101: RIP for all those who died needlessly in fire situations. Their only option was to jump out the second floor window, or die in the fire. Fire professional will never give us this information, only to sell you the portable fire escape ladder that you hang out the window. Thanks for sharing this much needed information.

  • @michaelscarborough7011
    @michaelscarborough7011 2 года назад +3

    Water knots or overhand follow through actually tend to loosen if it is weighted and unweighted a lot. In climbing we are taught to leave a long tail because of this. Yes after you cinch the knot it can become hard if not almost impossible to undo but if it isn't weighted with a heavy load it DOES come loose easily.

  • @SumpinWong
    @SumpinWong 9 лет назад +28

    It must be cold inside (winter cap?)
    Too cool to remove my shades?

  • @jasonneumann1678
    @jasonneumann1678 7 лет назад

    Again... another great video showing rappelling. This is great advice and putting more tools in my toolbox. Getting my all hyped up in rappelling .... now I just need the equipment, but all i got is this swiss seat and locking carabiner lol....

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 3 года назад

    the excellent description of two non-locking carabiners

  • @wildfire53575
    @wildfire53575 10 лет назад +1

    nice vid! reminded me of my time as a firefighter. Every chance I had to do rope training I took, hose tower, stair way, apprentice bay, off the building, ladder truck you name it. practice makes perfect it also means the gear gets maintained, there were 5 of use certified in high angel, confined space and water rescue in a department of 35.

    • @wildfire53575
      @wildfire53575 10 лет назад

      It would be nice if you could cover recreational vs. pro certified gear "nfpa & osha". along with the differentness in rigging.

  • @raidenegbert8142
    @raidenegbert8142 7 лет назад

    The knot you tied for a single line rappel with four wraps, is that all I need to tie to my anchor point (tree trunk) to rappel? Or are there added saftey precautions that I should take besides putting it through my rappelling device?

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 2 года назад

    so, i ordered some 2" nylon axle straps to wrap around and use as part of an anchor system, i got some 24 and 36", think that will work? ima carabiner them to a riggers plate to single line climb or rappel

  • @kc329191
    @kc329191 9 лет назад

    Great job guys!

  • @Kyle_0317
    @Kyle_0317 4 года назад

    First off... to those whining about the video not being "McGuyver" enough, just Google how to make a harness/seat out of a rope (although I would not recommend doing it with zero climbing experience...if you're stuck in a burning hotel and your only experience is having browsed some RUclips vids, odds are youre gonna die from either fire or gravity) ... Nicely done in general and a nice refresher guys... when it comes to rigging, I've always felt it's one of those things that you cant watch enough of done correctly over and over again (no matter how simple or complex)... went thru II MEF SOTG Combat Rescue Climber & HRST Master school all the way back in 06' amongst a hundred other SOC courses/schools during my time as an SS with 2D MarDiV Special Operations Command and it was some of the best fun you could have in the Marines when it came to specialized training... def respect you guys put out this video and made a point of harping on safety and redundancy after everyy point... the average person most likely doesnt grasp how dangerous of a situation you put yourself in every time you clip in... did a climb in the mountains deployed in/around the horn of Africa (as much as I can say location wise) and it would have made the most season climbers blood run cold and throat drop out their ass... I know this video didnt go over a ton of knots but I see that you covered what would really lock well.... I would love to see a video giving a refresher on anchor knots ( but specifically knots that lock up under load but undo easily off load) many times when wed rap of a structure wether Urban or natural, we would have to be able to take the rope with us after the last rap and I would love to see a refresher vid of some knots/anchors that I remember would undo just by sending a quick wave/whip up the rope with a quick violent snap of the wrist... (that of course when you're also using the rope you're rapping down as anchor line and rap line and not using something else like the tubular/carabiner double as anchor)... that would be a fun video to see a few different methods.... also would love to see you guys do a video on some HRST Master/Helicopter Rope Suspension Techniques (or just covering Spy-Rigging at least!) Since that was the coolest part of the course.... that would be a sweet video for you guys since your videos are of a more tactical nature than the average climbing vid on RUclips.... Anyways, great job guys... keep up the good work!

  • @brendanallen9095
    @brendanallen9095 10 лет назад

    Great video,Thanks for the Information.

