Watch companies have been homaging each other for decades, I might add the Swiss haven't done anything new in years, the Japanese on the other hand have been busy ie solar etc etc
👏👏👏👏 So true, so damn true. Thank you Kealan. A big difference I might add, when the Swiss innovate, it's some crazy insane tourbillon inside a tourbillon, inside another tourbillion, or a super thin watch that only a few with duck tales money can afford. When the Japanese innovate, it's usually more realistically obtainable, like spring drive, electrostatic movements, a more powerful new complication in a G-shock, or a some crazy thin eco-drive etc... I don't think they are as obsessed with being "exclusive" and seen as ever more "haute horology" as the Swiss are. The Japanese brands seem to want more people to be able to have the super amazing tech, not less, and I respect that. Best regards, TGV
Correct Tristan, they've been resting on their old laurels for years, , thank you for your comment, enjoy your content,,,, you wouldn't be saying that the Swiss manufacturers would still be looking down their noses at the japanese?? Surely not 🤔🤔
is someone forgetting that the swiss' stroke of genius was to stick to mechanic watches which in itself is a conservative move? thanks for the millions, schmucks.
San Martin apply to accept the challenge of participation. In watches of the same price, we are very confident in our own quality. San Martin belongs to a micro brand. For "homage", we don't mean to copy a watch completely. Most watches will add our own ideas to make it a new homage. Especially for the quality of watches, our pursuit of quality is absolutely persistent. In many aspects, the finishing of case can even be compared with the mid-end watches of some luxury brands, which is our advantage. In China's watch factories, the case we use in this price range is definitely the top quality. We are also making more original watches and accepting customized dial services.We are constantly improving our quality and service. Of course, as a service industry, it is impossible to make every customer 100% satisfied, but we will try our best to help every customer solve the problem. We are making efforts to make San Maritn become an independent brand, making more people realize that China's watch manufacturing technology is developing rapidly, thus making more people recognize our Chinese watch brand.
With all due respect, saying that dealing with Ali express is not recommended, it not really true. I have had six transactions will Ali express, not all watches I might add, my experience has been very positive. You can communicate with sellers if you need and in most cases they reply very quickly. Perfect English too. As for quality, it’s not a case of you get what you pay for. You get far more than what you pay for. Pagani design is great for the low tier price they ask. Sure they are not perfect but they are not crap either. Dealing with the likes of San Martin really step it up a couple of notches. They cost a fair bit more than the run of mill Ali brands but you are getting watches of exceptional quality. Equal to or exceeding Steinhart at half the price. Try it yourself. Give it a go then report the experience. 😊👌
Homage watches are fun and people take things too seriously sometimes. There is a watch for everyone and we don’t have to pay $10K. It is a fun hobby, let’s enjoy it together.
I disagree with the blanket statement of avoiding all homage brands from AliExpress. In particular, ‘San Martin’ has excellent quality, reliability (mine uses NH35 movement) and customer service (responsive and provided unexpected extras with purchase). I have both their 39mm Explorer and 38mm Submariner. Both outstanding quality for the money. As the old saying goes, “Don't go shooting all the dogs down, just cause one's got fleas.”
Yeah I recently learned they have Seiko movements in some of their Rolex Homage watches which peaked my interest in them. Not like I can walk into a Rolex store and buy an Explorer for MSRP anyway.
San Martin is $375 while Pagani is $100. Is the watch ~4 times better? I don't think so. Is a Rolex better than a Pagani? Of course. Is it 200 times better? I don't think so
@@migooknamja san martin prices actually vary between 150 to 300 on the logical end. Paganis good but they are prone to more qc issues. New models may be better
Nothing wrong with homages, I think the meaning changed as people think homages have to be pure copies of original watches. It used to be "the Orient Kamasu is an homage to the Rolex Submariner." but it's clear they are totally different. People take offense to the silliest things.
You're right it comes down to what you can afford and what you like. Pagani has been upping their QC and the new Explorer Vintage Homage 36mm with the PT5000 is very nice for the money.
I'm afraid I've had bad experience with PD. Poorly aligned cyclops (I popped it off) and a Seiko movement whose rotor wouldn't spin. Batting .000 San Martin has been superb.
@@88laserbeam yeah, maybe the new that Explorer. Pagani takes criticism well too, maybe they'll fix their micro adjustment and put a version of the glide lock.
Can I say, and it's probably been said a million times, that this musical intro of yours is probably the best intro to any channel on RUclips. Hands down!
