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As I near the end of this, I have deep gratitude to both Gentlemen. Gratitude for the sometimes nuanced discussion, gratitude for the manner in which both really listem=n to each other, and gratitude for the manner in which they serve their own respective "why". Please get these two back together again!
No matter how much money you make it only collects trinkets. When you love actually care about living and doing things for others, something shifts it makes life worth living.
This point of view is pretty narrow and excluding. Have you ever been in position with no money at all? How does that feel? Have you faced a problem that is really hard to resolve yourself, but hiring a person with experience would make it 10 times faster and easier (Therapist or coach for example). Would you be happier living in a run down studio apartment in ghetto neighborhood, but caring for everyone there, even guys who regularly rob you? Or living in your own house somewhere on a farm with good means of transportation? Money is not only used to buy "trinkets" or commodities, it is also used as a tool to solve issues and help you thrive and expand your own "Why". People who don't realize that, will never build a good relationship with money and keep blaming their financial problems on others, OR keep buying lambos trying to fill the void inside (there are two sides of that issue, yeah). So think about what good money can do for you, and how it can help you with your mission, and there will always be a choice to either spend it or invest it into growth.
seriously every time I carve the time to listen to this podcast I feel like you are peeling away the facades of social constrictions and grow seeds of authenticity! Amazing conversation as always and big thank you
Hey Michael - your stuff has been helping a lot, I'm a longboard surfer, competed on the WSL Longboard tour last year and putting all my efforts into my mental game for 2024 as that's my biggest barrier competitively, appreciate all your work. Hope to chat some day, thanks again 🙏🤙
Thank you for the reminder that a slow circuitous route may (or may not be) just as effective as jumping on a jet plane and getting to the destination faster. I needed to hear that today!
When Dr. Gervais says "Modern leadership will be marked by the ability to apply basic psychology." I went crazy as if my favorite team just scored the winner in a final. I couldn't agree more. For some reason I feel like I needed to hear that to confirm my own thinking. Weird, I know. Awesome work. Thank you.
Fantastic talk! Thank you, Dr. Mike and Simon! One thing about Maslow, though (I'm a big fan of his theory too, Dr. Mike): cannot say he was wrong. He propose a theory, which actually laid the basis for all the the researchers that came later and worked on it to test it, improve it, fine-tune it, find the exceptions. The same thing happened with Freud's psychoanalytic theory: it was the first draft. To take even further Simon's words about Maslow's theory, there are so many cases in which the order changes. In cases of trauma, CSA, domestic violence survivors, they might give up their physical safety to feel even for a short time a feel of belonging, or love.
as a leader riding the leadership continuum, I found the back and forth incredibly helpful. as others have noted, I learned much from not only the content, but also the mode of the dialogue. thanks to you both! "we don't teach people how to look after other people" is one of my favorite takeaways.
Thank you for sharing. It would be really good to have a conversation with two people who listen to you, just like these two souls do. This was refeshing and great blog.
Thank you for the reminder that a slow circuitous route may (or may not be) just as effective as jumping on a jet plane and getting to the destination faster. I needed to hear that today! I’ve been binge listening for two days and am striving to become a better human by using some of these techniques and skills
Thank you Simon for the insight about focus. Because I too think outside the fishbowl into the ocean. Ditto on the feedback, give it to me straight now chaser.
Loved this chat between you both. It was like sitting in the pub with a couple of friends after work 😄 But an inspiring chat and not a drunken ramble 😂. Bought Simon's "Why" audiobook recently and it's good...but he's even better here.
I love Simon Sinek. As career coach, I'm always encouraging students to check him out. Also, the podcaster looks like the businessman version of Billie Joe from Green Day.
This was a really wonderful and insightful conversation, thank you both 🙏🔥 I think the discussion around betting on leaders was a good one. Leaders fall into the Pareto principle, meaning 20% of people have 80% of the impact. So betting on leaders is scientifically a fantastic bet.