  • @Mechman0925
    @Mechman0925 6 лет назад

    Two questions: is the preference in using a dual line rappel is you can retrieve your rope from your anchor point? #2 in either a single or double line rappel would you not want to use a autoblock knot ( webbing or cordage) below the device so to allow a hands free option?

  • @indyjons321
    @indyjons321 10 лет назад

    can I substitute webbing for a short "round sling"? (a loop that is sheathed in nylon used for heavy lifting, typically rated for loads of 2,400 lbs choked/in its weakest configuration)

  • @jfunderburk1989
    @jfunderburk1989 10 лет назад

    What harnesses were you guys using? I recognize one as an Arc'teryx, but I don't know what the tan one was.

  • @TheIamfrustrated
    @TheIamfrustrated 10 лет назад

    Love it. Thank you!

  • @ttss5726
    @ttss5726 6 лет назад +2

    LOL cool vid but the tacticool beard and glasses just kill it.Just sitting here waiting for you guys to repel really fast while pulling out the ar's and doing the look right look left silliness

  • @V4_Colebrew
    @V4_Colebrew Год назад

    Good knowledge. What flavor gum, tho?

  • @LoxagosSnake
    @LoxagosSnake 8 лет назад +23

    So, I'm no rappelling expert but...we are talking emergency. Say I'm enjoying my espresso in a roof pool, a fire catches, and I have to escape. The techniques you are demonstrating...I mean, who carries actual climbing equipment everywhere they go? Don't get me wrong, that was pretty informational, but I was expecting rappelling with any piece of tough string I find, not a static line and carabiners, because it's an emergency!

    • @marcst-antoine4238
      @marcst-antoine4238 8 лет назад +8

      Knowing the risks associated with rappeling on tiny rope, i'd rather walk down the stairs on fire.

    • @leannebell4682
      @leannebell4682 8 лет назад +4

      I had emergency harness and rope with biners in my upstairs bedroom for an emergency lower if I ever had a fire. But I'm also a canyoneer and repell for fun. so, I do. I had a rig to lower my rotty too.

    • @pahwraith
      @pahwraith 5 лет назад +1

      Rock climbers...that's pretty much it haha.

    • @teobaric1109
      @teobaric1109 5 лет назад +2

      I carry climbing gear with me

    • @benjiboi6669
      @benjiboi6669 5 лет назад

      It’s mainly for military they carry rope

  • @rich105759
    @rich105759 10 лет назад

    Great video

  • @OhioPrepperOne
    @OhioPrepperOne 10 лет назад

    Great Job!

  • @modern-daypioneer2179
    @modern-daypioneer2179 5 лет назад +2

    In my climbing and repelling experience my opinion is you left out a great not. The Figure 8 knot/ traced 8. Knowing how to tie that knot when it comes to a rope you can use it for almost every situation from tying off an anchor to slinging around something two splicing ropes together..
    This was good information if somebody would ask me how to do things I would send them a link to this video to save me from explaining it lol

  • @kyleweedon5851
    @kyleweedon5851 6 лет назад +20

    A water knot is actually a follow through over hand knot, not square.

  • @lloydwhite3198
    @lloydwhite3198 3 года назад +1

    Best video for world traveller's. Fire and safety standards are almost non existent in some countries .

  • @_JuicyJ
    @_JuicyJ 6 лет назад +1

    Where are you guys located? Do you know of anywhere around Birmingham, AL that I could learn about climbing and rappeling skills? Thanks, Jason

    • @aaron.glidden
      @aaron.glidden 4 года назад

      Jason George if you’re still interested High Point climbing gym in Birmingham is a great place to learn about climbing

  • @johnsarangel3210
    @johnsarangel3210 8 лет назад +1

    fascinating. I only use a bowline or 8 loop for anchoring and it's only now I learned that a fisherman's knot could be used for single line rappel.

  • @wredstar
    @wredstar 10 лет назад

    i liked this alot! straight and to the point.

  • @clandestine736
    @clandestine736 7 лет назад +3

    I always use staircase railings or simply loop my rope on the parapet as some have small openings as anchor when urban rappelling. They're rigid as hell and easily available.

