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In today's world where insults, manipulation,mind games, grudge and other things is a common place, being kind is extraordinary. It's what separates you from other people. The act of being kind is an extension of self. People misinterpret kindness for weakness. I've always been taught how to be kind to people. Tapping into empathy rather than a fake sweet approach is more authentic and is what I live my life by. Thanks!
Well said Dora, and thanks for helping me realise another aspect of what true revolution involves. To have influence over intolerable situations, (instead of avoiding conflict or being a victim of injustice ect), I needed to understand that in times of universal DECEIT and LIES, speaking the truth becomes a REVOLUTIONARY act. Now, I can see that being KIND, in times of rampant CRUELTY, is ALSO a revolutionary thing to do!
@@tonyarmstrong8291 Kindness is the highest form of intelligence. The act of being kind is innate. It cannot b implanted into someone's mind or behaviour. Likewise it cannot be separated from people possessing it. People who are kind have their own emanation of good vibes which has the power to enliven and vitalise other people's life as well. Albeit in this world we come across myriad experiences which may put us in dismay and force to cogitate if being too kind is BAD?? Well the problem begins when being too kind becomes inevitable for us and OTHER PEOPLE START TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
@@Dora-wc8beHow kind is 'too kind'? True kindness cannot be taken advantage of. Because it is based in truth. If you feel you've been taken advantage of, whatever you did was not done in the spirit of true kindness.
I’m a simple guy so I have a simpler interpretation. When approached by sales persons my wife tends to lead them on giving them false hope of a sale she has intention of ( 5 min conversation)-that’s being “nice”. I tell them upfront I appreciate their effort and expertise but aren’t in the market allowing them to move on to fertile prospects (10 sec conversation)- that’s being “kind”.
This realization hit me HARD after 40. I made no distinction between kind and nice up until I faced an inevitable and painful consequence. Being nice is not a virtue, it eats away at you over time, and it can grow into a pretty big ego. One tip that has helped me and might help others - you might overestimate the amount of time other people spending thinking about what you say and do. In all likelihood they are moving on much sooner than you realize. Be honest, speak up, and let it go. There is tremendous freedom for you on the other side. This was a very powerful lesson, thanks so much.
I came to a point of my life that I focus on my well-being first. If I am safe and wish to help others, I will do so. Before, I was helping following the concept you mentioned and was giving to people who only take, take with the victim mentality. I was raised in that, so I thought it was normal. It almost took my life out, because I felt I was not good enough to even help them. Now only help if I feel safe and feel it's the right thing to do for me I shall help.
Completely agree. It's easy to ask for/say to help from a place of neediness or ample abundance/strength. For the rest of us who have just enough for ourselves if even that, giving comes at an irredeemable cost and isn't affordable unless you are getting something invaluable in return.
The etymology of "nice" comes from Latin "nesciens", non-knowing. "Nice" has become a plague for certain elements of society. There ought to be a DSM section on hyper-agreeableness. Gets "nice" people into deep trouble.
4:14 -🎯I think enabling is the right word, and it's endemic in our culture these days. Another good description might be toxic empathy. Your example of San Fran is spot on.
TOXIC EMPATHY. YES. As someone whom has a bit of a diminished capacity, for emotional empathy - all this empathy being thrown around every second, drives me INSANE. Have I learned it has it’s place and how to use it? Yes. Especially after what I have survived. I call it “effective empathy.” However, it drives me insane when I have to cater to people’s empathy - when it’s necessary to be empathetic to their empathy. UGH. It’s so annoying. Especially, in casual, small-talk circumstances.
It's not empathy, rather it's apathy. It's not caring if someone self-destructs because you find your own self-righteousness and self-perception of being "nice" to be more important than their actual well-being.
Honesty is the greatest form of kindness in my opinion. Anyone can say nice words, but very few people are willing to tell you the bitter truth, watch you fall apart, and then standing by to help you pull yourself together and build you up into a better, stronger version of yourself. I sincerely encourage everyone to try this, it’s incredibly difficult to do but it’s worth it. Now with that said, I do encourage people to find ways to deliver the truth in ways that aren’t as damaging. I’m starting to learn how important it is to do that, no need to be more blunt than you already are.
I took a vow of honesty in 1993. My philosophy is, i'd rather tell the Truth and chance their tears, than to lie to them just to see a smile. Some say I have no filter, I just don't sit by when I see someone getting hurt.
The point about people being complicit in their suffering is 100% spot on. If you are completely a victim then you remove yourself from the power to change your situation, if you can take responsibility for your situation, even if you are not responsible for the circumstances of your situation then you give yourself the option to make that situation better and take control of what is happening to you.
Great video, Dr Taraban. Thanks for making it. I've had this experience recently and had to walk away from it. To help a friend I carefully and lovingly (and privately) confronted them about their change of character and bad habits they had taken up. Nobody else wanted to address it properly and it caused a rather narcissistic reaction from them. They apologised (years) later but it was mostly about wanting the benefits of a good friend without the corresponding responsibility such entails. This was confirmed when they started trying to triangulate me with the "nice" people who saw the destructive path they were on but said nothing, actually encouraged it Oh well, God knows my heart. People, stay chaos free in 2023!
This is the first time in my life I understood what “be kind to yourself” means. Everybody says it, my therapist said it, and I have some vague notions of it, but didn’t know what it was concretely. Turns out, I am not kind to myself lol but now I can learn to be! Thanks!
Struggling atm with my spouse who has bipolar. They have self medicated with cannabis which put them in a manic state. They left the house about 2 months ago in the middle of the night and has been living out of their car with some homeless guy they picked up. Homeless guy has been enabling my spouse, telling them that they are fine when they clearly are not while smoking cannabis and not taking their meds (they missed several appt with psychiatrist). My spouse is self destructing from their mental illness. They are refusing to go get treatment, refusing to acknowledge their illness and destroying their relationships with their family. Their father and sister has broken off all contact with them due to their verbal abuse. Not knowing what else to do, I ended up calling the police when my spouse lightly punched me during a verbal altercation in our front yard. They are in jail right now BUT they are in the psych ward getting their much needed meds and getting off the cannabis. My spouse wasn't going to seek help otherwise and I was afraid of what would happen if I let their mental illness run its course. Was my getting the police involved the right move?