Thank you guys, this was such an organic conversation. It made me realise how important it is to actually 'want' to have a conversation and not just lean on "it needs to happen". Thoroughly enjoyed the depth covered, and a highlight for me was the AGENCY part. ❤
When thinking about agency. The poem "Our Greatest Fear" comes to mind. We all have an agent inside of us and depending on our environment we can choose how hard we can flex who we really are.
Thankyou for bringing simon in the show. Very healthy and nourishing conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it, the reason I listen to sinek is the lens from which he is looking at future which is absolutely different from many others out there.
Two things 1) Always love listening to Simon’s interviews so much brilliance. “No plan survives contact with the enemy.” Stay flexible. 2) Warning: I’m about to take the comments in a TOTALLY different direction - Simon Sinek is also SO HOT! #thatisall
Insightful! Dynamic discussion. P.S. Agree it's best to avoid making guarantees in the people business, as Simon says. Would be like a coach guaranteeing an athlete will make it to the Superbowl if they follow their training plan :)
Simon is to corporate America, what antibiotics are to infections. As he says they, in general mostly being finite players, don't want to hear his infinite message because they are entirely too focused on finite tasks. I have found in my coaching business the only time players at least want to hear the infinite message is after they've recognized they are losing too many finite games, and / or they've been infused with one or more infinite mindsets in their ecosystem. Unfortunately, finite mindsets can corrupt an infinite ecosystem quicker. On another note Doctor Mike, this is the first time that I've listened to your podcast. The number of subscribers does not match your interview ability. Stay the course. You connect with your audience and your interviewee very well. As you know this is a infinite game. I am sure you've done all your homework on following the metrics and how long it will take increase your RUclips subscribership. Here is another example of the infinite game. Keep after it. Keep bringing on quality guests like this, and you will be 10xing regularly. #WinnersWinANDLosersLose
That's all i want work work i don't go out i don't drink but my friend is a solid tree i'm all always stay in a house if i don't have a work work here in the house i have work if i'm bored i'm going to play the music feel good i'm going to play the music somebody else i'm good person i don't want to competition somebody else i'm just want silent be quiet working
If i get tired to my work and too much thinking and just i want to play the music i don't want to take too much i just happy that the song look application no i just i want to play if i want to play; if i want to play i play if i don't want i don't want to play i'm going to play
This is topical "management speak" meant to keep their employees in line. This is all false, according to both sides. For an employee, they won't take any "feedback" if they don't like you or they don't FEEL appreciated. For the employer, you'll never hear the truth of your policies and effectiveness until someone quits (and that's if they'll talk to you). Work increases/ decreases or betters or worsens depending on how the employee feels. People are not droids (yet)! And if you're saying, "This is why I can't wait for AI to advance", people without jobs AKA money don't buy your products. Creditors stop lending to people who can't pay them back. Sinek is good at being empathetic on both sides...but the results are short-term for the success he's talking about. Translation: it doesn't work!
I respect Simon, but the analogy with losing weight represents a simplistic view. Losing weight is not only about discipline, it is a about stress levels, insulin resistance, hormones imbalances, lack of sleep and other factors….
Not true, it's possible to lose weight (fat) without addressing those individual categories. You're over complicating the way we gain/lose and maintain weight. It's a basic physics problem concerning energy (calorie) management.
Wtf! I want to die knowing these. I'm always wrong about leadership. God forbid me for destructing someone's confidence. wtf! I think I'm always a winner. After watching these I realize what a loser I was
HAHA simon mentions financial advertisements and the whole "past performance doesn't guarantee future earnings" and its literally the exact same thing as the sponsor of this videos disclaimer 😂😂😂
Not picking but Simon Sinek shows his ignorance when he talks about Maslow. Maslow never created a pyramid. The pyramid was created by a business consulting company. He also never said you had to start in progress in a specific manner and he said transcendence (selfless service) was above self actualización.
Maslow’s “pyramid” concept was actually stolen from indigenous people and flipped upside down/changed. Have you heard of this? I highly recommend looking it up on Google. Which business created it according to your statement?