I have to say some of the better Ali express brands are quite amazing! Shout out to my boys at San Martin & Cronos. Some other paganis are really nicely done too
I have yet to try San Martin, not a fan of Pagani to be honest, the ones I have tried were disappointing. Never heard of Cronos, I will look into that one, thank you, Best regards, TGV
@@theurbangentry To be quite honest, Sugess is one of the few Ali brands I find compelling. Everything from st19s to 7750 clones to tourbillons in designs that range from probably the best Daytona homage I've ever seen to Zenith chronograph homages to Breguet inspired tourbillons. I havent had the opportunity to have hands on with one yet but it holds similar interest for me as WMT in that they are doing something different. Cheers.
San Martin are the high end of Ali Express, which isn’t exactly high end but they do make great watches for the money. Think they’ll end up breaking away from Ali Express anyway as they seem a solid company if their history and RUclips videos of their factory are anything to go by.
My favorite watch is my Steinhart (the exact watch you show in this vid) Vintage 39 GMT. ETA 2893-2, Sapphire sandwich, 300 M. I have never had nor do I ever anticipate having Rolex money. As usual, TGV is spot on. Many of my favorites in my collection come from this Brother’s shows. I recently bought my 1st Islander ISL 73 in 38 mm and adore it. Thanks Tristano!
I agree that I don't think there's anything wrong with homage watches, but, having bought a couple myself in the past, I now prefer spending the money on a microbrand which is trying to innovate. Some of those brands are makings some really good pieces which I think are going to be collectable.
That Dan Henry with the elements of different watches is what I'd like to call a Mashup watch or Remix watch and honestly, I think we need way more of those! They are different from homages and I would personally love to see more of them.
I have a 36mm 1980s Rolex datejust automatic Sea-gull watch on a oyster bracelet . It has a day date eta 2836 homage movement with no cyclops on the flat mineral chrystal. I bought it 4 years ago and it still runs accurately after all these years and suits my look. I have a Ricoh automatic day date watch and love that too. I am 77 now and love watches. I love your channel.
Paganni design milgaus is just superb. 100 quid. Feels and looks great. Nh35 movement, Saphire Crystal, 200meters of water resistance. Their V3 moonwatch is brlliant too.
I have 11 Pagani and are just great to wear. I have Hamilton, Glycine, Tag and I love to wear the PD’s to fool others thinking how the heck did he get one of those. Invicta pro diver 40mm I love, they just keep going. I completely agree with you on the PD’s.
I'll admit I have bought a couple of Pagani Design homages on AliExpress just to see what the fuss was about. I must say the quality and features for the price, like sapphire glass, ceramic bezel, Seiko movements, is incredible for the price! I'm glad you decided to cover a Rolex homage TGV. It feels like homages have been bashed a lot over the last couple of years. Maybe due to the insane hype that was generated in 2020?
They certainly have the right materials, if only they did more custom and fun dial work like WMT they would be on to a winner. Interesting point about 2020, I was not really aware of the increase in bashing homages, then again, I listen to music, or watch documentaries and movie analysis when it comes to YT, so I'm kinda far removed from watch content. Anyways, thank you as always Alex. Best regards, TGV
@@theurbangentry Then you might wanna take a look at San Martin, they usually have just a regular homages, but some have really cool quirks on them as well. Build quality seems a lot better than on WMT as well. But I agree, while Pagani is actually a really cool and affordable brand, they do tend to have a poor build quality. It took them 3 tries to get speedmaster homage just right and still some models have tachymeter bezel which is unaligned. Also for example, on of Pagani's limited watches had text "WATER RESISTNAT" instead of "WATER RESISTANT" on the dial.
I would like to see Pagani do something with the micro adjust on their clasp. If Benyar can copy the glide lock certainly Pagani is capable. What's crazy is a lot of the complaints people made about them, they actually took to heart and upped their quality.
@@theurbangentry You should check out the San Martin SN036-G, it's an original design by San Martin, and if you pay a bit more, you even get the new Miyota 8315 movement with a 60 hour power reserve which is kind of crazy! Just One More Watch introduced me to this watch and it's kind of awesome that they're doing original designs now.
Well done! I bought two Steinhart Ocean One Diver watches about 10 years ago. One for my son and one for me. They look and run great! The quality is second to none. No scratches on the crystal or ceramic bezel. You can hit the bracelet with Scotch-Brite every couple of years and it looks brand new. The weight of it makes it feel solid as well. Lots of compliments!