    • @gwenevere501
      @gwenevere501 7 лет назад +2

      Kaiser Ritter As a certified RAT, I'd advise you try and use stair structural beams and never the railing. If your using parapet gaps, check if that parapet is concrete, some aren't. Some will crumble under static weight.

  • @supernova8962
    @supernova8962 Месяц назад

    Hello everyone, Can anyone help me ? Six Flags has a rock climbing device that when you fall .... it slowly lowers you down back to the ground. Do anyone know what that is call and where i can buy one for practicing rock climbing.

  • @futhermucker1
    @futhermucker1 10 лет назад

    >>>Very high speed stuff guys! Great communication. Keep it stupid simple.Right on!

  • @DemetrisForever
    @DemetrisForever 10 лет назад +1

    Would a second anchor point, like climbers use, be an option for an emergency repel?

    • @cascadianrangers728
      @cascadianrangers728 2 года назад +1

      Depending on how emergent the emergency is...a backup is always good, and the only reason not to is time or equipment...but I can imagine some situations so grave there would be no time to rig a backup, but others where you could take your time...You gotta make that call on the ground, if you're so scared you don't wanna tie up a backup, you probably should just gtfo

  • @alphagrendel
    @alphagrendel 10 лет назад +19

    I'm really not sure what this video is teaching. I guess if you have ALL that equipment and time to set up this (rather elaborate) system with you at the time of needing to bail-out it would be alright, but the community would be much better served by showing the same operation performed with a minimum of equipment. I would love to see you perform the same actions with a riggers belt, a single carabiner and 50' piece of prusik cord or dyneema using a Munter hitch.
    I realize your example would be a better system for going over 40+ feet or so, but in an urban environment how many times are you on something taller than that?

  • @Elmnopen
    @Elmnopen 9 лет назад +18

    constantly referring to things that are blocked by your hands, constantly, and referring to "this device" does not help. I appreciate the effort, but...

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 3 года назад +1

    Kyle is so comfortable taking some weight off by placing his feet on the beam. Good job and controlling movement.

  • @heighperformance
    @heighperformance 10 лет назад +7

    Can you explain why the webbing is tied as a girth hitch around the beam instead of simply slinging it over the beam and attaching the carabiner to both ends of the webbing?

    • @jakemyboy72
      @jakemyboy72 10 лет назад

      Could it be because of the cinching part :-)

    • @heighperformance
      @heighperformance 10 лет назад +3

      It could be.....but it would put pressure on 4 edges instead of just two. Typically the 1" webbing on a single pull is rated for 4000 lb (roughly) In our department we typically will simply place the webbing over the beam to minimize additional stress on the rope or webbing. I did note that in the video you did mention that it was important that the anchor was static....

    • @hardwaylearnt
      @hardwaylearnt 10 лет назад +6

      heighperformance The way you described (two ends of the webbing attached to the carabiner and the rope) creates a 3 way cross-loading of the carabiner. The carabiner is much weaker in that configuration and it should NEVER be used that way. It's strength is finite.
      A girth hitch is also a very poor choice for rescue work but OK for single-climber sport climbing. In rescue work it is generally accepted that you always do your best to maintain a 10:1 static safety factor. A girth hitch configuration reduces the strength of the webbing by 1/2 inside the knot because of a load amplification effect that occurs in each strand in the knot because of the doubling of the material over itself.
      The math for safety factor looks like this: 1KN/climber:10 KN static strength of the weakest component as used. 1 inch tubular webbing has a static strength of about 17 to 18KN(unknotted) That is reduced to 9 KN when you use a girth hitch because a girth hitch is a 1/2 strength reduction. Also both girth hitches were interdependent not isolated. So with one climber you invaded the 10:1 static safety factor. You want at least this safety factor because as the parts of any system move the dynamic forces can be many times the static forces.
      It is always better to only practice the strongest ways to use your materials so that you always have the strongest systems you can. A wrap 3 pull 2 or wrap 2 pull 1 knot-isolating anchor is far superior to any setup used in this video. Any of the anchors used in this video could easily reach failure on a two climber fall. Something that is possible when you start talking about rescue work. They were not advocating using the anchors for two climbers but the setups left no option for recovery if even a minor hiccup happened that required one buddy to help the other.