Thought Simon Sinek is a little off about Maslow's hierarchy of needs; contrary to how it looks like in the pyramid, each level aren't necessarily pre-requisite to climb to the next (upper) level, an individual also can experience different needs simultaneously or move back and forth to different levels- it's not a linear progression- just like how they meander between topics here but still "land that bird into a perch in the end" 😂😂😂 - Overall a brilliant conversation- the amount of wisdom and authenticity in this episode is astonishing, 🫶
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What a refreshing, inspiring, and wonderfully intellectual conversation. It was a pleasure being a "fly on the wall" for it.
As I near the end of this, I have deep gratitude to both Gentlemen. Gratitude for the sometimes nuanced discussion, gratitude for the manner in which both really listem=n to each other, and gratitude for the manner in which they serve their own respective "why". Please get these two back together again!
I really appreciate how down-to-earth and confident this guy is. Your podcast is truly fantastic. Thanks a bunch!
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Totally agree. He's very easy to listen to and is so good at communicating his topic.
I love Simon Sinek! Really changed my outlook and leadership. Looking forward to watching this one!
This is a fantastic conversation. Michael, thanks for bringing Simon on. You two together made for a great conversation.
Glad you enjoyed it!
No matter how much money you make it only collects trinkets. When you love actually care about living and doing things for others, something shifts it makes life worth living.
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This point of view is pretty narrow and excluding. Have you ever been in position with no money at all? How does that feel?
Have you faced a problem that is really hard to resolve yourself, but hiring a person with experience would make it 10 times faster and easier (Therapist or coach for example). Would you be happier living in a run down studio apartment in ghetto neighborhood, but caring for everyone there, even guys who regularly rob you? Or living in your own house somewhere on a farm with good means of transportation? Money is not only used to buy "trinkets" or commodities, it is also used as a tool to solve issues and help you thrive and expand your own "Why". People who don't realize that, will never build a good relationship with money and keep blaming their financial problems on others, OR keep buying lambos trying to fill the void inside (there are two sides of that issue, yeah).
So think about what good money can do for you, and how it can help you with your mission, and there will always be a choice to either spend it or invest it into growth.
Great discussion You've revealed the invisible to be clear and visible to create a masterpiece strategic plan it call "infinite games". Thanks.🙏😊
seriously every time I carve the time to listen to this podcast I feel like you are peeling away the facades of social constrictions and grow seeds of authenticity! Amazing conversation as always and big thank you
Hey Michael - your stuff has been helping a lot, I'm a longboard surfer, competed on the WSL Longboard tour last year and putting all my efforts into my mental game for 2024 as that's my biggest barrier competitively, appreciate all your work. Hope to chat some day, thanks again 🙏🤙
Honestly.... I have a lot of respect for Simon Sinek.....😊
Thank you for the reminder that a slow circuitous route may (or may not be) just as effective as jumping on a jet plane and getting to the destination faster.
I needed to hear that today!
When Dr. Gervais says "Modern leadership will be marked by the ability to apply basic psychology." I went crazy as if my favorite team just scored the winner in a final. I couldn't agree more. For some reason I feel like I needed to hear that to confirm my own thinking. Weird, I know. Awesome work. Thank you.
Fantastic talk! Thank you, Dr. Mike and Simon!
One thing about Maslow, though (I'm a big fan of his theory too, Dr. Mike): cannot say he was wrong. He propose a theory, which actually laid the basis for all the the researchers that came later and worked on it to test it, improve it, fine-tune it, find the exceptions. The same thing happened with Freud's psychoanalytic theory: it was the first draft.
To take even further Simon's words about Maslow's theory, there are so many cases in which the order changes. In cases of trauma, CSA, domestic violence survivors, they might give up their physical safety to feel even for a short time a feel of belonging, or love.
What a talk
It was absolute pleasure to listen to both of you
Beautiful conversation, thanks for sharing 🤍🙏🏽
as a leader riding the leadership continuum, I found the back and forth incredibly helpful. as others have noted, I learned much from not only the content, but also the mode of the dialogue. thanks to you both! "we don't teach people how to look after other people" is one of my favorite takeaways.
Thank you for sharing. It would be really good to have a conversation with two people who listen to you, just like these two souls do. This was refeshing and great blog.