Yes , they would have gone farther downhill without your intervention, and taken your sanity with them , it is not your job to try to fix another at the expense of your well being ,
I have been hammered on this point. Giving my friend hell for snorting too much coke. I wasnt nice, I was mad and trying to stop them from killing themselves. I hope they believe me when I say, "I care about you"
I no longer concern myself with being kind. I concern myself with being fair. I will lose sleep over that if a feel I have fallen short, but I never lose sleep over whether I was kind enough. I don't go out of my way to be hurtful either.
It's about whether one judges actions by how they make you FEEL, or what the final RESULT is. Things that produce good results rarely feel good, and chasing good feelings doesn't lead to good results. It's the difference between enjoying chocolate, or enjoying the fruits of exercise.
Someone who lived on both the west & east coast once said, "People who live in New York City are very kind, but they are not nice. While those who live in LA are very nice, but they're not kind." I understood exactly what he meant.
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS) Nice is in Fact a Self-centered Behavior Pattern Where Eu r Acting in a Pleasing Way so az to Get PPL to Like Eu r to Avoid Conflict KIND is an Other-Oriented Behavior where Eu Demonstrate that Eu can Act in the Best Interested of Others
It was the hardest thing I've ever done to confront a loved one's destructive addiction with kindness, yet recusing to participate in enabling his downward spiral. Thanks for reinforcing that I did what needed to be done, consequences be damned. It was hard, but necessary.
One thing I would change about this video, kindly, is removing the mellow dia/monologue about how you understand someone with addiction All things being equal, I think it's about “introducing cats” into the equation For instance, my mother used to smoke for a few years which I deemed inappropriate, especially given that she shares room with her daughter who has explicitly expressed her dislike for the smell that comes from her mother whenever she comes from a staircase My “strategy” has included periodic ridicule mixed with rather "aggressive" (ironically so but perceived as such) dialogues from me from time to time I didn't exactly “calculate” anything in advance but this actually happened to work and she is now smoke free for a couple of months I'm not a very big believer in explaining something to people who don't wanna listen unless there's something for them, especially to lose (I'm leaning towards thinking you're right about negative stimulus being more powerful to humans) Another perk of my approach is that I get to justly troll the people I'm happening to be kind to, so there's some fun for me aswell
My parents and family destroyed my life, sucked the life out of me, drove me to self destruction, stood by as I self destructed and kicked me while I tried to change my life and help them while I was at it. They have the nerve to tell me they love me. Honestly, only one friend tried to say something to me.
There has got to be a point where those should be on a bit the wrongdoing without worrying about their self image, or their self image was like in the past…. We don’t ever see enough of that, but I’m glad to see that you went through what you did and had a friend like that.. I have a friend right now I’m will never even listen to that one friend never for the sake of herself or kids or anything .. Thank you for posting this and I hope you have a fantastic week
I agree. There are many situations when we must do something. And much more, than we usualy do. But there are extreem examples too. I had a patient dying in acut on chronic liver disease caused by alkohol. I asked, what happened. He locked him up in his room with only alkohol and without food or any other drink, and drank himself close to death. His wife didn't do anything, it happened other times too, and he is not somebody to talk with in situations like this. She was even afraid to call help until he was no longer contious. Did she love him? Yes, I know she did. Wasn't she stupid? Yes, she was, she could call help, but she was also afraid, and tired, and she is not a strong personality. Can I judge her? I couldn't. So it is always important, not to judge anyone, but tell everyone the truths, show their duties, and teach them. May your channel always be a space of truth, love and kindness, as it is, how I see. Thank you.
I am binge watching your videos, I wish I had found them sooner! You really have a gift at explaining this stuff. This is slightly off topic for this video but perhaps could be a future video. I am struggling to find how one can be kind but not be seen as weak. As an example, I could be kind to one of my employees as they are going through a difficult time. Almost immediately others will start acting up and trying to push the boundaries too. I have to make an example of one person before the rest get back into line. Any ideas on how one can be kind without coming across as weak?
I’ll be honest with you. That sounds a little silly that being kind to one employee makes the others act poorly. But even if that is the case, all you have to to is maintain the standard if they start acting silly or pushing your boundaries. If those people think being kind is a weakness, you have to show them it’s not. Meaning that you don’t fold or let them take advantage of that.
Single man here and gotta say, I really like this channel. It’s pretty much red pill, while simultaneously being diplomatic. Thanks for the info and glad to learn from it.
Glad you're railing on San Franshitsco. You know what is not kind 4500 a month for a single bed apartment there. Those areas claim to be nice but have the most human suffering.
Agree and disagree, if someone asks for it, show kindness, if someone on his/her way tk destroy them, better avoid them unless you wanna be dragged with them with allegations l/charges
Yeah this type of kindness takes courage. Not everyone is willing or secure enough in themselves to go out on a limb and point out what is going wrong in others' lives. Because then they will likely retort in what they see as a similar fashion. In other words point out your own faults. That type of conversation is extremely uncomfortable and will dissuade people from reaching out to help. So, help yourself first. Understand your issues and begin to solve them. Then you can even use that process to deflate the counter attack you will likely hear.
I would usually never EVER do this to anyone on RUclips but your content is helping me through a really rough patch and I decided I wanted to pay you back somehow besides my views... have a good day :)
Kindness is serving the needs of others without victimizing ourselves. Niceness sacrifices whatever is necessary to obtain approval. It makes a victim of the giver and the recipient dependent.
Kindness: Can include criticism of behaviors and of people as long as its coming from a constructive place. Niceness: Is like kindness but more superficial. When I think of it this way, most of the time I've given my friends a hard time about something maybe even teasing them, it's essentially pointing something out that they can improve on, however I didn't always do it in the "nicest" way. When I really don't like someone I usually don't point out their mistakes.