    • @heighperformance
      @heighperformance 10 лет назад

      HardWayLearnt thanks for the added info. what you have described is nearly identical to how we run things on our rope rescue team....it is rare that we would use webbing as an anchor anyways typically we are running rated straps for anchors....

    • @hardwaylearnt
      @hardwaylearnt 10 лет назад +2

      heighperformance I spent almost 10 years in SAR and trained extensively in rope rescue. I have seen many people trained incorrectly on the use of carabiners. Many Fire services train their people to use straps with sewn loops and to clip a carabiner into both loops and clip the rope into the same carabiner. This is unsafe. 3 way loading a carabiner is common (but wrong) with the use of pre sewn straps so watch out for it.
      The other common mistake with pre sewn loops is running one end of the strap through the loop at the other end then clipping into that. This is the same as creating a girth hitch. It is a 1/2 reduction in the strength of the strap. If you account for the reduction of strength when calculating your safety factor you can do it safely but usually it weakens your system too much. You are much better off joining the ends with a carabiner then clipping the rope to a place on the strap (full strength with the lower loop strength.) Better still if you isolate the carabiner from the load (full strength removing the weaker loop strength.) By wrapping your strap 3 times around your anchor, then pulling two of the strands and clipping to that leaving the carabiner (or knot if using webbing) against the anchor facing your load side. This uses friction to isolate the sewn ends of the strap as well as the carabiner from the load force.

  • @Elliosh4
    @Elliosh4 7 лет назад +8

    The only knot for webbing acceptable for life support is the water knot. There is no need for any backup knot as the knot tightens when pulled. Obviously leave a couple inches of tail. Same with the figure 8 on a bight or figure 8 follow through. The "back up" knot commonly used for climbing on a figure 8 does absolutely nothing. The rope always breaks on the first bend in the knot. The figure 8 on a bight is a non slip knot..so it won't slip. People do this why? because many climbers/rappellers do it and it's been done for so long that there is a stigma against not using the back up knot.
    For belay/rappel devices some are good some are awful. The 8 device twists the rope. Get a device that doesn't, such as an ATC or tube style belay/rappel device or a rappel rack. Why do you see so many 8 devices? because the users don't know about any other devices and don't know any better. The 8 device is meant for military/swat use when rapid entry is needed. Recreational rappelling is not and should not be rapid. Even emergency rappelling can and should be thought out.
    I could say more, but the information in this video needs to be rethought. Please seek qualified instruction before you get hurt. Bad information leads to bad practice leads to bad accidents.
    Final thought, before you do anything dangerous ask yourself this-
    How do I know what I know and why?

    • @wyattpeterson2784
      @wyattpeterson2784 7 лет назад +1

      yea well you can fall off a cliff because you're too ignorant to tie a back up knot. take your own advice dude.
      "Bad information leads to bad practice leads to bad accidents."

    • @bonitabatty3951
      @bonitabatty3951 7 лет назад

      Elliosh4

    • @gwenevere501
      @gwenevere501 7 лет назад +2

      Wyatt Peterson Just a little advice, I'm a certified RAT. In my course, the only 2 backup knots they tell you to use are on the bowline (which we don't even use) and when joining 2 ropes together. Backup knots on a water knot or figure 8, are only simply to keep the tail out of the way if you tied it too long, not for safety.
      For me, it's not about being arrogant when I don't tie back up knots. It's about saving time, on useless mythical 'backups', on their figure 8's.
      People should focus more on dressing their knots, rather than backing them up when their not necessary

    • @wyattpeterson2784
      @wyattpeterson2784 7 лет назад

      gwenevere501 I'm not trying to down your certification or anything like that, and I agree for the most part a back up knot on knots like such are more to keep the tail together if you tied it long so it doesn't catch, but I'm sure it also does a bit to keep the tail from slipping back through into the knot. you say you don't to save time on something that's redundant, but isn't redundancy one of the biggest things with knots in climbing? is saving 10 seconds if that to tie a back up knot really worth the 10 months recovery on the off chance it does slip and you fall? assuming you even live depending on the height

