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Spray Chrome Clear Coat Tests, Finding the Perfect Clear Coat
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2019
- Every spray on chrome I have ever used has had issues when clear coated. Spray on silver has it's issues too. If you spray chrome paint on your lures, or anything else, you have probably seen your shiny finish go gray and dull. In this video I review tests I did on Spaz Stix and Looking Glass chrome sprays. Then I run a new set of tests to see what clear coat is best for two part spray on silver. www.amazon.com...
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Great stuff! Having worked with engineers my whole career I am very comfortable with the way you approach things. My focus on lure making is more casual/practical in that I am handcrafting wooden copies of commercial lures that have become ridiculously expensive at $15 to $25 each! Really appreciate you sharing your experience and the results of your tests. All the best and Merry Christmas!
Thank you....best wishes and happy holidays.
What an amazing video. I wished that you could sort the spoons one by one in front of each product. THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU
I've been looking for a way to rechrome plastic model parts so I can repair seam lines properly and this looks like it might be a viable solution. Thanks so much!
Glad I could help
Excellent videos with well thought out explanations. Enjoy watching many of your videos.
Thank you kindly!
I bet the haze you got from the UV was because it was cold. I use the same UV, and the first time I used it I got a very dull finish. I contacted Alumilite who recommended putting the bottle in a bowl of hot tap water for about 5 mins. Now I do it every time and I get crystal clear results every time. I say that because you started out by saying “it is cold”. Great video.
You'll see that in the video I had the clear coats all warming up in front of a heater...
The finish was glossy but it had a very slight affect on the silver..but, you're right it's worth experimenting a bit more with the UV.
Great video as always! I always learn something new. Thank you
Built a lot of props so here is a tip for this or that spray chrome can paint clear....
Modpodge the surface watered down multiple airbrush coats or wet sanding then spray or use self leveling 2 part epoxy or spray clear.
I’m confused about what you wrote. Are you saying you wet sand the midlpoge after you’ve top coated it onto the chrome?
Isn’t there a risk of burning through the modpoge layer and ruining the chrome layer?
When you have the spoons lined up after slivering them the 3rd from the right seems to be brighter and more shiney.
you're right that one is the one with the floor wax. using the floor wax was an afterthought , I knew it would be very good if not the best. But it's only a midcoat. It looks darker than the others because I messed up the silver plate on the first attempt and when I cleaned it off the painted part of the spoon stayed dark,
Hello Angler😊😊
Do you try it with water based clear paint🤔🤔?
Greets
Yes
Thank you for the nice demonstration, and it mean that a 2k automotive clear coat will suit the best right.
If you are not using floor wax as a mid coat then yes. two part automotive clear works very well.
Well that’s spaztastic ! accidentally chipped up my chrome finish’s on my Indian Scout exhaust pipe 😳I’m looking for a way to get it looking like almost new again. Thanks for sharing and your efforts in making this video!
I don't think this stuff will handle heat...good luck!
Engineered Angler haha thanks!
Engineered Angler I guess I should consider chrome powder coat and fire up the motor 😁that would probably be best.
I like that idea....
surprising results... also, I had thought you would need to buff the floor wax. interesting...
Thank you for your tests.
Curious, do you use floor wax on your lures and just re-coat form time to time, or is the wax pretty stable & permanent once it dries?
The floor wax is juzt a mid-coat. I apply a couple of coats of resin on top.
Have you seen or tried ALSA chrome paint? The stuff looks amazing and easy application might take a look they have a RUclips video.
Yup...I checked it out a while back, It;s ok stuff, the finish is more like a polished aluminum. Let me know if you get good results.
Found one from Adam savage, have you tried alclad ii lacquers gloss klear kote alc 310? It's supposedly made to go over top of sensative chrome paints and was designed for minis. It seems way more cost effective than other solutions. Maybe do an updated video or pin a comment when you get around to trying more chromes and more sealants?
I will look into it for sure...thanks.
@barbatosrex does a lot of reviews on chrome paints if your into model making or prop making. I highly recommend his channel too.
Could you please explain more exactly what chemicals are you using for silver plating? Thanks!
If you go to the supplier's web site you can find all the specs on the chemicals.
angelgilding.com/spray-chrome.html
Are there other less expensive floor care finishes that will work?
Maybe...you'll have to experiment.
Hello, I have bought chrome paint can to spray on a helmet and I don't know if regular clear can is going to work well or if it is going to react badly.
