The First Jedi Before The Old Republic (How it all Really Began) - Star Wars Explained
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Who were the Jedi before the time of the Old Republic? Where did the Jedi even start? Before Anakin, Luke Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu, Darth Vader and Palpatine's timeline...Before Malgus and Malak and even Revan. Where did it all begin?
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Did you guys like this type of old lore video?
Want to see more?
Do a vid on the groups of force users that original came from the tho yor and founded the je'daii order
yeah, this was great, good work as always
yea please great vid btw 🤙
LOVE IT!!!!! Thank you!!!
Sure did. Have you done a video on how hyperspace routes work?
Star wars has a consistent history of leaving all the best stuff out of the movies..
Well to be fair it would be hard as hell to live action or animate the mass battles of the past
@@joshuathinker8546 if they can do the avengers for a billion, I'm sure they can do the same for star wars.
@@bbabins45 would you want the kotor story ruined by Disney tho 😬
I would just love to see an old republic movie
I know what u mean, although ..It was refreshing to see Obi wan, Qui-Gon Jinn, and Darth Mauls battles after the excitement-lacking duels in the originals, then we got Anakin, Obi wan, Count Dooku then Yoda’s 1st on the Big screen which was insane at the time.. there’s were good.. and of course Ep.3’s so they took a big step up in the prequels.. I honestly thought Kylo-Ren and Reys was boring in the force awakens ?? Really basic styles like the original Vader/Obi Wan.. they made them way cooler looking in the next 2 movies tho.. we all agree that seeing Ahsoka and Luke was amazing so hopefully Disney gives us some big duels with the High Republic stuff they’re doing . I’m pumped
This is really the kind of direction they should be going, a whole new trilogy about the early, first Jed'ai, like make it really mystical and philosophical.
I want to see a star wars movie with ancient temples and whatnot
@@kriegatron2763 Yes would be awesome, make them look HUGE and like, they are impossible to construct, like built through rock or something. As if constructed using echoes and like a force-bubble, holding the structure in place, floating in the air or something.
It could be seen as ancient but still technologically advanced or something.
I would love that, but their marketing means it has to make sense to a five year old so,…😳
@@waltsears Well i mean with CW, Rebels and now Bad Batch yes that is very much their style, but i've always found The Mandalorian got the balance just right, it appealed to both and had some little dark moments in there too.
Ofcourse it's "Disney" so they will always want to keep that "Family" image. But hopefully they will allow much more creativity with these other directors they're working with, like Deborah Chow on her kenobi series, and Taika Whaititi.
@@RaikenXion well that’s because Jon Favreau made Mandalorian, of course it would be good; he is the baseline between kid friendly and beautiful storytelling; children can get into it easily yet fans can appreciate it greatly
Keanu Reeves as Darth Revan
Luke Goss as Darth Malgus
Charles Dance as Darth Bane
Antony Starr as Darth Malak
Lars Mikkelsen as Darth Nihilus
Ricky Whittle as Darth Bandon
Johnny Depp as Kao Cen Darach
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as Lucien Draay
Colin Farrell as Ven Zallow
Josh Hartnett as Exar Kun
William Moseley as Ulic Qel-Droma
Shazad Latif as Relin Druur
Brendan Fraser as Nico Okarr
I like it i would love to see Ezra and also Asuka as well
@@therevanchistv That could be very interesting. As long as they are not kid friendly, im all for it 😉
@@MichaelHolmgaard I think it would fit perfectly into episode 9 tbh Ezra is roughly around the same age as Luke plus if you watched rebels at all its not a matter of where Asuka went it's when 🤔
@@therevanchistv I actually thought that Benicio Del Toro was gonna play Ezra in Episode 8! I haven't watched the new season, but did watch the last season of Rebels. I was hoping that Ezra would turn dark, which was why I thought he would be an exciting addition to Episode 8 - As a force user of the dark side. But now that he has just become a standard good guy, im not sure. But would be cool, no doubt.
Don't forget the greatest lightsabre duellist, Tulak Hord
The Je'Daii used both light and dark sides of the Force, and considered straying from this balance to be an aberration. They were closely linked with their planet, Tython, which itself was in constant conflict. I feel like you really skimmed over this aspect. The original Force users were never Light centric, and would consider modern Jedi to have completely failed in moderating themselves.