    • @gwenevere501
      @gwenevere501 7 лет назад

      Wyatt Peterson Thats the beauty with knots that cinch up. They do pull in that tail slightly, but that also helps absorb high impacts from shocking the whole system. When you tie a tight stopper knot on the end, assuming you're adding extra precautions. You're actually taking that slip advantage away. A figure 8 will never come undone, if dressed well and has a reasonable (10cm minimum) tail to accompany it. Your biggest concerns are elsewhere, like the knot just blowing all together (far more likely than the tail sucking in)
      People need to focus more on dressing a knot, rather than trying to make room for a stopper, because when it comes down to it, a well dressed knot with an appropriate tail will out perform a knot with a backup knot.
      That's said. I'm quite nitty gritty with fine tuning my rigging. But I've seen some other riggers who make a sloppy setup and they still haven't blown, even with undressed knots, without back ups.
      But in my opinion, there's always that 'what if' and there's also such thing as too much.
      "If you can't tie a knot, tie a lot" comes to mind when I see people doubt and back up knots unnecessarily

  • @adamsplaysmc8239
    @adamsplaysmc8239 10 лет назад +1

    I know this is probably a really obvious question, but I heard you say the only reason you're not using the black rope was for visibility, but the way you said it made it sound like you can't rappel on a dynamic rope. I was wondering wether or not I can rappel on a dynamic rope. I am looking into climbing and have everything I need except a good rope. I have been looking at a dynamic rope to use for mostly rappelling and some climbing. I need to know if I can use a dynamic rope to rappel or if I should look at a static rope instead for rappelling. Thanks for the vid though. I would really appreciate it if you would make more climbing/rappelling vids.

    • @Shadow0Lurker
      @Shadow0Lurker 10 лет назад +2

      If you are looking to rappel or ascend only (not climbing) then static is what you are looking for. You can rappel on dynamic rope but not for frequent and long descents. If you are looking to climb then only use dynamic rope as falling on static can cause catastrophic injury to yourself.

    • @adamsplaysmc8239
      @adamsplaysmc8239 10 лет назад

      Thanks for your reply so soon. I have bought a dynamic rope and have not used it so I can take it back if need be. I am in school so it would only get used on breaks so I'm not sure what to do. It would get used for only rappelling until I get more gear. I need to know if it's bad for the rope to rappel on a dynamic or just easier on a static since it doesn't stretch? Thanks I would appreciate a reply please

    • @vb6041
      @vb6041 9 лет назад

      Adamsplaysmc Go ahead and use the dynamic rope, but get someone to properly teach you. I rock and ice climb and rappel all the time on the dynamic rope I use for my general climbing.

    • @M4tt1mus
      @M4tt1mus 7 лет назад

      Long rappels on a dynamic climbing rope can cause sheath slippage reducing the longevity of your rope.

  • @M4tt1mus
    @M4tt1mus 7 лет назад +2

    I thought you should load the anchor before unhooking from your personal protection? knotting the end of the rope is important imo so you don't rappel off the end. Many people are seriously injured or killed from rappelling off the end of the rope.

  • @tobiashasskvist2264
    @tobiashasskvist2264 4 года назад +6

    ”Make sure it looks like this” 😂

  • @redeinternational
    @redeinternational 10 лет назад +1

    Please more rigging rope work.

  • @GuapoVino
    @GuapoVino 4 года назад +1

    Not sure why you would girth hitch the blue webbing like that. Better to basket hitch it so no loss of strength compared to the girth hitch. I’d recommend testing your rappel device while still on a tether or PAS.

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 3 года назад

    Tree climbers static lines are our way. All applied energy applied upward for the climb and easy repel with no sudden stops. Sudden on static is dam sudden.

  • @tomvana4270
    @tomvana4270 9 месяцев назад

    Yeah I’ll just happen to have climbing gear with me. Must be some kind of fantasy of climbers to be in this situation.

  • @slayersmsJr
    @slayersmsJr 10 лет назад

    Could you post some techniques for keeping your rope after you descend? In other words knots that are secure with weight but can come undone so you can recover your rope.

