The Ultimate $500 Rolex Day-Date Or DateJust Alternative: Ricoh 36mm Automatic Watch Made In Japan
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Today we return to bargain watch hunting with the discovery of a long lost gem completely made in Japan, for what might be the best Rolex Day-Date, Datejust, and Tudor Prince Date-Day alternative under $500. In this video I strike gold with an impressive automatic Japanese watch that not only presents good value on the vintage market, but boasts horological connections to Hamilton and Laco, and a seemingly forgotten story on an early innovator-and at one time, the second largest watchmaker after Seiko in the 1970s. Join me for an unboxing of a horological gem, with an up-close look at the origins of Ricoh and their Dynamic Wide 36mm Automatic aka the Japanese President watch.
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Wow, I had no idea Ricoh made watches. What an incredible discovery! I'm a huge fan of Ricoh's cameras having owned multiple Pentax models and now a Ricoh GR III. What an amazing company history.
Absolutely, I had no idea either! I love Pentax, they trained us with K1000 at art school, so the brand connection means a little more to me too.
Thank you Alex, excellent point.
Best regards,
TGV
they have some Nice Ana Digi watches too
Me too....
Have the Pentax ks2, may just have to match it with a new watch now
Ricoh have a substantial history of watch and watch movement manufacture after acquiring the business of "Takano" so I believe.
Despite my many long nights spent perusing eBay’s seemingly limitless stocks of obscure vintage watches, I’ve never come across a Day Date homage that looks this good for this price. Lovely little piece.
Thank you Toby, I hope this helps your future searches.
Happy hunting my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Reassuring to see I’m not the only one who does that
That’s a fantastic looking watch that looks like it should cost way more! Great to see Hugo again. Your intros are second to none! Thanks for another fantastic video.
I have owned vintage Ricoh watches in the past with but one in my possession at the time. They have all been well made, handsome watches that are reliable. Finding one in NOS condition is amazing! Great pickup TGV!
Great video as always TGV! I too love the look and elegance of a DateJust/Day-Date on a Jubilee/President bracelet. I bought a different affordable alternative, the Islander ISL-38, and I love it! It has many DateJust and SARB elements, but without being too close of a homage. Plus the quality/specs are great.
Congratulations for reaching 500k subscribers! I got into watches this year and you're one of the first youtubers who helped me whats the best watch to buy for the first time. I own a Casio a168 as my first watch and I fell in love with it! Now I got 4 watches, namely Casio, Seiko, Orient and a Citizen! Thanks and cheers!
Thank you so much, I am honored. That sounds like the ultimate Japanese line up, keep being some my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
When I first saw the thumbnail, I had two possibilities in my head, either TGV's reviewing an Orient or an old Ricoh. I was 90% sure the Orient was it. But man, I would have never expected to see a Ricoh on this channel, I knew Ricoh watches from when I was starting to hunt for vintage watches. I could find them every once in a while here in Indonesia. They're all solid pieces that look great, with hand-winding movements and glass crystals. I saw a day-date model with an ice blue dial not too long ago.
Anyway, thank you very much, TGV for sharing about this wonderful watch brand.
Cheers, onwards and upwards!
Always a great day to see Hugo and TGV. Congrats on hitting 500k! This will be a fantastic video as always
Your past couple of videos inspired me to take a look at Bulova. I bought the surfboard chronograph with the blue dial. I love it!
Yesssssss!!!! So glad to hear, that watch is so cool, enjoy and thank you so much for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
I am so happy to see RICOH getting some love. I have two beautiful classic RICOHs and they are absolutely splendid.
This may sound obvious now, but I never really knew _how many_ watch brands there actually were before I started seriously collecting. This is definitely a great find from an obscure brand!
The Master of class at it again. Quite a lovely watch! Wonderful video as always TGV, thank you for sharing.
TGV, excellent find!!! Very few talk about the vintage Ricoh, happy you found a very good example. Keep this type of videos coming, thanks.
Nice, great to see a coverage on a lesser known brand. I love the Orient President homages, especially the gen 1 models! Too bad those have gone up in price 😅
To be honest, Daydate is my most favourite styles of watches. I’ve recently bought a Cadisen Daydate 40 homage with green dial with Miyota 8285 movement. Costed me just over 100 dollars, has a sapphire crystal, hacking hand winding feature, runs pretty much 4-5 seconds slower. I’m okay with chinese manufactured watches. They are incredible value, extremely reliable and great for budget collectors
Thank you for sharing that, I am not familiar with that brand, I will check it out.