Where can i find this kind of knowledge
@@LeksiHD Not from a Jedi
Yes you are correct.
@@LeksiHD from the dawn of Jedi comics. Which is obvious the narrator didn’t read.
Also, the first Je'Daii were brought by mysterious ships. At that time, the Infinite Empire still existed.
I was expecting him to talk to about the Jedai which were users of both the dark and light side of the force. They technically have everything in balance, and if a person was lean to much toward one side they would send to one of of the two moons which represent light and dark. And how people that were leaning to much to the dark side wanted more power therefore causing a civil war between light and dark.
First Jedi: we better not be destroyed by a couple of bad guys
Palpatine: haha that’s funny
Palpatine to his kids: A long time ago there once was a thing called Jedi and then I said “Execute Order 66”
And then the Jedi “went into hiding”.hahaahahahahjaha*palpatine laugh*
More like every Sith leader ever lol
It only 30k years from this point till order 66, I always give bane the score for order 66. Rule of two made it possible for palpatine to slither his way around the jedi but he did his thing.
George Lucas agreeing to sell Star Wars and Lucas Film, and Bob Iger, who got his greasy, uh greedy little fingers on it, and his Sith cohort Kathleen Kennedy. J. J. Abrams plays the part of Count Dookoo in this story...Rian Johnson is Darth Maul, Bob Iger is Palpatine, and J. J. is Darth Maul. Of course, George Lucas is Obi Wan Kenobi...
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Darth Ani: To me the Jedi we’re the bad guys
It blows my mind that George Lucas really made such an immersive universe
Yeah there can always be another story to be told or a backstory to be told. Its so great
Throughout the books , comics and film it wasn 't just George a lot of people have added new stuff
@@wayneburton512 yup.
Ikr it is crazy how creative he is
indeed. almost as immersive as JRR Tolkein's material... Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit are just tips of the iceberg
SW Theory: mentions 'Legends'
Me: This is where the fun begins
YAAAAAAAAAS!
Flying is for droids
Do they still print Legends?
@@hackman669 absolutely. You can order them on Amazon or at Barnes and Noble
@Z Rhoads I've mentally done that already
Legends: *Deep backstory for the Jedi Order*
Disney: *Shoop da woop we got space wizards*
😂😂😂
Sad but true. Star Wars has become Disney cashcow.
The real kicker is : people will keep buying whatever Disney shits out
@@marcelanoryadi9110
Little rat droppings everywhere --- we're all doomed...
If the old republic movies don't follow legends lore exclusively?
Edgelord fanbois: Disney is ruining Star Wars!!!! MARY SUUUUUUUUUUE!!!!!
If the Old Republic movies DO follow legends lore faithfully and exclusively?
Edgelord fanbois: LOL, DISNEY SUX, NO ORIGINALITY, THROW IT IN THE TRAAASH
@@LARGO125 you just pretty much summed up the SW fanbase my friend.
I wish he talked about the Je’daii, who were the predecessors to the Jedi. They balanced the dark and the light side, similar to the Dai Bendu or the Grey Jedi.
Yes, he spoke of Ashla, but not of Bogen. The Dai Bendu were the true predecessors, as well as many other groups of ancient Force Sensitives, to the Jedi. And he got his order seemingly reversed. First the groups arrived on Tython, and THEN came the Infinite Empire. Before, the earliest Jedi studied both Dark and Light, Ashla and Bogen...after the two MOONS of Tython. It was after the Empire's war that the early Jedi purged the Darkside from their teachings, believing those who used it in the war went too far. They did it out of FEAR. This led to the First Great Schism, and thus the Dark Jedi were exiled, and would later become the first Lords of the Sith. Theory tried, but I guess he never read the comics, and this this was incomplete.
I thought that too, but is jedaii history only canon, only legends, or part of both?
No no power unlimited power the great and noble people of Scotland were the first and only force minded people before the Jedi .