    • @stealz5000
      @stealz5000 10 лет назад

      just use the double line rappel, only slinging your line around the object you rappel from. obviously it should have some stop or something on the end so the rope cant be yanked off. once youre down just remove it from your carabiner and pull on one side. You could do the same with the 2 carabiners and the tubular webbings, but you would lose those 4 items then.
      My guess is though if you dont know how to rappel without leaving your rope up there you probably shouldnt, since thats very basic stuff. maybe you should do a course.

    • @nicks1159
      @nicks1159 7 лет назад

      slayersmsJr no

  • @RAMA-gu8cs
    @RAMA-gu8cs 3 года назад

    i know its like emergency only type thing but hanging on the celling look fun you guys look likes just vibing there

  • @darkmummy9
    @darkmummy9 10 лет назад +1

    Great stuff, only thing I would say is you should never unclip the belay device. Kind of sucks if your on a ledge and something stupid happens so it falls off.

  • @tituspullo9210
    @tituspullo9210 6 лет назад +1

    Wow....you guys are sooo tactical and coool (sarcasm)

  • @AerodynamicBrick
    @AerodynamicBrick 10 лет назад

    can you post a web link to buy tubular webbing here on on your web site

  • @DS-Outdoors
    @DS-Outdoors 9 лет назад +13

    should never use a sling with a girth hitch, it substantially reduces the strength. Think of the general rule equalized anchors 60-90 degrees and then look at the angle that the girth hitch creates with the sling....

    • @xcreeseseater38
      @xcreeseseater38 6 лет назад +1

      Yes you are correct!!!
      By using a girth hitch like that you REDUCE the kn rating of a line by 50%!!!! So if you had a sling rated for 24kn by simply using the girth hitch you now only have a line rated to 12kn.
      the ideal degree angle is 90 degrees or less for the anchors. By having an anchor at 120 degrees you INCREASE the tension on BOTH anchors by 150%!!
      There is a great video on all the climbing math which I just so happened to watch right before this video which goes into all this and how to increase the ratings of your lines when making anchors etc.
      ruclips.net/video/8Ic9ipgP6n0/видео.html

  • @stephendehart9777
    @stephendehart9777 5 лет назад +1

    Usually, if you demonstrate something, you have your camera situated so as to actually show what you are talking about and not at a distance.

  • @jeffm9227
    @jeffm9227 4 года назад +1

    A "cinching" anchor doesn't always make sense because you're not getting any equalization. If your body needs to move side to side during rappel (e.g. due to obstacles) you will be putting uneven tension on different sides of the anchor. Your body weight should prevent the anchor from slipping up over the anchor itself. If you're concerned that it might slip up and over you might want to look for another anchor. I highly recommend watching Rich Carlson's video on single point anchors: ruclips.net/video/AnmXYr0xzCE/видео.html

  • @jamestwilkes
    @jamestwilkes 10 лет назад

    A beer knot is a preferred knot over a water knot. Additionally its very sketchy to repel without some sort of back up such as auto-block.

  • @1stFlyingeagle
    @1stFlyingeagle 3 года назад

    you should of showed how you transferred from your holding hardware to actually repelling lines.

  • @CoralsAustralia
    @CoralsAustralia 6 лет назад +3

    I always take my gear when travelling better be safe than sorry

  • @AWDsome08
    @AWDsome08 10 лет назад

    Forgot how to make a seat in case you did not have a pre fab bed one. First thing I learned at Rappel School.

  • @garymccreath2773
    @garymccreath2773 3 года назад +1

    Cold & sunny in that room was it?hence the hat & sunglasses , suppose you are an "operator" get a grip

  • @ropeskills101
    @ropeskills101 Год назад

    So many things wrong or missleading, where to start???

  • @glennalexon1530
    @glennalexon1530 3 года назад +2

    In case it's not obvious... these guys don't know what they're doing. There are good videos from mountain guides that show proper rigging, rope-handling, etc... Of special emphasis: steel studs under drywall are never safe to rappel from, even in an emergency. There are plenty of more secure anchors in a hotel room.

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 Год назад +1

      Yup, that's what I thought as well (former climbing instructor, 18 years of experience in rock/ice/mountain climbing and SRT in caving). They didn't give any bad advice, as in dangerous ones, but not really correct either.

