just dealt with one of these a few weeks ago myself and threw me for a loop for a bit. was losing a gallon of coolant a week in secondary tank. pressurized it and wouldn't leak at all let it sit overnight never dropped. pulled cac tube checked cooler for moisture didn't see anything. Needed to pull truck into shop bay for the night and left the cac tube off and just coasted forward. got out and there was coolant everywhere pouring out of the cooler. I prefer OEM replacement however not a fan of the CAC tube itself have had many break and blow off at the plastic collar. Upgrade with S&B pipe. little note for those who like mishimoto, aside my issues with them and their junk products (especially 6.4 radiators i've had so many warrantied out from it cracking at the welds) anyways if you buy their cooler, it will NOT work with the factory CAC tube regardless what they say. It has a completely different neck for the CAC and its angled and a lot lower than the OEM cooler and will leave you with a 3in gap with nothing to connect to. You have to use mishimoto cooler and their CAC which they don't tell you. S&B, sinister etc all their CAC tubes will work with OEM cooler.
Just installed a Mishimoto intercooler in black fine crinkle powder coat on my 2011. Looks awesome and seems like I’m getting a little more pep out of things. I’ve already done the CP4 to DCR conversion, put on a Banks cold air intake with the oiled filter, and swapped out both the hot and cold intercooler pipes with S&B ones. I did the SPE recirculating CCV oil separator. Tomorrow my diesel shop is going to mount up the Banks 4” stainless after exhaust with the black tip. I did the Banks Derringer tuner with Super Gauge and the Pedal Monster. So what’s left? Well, getting rid of those ceramic ball bearings in my turbo of course! Aug 20th install scheduled with an ATS Aurora VNT drop in replacement. Running the Derringer in “stock” mode until I get the new turbo. RUclips tells me that a 137K mile OEM one with some added boost on it is likely a ticking time bomb. Love your channel!
Swapped my '17 intercooler for a No Limits when I did the upper and lower Intercooler tubes. I went with a "2016" intercooler as the 2016 has a 3 inch cold side air port, and a better design of secondary coolant flow. Attempted a search and contacted various Ford Engineers to find an answer as to why Ford reduced the Cold Side Air port diameter from 3 inch in 2016 to approximately 2 3/4 in 2017 .... never got an answer. Could be Velocity increase (smaller port diameter) verses Volume Flow (larger port), but I chose the the larger port 2016 No Limit cooler, and a 2016 cold side tube for my '17. 2016 intercoolers fit just fine in a 2017. From what I read on SPE's site for their new aftermarket intercooler, they have the 3 inch cold side port and indicate the larger 3 Inch Cold Side tube connection is needed. Also note where the coolant "in and out ports" are located on coolers. No Limits coolers have one "coolant" port at the bottom of the cooler, the other at the top of the cooler and provide the hoses necessary to integrate into the Secondary Ford Cooling System. With thermodynamics in mind, Hot turbo air is coming in at the top (heat rises), and the cooler air is coming out the bottom (cold side), yet Ford and some others bring in cooler "coolant" at the top, yet have the hot "exit" coolant port also at the top about 4 inches away, heating the "in" coolant port as it comes in to the intercooler. Heat transfers across the top of the intercooler from the Hot "exit" across the intercooler to the cold side coolant inlet port and the intercooler itself. Believe No Limits has a better more efficient design ... hence my choice.
Been there done that! Engine would derate, no DTC on display, on a hunch checked the secondary coolant and it was very low!! Put two and two together and called my trusted Ford mech and sure enough intercooler was sucking it dry...
I absolutely love this channel! I'm a chief engineer (lead engineer for defense contractor). You are absolutely amazing in that you definitively root cause diagnose failures!!! One does not need to do this every single time, but with every new style failure is a great part of a solution. Thank you once again for sharing!
The orange coolant strikes again…. Sarcasm aside, I’ve seen this happen more than enough times with plate coolers. The OEM coolers are actually really efficient even at elevated boost levels. I would use another OE unit.