I'm personally glad he didn't, actually. The Dawn of the Jedi storyline was a convoluted mess, in my opinion. It added needless aspects to the Jedi's history that somewhat contradicted other parts that came before it, all for the sake of adding credence to a misunderstanding of the nature and duality of the Force.
The Grey Jedi were not an organization unto themselves. The term "grey" was originally used to describe any member of the Jedi Order who were willing to disobey the High Council, or at least didn't conform to the typical Jedi standard. Members like Qui-Gon Jin, Plo Koon, and Quinlan Vos are notable examples of Grey Jedi, and it should be noted that Quinlan Vos is the only one of the three that I mentioned who actually dabbled in the dark side.
The light side and the dark side of the Force just don't mix, and any balance that is achieved, if it's even possible, would be temporary.
@@ishmeetsingh5672 Also, no. The Dawn of the Jedi storyline and the Je'daii Order are not a part of the canon continuity.
"Out of the dark came light". "In the beginning there was darkness" makes sense and could fit into the Jedi lore.
This is one aspect of Legends I hope they keep 100% the same...
Don't know why they wouldn't
@@damonmaddox3173 because they seem to have forgotten how the force and lightsabers work in TFA and TLJ
@@Greendyes_E I guess
@@damonmaddox3173 because it's Disney
EU Legends Forever over Cannon any day....
I convinced my wife to name our daughter Revyn before she knew where it was from.
They best make a Revan film and not ruin it.
wdh 3007 I already told my wife where it’s from, and we’re definitely going to tell our daughter 😄
I bet your wife was like, you made our child a nerd... lol
I once convinced my husband to paint our house Kansas City Royals blue color.
How did she react when she found out?
Bjornarmar Nice name.
Last time I was this early my allegiance was to the republic to DEMOCRACY......
Jamie allen Last time I was this late I declared if you are not with me, then you’re my enemy
@@blootube97 only the comment section deals in absolutes I will write what I must ;)
@@jamieallen3887 You will try...
I love democracy
Jamie allen
😅 I loved this!
I want a movie or trilogy on Darth Raven also known as Jedi Knight Raven
“YOUR New Empire...?!”
I would love to see more Jedi history! Their wisdom, inspiration, motivation, and connection to The Force is very needed for me in these crazy times....
It's so nice to see a video from what I consider to be the true Canon, the true lore of Star Wars...Legends.
ditto
Its not gonna happen if Disney continues to do what it does.
Excellent summary. I would love to see a streaming tv series on the very first Jedi and have them take their time presenting a detailed visual presentation that lasted for a possible seven to ten seasons on the new Disney streaming service. I have no doubt it would be very popular and could be done with visual effects equal to those of the films. Filming a ten episode season at a time it would be like binge watching a Star Wars trilogy each season .
I really hope Darth Revan or Darth Bane are in the movie in some shape or form!!
Fx Neutral darth bane is officially canon, Darth Revan...... sort of
J C I know it’s just that i would like to see either in them in an old republic movie
Noah Putz same
ya same, Revan BETTER be in the movie or im not going to the theatre, if Revan isn't the maincharacter, im just downloading this movie for free
If Revan (the Jedi version or the Sith/Darth version, I don't care; I'd really like to see both, like covering his transition from light to dark and back) isn't in the movie(s), then we riot! Lol.
"If you seek to aid everyone that suffers in the galaxy, you will only weaken yourself... and weaken them. It is the internal struggles, when fought and won on their own, that yield the strongest rewards."
whats this from?
@@shooterbass1047 Krea, Kotor 2
Night Light thx
The Je’dai practiced both light and dark sides of the force
That's what i thought too, but i can't remember where i got that info from. Dawn of the Jedi maybe? then eventually they split into two factions if my memory serves.
Yeah that’s what I remember
They believed in balance, and if you went to far to EITHER side you were sent to one of the moons to meditate and find their balance once more. it was not until much later (the first civil war) that they split and abandoned the dark
@@merrick1588 yeah! that was it.
I knew I wasn't crazy
Would love to see an "Old Republic" movie, or even a movie predating the Old republic, set to the tumultuous time before the Republic.
Last time I was this early Dooku still had hands and a head🔥🐉👊👍
I know that this is an old episode but, you helped to find the specific character concept i was looking for in my new DnD campaign. Thank you so much for All of your content> I hope your movie gets the attention deserved.