  • @stealz5000
    @stealz5000 10 лет назад +2

    you should maybe mention to put a knot in the ends when using double line rappel, in case the rope is uneven or runs unevenly. since if you lose one side you will fall like a rock

  • @cmill8465
    @cmill8465 6 лет назад +1

    The cameras weren't positioned properly closeups were pointless...

  • @CoralsAustralia
    @CoralsAustralia 6 лет назад +3

    22:25 didn't like this please be an absolute expert before teaching others thanks

  • @scottriley8080
    @scottriley8080 6 лет назад

    Water knot? How about a square knot with two half-hitches?

  • @69adrummer
    @69adrummer 6 лет назад +1

    I just saw a video of yours explaining the math of climbing and you say the girth hitch reduced the line strength by 50%...and here you use it....haha wth?

    • @kriskringus2191
      @kriskringus2191 4 года назад

      Climbing stuff is meant to be bomber as hell for that reason. That webbing is rated to pick up a truck

  • @chrishardy6471
    @chrishardy6471 4 года назад +1

    A lot of issues with this entire video... if you’re here to learn how to rappel watch an AMGA or SIET video and adapt from them as needed. Not saying everything here was wrong but there are much better options. Like girth hitching your anchor around the sharp corner of an I beam is hardly ideal conditions for rapping smh

  • @timjanda13
    @timjanda13 10 лет назад

    You did not show how to clip on single line

  • @inov8ve
    @inov8ve 10 лет назад

    Arrg... You didn't show how to set up the figure 8 or double barrel with a single line.

    • @leannebell4682
      @leannebell4682 8 лет назад

      a figure 8 in this case would lead you into a spin on your descent. best not to use a fig 8 on this type of rapell

  • @9007
    @9007 6 лет назад +4

    This is a bunch of stupid personal recomendations taken from experience and unsafe techniques.

  • @thundershepherd8996
    @thundershepherd8996 3 года назад

    My only question is how tf they get up there

  • @wildairsoft1
    @wildairsoft1 9 лет назад +2

    Do you people hate single line or what

  • @kylestratton6024
    @kylestratton6024 7 лет назад +2

    If you're going to try and instruct an unknown audience on something that is unquestionably dangerous; it would behoove you to include and emphasize safety. Your video is assuming that you're in an emergency situation, (people aren't known for thinking clearly in these situations) yet you fail to mention the use of backup knots on the end of your rope so you don't rap off the ends (resulting in certain injury or death), or using a backup to your belay device so if you freak out and take your hand off the brake strand you don't free fall (which would also result in serious injury, if not death) prussik is pretty easy, and is the standard. However you DO tell them to unscrew their screwgate....the absurdity of this statement is impossible for me to comprehend. If you're having an issue with your screwgate 'biners locking up on you (you can't unscrew them) tell your viewers to invest in higher quality screwgate 'biners, not to unscrew them.

    • @jeanjacket5206
      @jeanjacket5206 Год назад

      Thank you, I also thought that was absurd and wildly concerning.
      I have only been an indoor climbing instructor for less than a year (don’t even have CWI lol) and I thought a lot of this was questionable. I hope everybody does their due diligence and takes a class and reads an actual climbing book about building anchors.

    • @jeanjacket5206
      @jeanjacket5206 Год назад

      I feel like I should elaborate. A lot of people have touched on girth hitching (try a sliding x with knots on both sides for redundancy on nylon instead. Or any other Appropriate knot/hitch with the material it will do best with), but I am also worried about ‘screw down to not screw up’. If you are properly tightening your carabiner this should not be an issue; though it is good to make sure no ropes or slings run across the gate in a way to accidentally loosen/open it (which shouldn’t happen anyway if it is properly loaded). Not to mention you can use a different type of locker if you are really worried about it, like tri-action.
      But what really worries me is that they are saying it is ok to rappel off of non-locking carabiners! That is not and never should be an acceptable method, regardless of opposite and opposed!! That system can and will fail. I also don’t like that the anchor building they recommend only uses one place to attach their slings, but I will admit that the steel beam isn’t going anywhere. It is best practice to always attach to two separate things minimum when building an anchor, if given the opportunity.
      Regardless, I think this video has a misguided view towards emergency situations. I don’t think that the takeaway should be to get away with it however you can. Though there will certainly be situations where you might have to do sketchy things, you shouldn’t set out to be sketchy from the start. Redundancy has always been top priority in climbing and rappelling. If you have the time to set up a rappel, you have the time to set that rappel up properly. Especially if you are going to evacuate other people!! Above all else, please respect your life. If you don’t, you might not have one to respect for long. Not saying that to be mean, but to be factual. Mistakes can be and have been fatal.

