I finally got to ride my new custom bike-and I have a lot to say about it!
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2022
- In the last episode we built up my custom titanium hardtail mountain bike, which was made according to an exhaustive list of specifications. At the end of the build I immediately got sick and could not ride, so in this video I actually take the bike out and give my thoughts on it.
I worked with Dave from Sage to design this bike. It was a lot of sending measurements back and forth, sending photos, pictures of tape measures, videos, etc. We went through several versions and worked through all the details, like ensuring the front tire would clear the downtube, and ensuring my seatpost would fully insert and end up at the perfect ride heigh when extended to 150mm.
It's easy to find a 27.5 bike that fits me, but not a 29er. In the realm of 29ers, the Sage Powerline was already pretty close to what I wanted, since it has a pretty short reach and a nimble geometry for covering ground-I just wanted it to be a little more aggressive, but not TOO aggressive to where it's just a plow. So we ended up with a little longer reach and chainstay than stock, also an increased wheelbase and shorter standover height. If it wasn't for Dave at Sage, I would have messed up the geometry pretty bad.
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Who can find the missing Easter egg?
Right side of seat tube between bottle cage bolts, silhouette of sasquatch.
The knife has a silhouette of Oscar on one side.
It says powerline because you will be going electric speeds
The GoPro mount that is removable on the head tube? There logo is held in with screws and you make things. 😊
Dog outline?
I really like your take on geometry. It feels like manufacturers (and many cycling journalists) are pushing everyone towards super-slack, super-long bikes that don't make sense for many riders, especially those of us on the East Coast.
I agree. Most bike companies will say I should be a large, but I feel more comfortable on a medium. I have ridden a large but never really like it or being so stretched out.
@@TeddyParker no one listens when I tell them this. If you need the aggressive numbers for the trails you ride go ahead. But mf's out there being 5'6" on a large with a 480 reach is genuinely insane.
@@TeddyParker I guess you know that from experience.
Interestingly, as a tall person I love the way geo is going, I just think manufacturers need to add a larger size or a smaller size or both to just fill in the gap, because the slack is nice, but only when the reach and stand over are properly fitting to the rider
@@TeddyParker I didn't see that comment as mean, just a guess
Atherton bikes offer custom fit for like $100 extra, apart from the ~20 sizes they already have. May not be a very economical business idea but it’s the best for the riders
Yeah that's really good to know! I don't even see how charging the $100 is worth it for them.
@@SethsBikeHacks They are not starting at the budget end of the market. It's pretty much custom from the get go. Awesome bikes, but at a price to match
Awesome! Now all I need to do is sell a kidney + $100. 😄
@@SethsBikeHacks They use 3d printed titanium joints which makes it really easy to customize
@@Nythos_ And round carbon tubes which are easy to cut to length
It is a HUGE eye opener when you ride a bike built just for you. Many of the people worried about trendy Geo would get shut up pretty fast when they first try a bike REALLY fit to them.
Totally agree!
I bought a gravel bike from Sage. We used dimensions that I got from a fitter. Dave was a blast to work with. When I got it all put together this summer I was blown away on how comfortable the bike felt, especially for long rides. I am now a total believer that getting a bike fit and getting a custom frame is the way to go, but wholly cow was that an expensive way to go. The bike fit was by far the cheapest part of the whole thing.
So happy to hear that you are loving your bike! I was curious how you have been doing. I hope all is well.
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This is my dream, to one day have a titanium hardtail built for specifically myself only. Happy for you Seth that you were able to get yours to enjoy.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you, your family, and all your viewers/subscribers
Couldn't agree more, I almost pulled the trigger on the binary maniak bike that Steve from hardtailparty helped design. But I just couldn't justify the expense when there are other bills to pay!
@@juansanchez-tr1dq Right there with you, two kids on college $$$$>🪽🪽
@@johnnydoe66 rip, hope college works out, bad time to be student
Why would you wish Merry Christmas to someone who is Jewish? If the name Seth didn't give it away, if him specifically mentioning both Hanukkah and Christmas in the video didn't give it away, nor his looks, I'm not sure what would. When in doubt, happy holidays is best.
@Justin W I celebrate Christmas and I am sure Seth isn't the weak minded type to get offended. Plus, I don't judge someone by the color of their skin. So, I am not changing my beliefs or how I greet someone. That's part of our society's problem, too many people are offended and of weak character. Just because someone is offended, doesn't make them right.