Enjoy our DD!
Best regards,
TGV
Fantastic video! I agree with your stance on homages, particularly for especially rare or no longer produced watches. I think the fact that you are open to owning a homage while also owning the original speaks to the fact that watch snobbery is only a secondary characteristic of highly insecure individuals. Great work as always, onwards and upwards!
Nice find TGV and as alway, a well produced, informative and balanced video.
I have a DD homage recommendation: Mido Commander from the 80s-90s. I have the reference 8299-1 (I believe), high beat ETA 2834-2 movement; hacking, hand-winding, quick-set on day/date. Screw down crown, monocoque case, dimensions: 36mm x 10mm x 41mm LTL, 20mm lugs. It’s a cracker of a watch!
A TGV video ALWAYS brightens up my day, keep up the amazing work boss!
I have my late grandfather's vintage seamaster and it is the only watch that I have seen with the same date change mechanism. Super cool homage watch, thanks TGV!
Another fantastic video; I had never given Ricoh a moment's thought. Definitely worth learning about! Keep up the good work.
Great to see Hugo again, he's entertaining in his own right.
Nice affordable alternative from a reputable company.
Great review on one of my favorite Japanese watch brands! Ricoh watches were well known in some south-east Asia countries and it used to cooperate with a Taiwanese watch company called Telux to make watches with all parts provided by Ricoh. I've never seen an old Ricoh in such mint condition, it's a gem!!
Now that's good timing, just recently found an old ricoh camera from my parents, That lens is the only one that we have, and i've been using it with my new camera, I'm dipping my toes by now in both worlds and what is my surprise to discover not only that Ricoh makes watches, but also this stunning and affordable watch. Definitely going to have one in my collection as soon as I can get my hands on it.
Thanks for this video, best regards from Spain.
Class act. Excellent production value as usual. Much appreciated
Hola: I have been collecting watches since the 50´s, I own a Ricoh with that Seiko inspired 18 000 usual movement and it is still working after all these years even suffering harsh shocks and -20 C in my engineering profession in the 60´s. I live in Argentina very near Chile and that model was pretty usual in Buenos Aires and Patagonia. Those Ricoh 18 000 movt were used well inside the 70´s. I collaborate with the oldest jewelers in Patagonia and they still have many NOS. From Ricohs to Omegas. Mille grazie!!!
This is too funny: I was just looking at this Ricoh yesterday wondering where it's been all my life! Thanks again for your hard work TGV!
Affordable alternatives. Your style ..never goes out of style.spot on.
Thanks for the video. I appreciate the depth you went into about the brand. Beautiful watch as well.
That’s a stunning watch. I hadn’t heard of this brand so thanks for the introduction 👍
Good video! It's always interesting to learn about companies that made watches that one wouldn't think made watches. This Ricoh watch is really cool. I too like homage watches. For those of us who cannot afford a Rolex President (even at MSRP), but would love to own one, finding an inexpensive facsimile is the only alternative. I always liked the Rolex President ever since I saw my uncle wearing when I was very young. He was head chef at a fancy restaurant and made good money. My dad liked it too, but totally couldn't afford one. My mom bought him a gold-plated Seiko quartz that he loved. Decades later, I managed to get my hands on a gold-plated Seiko automatic with fluted bezel and was lucky enough to find a president-style bracelet (also Seiko). It's the closest thing that I will ever get to a Roley. It's pretty awesome. I don't wear gold, but this Seiko so pimp-tastic.
TGV dropping another classic video 👏 thanks for letting us know about this watch brand 👍🏼
As usual, I love your acting with Hugo. I'm very happy about the come back to the roots of your channel Tristano ! Bravo from France !
Love your work, just saw the video and already liked
Just when I think that I am satisfied with the state of my collection TGV comes in and makes me want another watch.
The conversation with Hugo and the ringtone always makes me laugh 😂 thanks for the videos TGV
My Dad used to wear this Ricoh in gold all the time. Congratulations on reaching 500k, I’ve been watching for a while! 🎉
You are stealing my sleep 😅 but your content is always such a pleasure to watch ❤️🌟 thank you for your great work!