  • @nerdydad8544
    @nerdydad8544 2 года назад

    whos running around in an office setting with a harness and a belaying device??

  • @austpem
    @austpem 10 лет назад

    Can you show how to repel with only 1 rope - nothing else? no caribs, etc..

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 3 года назад

    You fail a water knot is NOT a square knot.

  • @johnlbales2773
    @johnlbales2773 6 лет назад +1

    Two cooks, one broth. Not good. You two are stepping on and over each other. That makes the lesson scrambled. One guy gives the lesson & shows how the method of operation is to be applied: start to finish. If you are unsure of your expertise or you are extending a professional courtesy and invite a guest, then let the guest run his own demo. It's ok to touch on the bullet points before doing the video, but don't mess with another mans routine. You still have post to edit your hearts content. FYI. Not trolling. I've been a systems instructor. Did it for years. I'm trying to sharpen up your delivery. All the best to you.

  • @tyroneemail
    @tyroneemail 7 лет назад

    Girth hitch bad, there are many other ways to do this without weakening your rigging by 50%

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 7 лет назад

    follow throw overhand knot. the sad thing is most the people tat watch your video have no clue, Rambo syndrome. they at risk.

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 7 лет назад +4

    this is dangerous for your audience they mostly haven't a clue.

  • @hksjoshua
    @hksjoshua 5 лет назад

    That intro is so extra

  • @RSpuhl
    @RSpuhl 4 года назад +1

    Appreciate your presentation while gnawing on your gum...NOT!

  • @frankwoods135
    @frankwoods135 7 лет назад

    Oh shit my house is on fire it's a good thing I have climbing gear that takes me half an hour to put on Oh yeah and make sure you secure three different lines while your home is on fire come on nobody is gonna have that much time if there is no exits and your home is burning

    • @jasonneumann1678
      @jasonneumann1678 7 лет назад

      Advice.... try to live on the first floor... problem diverted. And if you want something quick, try tying a swiss seat. Should be done under 90 seconds, if not sooner.

    • @frankwoods135
      @frankwoods135 7 лет назад

      I know what a Swiss seat is and I can't just move out of my apartment I'm not rich like in an emergency on the second floor I'm securing the line and climbing down by hand dude your not gonna have any time to do all that in 60s your house could blow the fuck up

    • @jasonneumann1678
      @jasonneumann1678 7 лет назад

      Wasn't going for if you didn't know what a Swiss seat was. Just going for options. If living on second floor, might be able to get a collapsible ladder to hook into window and then roll it down to first floor, if you had to. That could be set up and engaged in 10.....as long as its pre-planned. Could pick one up cheap for $30....just another option...no worries man

  • @user-tz4nk5sk8b
    @user-tz4nk5sk8b 2 года назад +1

    It's hard to trust anything said by a guy who chews gum whilst delivering a training video, in my opinion. Also, I feel the whole presentation moves was too slowing and didn't actually start from scratch, think more proceedurally before re-shooting this session please.

  • @kyleweedon5851
    @kyleweedon5851 7 лет назад

    Why

  • @motobacktoconstitution4138
    @motobacktoconstitution4138 3 года назад

    Sorry Video too far

  • @TheSecondWitness
    @TheSecondWitness 6 лет назад +1

    Not a very good video at all. Just spit it out man! You talk and talk and it’s like pulling teeth trying to get the info. In the end, nothing learned...

  • @nunyabeezwax8309
    @nunyabeezwax8309 6 лет назад +1

    This video should be taken down, you guys are opening yourselves up to way too much liability and more importantly some kid is going to see you guys looking all tacticool and assume that means that you guys know what you were talking about and the kid is going to get hurt by practicing your bad techniques.