@@psychacks I'm slightly disagree with the statement above if i might. Perhaps it's involving "myself" into the several self-sabotage i'm still dealing with. I am following you {subscription as well" for so many logic and rational answers from your true commitment towards so many psychological factors needed to be explained once for all. Like for example "Respect & Loyalty means different things from men and women" to names only few. Maybe i'm an old fashion person still believing of these vital "good values & principles" supposedly count in this hypocritical society recently lost with nothing to grasp on. This so called "qualities" seems that nowadays don't stick anymore into the structure or...unfortunately into our life's pattern from this unrealistic and irrational systemic of anti-social behaviours. And so i've found out by my own experiences that my own struggles are useless to carry on helping others with time. Same application would nail on the common standard of: "We canno't explain everything to everybody." Personally i never judged people/closest friends/my ex partners in their own way to self-destructions in the meanwhile i was supporting them with all means necessary. Although i do use harsh criticism to correct foolish people's behaviour towards cause i deeply concern into our social worldwide community & health care with my fully involvement through many groups, public platforms & charity organizations with my several kind of interventions. {Supporting with my savings and as a volunteer} Plus i believe through my honest analysis to. My point is: Everyone makes mistakes-So it's a common sense to see in them, from our prospective a human weakness whom concern us all. Through nearly my all life my moral ethic obligation pushed myself to rescue damned souls-homeless-understanding why people at certain point of their life stack into sort of "state of desperation" in same rare cases not booze involved. Bottom line: If my duty and my mission to save lives is whole wrong issue? As i receive mostly as gratification only backstabbing? I wonder how to change my role without been feeling selfish and carry on without change my attitude and personality to? Btw, Seattle to add to to the lovely call of San Francisco and Minneapolis too from other unsensed madness reasons.
Thank you, I do have to stop being nice at time, but kindness can not be turned off. From my experience, it's not a good idea and rather a waste of time to confromt someone who is drunk on their drinking. That doesn't work. You do need to tell them the next day, when they are more sober. Don't let them get away with it, as that is permission for them to go again.
Spot on. in the case of your example they’re not on the street because minimum wage is too low, to believe that is disingenuous and allows you to avoid having to deal with the reasons they’re not employable (drug addiction, alcoholism, mental illness) without understanding why ,they ,will never get the help they need ,and that’s unkind.
Great discussion and very relevant to today's world. Kindness without accountability is pointless and superficial and is often used so as to be seen to be doing something positive.
I thought your video on the female inability to apologize was fantastic, but this feels like a bunch of jargon laden nonsense, and needlessly overlapping and confusing. If you are expressing the second kind of kindness then you have certainly already rendered a judgment, even if your starting point is care and concern, and not shame. It's hard to take action about anything without assessment of reality and rendering a judgment. At that point how you approach the other person is where the care and concern becomes important and determining what tactics you will engage in as you assist a person you care about. The strategic goal was likely in place when you rendered the judgment. Plutchik's Wheel of Emotions is rightfully quite famous in psychology. Love is a combination of several primary and secondary and tertiary emotions. Love is a combination of the primary emotions ecstasy and admiration, along with the secondary emotions of joy and trust.
Most youtubers who talk about narcissistic abuse say that you shouldn't try to open the eyes of a person who is being manipulated by a narcissist. I think this is so wrong. I wish someone had told me I was in a relationship with a narcissist.
I use this tactic every day as a security officer. I find I get positive results. Be kind. You don't have to be a friend. Or friendly. Just be kind. It shows.
Why can't a person choose a life of being an addict? Just because that list style doesn't look appealing to you doesn't mean they should change to have yours. The other issues is numbers. OK, stepping over an addict to get into my home looks pretty bad. I should offer food, blanket, what? I should try and wake them up to ask what they want? OK, sure. What if I have to step over 5 addicts getting to my house? 10? 50? 100? How long will it take me to help 100 addicts everyday? Or do I pick and choose? Silly example? Then you must live in the US. Visit one of the many places around the world where you will indeed have 100's swarming a person who is handing out help of any kind. The concept Americans have that to be kind you have to bring everyone else in the world up to some US standard is not only silly but doesn't work. Handouts enable. There is only one reason an addict will give up on that lifestyle and that's by hitting rock bottom super hard for a very long period.
Is that joke about US West and East coasts valid? In West coast nice people would be gentle but not help you change the tire. In East coast people would shit-talk you while changing the tire for you.
Nice has always meant gentleman. Strong enough to be able to afford being kind. Pretty much all discussion about the supposed meaning of nice is the immature view that kindness indicates weakness.
I'll just say that not everyone deserves kindness. There are boundaries to respect in order to get kindness. So to respond to a non-zero amount of people saying that kindness is without expectations, no. It's not that. That would just be called being a doormat. People take advantage of others all the time, so taking that into account, if one is kind without expecting anything in return, that person is going to get stepped on throughout their life. It basically kind of devolves into a discussion about altruism. Do we really do anything out of altruism ? Long discussion shortened, my stance on that is that no, altruism is strictly always selfish, because we at least get the personal emotional satisfaction of having been a good person. So is the good deed selfless or does it make us feel good ? What is the drive behind being selfless ? Why would we ever do that ? Doesn't make any sense to me. It's not an argument for being selfish over selfless, but it's a recognition that true altruism doesn't exist. We still should strive to help other people, simply, if we never ever get anything in return, then it's not worth doing. If a person I hardly know is being self-destructive, but it doesn't impact others, I'm going to tell them once without cruelty, but beyond that, I'm not going to stick my neck out for them. If they can't hear me the first time, I'm wasting my time. Being kind, to me is that. If it impacts others ok, let's have a talk, but if it impacts only themselves, I'm not going to try to help. People don't want to be saved if they can't hear you the first time. I watched a travel vlog the other day, the dude was in India, got approached by a kid. Instead of giving the kid money, he bought him a meal and a bottle of water (which I was taught to do growing up). Then after that the kid started trying to get more. Actual money. When he said "no", the kid started acting out of line, trying to cause a situation, etc. That traveler had been kind. He was not enabling, and he wasn't nice. Because that kid probably deserved a meal, but nothing more, especially after acting out. Some would argue that even buying him a meal is enabling, and to be honest I wouldn't really have an argument against that, in fact I would agree. But he was the better person, he gave the kid the benefit of the doubt, went for food-water, and then nothing else, because he knew what was going on. But that kid will not stop trying to scam tourists because one of them didn't fall for it. You can't save those kids, certainly not as tourists.
Its a bit off. The definition of nice I use is being proactive without boundarys. While this is different from blind help. This is helping. Not kindness. Kindness is being nice but with boundarys. From the book no more mr.niceguy. and the book not nice. Where once you establish boundarys you gain control over others control over you. Where this is more about winning and explaining it in a way it makes sense. No one helped the bullied kid cause they helped the bully. They wanted to be kind to not gain his ire. Because they saw what happens from being nice.