I literally just put a new one in a few weeks ago. Kept losing coolant but had no puddles or anything. Kept getting high temps on the trans. Went with a mishimoto. I needed a coolant flush anyways. Killed two birds with one stone 🤘
First I want to say I love all videos you made, and keep up good work. Question I have a 2019 F250 upper oil pan silicone is leaking. I want to put the gasket type oil pan instead silicone. Do you know oem part # or what year? I believe 2011. Will gasket upper oil pan will work 2019 F250
If the intercooler fails, could it push coolant out of the overflow hose on the secondary bottle I just got done towing 14,000 pounds on a 1200 mile trip and when I got home, I noticed there is no more coolant in the secondary coolant reservoir. There’s witness of coolant marks on the air intake, and the hose on the overflow of the secondary coolant reservoir had popped off and I have witness coolant dripping off the bottom radiator hose. I had to put about a half a gallon of coolant in the secondary reservoir to fill it back up.
Your thoughts. Have a 17 Platinum with the LED head and tail lights. I notice the rear pass-side driving or marker light the one that outlines the light isn`t working. All the other lights in the light work just the driving light is out. Wondering if the driving light is on a fuse I don`t think so but seeing the light only has one plug for the rear light. Any thoughts as to why it stopped working?
The color wasnt from collant its from the carbon and oil that coats the inside of the intercooler... I have seen them leak.. usually from aftermarket tunes with boost turned up.
I know this isn't about this problem but I have some kind of fluid (oily like) coming from under the dash on driver side I'm pretty sure you had a video on this but can't find it could you please help
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod okay. Took a turn and hammered it. Heard a noise like turbo spooling down real fast and started pouring white smoke out. My secondary reservoir looks empty so think intercooler or turbo went.
I replaced mine with a Pro Power CAC. I think Pro Power, SAWG and No Limits look identical. The claim: Our intercooler provides more than 50% increase in core size leading to over 30% more airflow. Drops EGTs by up to 100 degrees, decreases pressure loss. I like the way the truck feels with the new CAC. It looks good in your engine bay too.I did iy because I wanted to, not because I needed to.
@@louie3552 I did their full piping kit too. Nice power from the CAC and full piping kit. If you get the CAC from Pro Power the Cold Side Air port diameter is 3 inches, like the 11-16s. On the 2017 and newer the Cold side is 2-1/2 inches. I bought a 3" Silicon elbow to fit the Cold Side Piping Kit from Pro Power.
I am having an issue with my Primary coolant system. I have to add coolant quite often, I have changed my radiator, egr cooler, egr valve, all hoses, checked my my oil and conducted a carbon test for head gasket.. so far no luck any ideas?? Thank you
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I wish I was closer, I live in Northern Nevada near Lake Tahoe!! Hopefully I can find someone of your caliber to troubleshoot my issue! Thank you
Hey brother I just changed my intercooler and when I pulled the old one I had some oil, is that normal it was in both hot and cold charge pipes as well, not much but some.
I have a 21 350 issues I'm having code 24fe comes up def light and engine light come on and say 50 miles until it derates to 50 mph clear code 10 minutes back on had a recall for the exhaust some update so took to dealer out of town did update cleared codes drove 20 miles back on I cleared code hooked to my 17,000lbs 5th wheel went down I 81 70 mph no lights or codes unhook drive lights and codes back on funny part is just before this started exhaust filter gauge has not moved off 0% in more than 1,000 miles anyway took truck to home town dealer did diagnostic changed nitrogen sensor and def injector left dealer ship 20 miles later hello codes there back still 0 on exhaust filter my ford pass keeps saying contaminated def what could this be
Rod, the first thing you need to do with that intercooler is put it in the rubbish bin.. Then go to your computer, log onto the SPE web page and get a proper one. Then all your leaks will never ever happen again.