What do you recommend me?
It is very dependent on the product and I don't know what kind of paint you have.
There’s a product out called hydrochrome in spray water bottle with the liquid silver dilute concept
Had not come across it. Have you tried it?
Hi, you didn’t say what you coated the Krylon looking glass with. It looks much better than Spazstix. I’ve had a rough time using Spazstix. It never looked chrome and I never found a clear coat that worked.
You should watch this video
ruclips.net/video/5-JfyKYWYGg/видео.html
Thank you for the very informative video sir! Just a question, suppose for small parts like action figure armor pieces where I would only silver plate some parts, and I won't be able to dip the whole piece in floor polish, would it have the same results if I just drop or brush some floor polish on it? Thanks!
Yes, absolutely...you can brush it on with a very soft brush.
So what brand floor Polish did u use sir
not a metallurgical guy myself but would the results be skewed by different application methods? i.e. dipping cuts off all contact with air. where spraying may cover irregularly and have parts of the silver exposed to oxygen? would that cause corrosion under the clear? seemed like the better results were from dipping.... except the automotive which probably has more to do with the thinners used in the the product than the application method? great video. look forward to further nerd sessions!
I have been doing these kinds of experiments with this stuff for over 6 years. But you're right, often the method of application makes a difference. The thinner and the propellants in spray cans often are the problem, but unfortunately the results have often been inconsistent. The 2K automotive clear is the typical method that folks use. I don't like the complications involved in using it. Using a safe midcoat is the most reasonable way.
I still would like to see you try the Molotow liquid Chrome. It sprays and cleans great and is by far the best besides your plating silver.
Also Bob Smith 30 min Epoxy is most popular brush on clear and maybe you can add this.
KBS is most popular dipping clear and would be nice to see it included.
Most would still like to paint over the chrome. Black back, markings etc. and then add a final durable coat.
Thanks for your time and money spent on this testing.
I tried it a while back but never did a side by side comparison...I'll have to do it.
Are you using the pen or the spray?
@@EngineeredAngler Refill from Amazon. Sprayed through my Iwata
Darn what are these mid coats? How to bury silver & metal flake in clear coat on a budget!? Nice smooth finish, & don't want to hurt the quality of silver as i need to lay additional tinted paint on top.
I experimented for 2 years...more than a hundred lures, before I got it figured out.
@@EngineeredAngler i know a lot of coatings, but i guess silver is not as bad as working with a chrome, people seem to be getting by. The only mid coat or final coat i heard for chrome paint is maybe createx 4050 UVLS waterbase.
I do want a chrome base coat under my translucent copper though for a shiny mirror copper look!
@@EngineeredAngler So you can't tell what mid-coat we can use before clear? I use Dupli-color metallic chrome and it's nice but would like to protect it.
You mentioned about tinting the silver plating to gold, but I haven't seen a video on that yet...? Unless I missed something. Can you please show a video or direct me to the video you show that?
Sure...here you go, let me know how you like it.
ruclips.net/video/OUkWy2JmkWE/видео.html
@@EngineeredAngler Hey Thank You!!!
Interested to know what mm tip you had to spray the 2k clear and how much you thin it, I was having a convo with an auto body story and they weren’t sure if you could even spray 2k clear out of an airbrush.
I didn't thin it at all. ...I was using 0.5mm tip.
Engineered Angler
Thanks mate, learning everytime I tune in 🙂
I just chanced on your video trying to find a cheap solution to seal a chrom alloy bike. I took off the rust spots with water and aluminum foil it work awesome and gave it a lite oil. Any suggestions to seal chrome on the cheap?
No...sorry. I don't really have a good suggestion.
Have you tried the flame trick? Also don’t you need to add violet tint to get a true sliver with the 2k clear?
The violet tint is needed most of the time, you're right. You can see me use the flame trick on this video and I explain it on the video I did a few weeks ago...it works!
Engineered Angler yeah I use the angel gilding Products in my art and they gave my the flame tip.
I'm really confused so am going to the expert what would be the best clear coat to use over molotov or looking glass . Is floor wax the best way to go then put on rest of design then clear
That is what I would do...but don't expect perfection. They all dull a bit with clear coats.