Custom sized bikes are the way to go once you work up the nerve to spend that amount of money. Cannot wait to get my Neuhaus Metalworks Humgingbird in the spring. Hardtails are so much fun. Enjoy the bike.
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Great job Seth, that bike looks insane. Truly awesome how you have grown so so much 😮. GREAT JOB!🎉
Has he grown? He looks just as short as in previous videos ;)
@@Jessev741 hahahahahah😐
I am on the other end of the scale at 6,10 and I had a similar experience when I first road my xxl transition spire 1 1/2 years ago
Transition has XXL! Yay, added to my list. It's a short list. Santa Cruz, Trek, and now Transition.
@@MrTemplarViking they have the biggest xxl at 535 mm reach for spire
6,7 here...i will never go under 520 reach again, no matter how hard it is to get around switchbacks
@@breakr4144 canyons new strive is pretty long if your looking also geometron is a great brand for big bikes
My God you must have a high center of gravity! Does it affect your handling?
A great hardtail that fits well is a thing of beauty. Congrats on an incredible bike.
I am still saving for that binary maniak you helped design... that's a sweet looking bike!
@Bermpeak001 , go scam someone else please, not interested!
Ask it for review)
@@BRUTALIY I've reviewed two of sage's bikes already, they're wonderful bikes.
7:03 I'M BUILT! DIFFRUNT!
Love the bike though omg that is a dream hardtail. We're both right around the same height and that thing has me drooling.
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I think it's interesting how your first injury from this bike happened on the whaletail, which is painted on the front of the bike! Blood ritual complete!
Congrats! That's a beautiful paint job, I like the color. 😍
3:00 breaks the mount he was so proud of 😂
The bike looks incredible. So happy to see a small business get the widespread publicity they so clearly deserve, even more so a bike manufacturer. They have to be almost as stoked as you are!
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, we are stoked beyond words. It was a pleasure to work with Seth as he is truly as genuine in person as he is in the videos.
The way you have the saddle jacked all the way forward makes your effective STA even steeper than 76.21. If you leave it there you could have gone steeper. Great bike!
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you got to finally ride and i had to change my shorts...not only is it gorgeous but the sounds it makes(or lack there of) are super special...
I went to 165mm cranks this year as well and really like them. Helped with my occasional knee pain along with slightly improved balance/stability, tech climbing, and acceleration have all been my experience. Might even try 160mm or 155mm...
How tall are you
@@spyder027 5'11" but with shortish legs
Sweet ride. Love the paint scheme with the personal touches. When you find or build something that fits like a glove the confidence it gives you is intoxicating and dangerous
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I have a SAGE MTB and I love my hardtail. It just rips. I agree that it feels like it’s part of me.
So happy to hear you love your bike Jeff! That gives us a warm feeling inside! Keep up the great riding.
Fellow short guy here and seeing your geometry statistics reinforces why I feel so comfortable on my "undersized" DH bike.
i told myself at the beggining of the video that Seth was gonna realize he's been riding the wrong size bike his whole life lol. that is a beautiful bike, and i cant wait to see ti featured more. great work Sage!
Thank you for the kind words Chris!
Great work!! You look really good on that bike!!
I'm a similar height to Seth. I recently went from a reach of 450mm down to 435mm and loved the change. I ride janky trails on the North Shore so I like slacker HTAs (I ride 63). But with the reduced reach, my bikes came to life. I like the stability of the slacker HTA combined with the mobility from the shorter reach. I also went from 165mm to 155mm cranks. LOVE LOVE LOVE the shorter cranks. I'm not sure why we've been so stuck on 170s for so long. I'm telling you, if you're in that 5'7/5'8 height range, and liked going to 165, don't shy away from trying 155! Less pedal strikes, easier on the knees on the climbs, and better foot position on the downs (for people in that height range). One formula to try, is take your inseam in mm (with bike shoes on) and multiple by 0.197 to get your crank length.
Best way to see if a bike's geometry is right for you - just go ride it. Thanks for pushing the importance of geometry without telling me what geometry I should ride.
this video released literally when i just finished part 1. glad to see how far this channel has gotten
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Who needs diamondback when you have your own bike bult by SAGE.