So many people view kindness as a weakness, not a strength and they try to take advantage of kind people. With respect to the alcohol example, some people simply don't care even if you try the schpeel. I think kindness involves a degree of accountability, but there must be respectful limits nd boundaries as well. I'm not prepared to tolerate endless abuse despite trying to help.
I would disagree with the idea that it is unkind to make lifestyle criticisms of people, someone who is using drugs, an alcoholic, or even just plain immoral will be hurting themselves and others in the short and long run. It is in my opinion your duty not only to yourself, as a moral and rational person, the other person, as someone who needs help as you've no doubt received help in the past, but also to society who's membership comes with it a responsibility to help others and do no harm, this is not a particular moral, philosophical, or theological viewpoint but, rather the basis(social contract) on which man's cooperation is built. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, things that directly harm others can be agreed upon by all to be bad, but everybody likes to justify things that lead to the things that directly harm others. Those things in all but the most egregious cases (drunk driving) are not illicit in modern society, but they kind of should be.
I did this with a guy who really liked me, who I thought was a friend. I didn’t do anything for him to like me or lead him in in any way I actually talked about other men with him so I was completely surprised. He even told his family I was his girlfriend. I told him I didn’t feel the way he felt towards me and I didn’t want him to waste his time or efforts. Initially that made him more emotional and a little distant but he came to his senses and apologized and admitted that he tend to force things. I let it go. But after I moved he became obsessed with who i was involved with and it became so uncomfortable that i had to cut him off.
Being kind is sharing what you have out of your own volition. Being nice is trying to accommodate others to appease them. In my experience, being nice is more often than not perfunctory. Say, someone wants your note at uni - they will small talk you, they will smile at you, they may compliment you. But behind your back, they may spread gossip about you, etc.
Great definition. True kindness includes letting people know when they are making a mistake, as well as affirming successes. And always without expectation of reciprocation.
On a personal level, before saying anything, one must first consider the nature of your relationship with the person concerned. That relationship governs what to say and whether to say anything at all. A true friend sometimes has to say hard truths because most other people are mere acquaintances and it’s not their business. In terms of public policy, the considerations are quite different. SF has gone off the rails because people there have confused personal kindness with what makes for a good society. Public authorities need to take measures to prevent one person’s choices in life damaging other people and the public spaces which everyone has to share. Faeces and drug addicts in the street are as much pollution as pouring toxic waste into the environment.
I feel that kindness as it's used in our common language is a little different in the last point. I think the last point, actively preventing harm, is more along the lines of being a good person than being kind. The reason I say this is because if you take away the definition from being more aligned with being nice, you lose the capability of the word to describe a nature in a person that is aligned with being nice and gentle. For example a kind hearted person is close to a nice person. I do like how you broke out the 3 points but I was also hoping for a little more differences like what nice looks like in comparison. You did give me the clarity that kindness includes being nice sometimes and being nice includes kindness sometimes. Maybe your point is that being nice is more aligned with the avoidance characteristics than kindness is. I still think it's important to keep it's definition to be more in line with a gentle caring and nurturing demeanor than just pointing things out or helping avoid pain in some way. It can be associated with selfless acts I think. I am no expert just my opinion
I agree and appreciate the accountability aspect of kindness. How do you suggest going to someone with love that is hurting themselves and others, but is self medicating legitimate pain and suffering and able to access the support they truly need in a timely, ongoing way?
You might want to check out my episode "How to confront a friend." The example given is not a serious as self-destructive addiction, but the principle remains the same.
Totally agree and it very much does take a lot of courage to be that kind when you KNOW you are likely to receive back lash and defensiveness if/when you are lovingly truthful
I grew up in a family where self destructive behavior was normal. Every one of them had their means- smoking, drinking, over eating. The other family value was “we don’t need help.” This resulted in a lot of slow suicide. It’s taken me years to understand that’s what was wrong, that’s what I fought against. Intervention was attempted but never successful.
I used to always subscribe , like and comment to show support to other good channels . Energy and time doing so. Most channels ask others to subscribe to their channel asking for our support while they themselves do not offer the same support to other channels . That was me being nice , I consider it a kindness now , not to do so and explain why , so that they may wish to self reflect on this valid and common observation
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Kindness is actually a fairly complicated construct. It is not synonymous with being nice. Being nice isn't always kind, and being kind isn't always nice. The issue is that there are two faces of kindness, and one without the other is pathological. In this episode, I use concrete examples to demonstrate how kindness without loving honesty is typically a form of enabling that does more harm than good.
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The Cruel Sea. Monserrat..@@vinnie1827
The soul demands your folly not your wisdom. Jung.
In today's world where insults, manipulation,mind games, grudge and other things is a common place, being kind is extraordinary. It's what separates you from other people. The act of being kind is an extension of self. People misinterpret kindness for weakness. I've always been taught how to be kind to people. Tapping into empathy rather than a fake sweet approach is more authentic and is what I live my life by. Thanks!
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Well said Dora, and thanks for helping me realise another aspect of what true revolution involves. To have influence over intolerable situations, (instead of avoiding conflict or being a victim of injustice ect), I needed to understand that in times of universal DECEIT and LIES, speaking the truth becomes a REVOLUTIONARY act. Now, I can see that being KIND, in times of rampant CRUELTY, is ALSO a revolutionary thing to do!
@@tonyarmstrong8291 Kindness is the highest form of intelligence. The act of being kind is innate. It cannot b implanted into someone's mind or behaviour. Likewise it cannot be separated from people possessing it. People who are kind have their own emanation of good vibes which has the power to enliven and vitalise other people's life as well. Albeit in this world we come across myriad experiences which may put us in dismay and force to cogitate if being too kind is BAD?? Well the problem begins when being too kind becomes inevitable for us and OTHER PEOPLE START TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.
@@Dora-wc8beHow kind is 'too kind'? True kindness cannot be taken advantage of. Because it is based in truth. If you feel you've been taken advantage of, whatever you did was not done in the spirit of true kindness.
@@happydogg312 kindness is weakness
I’m a simple guy so I have a simpler interpretation. When approached by sales persons my wife tends to lead them on giving them false hope of a sale she has intention of ( 5 min conversation)-that’s being “nice”. I tell them upfront I appreciate their effort and expertise but aren’t in the market allowing them to move on to fertile prospects (10 sec conversation)- that’s being “kind”.