The Mido commander day date, I think, is the best way to go. Great quality. Also, the Rado purple house is a great date just alternative
I love midi and rado but I can't stand the new power matic 80 movements, they should give the customer a choice.
@@luked2767 I don't know too much about the powermatic 80 movements. People seem to love them, but that could be just for the power reserve. Would you rather have a stock 2824?
@@daneconnelly I would rather have the stock 2824 as its 28,800bph, the speed and beat error can be adjusted at home or by any local watchmaker, the microajustment screw for the speed is great.
With the powermatic 80 to adjust the speed you have 2 wheel weights and it becomes a watchmakers job, much more costly and hard to get just right, the beat error is welded or something in place at the factory so if you need that adjusted you need to get a whole new movement.
I like the idea of an upgraded 2824 with say a silicone or other better hairspring, better a balance made of better materials , more power reserve, a fix so when handwinding you don't get the rotor spin and such.
(ironicaly the Chinese clones don't seem to suffer from it as much)
But if I buy a modern Swiss auto I expect 28,800bph and the ability to get it regulated by a local watchmaker for cheap or a ajust it myself.
I can understand the allure of 80 hours but I'm sure they could have made it 60 to 80 while keeping it 28,800bph.
Many of the powermatic 80s don't even have a silicone hairspring so it's like buying a Japanese movement with more power reserve that you have to send to watch group to get adjusted and would probably cost a fortune.
The 2824-2 and clones are one of the most popular movements that most watchmakers can rectify a problem with.
Powermatic 80 not so much.
If people want the 80 let them but I would take the standard 28,800boh 2824 any day over the 80 and the customer should be given the option.
I also dislike powermatic 80 on the Dial as the Swiss matic was awful.
It has now raised the price bar on the highstreet for people who want to buy a Swiss brand that has a 28,800bp movement.
Nothing is wrong with the 21600boh beat rate its a good middle ground but not commonly used on Swiss watches its more of a Japanese speed.
But they should at least give us the option.
Some of the more popular swatch group watches that used the 2824 and are now powermatic 80 fetch a premium.
The state of the market is so overpriced right now that I think the best Japanese brand for the money is Orient and I do prefer their movements over the entry seiko movements.
Also Glycine aslo has some great sales and you could get a nice combat sub or airman with a stellita GMT movement.
I've recently been finding myself buying more Chinese made watches with Japanese or Swiss movements, microbrsnds and vintage watches over most of the big name brands apart from orient as they are so overpriced.
I just nodded a Steel dive Sd1970 and replaced the dial with a Vietnam era seiko dial and for the 60 pounds I paid for the watch that has 200m, sapphire with AR, a ceramic bezel and NH35 and 5 pounds for a replacement dial, its one of the best value watches.
I bought enough vostok watches for under 25 pounds each to last a lifetime when the rouble sank to an all time low.
This hobby is becoming more and more expensive for big brand name watches as prices are rising so fast, seiko 5s are crazy money now.
Love the piece, TGV! Had never even heard of them making watches!! II only knew of them making electronics. I picked up a Long Island Watch ISL-39 as a Datejust/ Sarb type piece. With Marc's absolutely incredible quality and customer service, there was no question that I would be happy with it. It is absolutely lovely and I adore the quality Miyota movement. I have often tried to find a Day-Date, but other than Orients that aren't in production anymore it seems that no one makes such a piece Sad to see that Ricoh made such a cool piece and they can't be found easily today. This Ricoh looks exceptionally interesting though and a definite throw back! As it is new old stock, I wonder how hard it would be to find another one. What a remarkable find. Thanks for such a nice learning experience and a great video. Maybe you should do a pro-homage 5 reasons TO buy video and quiet all those anti-homage rumors. I would like to see a nice Japanese/swiss movement Panerai type piece. I think Marc has nailed the Datejust homage though. Regardless, fantastic job. Thank you again. Onward and upward, my friend.
Have always been a dan of the Ricoh brand...and had the pleasure of owning several in my collection....but like many people you have sellers remorse owe well but it makes the hunting even more enjoyable
Thanks for the superb content TGV. And the Hugo intros are the best! 😁
I didn't know Richo made watches. The case and dial looks quite nice. Always enjoy learning the history of watch manufacturers.