Thank you for the reminder that a slow circuitous route may (or may not be) just as effective as jumping on a jet plane and getting to the destination faster.
I needed to hear that today!
I’ve been binge listening for two days and am striving to become a better human by using some of these techniques and skills
An Inspiring conversation! It was a investiment spending my time listening .
Thank you Simon for the insight about focus. Because I too think outside the fishbowl into the ocean. Ditto on the feedback, give it to me straight now chaser.
This gave me so much insight and joy! Amazing video and love these two 🎉✨ so hilarious but inspiring and insightful 😂☺️
Oh I didn't expect I'd enjoy it so much! Great discussion!
Magical for certain!! Thank you, fellas!!!❤
I want to hear the "don't forget the story" story, that you never came back to. 😅
Great talk!
I knew they won't come back to it in the moment Dr. Mike said that 🤦♂🤣
What a GREAT conversation! Great banter! Loved it. Wish it was much longer!!
Us too!
Great empathic conversation ☘️
Loved this chat between you both. It was like sitting in the pub with a couple of friends after work 😄 But an inspiring chat and not a drunken ramble 😂. Bought Simon's "Why" audiobook recently and it's good...but he's even better here.
I love Simon Sinek. As career coach, I'm always encouraging students to check him out.
Also, the podcaster looks like the businessman version of Billie Joe from Green Day.
This was a really wonderful and insightful conversation, thank you both 🙏🔥
I think the discussion around betting on leaders was a good one. Leaders fall into the Pareto principle, meaning 20% of people have 80% of the impact. So betting on leaders is scientifically a fantastic bet.
Thank you guys, this was such an organic conversation. It made me realise how important it is to actually 'want' to have a conversation and not just lean on "it needs to happen".
Thoroughly enjoyed the depth covered, and a highlight for me was the AGENCY part. ❤
This is an awesome interview!
Stimulating and insightful,
Great advice given, I've learned quite a bit.
Thanks to Simon and Dr Mike💞💞✌
When thinking about agency. The poem "Our Greatest Fear" comes to mind. We all have an agent inside of us and depending on our environment we can choose how hard we can flex who we really are.
absolutely ultimately awesome talk, ideas & their exploration to all spheres 👍🙏🏻
Great conversation!!!.👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Thankyou for bringing simon in the show. Very healthy and nourishing conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it, the reason I listen to sinek is the lens from which he is looking at future which is absolutely different from many others out there.
"We abandon process for shortcuts"
Amen
The Team is more important than the individual… Morale is real and the consequences are brutal when it is ignored.
Two things 1) Always love listening to Simon’s interviews so much brilliance. “No plan survives contact with the enemy.” Stay flexible. 2) Warning: I’m about to take the comments in a TOTALLY different direction - Simon Sinek is also SO HOT! #thatisall
thank u guys
I am learning so much here. Thank you both
WOW IT IS VERY GOOD IDEA WE ARE LEARN TO MUCH FORM You MAM
Both great minds, wondered why this coversation did not take place long ago!!
Help others, is what generations of women were trained to do.
Women have a natural nurture, you're not trained to do anything, it's built in.
I skipped back 10 seconds about 4 times to laugh at this moment 59:08 - definitely an enjoyable episode!
I think Simon work shines even more when reflected in Michael podcast
Insightful!
Dynamic discussion.
P.S. Agree it's best to avoid making guarantees in the people business, as Simon says. Would be like a coach guaranteeing an athlete will make it to the Superbowl if they follow their training plan :)
I loveeeeeeeeee Simon
fantastic....really fantastic,,, "the earlt bird catches the worm' what about the early worm🤔🤔😚
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“Save the Duck” it is a great brand 🌍
Wow 🤯 the doggie dog world 🌎 Reminds me of where I worked before leaving corporate America 🇺🇸
Simon is to corporate America, what antibiotics are to infections. As he says they, in general mostly being finite players, don't want to hear his infinite message because they are entirely too focused on finite tasks. I have found in my coaching business the only time players at least want to hear the infinite message is after they've recognized they are losing too many finite games, and / or they've been infused with one or more infinite mindsets in their ecosystem.