This realization hit me HARD after 40. I made no distinction between kind and nice up until I faced an inevitable and painful consequence. Being nice is not a virtue, it eats away at you over time, and it can grow into a pretty big ego. One tip that has helped me and might help others - you might overestimate the amount of time other people spending thinking about what you say and do. In all likelihood they are moving on much sooner than you realize. Be honest, speak up, and let it go. There is tremendous freedom for you on the other side.
This was a very powerful lesson, thanks so much.
I came to a point of my life that I focus on my well-being first. If I am safe and wish to help others, I will do so. Before, I was helping following the concept you mentioned and was giving to people who only take, take with the victim mentality. I was raised in that, so I thought it was normal. It almost took my life out, because I felt I was not good enough to even help them. Now only help if I feel safe and feel it's the right thing to do for me I shall help.
good job, hard thing to change.
@@ivanecho Thank you Ivan, sending you love on your journey ❤
Thats good im going threw the same man your not alone ❤
Completely agree. It's easy to ask for/say to help from a place of neediness or ample abundance/strength. For the rest of us who have just enough for ourselves if even that, giving comes at an irredeemable cost and isn't affordable unless you are getting something invaluable in return.
@@shinobi_endure completely agree
The etymology of "nice" comes from Latin "nesciens", non-knowing. "Nice" has become a plague for certain elements of society. There ought to be a DSM section on hyper-agreeableness. Gets "nice" people into deep trouble.
4:14 -🎯I think enabling is the right word, and it's endemic in our culture these days. Another good description might be toxic empathy. Your example of San Fran is spot on.
TOXIC EMPATHY.
YES.
As someone whom has a bit of a diminished capacity, for emotional empathy - all this empathy being thrown around every second, drives me INSANE.
Have I learned it has it’s place and how to use it?
Yes.
Especially after what I have survived.
I call it “effective empathy.”
However, it drives me insane when I have to cater to people’s empathy - when it’s necessary to be empathetic to their empathy.
UGH.
It’s so annoying.
Especially, in casual, small-talk circumstances.
It's not empathy, rather it's apathy. It's not caring if someone self-destructs because you find your own self-righteousness and self-perception of being "nice" to be more important than their actual well-being.
Honesty is the greatest form of kindness in my opinion. Anyone can say nice words, but very few people are willing to tell you the bitter truth, watch you fall apart, and then standing by to help you pull yourself together and build you up into a better, stronger version of yourself. I sincerely encourage everyone to try this, it’s incredibly difficult to do but it’s worth it.
Now with that said, I do encourage people to find ways to deliver the truth in ways that aren’t as damaging. I’m starting to learn how important it is to do that, no need to be more blunt than you already are.
I took a vow of honesty in 1993. My philosophy is, i'd rather tell the Truth and chance their tears, than to lie to them just to see a smile. Some say I have no filter, I just don't sit by when I see someone getting hurt.
usually people do it with criticism and pumping own ego not accepting other persons worldview
I'm trying this with my mom.
She simply thinks I'm bullying her.
...no, I don't think so.
The point about people being complicit in their suffering is 100% spot on. If you are completely a victim then you remove yourself from the power to change your situation, if you can take responsibility for your situation, even if you are not responsible for the circumstances of your situation then you give yourself the option to make that situation better and take control of what is happening to you.
This
to be brutally honest, being nice is for losers, being kind and being strong is the way to go
Inaction, neglect, enabling, or sheltering from consequences are not forms of kindness.
Great video, Dr Taraban. Thanks for making it.
I've had this experience recently and had to walk away from it. To help a friend I carefully and lovingly (and privately) confronted them about their change of character and bad habits they had taken up. Nobody else wanted to address it properly and it caused a rather narcissistic reaction from them. They apologised (years) later but it was mostly about wanting the benefits of a good friend without the corresponding responsibility such entails. This was confirmed when they started trying to triangulate me with the "nice" people who saw the destructive path they were on but said nothing, actually encouraged it
Oh well, God knows my heart. People, stay chaos free in 2023!
This is the first time in my life I understood what “be kind to yourself” means. Everybody says it, my therapist said it, and I have some vague notions of it, but didn’t know what it was concretely. Turns out, I am not kind to myself lol but now I can learn to be! Thanks!
Struggling atm with my spouse who has bipolar. They have self medicated with cannabis which put them in a manic state. They left the house about 2 months ago in the middle of the night and has been living out of their car with some homeless guy they picked up. Homeless guy has been enabling my spouse, telling them that they are fine when they clearly are not while smoking cannabis and not taking their meds (they missed several appt with psychiatrist). My spouse is self destructing from their mental illness. They are refusing to go get treatment, refusing to acknowledge their illness and destroying their relationships with their family. Their father and sister has broken off all contact with them due to their verbal abuse. Not knowing what else to do, I ended up calling the police when my spouse lightly punched me during a verbal altercation in our front yard. They are in jail right now BUT they are in the psych ward getting their much needed meds and getting off the cannabis. My spouse wasn't going to seek help otherwise and I was afraid of what would happen if I let their mental illness run its course.
Was my getting the police involved the right move?
Yes , they would have gone farther downhill without your intervention, and taken your sanity with them , it is not your job to try to fix another at the expense of your well being ,
I have been hammered on this point. Giving my friend hell for snorting too much coke. I wasnt nice, I was mad and trying to stop them from killing themselves. I hope they believe me when I say, "I care about you"
I no longer concern myself with being kind. I concern myself with being fair. I will lose sleep over that if a feel I have fallen short, but I never lose sleep over whether I was kind enough. I don't go out of my way to be hurtful either.
Being kind is giving without having an expection of a reward
@@leebennett1821 that, is what love is.
It's about whether one judges actions by how they make you FEEL, or what the final RESULT is. Things that produce good results rarely feel good, and chasing good feelings doesn't lead to good results.
It's the difference between enjoying chocolate, or enjoying the fruits of exercise.
Sounds very stoic. Thank you for the reminder to stop drinking still as it is in my hands now as nobody around me cares about it. I will be a captain
Someone who lived on both the west & east coast once said, "People who live in New York City are very kind, but they are not nice. While those who live in LA are very nice, but they're not kind." I understood exactly what he meant.