This content where you explore the rare and somewhat forgotten is where you provide a great service to history and horology.
Thank you Jay 🙌🙌🙌
So glad to hear that,
Best regards,
TGV
Good evening TGV! Wow, what a gem you dug up there! I have to say, even the Ricoh leans very close to the Rolex DayDate, that dial is just stunning! And from the video the Ricoh looks much more than $500. Have a great evening! Best regards!
It does indeed! Thank you Heiko, have a great evening too.
Best regards,
TGV
Yet another awesome video! Congratulations on the 500k subs, TGV, you deserve it!
Some suggestions for your next less-known / unusual brands and watches:
1. Spaceman Audacieuse
2. Rado Manhattan
3. Smiths De Luxe (ideally ref A404) - the actual watch that was on the wrist of Sir Edmund Hillary during the first Everest ascent, it wasn't a Rolex...
4. Sturmanskie Watch 1951, 15 jewels - the very first watch that went to space (on Yuri Gagarin's wrist during Vostok 1)
5. JW Benson - I think you do not have a video on this old, English watchmaker - it would be fantastic to hear you talk about it
That dial color and strap combo is fantastic!
Really interesting video TGV...had no idea Ricoh made watches. Would love to see a series on large-sized vintage watches. I have a very large (9-3/4") wrist and am always on the hunt for 44mm+ vintage examples, of which there are few.
When I was younger in the 70/80s I settled with a Minolta XM camera, but remember Richo 35mm cameras were around then and they were good cameras, I had no idea about the watches though. Incidentally GTV your intros are very enjoyable and extremely well put together, you need to be careful that people are not tuning in just for the intros, Lol.
Love this video. Think I've mentioned before I have a 1973 vintage automatic Ricoh, with black yellow dial. I love it and it's my dress watch of choice. Such a shame Ricoh's watch making is lost to history. But I guess it means we get lucky to find these gems. Enjoy it sir
Yessss, that was you!!! Such a classy and sadly lost era of great Japanese watchmaking.
Wear it with pride my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
I've had the luck of getting my Bulova Super Seville a few years ago and it is still one of my favorites to wear
Great video as always TGV! Congrats on the 500k and stay classy
Always a instant like for a Urban Gentry video. 😎I am torn between the Rolex Submariner no date and Sea dweller both from the early 2000s.back when I would like to think Rolex was still kool
That color combination of the grey dial with the suede strap really is stunning.
Great find! Congrats!
Thank you so much, you are very kind for saying so, you obviously have great taste.
Best regards,
TGV
Once again, an interesting and informative presentation by TGV. Glad you are giving HUGO more airtime as I find him genuinely funny. Ciao old chap.
Hilarious Hugo... I have watched the intro, can't wait for the next installment. Unfortunately I have to go to work... will watch the watches later today...
these intros make me laugh every time, you are such an amazing guy TGV. you are certainly someone id love to know personally
That is a superb find! Well done 🎉
Bought a mint condition Bulova Super Seville DateJust a few weeks ago. £500 and it absolutely nails the lines and contours of the Rolex. Beautiful watch.
I've been looking at one too. I've got about 12 different day date options to consider
Thank U for the Inspiration, got twoo ricohs today .
Anyone know what TGV's ringtone is in the opening skit? It sounds so familiar.
8:25 I love the JWCII Passed sticker - reminds me of the JCII/JMDC Passed stickers on Japanese cameras and lenses from back in the day.
Just loved the 24 ringtone!! Great video as always
My Raketa has the same date change mechanism, also, as a vintage datejust fan, I couldn't be happier to see the alpha hands on this piece
the thing I love on this Ricoh daydate homage is the fluted bezel which is minutely so correctly angled as to give the real aura of the Rolex DD. Other Swiss (Bulova, Titoni etc) and Jap (Seiko, Citizen etc) homages fall short, even the top tier 4fig$ replicas! On them the bezel looks rough and garish bcos they didnt get the microscopic angles correct.
Stunning looking watch, well researched TGV. I love a grey sunburst dial
I Love the handset! It works perfectly with the dial and case.
Great video and watch!!! Truly enjoy your videos more than other watch geeks on you tube... you're not a watch snob which is great and your informative presentation helps your viewers understand the nuances of the industry. I have a couple burei datejust watches to fill the rolex fix...I do own one genuine 41 mm datejust blue dial the SS 126300 model but can't afford the tony soprano watch.