Do FRET, just let me do it! ruclips.net/video/NCLUDVPzSaY/видео.html
just dealt with one of these a few weeks ago myself and threw me for a loop for a bit. was losing a gallon of coolant a week in secondary tank. pressurized it and wouldn't leak at all let it sit overnight never dropped. pulled cac tube checked cooler for moisture didn't see anything. Needed to pull truck into shop bay for the night and left the cac tube off and just coasted forward. got out and there was coolant everywhere pouring out of the cooler. I prefer OEM replacement however not a fan of the CAC tube itself have had many break and blow off at the plastic collar. Upgrade with S&B pipe. little note for those who like mishimoto, aside my issues with them and their junk products (especially 6.4 radiators i've had so many warrantied out from it cracking at the welds) anyways if you buy their cooler, it will NOT work with the factory CAC tube regardless what they say. It has a completely different neck for the CAC and its angled and a lot lower than the OEM cooler and will leave you with a 3in gap with nothing to connect to. You have to use mishimoto cooler and their CAC which they don't tell you. S&B, sinister etc all their CAC tubes will work with OEM cooler.
Look at that new kick ass sign! 1st time I've seen it anyway. Nice..
When you were applying air, I was stepping back waiting for the blow out….😁👊🏻🇺🇸 Mines OE!
As always, thank you brother for sharing your wealth of knowledge and expertise.
Just installed a Mishimoto intercooler in black fine crinkle powder coat on my 2011. Looks awesome and seems like I’m getting a little more pep out of things. I’ve already done the CP4 to DCR conversion, put on a Banks cold air intake with the oiled filter, and swapped out both the hot and cold intercooler pipes with S&B ones. I did the SPE recirculating CCV oil separator. Tomorrow my diesel shop is going to mount up the Banks 4” stainless after exhaust with the black tip. I did the Banks Derringer tuner with Super Gauge and the Pedal Monster. So what’s left? Well, getting rid of those ceramic ball bearings in my turbo of course! Aug 20th install scheduled with an ATS Aurora VNT drop in replacement. Running the Derringer in “stock” mode until I get the new turbo. RUclips tells me that a 137K mile OEM one with some added boost on it is likely a ticking time bomb. Love your channel!
Swapped my '17 intercooler for a No Limits when I did the upper and lower Intercooler tubes. I went with a "2016" intercooler as the 2016 has a 3 inch cold side air port, and a better design of secondary coolant flow. Attempted a search and contacted various Ford Engineers to find an answer as to why Ford reduced the Cold Side Air port diameter from 3 inch in 2016 to approximately 2 3/4 in 2017 .... never got an answer. Could be Velocity increase (smaller port diameter) verses Volume Flow (larger port), but I chose the the larger port 2016 No Limit cooler, and a 2016 cold side tube for my '17. 2016 intercoolers fit just fine in a 2017. From what I read on SPE's site for their new aftermarket intercooler, they have the 3 inch cold side port and indicate the larger 3 Inch Cold Side tube connection is needed. Also note where the coolant "in and out ports" are located on coolers. No Limits coolers have one "coolant" port at the bottom of the cooler, the other at the top of the cooler and provide the hoses necessary to integrate into the Secondary Ford Cooling System. With thermodynamics in mind, Hot turbo air is coming in at the top (heat rises), and the cooler air is coming out the bottom (cold side), yet Ford and some others bring in cooler "coolant" at the top, yet have the hot "exit" coolant port also at the top about 4 inches away, heating the "in" coolant port as it comes in to the intercooler. Heat transfers across the top of the intercooler from the Hot "exit" across the intercooler to the cold side coolant inlet port and the intercooler itself. Believe No Limits has a better more efficient design ... hence my choice.
Good to know ARod, thanks for sharing
Been there done that! Engine would derate, no DTC on display, on a hunch checked the secondary coolant and it was very low!! Put two and two together and called my trusted Ford mech and sure enough intercooler was sucking it dry...
Great test!! Loveeeeee that 3 gang box!!!
Aye bubbbby
No Limit heat exchanger in my 2017 Plati Whisking I waited for the freshly released SPE!! But boy is it pricey!! 💵
I absolutely love this channel! I'm a chief engineer (lead engineer for defense contractor). You are absolutely amazing in that you definitively root cause diagnose failures!!! One does not need to do this every single time, but with every new style failure is a great part of a solution. Thank you once again for sharing!