"I'm not a tall person scaled down, I'm totally different" YES SETH YES. I'M GONNA GRAFFITI THIS ON SEVERAL COMPANY BUILDINGS.
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By far one of the raddest hardtails I've ever seen. Love it! 👌
I really enjoy watching your work! Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos!!
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I never thought a hardtail could get cooler! Great job both Seth and SAGE Bikes on the design. Keep it up Seth!
Much appreciated for the kind words! Happy Holidays to you!
When I first started watching this channel Seth was teaching me to hone my bunny hop and wheelie drop skills. He was hitting little dirt jump loops and some occasional street riding in South Florida. Now the channel is based in one of the MTB meccas and is responsible for the construction of a public bike park. It serves as a desirable showcase and proving ground for new products and brands. All the result of lots of creativity and hard work. Keep ripping and sharing it all with us, what a great way to while away the hours until we can all be on the trails
having the perfect bike is great, I rode every XL model offered by all the big bike companies before i decided just to build my own frame, and it’s literally the best bike i have ever owned and ever will own
if you're comfortable sharing, it'd be very interesting to see your body measurements to line up to how this bike fits you (height, armspan, inseam, etc.). really excellent explanation of how geometry depends on all parts of the bike and body. also would be interesting to see you get a professional "fit" from a road bike expert, they've been doing these calculations (as best as they can) for a long time!
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Now I am imagining a collab with Hardtail Party in Sedona and putting this Titan dream on the trail with his Maniak. :D
Yaaaaaassss!
Agreed!
Love your stuff man
This is what I felt when I sat on my stumpjumper the first time. It is a magical feeling
I'm happy for you. Happy holidays. Thank you so much.
Evans MTB Saga was complaining that you spent so much on this bike. I feel like if you enjoy mountain biking and you want a really good bike and you dont car about the price you should do it.
Evans so jealous
That channel us mostly whining although it may have some useful information for those on budget..
For me a custom bike would solve a whole other set of issues.
I'm a mountain biker at heart, but since there are very few good challenging trails within reach for me, I mostly ride and enjoy paved paths now with some light unpaved sections, so I just want an all-road bike (between road and gravel) with MTB inspired characteristics.
Basically this means I want a longer and slightly (not too much) slacker road bike for smoother cornering at speed, better control and better comfort.
I think I should start saving up for a custom geo all-road bike..
I felt this way when I discovered gravel bikes. While I thoroughly appreciate feeling the need for speed, I also thoroughly enjoy going off-road. So I'm mentally preparing for a future custom Ti soft tail gravel bike with adjustable drop outs for touring. Lotsa luck with your dream bike!
You deserve that bike. Thank YOU for riding with me :)
This bike cost more than my entire year of living expenses in Bangkok and Cambodia, but it's clear that you are sooo happy with it, and I love to see that!
That bike is awesome i also liked the way you picked the geometry fun, fast, shred mode, Having a frame fit to you is very pleasant you can throw it around and ride all day without feeling fatigue. I wish i had that bike i would ride trails all day, everyday but that is just a dream for me, i hope this christmas i have a new bike just like that 😄. Awesome job!!💯 been watching since 2015 when are you gonna release new bike hacks? i missed those and learned a lot thank you for those bike hacks been usuing them till now.
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As a 5'2" man, THANK YOU! I highly recommend looking into Lee McCormack (Lee Likes Bikes) "rider area distance" and his other work on bike fit. He's done a ton of work on it, and makes a very good case that almost all people ride bikes that are too big for them these days.
Makes a very good case? Bud, that’s easy…people are different sizes and bikes come in like 3…not difficult knowing that things mass produced aren’t custom fit. I’ll blow your mind some more. “Fitted” hats are just elastic stretchable hats and aren’t custom fit. I know, mind blown right?
YES!!! Just asked Seth to watch those episodes of “Joy of Bike” and the R.A.D measuring system to see how close Seth’s new bike is to Lee’s measuring system. This could help so many if the R. A. D. Is legit.
@@kmazzanti Nice, I hope he watches it! And then trades in that medium Revel of his for a small.
@@kmazzanti It's debateable. RAD is probably more applicable to old school riding technique (the hang off the back style) vs modern technique (stay centered and get low)
@@mrvwbug4423I calculated my RAD and found that my setup at the time was +6mm off my ideal. My stem stack height at the time was already too low and scary to ride steep descents in. Now I'm a whole +16mm off after adding a spacer under my stem and it turned me into a way more confident descender.