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS) Nice is in Fact a Self-centered Behavior Pattern Where Eu r Acting in a Pleasing Way so az to Get PPL to Like Eu r to Avoid Conflict KIND is an Other-Oriented Behavior where Eu Demonstrate that Eu can Act in the Best Interested of Others
Your sweater is inside out dude.
It was the hardest thing I've ever done to confront a loved one's destructive addiction with kindness, yet recusing to participate in enabling his downward spiral. Thanks for reinforcing that I did what needed to be done, consequences be damned. It was hard, but necessary.
One thing I would change about this video, kindly, is removing the mellow dia/monologue about how you understand someone with addiction
All things being equal, I think it's about “introducing cats” into the equation
For instance, my mother used to smoke for a few years which I deemed inappropriate, especially given that she shares room with her daughter who has explicitly expressed her dislike for the smell that comes from her mother whenever she comes from a staircase
My “strategy” has included periodic ridicule mixed with rather "aggressive" (ironically so but perceived as such) dialogues from me from time to time
I didn't exactly “calculate” anything in advance but this actually happened to work and she is now smoke free for a couple of months
I'm not a very big believer in explaining something to people who don't wanna listen unless there's something for them, especially to lose (I'm leaning towards thinking you're right about negative stimulus being more powerful to humans)
Another perk of my approach is that I get to justly troll the people I'm happening to be kind to, so there's some fun for me aswell
I came for wisdom and stayed for the great sweater
My parents and family destroyed my life, sucked the life out of me, drove me to self destruction, stood by as I self destructed and kicked me while I tried to change my life and help them while I was at it. They have the nerve to tell me they love me.
Honestly, only one friend tried to say something to me.
There has got to be a point where those should be on a bit the wrongdoing without worrying about their self image, or their self image was like in the past….
We don’t ever see enough of that, but I’m glad to see that you went through what you did and had a friend like that..
I have a friend right now I’m will never even listen to that one friend never for the sake of herself or kids or anything ..
Thank you for posting this and I hope you have a fantastic week
The solution is not to be unkind. This is easier than it appears.
I agree. There are many situations when we must do something. And much more, than we usualy do.
But there are extreem examples too. I had a patient dying in acut on chronic liver disease caused by alkohol. I asked, what happened. He locked him up in his room with only alkohol and without food or any other drink, and drank himself close to death. His wife didn't do anything, it happened other times too, and he is not somebody to talk with in situations like this. She was even afraid to call help until he was no longer contious. Did she love him? Yes, I know she did. Wasn't she stupid? Yes, she was, she could call help, but she was also afraid, and tired, and she is not a strong personality. Can I judge her? I couldn't.
So it is always important, not to judge anyone, but tell everyone the truths, show their duties, and teach them. May your channel always be a space of truth, love and kindness, as it is, how I see.
Thank you.
I am binge watching your videos, I wish I had found them sooner! You really have a gift at explaining this stuff. This is slightly off topic for this video but perhaps could be a future video. I am struggling to find how one can be kind but not be seen as weak. As an example, I could be kind to one of my employees as they are going through a difficult time. Almost immediately others will start acting up and trying to push the boundaries too. I have to make an example of one person before the rest get back into line. Any ideas on how one can be kind without coming across as weak?
I’ll be honest with you. That sounds a little silly that being kind to one employee makes the others act poorly. But even if that is the case, all you have to to is maintain the standard if they start acting silly or pushing your boundaries.
If those people think being kind is a weakness, you have to show them it’s not. Meaning that you don’t fold or let them take advantage of that.
I think you should do a video about conflict avoidance.
Single man here and gotta say, I really like this channel. It’s pretty much red pill, while simultaneously being diplomatic. Thanks for the info and glad to learn from it.
Glad you're railing on San Franshitsco.
You know what is not kind 4500 a month for a single bed apartment there.
Those areas claim to be nice but have the most human suffering.
Agree and disagree, if someone asks for it, show kindness, if someone on his/her way tk destroy them, better avoid them unless you wanna be dragged with them with allegations l/charges
Yeah this type of kindness takes courage. Not everyone is willing or secure enough in themselves to go out on a limb and point out what is going wrong in others' lives.
Because then they will likely retort in what they see as a similar fashion. In other words point out your own faults.
That type of conversation is extremely uncomfortable and will dissuade people from reaching out to help.
So, help yourself first. Understand your issues and begin to solve them. Then you can even use that process to deflate the counter attack you will likely hear.
My thoughts exactly, thanks for sharing 👏
I would usually never EVER do this to anyone on RUclips but your content is helping me through a really rough patch and I decided I wanted to pay you back somehow besides my views... have a good day :)
Kindness is serving the needs of others without victimizing ourselves.
Niceness sacrifices whatever is necessary to obtain approval. It makes a victim of the giver and the recipient dependent.
Kindness: Can include criticism of behaviors and of people as long as its coming from a constructive place.
Niceness: Is like kindness but more superficial.
When I think of it this way, most of the time I've given my friends a hard time about something maybe even teasing them, it's essentially pointing something out that they can improve on, however I didn't always do it in the "nicest" way.
When I really don't like someone I usually don't point out their mistakes.
Of course. As Napoleon said, "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
@@psychacks I'm slightly disagree with the statement above if i might. Perhaps it's involving "myself" into the several self-sabotage i'm still dealing with. I am following you {subscription as well" for so many logic and rational answers from your true commitment towards so many psychological factors needed to be explained once for all. Like for example "Respect & Loyalty means different things from men and women" to names only few. Maybe i'm an old fashion person still believing of these vital "good values & principles" supposedly count in this hypocritical society recently lost with nothing to grasp on. This so called "qualities" seems that nowadays don't stick anymore into the structure or...unfortunately into our life's pattern from this unrealistic and irrational systemic of anti-social behaviours. And so i've found out by my own experiences that my own struggles are useless to carry on helping others with time. Same application would nail on the common standard of: "We canno't explain everything to everybody." Personally i never judged people/closest friends/my ex partners in their own way to self-destructions in the meanwhile i was supporting them with all means necessary. Although i do use harsh criticism to correct foolish people's behaviour towards cause i deeply concern into our social worldwide community & health care with my fully involvement through many groups, public platforms & charity organizations with my several kind of interventions. {Supporting with my savings and as a volunteer} Plus i believe through my honest analysis to. My point is: Everyone makes mistakes-So it's a common sense to see in them, from our prospective a human weakness whom concern us all. Through nearly my all life my moral ethic obligation pushed myself to rescue damned souls-homeless-understanding why people at certain point of their life stack into sort of "state of desperation" in same rare cases not booze involved. Bottom line: If my duty and my mission to save lives is whole wrong issue? As i receive mostly as gratification only backstabbing? I wonder how to change my role without been feeling selfish and carry on without change my attitude and personality to? Btw, Seattle to add to to the lovely call of San Francisco and Minneapolis too from other unsensed madness reasons.