Finally a legends video. I cannot wait for more SWTOR videos, the fact you made a reference to Tython made me happy, as Tython is my favorite planet.
Jedi order: we have no attachments. We love all
Student: but don't we need to be attachments to life to love?
Jedi order: ...the dark side has corrupted you.
Thus began the jedi civil war
I hope are kidding!
Jedi forbid attachment to single individuals. You can't have a love and respect for all life if you hold a single being above all of them. When you think like that, you become very selfish and self serving. You would happily sacrifice other to see that one being safe.
Think of Jedi like medical doctors, They care about your well being, and will do everything they can to help you, but they don't love you passionately. They would not be able to do their job if they did.
That's an entirely plausible scenario too lol. Jedi family relationships must have been some seriously distant affairs, in more than one era too.
The Sith aren't fond of love either. Not for the selfishness but the fact it may lead to mercy, the worst thing a sith could do.
The gathering on Tythan actually happened before the defeat of the Infinite Empire, according to the Dawn of the Jedi comic series.
When you get carried away with lore, you start jumbling events and characters but God do I love it. Everything about Legends Lore is glorious. Disney sitting here take the lore and twisting it or incorporating it into Canon and passing it off as their own to the new generation. It spawns so much fury in my soul knowing that literally every generation after this one won't even really know what Legends Continuity was. I honestly feel their Canon is going to collapse and get so much hate that Jar Jar's hate was just a tease of true hate. And in the ashes of the Canon ashes will rise Legends 👀
It was the "Peace, freedom, justice and security for My new Emp..." For me🤣🤣🤣
Everyone knows the Jedi Order started in Tython. Achto is just Disney's fanfic name creatively inspired by Kathleen Kennedy's massive sneezing
I absolutely love in-depth lore on the origins of the Jedi, so this is quite appealing.
Great informative video as always the Je'daii believed in the balance of the force. Teaching it's inhabitants how to use the force in a balanced state for order not destruction. Those born with force sensitivity stayed on Tython and allowed to be trained as Je'daii
A film about the old republic would be great
I would love to see them go back to when force sensitives were using metal blades and then leading up to the first light saber. They could do a great homage to the early Shaolin Monks way of life doing this I think.
One of the most enthralling aspects of the GoT series was the connection with the children of the forest, the night king and those ancient origin stories. I think it would be great if Star Wars included this type of plot in the next saga by talking about how the light brought about the dark, and vice versa
I love that music in the background
Tell me why I’m vibing with this background music rn tho
"We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers."
At 2:36 😳 a Flying Rancor... I want no parts of that...
I know you produce so much great content already, but I would LOVE to see you do a play through of the old KOTOR games. Cheers.
I completely agree with that
Patrick yes
I'd like to see one covering all the known force abilities, dark, light and in-between. Was there ever a force user that could fly, teleport, stop time, walk on water or through walls, etc.?
i too would know this
Would i like to see a movie set in the Old Republic...?
Yes
Would i like Keanu Reeves to play Revan...?
Hell Yes
Am i afraid Disney wild fuck it up...?
Yes
keanu as Revan..YES and then Vin Diesel as Malek
They did good with The shows so they might do good
@@gamingwithryan2.071 So true... So here's hoping 😄
Will Filoni and Favreau be involved?
Just no tom cruise or willow.
Wookipedia contains a slightly different and a way more detailed story of the Jedi. It says that the Bogan followers didn't just rebel, but were sent to the Unknown regions as a punishment to later return as Sith. It's a VERY huge article there, took a whole day to read.
4:33 funniest part 🤣🤣
Good job on this my dude. Your narrating and choice of words was absolutley perfect. Well done & thanks so much for the time you put into this.
Hopefully Disney brings back the ancient Jed'aii and their philosophy of achieving BALANCE between the Ashla and Bogan facets of the Force.
Really hard to find good fans and people who provide good stry telling, canon and lore from star wars keep up what you are doing
Yesss cover the mandalorian Wars!
