Should You EVO 4G63 SWAP Your Mitsubishi Eclipse? | My Opinion 6 Years Later...
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2023
- We go over my thoughts on the Mitsubishi Eclipse Evo swap 4g63 process and if its still worth it in 2023?
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GS and RS are cheap and plentiful and I think everyone needs to start swapping those and keeping them alive. It's such a timeless car. Keeping them FWD is doable and shouldn't be much of a hassle. But I do appreciate you proving the dsmers wrong and opening the possibilities with your silver GS.
Biggest thing thats stopping me from doing the evo swap is the lack if availability for some parts
Your car is definitely one of a kind. Good video!
I found a 4g63 cyclone engine with transfer case and awd manual transmission, Im really thinking about picking it up and building it. I sold me 2g and my 1g plymouth laser, and I really want to get back into a 4g63, by far my favorite engines ever made. Thank you for sharing your build, this is extremely awesome!
I wouldnt say the 420a is more reliable, they just typically live an easier life. But as these cars are over 25 years old, they are only as reliable as the work you put into them.
The best way to build a reliable car is make it as boring as possible and target boring customers *cough* toyota *cough*
Keep it up! This is good content so people don't get in over their heads. It's like the good the bad and the ugly lol!!
Gran video hermano,mis felicitaciones para ti Bro
Muchas gracias Santix
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Great content as always, and man you been hitting that gym hard bro lol. Got arms like a Wwe wrestler now 😂. Question, does the lower control arm connect to the frame chassis or subframe? Mine broke free from rust issue, I haven’t got under it yet cause of weather lately. Friend thinks subframe but I could of swore it’s chassis problem. Thanks
Getting there man haha. Subframe sits above the lower joint so assuming it’s on the subframe chasis
also congrats on 70k
Do a video on how does your eclipse awd and evo compare
Hey Miguel, I've been building my gst just from a chassi for the past 3years and I had to put all the oem parts to get it legally approved to put back on the road is it worth it to modify this 4g63 ou do a Evo swap instead like you did but keep it on de fwd (because here in Switzerland I can't change that) either way thank you for the video and love the content keep it up!!
Also I Am Really Fan Of The EVO 4G63 Swapped A Lot Dude With Ever Since 2003 Has Been Around Also Modifications Upcoming As Well With The Generations Of The Mitsubishi Lancer EVO Also The Rest With Mods Of The Mitsubishi’s Dude Again.
I think personally it was good choice. Being your first car a dream car and restomodding to what people wish they can do to it. I feel like the stuff that came out of it like the features like super street was a bonus. If I have a chance to do something like this I would do it.
I personally feel like this is the eclipse up there with the fast and the furious one. IMO this is better in every way. The FF one was perfect for the era it was in, this one matches today OEM plus
I'm really admirable in so many ways. goodjob car like.
Honestly i used to think it was a huge waste of time, effort and money but IMO the biggest issue with the DSM 4g isnt even the motor. Its the transmissions, simply put there are no more parts for them and theyre weak as shit. On a E3 16G or a 68HTA youll make enough torque to absolutely chew up stock gearboxes all day, i know as ive done it and its one of the biggest reasons i havent bothered to fix my 1g because i know as soon as i put a new headgasket on it its gonna be like 2 months of fun untill third gear decides to go again and im running out of parts. I personally think that one of the biggest advantages to moving to a EVO 4-9 drivetrain is you get to move away from the DSMs manual transmission and move to the much stronger transmissions available to the EVOs.
Very solid point. It’ll be worth it as long as Evo replacement parts don’t get too expensive
@@MiguelDsm I hope as manufacturing technologies develope we can one day have some additive manufacturing technology that let's us "easily" create new, stronger, gearsets for our cars, both evo and dsms. My two cents is that transmission parts will be the downfall of these cars over the next 10-20 years
The car is getting nicer. ^○^
@ Miguel DSM Do you know if a 4g64 2.4l would fit my 99 gs?
I’ve got a 4g63 swapped into a 2005 cavalier. Only took me a month to get it all to work. And 3 months to get it perfect.
My mom husband gave me his 1994 mitsubishi 3000gt sl to build it for mine 5 year old son. So when he turned 16 and get his license, I given to him. With alot time head me what u think. Should i do swap it or rebuild it. Vr4 front wheel drive or just non turbo or evo swap it front wheel drive. I will like hear your opinion.
Whats your opinion of an evo swap to a 4g eclipse gs
Hey Miguel, Love your eclipse. I just got to the point in my life where i could afford a GS and i know a really good source to buy it from (i live in the EU), but everyone is telling me parts are super rare nowadays. Is this true? i'd prefer to get 4g63 over 420A, because where i live you can't modify cars like you want, only to original specs (like convert a gs into gs-t or gsx) and i want it manual. Mostly how rare the parts are keeping me back from buying one right now, but it is definitely a life long love for me too.
I can see them being more Expensive to maintain as parts are harder for the people that have them internationally. I think r they’re worth it though
thinking about putting an srt 4 neon engine if my 420a gives out. its a hard choice ngl
What Motor comes stock w the dsm?