Thank you brother 🙏 💙
The orange coolant strikes again…. Sarcasm aside, I’ve seen this happen more than enough times with plate coolers. The OEM coolers are actually really efficient even at elevated boost levels. I would use another OE unit.
We always dunked them in a 5 gallon bucket and aired up the charge side of the cooler.
Good idea
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod you can heat the water if you like too. Usually if it was going to leak, you’d see it.
Running stock. And I pull the pipe and so far looks good.
I literally just put a new one in a few weeks ago. Kept losing coolant but had no puddles or anything. Kept getting high temps on the trans. Went with a mishimoto. I needed a coolant flush anyways. Killed two birds with one stone 🤘
I am having this problem, actually cost me a transmission last year. Did this solve the issue? And what temp does it run now ?
@@hunterslifestyle625 yes it did. Unloaded I’m running around 189-192
Loaded around 195-203
Never seen above that anymore
@@onecleanplatinum8434 thanks
My son and I were just talking about this. His 2013 is using coolant in the secondary system.
Interesting, my 2012 was loosing small amounts of coolant never did find the problem I bet this was it!
First I want to say I love all videos you made, and keep up good work. Question I have a 2019 F250 upper oil pan silicone is leaking. I want to put the gasket type oil pan instead silicone. Do you know oem part # or what year? I believe 2011. Will gasket upper oil pan will work 2019 F250
Mishimoto FTW. Bar and plate core that will never fail like these stacked plate units, cast end tanks, fit like OEM.
I like how I can replace my factory one with another factory one direct from Lakeland Ford for under $300.
If the intercooler fails, could it push coolant out of the overflow hose on the secondary bottle I just got done towing 14,000 pounds on a 1200 mile trip and when I got home, I noticed there is no more coolant in the secondary coolant reservoir. There’s witness of coolant marks on the air intake, and the hose on the overflow of the secondary coolant reservoir had popped off and I have witness coolant dripping off the bottom radiator hose. I had to put about a half a gallon of coolant in the secondary reservoir to fill it back up.
Time for an intercooler.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for the reply! Also thanks for the videos!
Your thoughts. Have a 17 Platinum with the LED head and tail lights. I notice the rear pass-side driving or marker light the one that outlines the light isn`t working. All the other lights in the light work just the driving light is out. Wondering if the driving light is on a fuse I don`t think so but seeing the light only has one plug for the rear light. Any thoughts as to why it stopped working?
The color wasnt from collant its from the carbon and oil that coats the inside of the intercooler... I have seen them leak.. usually from aftermarket tunes with boost turned up.
I replaced mine last year with the mishimoto products. Way better than the prone to leaking oem part.
😂😂 why tf would you pay that much lol. Mishimoto parts crazy expensive
I had that leaking bad on my old truck 2016 F350 at about 500k it was a major internal leak. Replaced with OE ford part fixed problem obviously
If the air cooler is black on top. Like a soot looking black film . Is it cracked on top? What happens if u never change
If it was cracked YOU'D know
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod even if it was on top?
Just changed mine out in my 2012, had the same leak
It's also NOT FULL of water. Plenty of room above the water for the air to escape without noticing. Fill it up
SPE makes one
Yeah, it’s $3000. Pass.
Fer real, its that much????
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yep. Fkn ridiculous. “Sold out” per their website. Lmao
Jesus
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I saw $700 arod I have no clue what is a good price buddy
I know this isn't about this problem but I have some kind of fluid (oily like) coming from under the dash on driver side I'm pretty sure you had a video on this but can't find it could you please help
Keep an eye on your brake fluid.
Master cylinder tyme or hydro boost leak
@@vais3 thanks I'll check it out
What year is that
Im interested in a 6.7 power-stroke standard
All 6.7l have the same intercooler. Year means nothing.
OEM for me.