First Jedi: we better not be destroyed by a couple of bad guys
Palpatine: haha that’s funny
It may mean nothing to you, but thank you for changing how you end videos. I really enjoy your videos and the knowledge you share in them, but the old ending drove me up the wall. I can now enjoy the entire video rather than waiting for me to skip to something else.
A long, long, long, long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away
Or, 'A longer time ago, in a galaxy farther away...'
A shorter explanation than I could have managed. I'd have gone off on tangents, or flourished it out with important details(this one in particular).
My wish for an Old Republic movie series is the Mandalorian Wars, and Revan
I would pay to see that in theaters, in a heart beat. Outside of references and flashbacks, I don't think that story has been told in detail
Don't say sorry when you get a little carried away ^^ your passion for the franchise really shines through when you do
Good morning all the way from Mexico may the force be with you always my Lord
Excellent video, with very good information about the Jedis. And also a very clear pronunciation which I Appreciate, specially because english is not my first language, and could understand quite well all that was said on this video. May the Force be with you!
Great video I've been craving old republic and fun legends stories
Our civilization is a “technologically advanced dark side civilization”
Just waiting on that "plague".
Annnny time now.
Yes. It's dark side manifestation is it's 'legal' murder of unborn children.
@@MajinBuuButtercup COVID-19?
@@catremihut Yep. I wasn't joking.
@@MajinBuuButtercup Also it seems our world’s Valorum was just removed from office after some baseless accusations of corruption.
We’re close to facing a Clone Wars of our own.
I'm a simple man, I see SWT I click!
You mention the first hyperspace explorers... a video on them would be interesting. In the original film, Han explains that a hyperspace jump requires very careful calculations so that you don't emerge into the middle of a star or something. But how could you make such calculations if you don't have a map of the galaxy? Did the first being to jump to lightspeed slam into their planet's moon?
More old lore videos? Yes please! :) Anything pre-Disney works for me! :-)
Thanks for the message. May the force be with you.😌😁
The early force books were interesting, though they leave a great deal of history out. There isn't a good deal of written about what brought those first force users to that sector other than the space craft that somewhat abducted force sensitives from all over the galaxy to take them there.
Tython was settled before the fall if the Infinite Empire and actually fought successfully against it. It's when they first used force sabers. Nor did they limit themselves to the light side, they strove to maintain a balance. Even Sith (the species) were present. Tython was dangerous because those not attuned to the force were in mortal danger from the incredibly strong force nexus combined with the force storms set up by the Kwa to hide their infinity gate.
this is really interesting. i'd like to see more of the old republic from your perspective Star Wars Theory.
if Disney want to make more star wars movie, at least centre them during the days of the old republic and not after the events of rise of skywalker and pray that they stay true and respectful to George Lucas's original source material unlike what they did with the last jedi... Rian Johnson and kathleen kenedy...
Unfortunately other than a few books in legends that's really all there is
those 3 star wars disney made was an absolute nightmare. cringe the whole 3 films. such a shame.
I'd like to see it when the lightsabers had to be plugged into a power source, then show the Jedi discover the usefulness of the crystals and create a wireless lightsaber?
4:34 security for my new empire lol
MORE 👏🏼 OLD REPUBLIC 👏🏽VIDEOS 👏🏾
Very interesting. Btw i love the background music
Jonnic you know the name of music?
The Je'Daii, who blanced Ashla ( named after the white moon of Tython) and Bogan ( Named after the dark red moon of Tython ), Light and dark, existed before contact with the Rakatan Infinitte empire. Reakatan "Force Hounds" found the Je'Daii on Tython and that was the first contact between the 2 groups. The Je'daii weathered all encounters with the infinite empire until it collapsed.
Then came the great Schism, in which factions began fighting over philosophy and the 2 factions began to favor one aspect of the force over the other. One side favored the Darkness of Bogan, the others the light of Ashla. This was when light an dark fought and light won out. the practitioners of Bogan, the dark side that survived, where exiled, while the Je'daii focused soley on Ashla, and became the Jedi.
Those exiled would discover the world of Korriban, and then come to rule over its force sensitive natives. The Sith.
SWTOR is a great game and Disney could learn a lot from the cinematics and storytelling...............