Thank you, I do have to stop being nice at time, but kindness can not be turned off. From my experience, it's not a good idea and rather a waste of time to confromt someone who is drunk on their drinking. That doesn't work. You do need to tell them the next day, when they are more sober. Don't let them get away with it, as that is permission for them to go again.
Spot on. in the case of your example they’re not on the street because minimum wage is too low, to believe that is disingenuous and allows you to avoid having to deal with the reasons they’re not employable (drug addiction, alcoholism, mental illness) without understanding why ,they ,will never get the help they need ,and that’s unkind.
Your content is amazing. I've been binge watching and listening for the past month and feel better in my skin as a man. Keep it up.
You've got a lot of things nailed mate, your content is really useful thanks,
Great discussion and very relevant to today's world. Kindness without accountability is pointless and superficial and is often used so as to be seen to be doing something positive.
In the present world, no good deed goes unpunished. Self-preservation is the new kindness.
Yes my people in my circle hold me accountable and vice-versa. Accountability is love.
I thought your video on the female inability to apologize was fantastic, but this feels like a bunch of jargon laden nonsense, and needlessly overlapping and confusing.
If you are expressing the second kind of kindness then you have certainly already rendered a judgment, even if your starting point is care and concern, and not shame. It's hard to take action about anything without assessment of reality and rendering a judgment. At that point how you approach the other person is where the care and concern becomes important and determining what tactics you will engage in as you assist a person you care about. The strategic goal was likely in place when you rendered the judgment.
Plutchik's Wheel of Emotions is rightfully quite famous in psychology. Love is a combination of several primary and secondary and tertiary emotions. Love is a combination of the primary emotions ecstasy and admiration, along with the secondary emotions of joy and trust.
Most youtubers who talk about narcissistic abuse say that you shouldn't try to open the eyes of a person who is being manipulated by a narcissist. I think this is so wrong. I wish someone had told me I was in a relationship with a narcissist.
So…Does this mean no more sharp, sarcastic, devilishly witty, cruelly hilarious English humor?…What would kind humor be like?💂♂️
I was waiting for an example of pathological honesty. I suppose it's not an actual thing. 🤷🏼♂️
I use this tactic every day as a security officer. I find I get positive results. Be kind. You don't have to be a friend. Or friendly. Just be kind. It shows.
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Why can't a person choose a life of being an addict? Just because that list style doesn't look appealing to you doesn't mean they should change to have yours.
The other issues is numbers. OK, stepping over an addict to get into my home looks pretty bad. I should offer food, blanket, what? I should try and wake them up to ask what they want? OK, sure. What if I have to step over 5 addicts getting to my house? 10? 50? 100? How long will it take me to help 100 addicts everyday? Or do I pick and choose?
Silly example? Then you must live in the US. Visit one of the many places around the world where you will indeed have 100's swarming a person who is handing out help of any kind.
The concept Americans have that to be kind you have to bring everyone else in the world up to some US standard is not only silly but doesn't work. Handouts enable. There is only one reason an addict will give up on that lifestyle and that's by hitting rock bottom super hard for a very long period.
I've heard someone categorize these 2 states of kindness as "empathy" versus "compassion".
Is that joke about US West and East coasts valid? In West coast nice people would be gentle but not help you change the tire. In East coast people would shit-talk you while changing the tire for you.
Nice has always meant gentleman. Strong enough to be able to afford being kind. Pretty much all discussion about the supposed meaning of nice is the immature view that kindness indicates weakness.
I'll just say that not everyone deserves kindness. There are boundaries to respect in order to get kindness. So to respond to a non-zero amount of people saying that kindness is without expectations, no. It's not that. That would just be called being a doormat. People take advantage of others all the time, so taking that into account, if one is kind without expecting anything in return, that person is going to get stepped on throughout their life.
It basically kind of devolves into a discussion about altruism. Do we really do anything out of altruism ? Long discussion shortened, my stance on that is that no, altruism is strictly always selfish, because we at least get the personal emotional satisfaction of having been a good person. So is the good deed selfless or does it make us feel good ? What is the drive behind being selfless ? Why would we ever do that ? Doesn't make any sense to me.
It's not an argument for being selfish over selfless, but it's a recognition that true altruism doesn't exist. We still should strive to help other people, simply, if we never ever get anything in return, then it's not worth doing.
If a person I hardly know is being self-destructive, but it doesn't impact others, I'm going to tell them once without cruelty, but beyond that, I'm not going to stick my neck out for them. If they can't hear me the first time, I'm wasting my time. Being kind, to me is that. If it impacts others ok, let's have a talk, but if it impacts only themselves, I'm not going to try to help. People don't want to be saved if they can't hear you the first time.
I watched a travel vlog the other day, the dude was in India, got approached by a kid. Instead of giving the kid money, he bought him a meal and a bottle of water (which I was taught to do growing up). Then after that the kid started trying to get more. Actual money. When he said "no", the kid started acting out of line, trying to cause a situation, etc. That traveler had been kind. He was not enabling, and he wasn't nice. Because that kid probably deserved a meal, but nothing more, especially after acting out. Some would argue that even buying him a meal is enabling, and to be honest I wouldn't really have an argument against that, in fact I would agree. But he was the better person, he gave the kid the benefit of the doubt, went for food-water, and then nothing else, because he knew what was going on. But that kid will not stop trying to scam tourists because one of them didn't fall for it. You can't save those kids, certainly not as tourists.
Its a bit off.
The definition of nice I use is being proactive without boundarys.
While this is different from blind help. This is helping. Not kindness.
Kindness is being nice but with boundarys. From the book no more mr.niceguy. and the book not nice.
Where once you establish boundarys you gain control over others control over you.
Where this is more about winning and explaining it in a way it makes sense. No one helped the bullied kid cause they helped the bully. They wanted to be kind to not gain his ire. Because they saw what happens from being nice.