If this fails while driving could it cause white smoke to pour out exhaust
Could
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod okay. Took a turn and hammered it. Heard a noise like turbo spooling down real fast and started pouring white smoke out. My secondary reservoir looks empty so think intercooler or turbo went.
Mine isn’t leaking coolant…yet. However; my 2023 Powerstroke is currently in the shop (2nd time) for a Power Steering Fluid Leak. 835 miles on it.
Cmonnnn
I have a 2023 F250 didn’t make it but 1000 miles the lower power steering hose fitting was leaking had to be replaced
I replaced mine with a Pro Power CAC. I think Pro Power, SAWG and No Limits look identical. The claim: Our intercooler provides more than 50% increase in core size leading to over 30% more airflow. Drops EGTs by up to 100 degrees, decreases pressure loss. I like the way the truck feels with the new CAC. It looks good in your engine bay too.I did iy because I wanted to, not because I needed to.
Pro Power does look identical to No Limits. BTW: Pro Power On Sale for $849. I know I paid over $1k for my No Limits.
@@louie3552 I did their full piping kit too. Nice power from the CAC and full piping kit. If you get the CAC from Pro Power the Cold Side Air port diameter is 3 inches, like the 11-16s. On the 2017 and newer the Cold side is 2-1/2 inches. I bought a 3" Silicon elbow to fit the Cold Side Piping Kit from Pro Power.
I have a 2018 f350 it passed engine oil to the antifreeze any help?
Yikes!
I am having an issue with my Primary coolant system. I have to add coolant quite often, I have changed my radiator, egr cooler, egr valve, all hoses, checked my my oil and conducted a carbon test for head gasket.. so far no luck any ideas?? Thank you
You can bring me the truck
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod where are you located
@garywhitney2529 Detroit & the Tampa area
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I wish I was closer, I live in Northern Nevada near Lake Tahoe!! Hopefully I can find someone of your caliber to troubleshoot my issue! Thank you
Is that sign new?
No
Thats what she said
ARod I keep getting a P026a code but have owned my 2019 for 3 years and have never had to add coolant to neither coolant system what am I missing
Get a scanner and stary looking at some data
Still running oem stock..
In the long term the deposits accrete and deviate from the acid and boom more intercooler ..experience 😂🤣
I got mines from Mishimoto
Hey brother I just changed my intercooler and when I pulled the old one I had some oil, is that normal it was in both hot and cold charge pipes as well, not much but some.
Normal, look at the CCV system
My Son Nicks, 2012 was leaking he put a stock one back on it!Fords are the best truck going. We want to keep it mostly stock!
Does the secondary coolant cool the oil cooler and trans cooler?
Just trans, fuel, cac & turbo/egr on some
Put one on my jeep cummins swapped j truck
Mishimoto
Always have a electric hot plate…
dry test! smoke machine
I have a 21 350 issues I'm having code 24fe comes up def light and engine light come on and say 50 miles until it derates to 50 mph clear code 10 minutes back on had a recall for the exhaust some update so took to dealer out of town did update cleared codes drove 20 miles back on I cleared code hooked to my 17,000lbs 5th wheel went down I 81 70 mph no lights or codes unhook drive lights and codes back on funny part is just before this started exhaust filter gauge has not moved off 0% in more than 1,000 miles anyway took truck to home town dealer did diagnostic changed nitrogen sensor and def injector left dealer ship 20 miles later hello codes there back still 0 on exhaust filter my ford pass keeps saying contaminated def what could this be
Obviously,this is the first time you have done this
No, 1st video
I can well that guaranteed it'll never leak
Hwhat?
Rod, the first thing you need to do with that intercooler is put it in the rubbish bin.. Then go to your computer, log onto the SPE web page and get a proper one. Then all your leaks will never ever happen again.
Id rather have the oem
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod take a look at the construction of the SPE one.. But I know you have to promote the oem stuff
Lolol i just choose to not use them
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARoddid you have a bad experience with them? Or a reason why we should not use their products.
Buddy..... i have no comment