I have all gold burei 41mm on jubilee and the silver dial 41 mm on jubilee both have a NH35 and for $150 on amazon they are great quality... plus sapphire crystal to boot 👢 👌
Thank you and hugo for your entertaining videos
HAPPY YEAR 8 ON RUclips, TGV! Thank you for all the great videos and horolgical education. All the best as you head upwards and onwards. #pureclass
Thank you so much Kenneth, I deeply appreciate it, especially from such a loyal supporter and Gentry member. It speaks volumes about you. It is a gentleman like you that make this all worth it.
Here is to another 8 years, thank you also for remembering. My best to you and your family.
Best regards as always,
TGV
Congratulations on hitting half a million of subscribers, really an amazing achievement. Another alternative could be Orient president date or day/date, even they are pretty hard to get they are really nice and well made watches.
Absolutely fascinating, had no idea Ricoh made watches. It looks stunning, love to know how you get on with it.
I am a big fan of Ricoh photocopiers in my office. I can now wear this watch proudly when making copies.
Still the best intros in the entire RUclips. Hollywood needs your originality.
Good to know more about the brand as I have my dad's Ricoh quartz from the late 70s. Thanks TGV.
Congrats on the 500k subs!!
Congrats for the 500k subscribers you legend.
Still waiting for a IWC chronograph review.
Thank you so much Carlos, you are too kind!
Onwards and ever upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
That cool that you made a video on richo I made one myself knowing that the man himself got a really great watch and the history about it is spectacular
Super show T! Great info on a brand I didn’t know too much about! Juuuuuuust a little too much of a clomage for me but the way that date changes maybe worth getting it just for that!;) have a great weekend my friend
That’s a stunning looking watch! I’m tempted to get the bulova day date
My dad's Omega Constellation (ca 1970) also had "quick set" date like that. Takes some getting used to to set the date and time.
Love your videos on obscure brands!
I'm hoping you take a look at the Timex Q GMT, could be a great affordable way to scratch the GMT-Master itch.
The intro video could have been a collage of a hundred dream theater albums, great stuff!
What a great find! Awesome! I still have an old Gruen quartz two-tone day date I picked up at The Bon Marche back in the day (mid 1980s). Wore the crap out of it. Still works. But, not quite nice as that Ricoh... 🙃
I know this video is two years old, but I thought I'd revisit it as I just purchased (off the eBay) a Richo day date (37mm?) with a silver dial and leather strap for $162.00 AUD including postage; and I have to say I'm smitten 🥰
Thank you Mr TGV for getting inside my head..😆👍
Awesome video! Hope all is well. Cheers!
Ha ha the opening with Hugo was great, the person who said you don't like homage watches has been paying much attention to your videos. I love the dial on the Ricoh it really stands out great video as always.
So, Which DD Homage has the best Movement? Orient, Bulova or the Ricoh? Thanks
I love the kiwi lume pips. Blue suede and gray sunburst, excellent combo.
Please tell me what is the ricoh dial sixe
My favorite type of gentry subject.chuffed to bits
Almost paid the same amount for a 30!year old bulova super Seville not 24 hours ago. THANK YOU for finding this!
great video, I learned a lot and wow such a value and beautiful watch. As far as future video suggestions...what about talking about 'retirement' watches that have corporate logos or inscriptions?
Beautiful watch TGV great find.
Hi TGV, could you recommend an alternative to the Cartier de Santos? I'm trying to decide between the small, medium and large and would lke to find examples to see how they feel. Part of the problem is I don't live anywhere near a Cartier AD. Grazie mille!
Hi TGV , i would add to the options the citizen 7 eagle. The model with flute bazel and president bracelet in particular . I think it is an automatic beauty from the 80s and you can still find them at ridiculously low price. Take a look. Cheers
I saw one on eBay about 5 years ago, and I've been wanting to find another ever since.
👏🥳Congratulations on 500k!
Thank you my friend, always happy to hear from you. I hope you are well.
Best regards,
TGV
Thanks for the history lesson. Didn’t know RICOH used to make watches.
Production gets better and better
This is honestly quite a beautiful watch. If I didn't already have an islander of a similar style (minus the day complication) I'd probably look into this more.