So many people view kindness as a weakness, not a strength and they try to take advantage of kind people.
With respect to the alcohol example, some people simply don't care even if you try the schpeel.
I think kindness involves a degree of accountability, but there must be respectful limits nd boundaries as well. I'm not prepared to tolerate endless abuse despite trying to help.
I would disagree with the idea that it is unkind to make lifestyle criticisms of people, someone who is using drugs, an alcoholic, or even just plain immoral will be hurting themselves and others in the short and long run. It is in my opinion your duty not only to yourself, as a moral and rational person, the other person, as someone who needs help as you've no doubt received help in the past, but also to society who's membership comes with it a responsibility to help others and do no harm, this is not a particular moral, philosophical, or theological viewpoint but, rather the basis(social contract) on which man's cooperation is built. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, things that directly harm others can be agreed upon by all to be bad, but everybody likes to justify things that lead to the things that directly harm others. Those things in all but the most egregious cases (drunk driving) are not illicit in modern society, but they kind of should be.
Thank you for this video, I'll be a bolder Christian. May God draw you and your viewers to Christ.
I did this with a guy who really liked me, who I thought was a friend. I didn’t do anything for him to like me or lead him in in any way I actually talked about other men with him so I was completely surprised. He even told his family I was his girlfriend. I told him I didn’t feel the way he felt towards me and I didn’t want him to waste his time or efforts. Initially that made him more emotional and a little distant but he came to his senses and apologized and admitted that he tend to force things. I let it go. But after I moved he became obsessed with who i was involved with and it became so uncomfortable that i had to cut him off.
Being kind is sharing what you have out of your own volition. Being nice is trying to accommodate others to appease them.
In my experience, being nice is more often than not perfunctory. Say, someone wants your note at uni - they will small talk you, they will smile at you, they may compliment you. But behind your back, they may spread gossip about you, etc.
Great definition. True kindness includes letting people know when they are making a mistake, as well as affirming successes. And always without expectation of reciprocation.
you only talked about KIND . You didn't say nothing about NICE
On a personal level, before saying anything, one must first consider the nature of your relationship with the person concerned. That relationship governs what to say and whether to say anything at all. A true friend sometimes has to say hard truths because most other people are mere acquaintances and it’s not their business.
In terms of public policy, the considerations are quite different. SF has gone off the rails because people there have confused personal kindness with what makes for a good society. Public authorities need to take measures to prevent one person’s choices in life damaging other people and the public spaces which everyone has to share. Faeces and drug addicts in the street are as much pollution as pouring toxic waste into the environment.
Its not your business to intervene. No one asked you. Additionally, you don't know what enabling really means.
I feel that kindness as it's used in our common language is a little different in the last point. I think the last point, actively preventing harm, is more along the lines of being a good person than being kind. The reason I say this is because if you take away the definition from being more aligned with being nice, you lose the capability of the word to describe a nature in a person that is aligned with being nice and gentle. For example a kind hearted person is close to a nice person. I do like how you broke out the 3 points but I was also hoping for a little more differences like what nice looks like in comparison. You did give me the clarity that kindness includes being nice sometimes and being nice includes kindness sometimes. Maybe your point is that being nice is more aligned with the avoidance characteristics than kindness is. I still think it's important to keep it's definition to be more in line with a gentle caring and nurturing demeanor than just pointing things out or helping avoid pain in some way. It can be associated with selfless acts I think. I am no expert just my opinion
Should I be nice and not say anything? Or, should I be “kind” and say that this “not nice, but kind” concept is total nonsense.
I have been listing to 5-6 of your episodes and find them really useful - thanks!
Yeah but you are constantly pressuring person to do something.....this is contrast
Being nice in order to be liked. Have come to find out that it's far more important to be respected than being liked.
I agree and appreciate the accountability aspect of kindness. How do you suggest going to someone with love that is hurting themselves and others, but is self medicating legitimate pain and suffering and able to access the support they truly need in a timely, ongoing way?
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You might want to check out my episode "How to confront a friend." The example given is not a serious as self-destructive addiction, but the principle remains the same.
I think the volume may be somewhat low in this video... or maybe it's just my shitty setup?
They need to come up with another term for Phds besides 'Dr' to differentiate them from real doctors.
You should have given credit to Teal Swan as she did a video on this subject that, dare I say was even better than yours.
Should i stop being kind an having Patients like a saint for wemon?
The volume is low, pls work on it, I can give ideas If you need them.
Maybe not, but there is a good chance that nice people are kinder than people that are not nice.
As an embodiment of evil, I genuinely can't relate.
Is no one else going to mention the sweater? Because damn, that's creepy.
Imperatives. Sounds like Kant
At this point in time, best to avoid trying to help others.. sounds cold, but were on our own
that sweater is amazing
What is that black thing on your shoulder?
You know I really care about you, but that sweater bro! 😂
you cannot help someone if he or she doesn't want to be helped
May I know where you got that gorgeous sweater from?
Why is a handsome guy like you not married
Love this man. Platonic like. 😁
Totally agree and it very much does take a lot of courage to be that kind when you KNOW you are likely to receive back lash and defensiveness if/when you are lovingly truthful
Facts. But growing pains are beneficial
Thats a dope sweater, but it looks inside out?
I made this distinction a long time ago. I hate nice.
Which is better: being kind, or being nice?
otherwise known as tough love.
The word nice at one time meant stupid.
you have to be cruel to be kind
Damn, that's a cool sweater.
Sweater looks inside out to me.
I grew up in a family where self destructive behavior was normal. Every one of them had their means- smoking, drinking, over eating. The other family value was “we don’t need help.” This resulted in a lot of slow suicide. It’s taken me years to understand that’s what was wrong, that’s what I fought against. Intervention was attempted but never successful.
You must know about Ayn Rand
I used to always subscribe , like and comment to show support to other good channels . Energy and time doing so. Most channels ask others to subscribe to their channel asking for our support while they themselves do not offer the same support to other channels . That was me being nice , I consider it a kindness now , not to do so and explain why , so that they may wish to self reflect on this valid and common observation
Excellent video. Thank you for clarifying what these mean and providing examples. 🙏🏼💖
That's deep.....I really mean it.....and appreciate the way you "bring things to the table." ❤