RAD is good for nerding out on geometry, but it's definitely outdated on modern bikes as you say, and the average spender would be spending more time on math than actually riding.
I've been riding a 120mm Commencal hardtail for the past 6 years. You guys with your fullsus and 160+mm of travel are so spoiled😂😂
this is hands down the best looking hardtail ive ever seen !
Love what you do!
Hey Seth, when will you be doing more 10 MTB products videos? Love your vids btw.
Yes Please!!! I see a lot of people going from bmx to mtb. If you can do some products for bmxer's going to mtb that would be amazing!
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Great Bike Seth.
Nice to see someone else going all out on a Hardtail. Looks like you’re going to be having huge fun on that bike.
I’ve a similar spec’d HT with the Berd spokes. What a different those wheels make !!!
Enjoy !!!
Such a cool bike. I ride a Sage Barlow and think what Dave is doing at Sage is so awesome.
You ROCK Terence! Glad you are loving your Barlow!
Titanium has a ride quality you can try to describe but really only makes sense once you ride one.
Well said!
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165mm cranksets are a godsend for short people ( as much as 175-180 for giants like me)
I'm 1.9m and I'd try 165mm...
@@jonl8816 depends on the use case.
The custom fit shows, super dope Bike!
I'm on the shorter side too. What I miss in a larger bike is the space to add things. I can't put 2 large water bottles in my frame. I can't put a rear light below my wedge because there is no space. When I rent bikes on trips, the dropper can't fully expand because I can't reach the pedals. Cycling for me is always about adapting what I want vs. what I get.
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Just bought my first real mountain bike and at 5'2" it was an ordeal. I think I'm always gonna need to trial a bike before purchasing.
What bike is it?
@@618outdoors I ended up with a used yeti SB140
@@dorothyvankomen4109 sweet!!
I look at a *TON* of mountain bikes on Instagram. It's the only reason I use it, and the number of times I've stared at them is probably in the thousands. This is one of, if not *THE* nicest bikes I've seen. That blue camo with the raw titanium asthetic, and how contrast with the kaahima looks so dope.
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At 5'0" I have had five custom bikes, still ride four of them, also riding on 135mm crank arms for over 10 yrs....Great Video, Thanks
Note to self: Never buy a custom bike frame; I will be ruined for life.
Who else loves SETH!!! ❤❤
@Funky Monk what…
this is a cringe compliment
@@ashtons.2282 so is the name Ashton
@@nickyocom1699nice one nickyocom1699 😎😎😎🤙
Who doesn't...?
Thanks for posting!
I'm right there with you, it took AGES to find a bike that I felt comfortable on; I'm 6'3, but my legs are pretty long, so no matter how far up i oushed the seat, I was always feeling like my quads were working overtime, and at worst - it was like my knees were in my ears like I was some kind of clown on a small bike. After watching and enjoying your videos for the past few years i've learned how customization is a big part of riding, and back then I didn't even know that changing something as small the pedal arm length could make such a difference - but it changed my enjoyment massively! I can go for (no exaggeration) 3-4 times longer out on trails without all that extra stress being directed towards my knees and quads, I feel like I can take big strides when I'm building up speed, much more comfortably - THANK YOU
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Custom bikes are amazing. My super short 4'10" wife had a custom steel bike made for her by Rodriguez (R&E) and its awesome. She says that it's the first bike that's ever fit her.
Now i want to see a video where you introduce the people that build and painted your bike and showcase their work
That would be super cool, but we are happy hanging out behind the scenes and letting the bikes speak for themselves. Of course, we are always happy to chat with people if you ever want to learn more about Sage.
I feel you on the properly sized bike. I'm 6'6, and though i don't ride mountain bikes, I do ride road bikes. I got a vintage 10 speed that was abnormally big, and have been riding it every since.
That's awesome that you were able to do this would love to see a full suspension setup with adjusted geometry.
The way you explain things is on point, especially for someone who is getting into biking.
Watching this in 240p was an experience, I could've watched it higher quality, but I didnt want to wait till I got home
Finally you shortened the reach ! We can see that fits you on video! Check out Lee Mccormack’s Dialed book for even more radness !
Dude that is so cool!
What a way you’ve come since your days on your Trek
It’s so cool to see you build and ride a bike as amazing as this
I wish I could have a Sage anytime in my life!