Si what is the difference between Evo swapping and regular 4g63 swapping an eclipse
CS Here Dude Again Yeah Maybe You Should In The Near Future About Plans For Swapping 4G Guide Miguel For Planing Things Same Thing About This With Ever Since Then Like Your First Car Was A 2012 You Owned A 1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse DSM GSX So Since 2018 Or 2019 You Driven Back Return Then Some Like That You Been Swapped Also I Am A Fan Of That Motor Since Came Out With The EVO VIII In 2003 Up To 2005 Also EVO IX Was Only In 2006 Single MY Also In 2008 Up To 2015 EVO X Miguel So Ever Since Then These Years Still.
what do you think about a 6g75 swap on a 420a eclipse
Not sure on the potential of the engine & possibilities of an awd swap
My Dad has a Plymouth Laser... should I swap it... 🤔 I've always loved AWD ENGINES
Do you think evo swapping the eclipse increases the reliability compared to a 6 bolt swap in a turbo dsm? Assuming a person does it right and has a stand-alone fuel management, etc. I miss my dsm (talon tsi awd w built 6 bolt swap) but I don't miss fixing it all the time. If someone wanted a more solid reliable high hp dsm, do you think it would be advantageous to do this swap vs by a gsx/tsi and 6 bolt swap it? Basically would you say that this swap has the reliability of an evo 8/9??
No there’s no reliability increase .. building the engine and drive line first is the key to not having something that you need to work on all the time .. a standalone shouldn’t even me used by someone that cannot tune it themselves imo .. dsm’s aren’t for everyone .. I’ve had numerous talons and eclipses over the years that were daily driven and daily beat to hell at over 500whp most issues I had were due to myself lol like launching the car street racing and twisting spines off axles lol, shattered t cases , busted transmissions .. once I built my own trans , made my own tcase brace and got a twin disk clutch I had no issues other than a few blown turbo seals , lifted cylinder heads and pushed coolant on one due to someone not properly torquing the head studs which was a simple fix with a trq wrench and rtv for the vc gasket
I'm almost done with my evo swap thanks to you for the information and inspiration. I'm only missing the evo 6 cv axle passenger side. Can you provide me with the information of the company that did your cv axle extension and custom driveshaft
I went to a local axle repair shop. Ask around your area
@@MiguelDsm I live in Illinois, I've been asking around, googleling shops around here but I can't find a shop that will do it. Will you mind giving me the shop information so I can contact them?
You ever get the info you needed or figure it out yaself bro?
Question what you think of people buying other peoples builds do they loose credibility for not building it themselves or is it the same as having a shop build it
Where can I buy a 4g63 engine in good condition?
Here me out. SRT4 Swap would be an alternative
Honestly its not a bad move , you have to ger everything but , i dont really see why gs gst spyder and rs 420a if you build and forge them it really no diffrence and crank walk can be remeded on all with very little effort and after that forgeing procesd 500 plus is well kind ove easy
I want to either turbo or 4g63 swap my Eclipse. I'll keep planning and see how it goes.
Depends on your budget and power goals.
If you’re able to get a Gst or Gsx, it’ll be much easier to make power
@@MiguelDsm Sure as the Gst and Gsx already have the 4g63 it would be much easier to build for power. But the Evo swap into a 420a Eclipse seems more customizable so I am definitely considering it.
Insert ben stiller meme here
What would be the top longevity mods for a 420A or 4g63
Lol leaving the 420a alone and for the 4g63 just a better Crank Pulley and better belts and gold
Leaving it stock would be ideal. Along side maintnance
I got my dream EVO four years ago it's a TEN, rather 8 or 9. But, I was curious if you can engine swap an EVO eight mottor into a TEN
I’m actually not sure. I’m sure it can
@@MiguelDsm yes I’m sure it can as well. Just nobody seems to know until someone does it I guess. Thanks
Depending on where you live I wouldn't recommend swapping down a year(s)
Would you say a 6-bolt 4g63 is reliable and worth swapping it into a 2g Eclipse
If you have a 420a, no. Mounts don’t line up due to engine orientation
@@MiguelDsm oh okay i see so i would need a gst or gsx then
How much do you want for the red 2G your driving?
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Yea I think to replicate your dsm would be to much for the average joe!
Starting to see a couple pop up here and there
This wouldn’t be cost effective for most but if you don’t mind spending the money and putting in the labor yourself, I’d say it’s worth it to a true enthusiast. Especially if you’ve already got an eclipse shell or something.
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This is such a complicated swap for the average person, and not worth it at all if you already have a 4G 63
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The future is gonna be ls swapped gsx
Why so?
@@MiguelDsm engine swaps are becoming more common and pretty soon a lot of crazy swapped cars even eclipses will pop up
I just want to get rid of mine. Email me. Price is cheap and I have lots of parts.
What is it?
Get rid of what? 😂
Answer:duh
Lol
I’m trying to do the opposite, should I eclipse swap my Evo?
You gain nothing and all the transmission options available for DSMs are garbage compared to what's available to EVOs.
No need. Evos have better drivetrain
I think he’s clowning 🤡. There’s really no benefit to swapping your evo to an eclipse drivetrain.
@@awdobsession717 Its been done before, idk why but I SEENT IT
@@joeyoung4309 just because it’s been done before doesn’t mean it’s worth it or smart. I can’t imagine many have and for good reason. The only exception I could see is if you had an evo shell and a GSX drivetrain laying around and got bored 😂
I know I’m gonna get a lot of flack for this and I know that the 4G63T that came with my car, which is a 91 Mitsubishi eclipse GSX is more superior than a Honda K series, but the 4G63T is getting hard to find and then you have to build it, so I want to do a Honda swap