Andrew Reeve KOTOR and KOTOR 2*
The way I heard is that Peter Parker first discovered the tingles, or 'Force' as they later called it.
I hope we see Revan again similarly to how we see him in Legends, however, I think Disney could take the opportunity to make his character more linear. I think his character was for the most part perfect, but when he split into two beings, I think this caused problems.
i want an old republic movie to go back just before yoda was born and maybe explaining more about his species
It would be cool to see a prequel to the prequel that showed how the sith went into hiding and the old republic was formed
After they were tricked into destroying themselves in a effort to destroy the republic and the Jedi through an ancient ritual presented by Darth Bane...He was the sole survivor and he initiated the rule of two
I think this was after he found Revan's holocron
Excellent, I really enjoyed your summing up of the progression on the Jedi.
I’d really like to know more about Darth Revan and Revan after the end of KOTOR I.
It was a great game that I played many times, & was really disappointed when KTOR II only mentioned Revan & Bastila in passing... it to was a fantastic game in its day.
I’m a simple man, I see SWT video I watch, them it’s about the OR I like. Wish you would’ve talked about Tython planet but maybe in the next Video? 🙃
CMDR Respawn you mean tython?
Suyash Gaming I don't know what you're talking about.... :3
CMDR Respawn you mean The force nexus Right?
I love these videos very informative and discuss the universe of Star Wars with those who respect the lore of old with that of the new you inspire me with your videos because I'm Autisitic and this is my obsession and you help it remain strong my own spark!
I really would like a darth malgus movie tbh
hell yea...
I seriously am so excited for the Old republic movies, no matter what i’ll be just happy to see this universe being expanded
They are heading towards the Mandalorian wars, this is what everyone wants to see.
Playing Knights Of The Old Republic, it shows that the first Jedi weapons were viroblades, which was steel swords enhanced with a force field, which then later, the Jedi learned about harnessing energy through curtain crystals, which led to the creation of the lightsaber. When I saw both the 'Darksaber' and the blades used in the Han Solo movie, my immediate reaction was "those are viroblades".
Would love to see a series of the Sith's origin.
Have you looked at the Journal of Gnost Dural? There's a video version on youtube and it's a lot of fun to watch. Covers this very topic and more leading up to the Great Galactic War, just before SWTOR
Star wars just keep giving us something new to theorise with
Ah it's so refreshing to see legends content can you do more legends vids please?
Also the Actress that voices Hera Syndulla also does the voice of the Jedi Master Kiwiiks in Old Republic game
WTF look at 0:08 I thought I saw R2D2's great grandfather.
This is T7-O1, look it up on Wookieepedia.
@@ddashung R2"s cousins from the hood
A Darth Reven movie could be just as long as the current SW saga by itself
You left out that the first je-daii would send those who strayed ,to one of two moons around tython , ashla or bogan.
Outstanding job... keep these coming... too bizy (NOT lazy) to stay on top of this.. THANKS!!!
SWTOR film.. and Star Wars Theory finally getting into the Old Republic era?! My lord.. is this legal?
Han?! You're Alive?..
Wait... that's illegal
Amazing that a movie about the first jedi has not been made.
Whats the background song?
That shit is so nice
great videos explaining star wars history an staff , u edit it great , background music great .. really takes me deep into it .. good job keep up i live it/love it
Don’t like the term “light side” as it was never referenced once in any of the movies made. It’s just the force.
Josef Lemos
Light Side and Dark Side are small spect of the entirety of the Force
Lucas himself uses the term
I really liked the video on how the Jedi came to be, I recommend reading the book Dawn of the Jedi which does take place 25,700+ years ago of course back then there weren’t lightsabers they had swords but could use the force. Idk if it’s considered canon but I thought it’s something really good to read and cover
Legends > Disney “canon”
I want to know how the Jedi's lived before joining the Republic. How they got their clothes, food, and other daily necessities to live. I know the republic offered a lot in return for their protection, but it was republics corruption that led it to becoming Palpatine Galactic Empire
Je’daii consisted of people wielding the light and dark side to create balance.
I would love old republic movies dating back hundreds or even thousands of years before episode 1 it would be an interesting movie topic