Would you please consider chrome / silver plating the aluminum wire wheels from a Lincoln my grandma left me? I inherited the car several months ago and I have many fond memories of my grandparents. Thank you
I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your grandma. I'm sure the car gives you a bit of solace. The reality is that silver plating is really much to delicate for something like car wheels. I would look around for a custom car shop or restorer and they should be able to turn you on to a chrome plating operation that could handle the job. Best of luck and thank you for watching.
why not just use a white spoon to start with?
The clear resin is much shinier and the shinier the base the better the results. And that's how I finish my lures too.
What was the best clear coat for looking glass?
ruclips.net/video/5-JfyKYWYGg/видео.html
What about durability of the different coat as to protecting the bait as well as the color?
As long as the clear coat goes on right it will last about as well as any lure finish.
Floor shine will last as well as UV clear coat? That seems unlikely to me. Or should you put an additional clear coat over the floor shine?
what was the best finish.
Qué marca recomiendas.
thank you very much.
The best was the floor wax for a midcoat and for a clear the 2K automotive clear.
What's a mid coat?
A coat that seals the paint.
nice technique, a litle expensive i guess for me^^ I also make lure but with a 3d printer, and i've made a similar swimbait as your last one. Where can i show it to you ? I will make a video of it if i find the time ;)
Go to the engineered angler Facebook page post something there I'd love to see it
Which use base coat for best result i use 2k automotive but not good result
I use a 2 part epoxy resin and allow it to cure for at least 5 days. You should check out this video to see my method.
ruclips.net/video/W6bpeIyR9PA/видео.html
Hi, I am trying to chrome silver spray some parts of my classic car, they are metal parts not plastic.
My question is can I apply pledge after chrome spray? If so, how long the pledge will last! How long my parts will be protected? Does pledge acts like automotive clear coat that can really lasts for long time?
Thanks in advance
Pledge is only good for an intermediate coat. I will need to put a hard clearcoat over it to protect the finish.
@@EngineeredAngler can you please help me with this topic.
I am trying to restore some of my car parts (metal parts). I have already chromed some parts using chrome silver spray. My big issue is how to protect the chrome paint!! Your video and Alclad product all talks about caroming plastic not metal.
Is there a way or a clear coat from your experience that can protect chrome paint on metal without damaging the or changing chrome color.
I appreciate your help into this subject.
Kind Regards
Short answer is no...all the clears dull the chrome finish.
Would that automotive 2 part clear coat be the same as a 2K Clear Coat Spray Can from SprayMax ?
Yes it is...but it's much more expensive in the can
@@EngineeredAngler Oh, so spraying chrome with a 2K spray can would probably give the same results right?
Have u at all tried clearing the chrome with kbs diamond clear
Yes...same results.
How on earth did you get the 'Looking Glass' paint to have a reflective/mirror quality? Anyone that I've seen review it (including myself) it just looks like a flat silver spray paint (unless it is sprayed onto the back side of a clear plastic or glass, as that particular paint was intended). I see you sparayed it straight onto the front, so how did you get it to be reflective like that?
The key is a high gloss base and very light coats of the paint.
Here's an old video on how I do it:
ruclips.net/video/si4gGbuBkxs/видео.html
@@EngineeredAngler Thanks for the reply and the link; that's a trip! What is an epoxy resin? Is that a type of paint? I wonder if you could clear coat it with one of the other paints that do not dissrupt mirror finish paint effects? I've got a short list (3 actually) of clears that work. I will share them with you if you like. I'm willing to bet you already know of them though! Ha
@@EngineeredAngler Also, what brand of transparent yellow paint is that that you are spaying over it!?
Createx is the brand
@@EngineeredAngler Cool! Thanks
I'm trying to make a prop, it has to be colored chrome. Does the floor wax take being handled well? I mean, handled A LOT.
No not really...it's not a good protective coat. It is quite flexible though.
Where do you get the silver plating spray at?
There's a link in the description.
black primer
The primer has no affect on the clear coat finish.
How much do these silvering chemicals cost?
Check out the angle gilding Web site...they have different opinions.
Hello,what floor wax you apply on spazstix
Clear acrylic (Future Floor Wax). I have use others and they work well too. Just be sure they are not meant to be a cleaner and a wax combined.
Thank you very much and i like the way you explained and very detail,man keep it up and thanks again
7:44, 7:54 NOOOO!!! , Black glossy as a base is THE BEST for reflection and glossiness! 10:03, You've understand your fault, yeah? It's because you put white. BLACK GLOSS!!!!
Great work and I live the videos! Is there any way to send you private messages?
message me on the engineered angler facebook page...
Thank you!