Unfortunately, finite mindsets can corrupt an infinite ecosystem quicker.
On another note Doctor Mike, this is the first time that I've listened to your podcast. The number of subscribers does not match your interview ability. Stay the course. You connect with your audience and your interviewee very well. As you know this is a infinite game. I am sure you've done all your homework on following the metrics and how long it will take increase your RUclips subscribership. Here is another example of the infinite game. Keep after it.
Keep bringing on quality guests like this, and you will be 10xing regularly.
#WinnersWinANDLosersLose
🩷🤍🩷love this so much
At about 23 minutes, the discussion turns to H2, H3. Please advise as to where I can read about this?
Here's a good outline: www.wellspring.com/blog/pulse-of-innovation-driving-h2-h3-innovations
Thank you!@@FindingMastery
That's all i want work work i don't go out i don't drink but my friend is a solid tree i'm all always stay in a house if i don't have a work work here in the house i have work if i'm bored i'm going to play the music feel good i'm going to play the music somebody else i'm good person i don't want to competition somebody else i'm just want silent be quiet working
If i get tired to my work and too much thinking and just i want to play the music i don't want to take too much i just happy that the song look application no i just i want to play if i want to play; if i want to play i play if i don't want i don't want to play i'm going to play
Simon should be deciding my life choices 😅
This is topical "management speak" meant to keep their employees in line. This is all false, according to both sides. For an employee, they won't take any "feedback" if they don't like you or they don't FEEL appreciated. For the employer, you'll never hear the truth of your policies and effectiveness until someone quits (and that's if they'll talk to you). Work increases/ decreases or betters or worsens depending on how the employee feels. People are not droids (yet)! And if you're saying, "This is why I can't wait for AI to advance", people without jobs AKA money don't buy your products. Creditors stop lending to people who can't pay them back. Sinek is good at being empathetic on both sides...but the results are short-term for the success he's talking about. Translation: it doesn't work!
I respect Simon, but the analogy with losing weight represents a simplistic view. Losing weight is not only about discipline, it is a about stress levels, insulin resistance, hormones imbalances, lack of sleep and other factors….
Not true, it's possible to lose weight (fat) without addressing those individual categories. You're over complicating the way we gain/lose and maintain weight.
It's a basic physics problem concerning energy (calorie) management.
It's all true, but it matters only if you're pro.
🙏🏻⭐️✌🏼💯💚🏆
I'm not a reputation someone i'm good first i'm a good person i'm just i want to feel play the music evaporate the music want to play
Does he look like Tom Cruise??
Better version😂
Wtf! I want to die knowing these. I'm always wrong about leadership. God forbid me for destructing someone's confidence. wtf! I think I'm always a winner. After watching these I realize what a loser I was
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HAHA simon mentions financial advertisements and the whole "past performance doesn't guarantee future earnings" and its literally the exact same thing as the sponsor of this videos disclaimer 😂😂😂
A friend told you to take Ozempic for 5 pounds??? A friend?🤔
Not picking but Simon Sinek shows his ignorance when he talks about Maslow. Maslow never created a pyramid. The pyramid was created by a business consulting company. He also never said you had to start in progress in a specific manner and he said transcendence (selfless service) was above self actualización.
piggyback not a good look Simon
Maslow’s “pyramid” concept was actually stolen from indigenous people and flipped upside down/changed. Have you heard of this? I highly recommend looking it up on Google. Which business created it according to your statement?
Maslow needs are just a scientific study on human needs.. never a tools for management.
Doesn't matter
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52:15
Thought Simon Sinek is a little off about Maslow's hierarchy of needs; contrary to how it looks like in the pyramid, each level aren't necessarily pre-requisite to climb to the next (upper) level, an individual also can experience different needs simultaneously or move back and forth to different levels- it's not a linear progression- just like how they meander between topics here but still "land that bird into a perch in the end" 😂😂😂 - Overall a brilliant conversation- the amount of wisdom and authenticity in this episode is astonishing, 🫶
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