-Dude! Do you want a Ferrari or a Sage?
-A Sage, of course!
-Why the heck on earth?
-Because I can ride it every single day of the rest of my life… And enjoy it!
YES!!!!! That is what we are talking about! RIght here!
Great bike, channel, and growth. You deserve it. Can't wait to see what else you got down the pipeline. Have an amazing holiday.
Glad you're feeling better & can enjoy your new ride. 🚲 Give Oscar, the trail dog, a big hug. 🐕
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Sneaking the OEG fixie blade flex in there…. Nice choice Seth. Eddie would be pleased.
Those eeWings look amazing. BUT- us shorter folks often need something shorter than 165 cranks. I’m trying Canfield 150 and 155 right now, and I really feel the difference vs the 165s I rode most of my life.
Congrats Berm... enjoy your build, Blessings to You All @ B.Peak !
Great bike! Congratulations, your videos are outstanding; thank you for sharing.
Love your new bike ! Very happy you found the perfect builder to partner with. I am sure you will love it forever. Happy Holidays to you and your family !
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Thank you for making these videos they have changed my riding for the better see you in the new year
Congrats on the bike, seems like everything fell into place on that build. I’m really happy for you! Cheers to 2023.
Love it! Beautiful frame and build. I still have my custom built steel hard tail from the early nineties but cant ride it on trail anymore because my back cant take it! I love to see what you have done here bringing attention to this craft/art that many can benefit from. Happy holidays Seth!
If you haven’t tried getting a dress shirt made to order, check out Proper Cloth or Trumaker. It’s cheaper than buying a good shirt and adjusting it, and it’s worth it if you’re not a standard size. They do trousers as well. Given you only need a few good shirts it’s worth it.
Love the bike, Seth! That "Blue Ridge" camo is sick! Enjoy!
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Very cool BIKE! It's amazing when you hear the true feedback from a fully custom bike. I worked in bikes shops for years and you hear great things and wonderful things. This was a great recap.
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i still remember 15 year old me watching your vids with the old trek hardtail about wheelies stoppies and parking lot skills XD and now this is how far everything has got! so glad ive been keeping up with the channel last couple of years!
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Congratulations! It is a beautiful bike. I just got word from David this week about the Storm King GP frame that they just built for me. They just sent it to the person who does the cerakote, and I am very excited to see what he comes up with. I hope to have this bike finally built this spring. Woohoo!
Awesome bike! Congratulations!!
I love the bike. I'm fortunate to have a Sage as well. One comment: While it's true that a custom bike that fits well is a wonderful thing, a custom bike that ends up not fitting, or you don't love for whatever reason, is unfortunately worth very little in the resale market.
Just something to keep in mind.
Hey Sam! Glad you are loving your Sage and even more so that you are also a fan of Seth's channel. I hope all is well with you.
Some of your videos have made me want to get into mountain biking, it looks fun and I already like to bike not only for fun, but as my form of transportation since I dont want a car. I've also realized that I want to go into bicycle mechanics as a career path with help from your videos. Keep up the good work with your videos and enjoy that awesome looking bike
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Just like how warriors of old named and blessed their weapons, your bike definitely deserves a name & blessing.
Awesome!!! You should have the painter paint your fork lowers to match the rear of the bike!! Would look so factory.
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great video! tahnk you! and a neat bike! so stocked about the camo paint job. cool idea. Greets from Germany
Congratulations on your new bike! It's an amazing machine from the materials to all the little details, and looks like it fits you perfect.
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Sweet Ride!! Looks great!
sweet bike and video brings me back to your starting days
really nice bike seth, you deserved every bit of it.
I think if I would build a bike like this the color scheme would be basically the same but instead of camo I would go for stripes like in Avatar (big fan here)
got a Cube Reaction SL from 2018 and still riding it everyday mostly to work but I enjoy having it, had a cheap Hardtail bike before and the rear Axle broke 3 times so I decided to get some more money in my hand and get something decend at least for what I do, a lot of commuting but also going off trail every now and then in the forest
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What a cool bike! So well thought out and Perfect for you dude!
I miss seeing you ride!
I have been following you, Brian and Alex for all about the same time. You 3 are the only ones I do follow...
So glad to see you actually riding again
I’m still so excited that this is your first 29er