Couldn't agree more my friend. I also own a 2016 Steinhart Ocean One Driver and couldn't be more happy. Everyone thinks it's a Rolex Submariner. Just dang happy. What I am interested in is your comment on Scotch-Brite.....can you be more specific on which Scotchi-Brite you use? There are many as you know. Do you only apply to the bracelet? I am due for this and it would appear it works and I never would have thought. Thank you for your time, HB
@@amgolfer3591 Once you wear it and compare it to a Submariner, it is hard to justify the price of a Rolex in my mind. I had an older Rolex Datejust for many years that I traded a firearm and $450. for many years ago. Loved the watch and got the chance to sell it before it needed servicing which was overdue. I use the 'green" Scotch-Brite and not the blue. The green perfectly mimics the brush look on the band and watch. Go in the same direction around the band as the orginal. On the shiny part of my case I had some light and and one deeper scratch. I used Flitz Polish and a Dremel with a "felt" bit . I know some people leave the natural wear and tear on watches, but for me this works great! I was told not to do it and I could ruin my watch. My friend and house builder had a badly scratched two tone Rolex Yacht-Master that he wore while working. He agreed, not hold me responsible knowing that it could decrease the vaule. I used the Flitz on the gold. It cameout perfect. Some people will think it is crazy to do this to a Rolex. I can see their point as well. Good luck my friend!
Just IMHO, I would rather spend the 500 on a Seiko, Orient or something else than this though. Thanks for spending the dough as well as reviewing this for us TGV.
I bought a couple of Pagani Design homages ,and I was unhappy with the qc on both. Since then I have saved my money and managed to buy a nice new Glycine combat sub ,and a Tissot luxury powermatic 80 from E-bay at a very good price .They were twice as much as the Paganis ; but they are in a different world when it comes to quality, and I am much happier with these purchases than the " I just wasted my money feeling" the Paganis gave me.
To be honest you have to try San Martin, however always keep in mind the price you are paying for your expectations. But let's be honest, quality, specs and QC for the price is quite interesting. IronWatch who is using the same case also has some interesting products, a mix of a Tudor prince or an OP6282/6085 in clouds de Paris which is quite well done and at least it homages a watch that is not on actual catalogue, they also have an interesting version of the 14060.
I own 2 WMT Rolex Sub homages. One I love as its aged to perfection Submariner that would be out of my price range & very expensive to service/maintain. The second was a Bond Rolex movie watch homage that was supposedly limited to "150 pieces". Well, after the initial run sold out - 18 months later - WMT is listing the watch again stating its limited to... you guessed it 150 pieces. Not a knock - just a FYI/buyer beware.
The best Rolex Explorer 1016 homage is the Smiths PRS-25 Everest. Superb build quality, excellent movement, great bracelet. I also have an Alpha Explorer (an homage of the Rolex Explorer 14270) which has better build quality and QC than the WMT in your video.
While QC is not always the best with Ali Express watches, I have some beautiful watches from Pagani design, among others. Only a very close inspection would show a difference from the expensive watches they imitate, besides the names, of course. I can't afford to pay multi-thousands for an Omega, but having a Pagani gives me I think much of the enjoyment for far less. So far, after a few years of buying 10 of them, no problems except some stiff crowns and bezels.
You should really checkout San Martin...I think what they offer these days is so good, even though they are homages, they really are stepping into micro brand territory. That being said, my favorite homage/micro brand has got to be Lorier...
I bought WMT’s ‘Sawblade’ .. the James Bond - Live and let die watch .. it’s really good. The saw blade bezel and the trick Indecies that change colours makes it totally worth it. Very well made. Uses a Seiko NH35a movement .. which I much prefer over the awful Miyota 8215. Definitely recommend the ‘Sawblade’ if you’re interested in a Bond watch homage. Oh by the way .. Clint Eastwood also wore a Rolex Root Beer GMT in Firefox (1982) it can be seen on his wrist as he looks at the watch at one point (when he’s dressed as Leon Sprague). Same watch I guess?
It was - Clint wore it in Firefox, Tightrope, and In the Line of Fire. Bradley Cooper wore one briefly after working with him, and I have a suspicion it's the same watch - a gift from Clint.
I have 6 Steinharts, the quality is outstanding in every way, and it appears they are coming out with some original designs now as well. In my experience with this brand, it just doesnt get any better. You can buy them direct from germany, good customer service and fast fed ex shipping. Just a great quality brand. Appreciate your kind words about them.
I also have a few of them! And I was equally exited about this way steinhart was going! But it seems they have turned all the way around! The ocean 39 500 premium for exemple it’s been discontinued for a classics 1 to 1 Batman homage! I will probably never sell mine (ocean 500 premium)
I have the stein hart Pepsi, and it gets mistaken for a Rolex. And when I let them try it on. It seals the deal that it even feels like it because of the weight.
The Steinhart Ocean 39 Adventure is one of the best Rolex homages I have come across. I wanted a 39mm Rolex Explorer but will never hand over the cash required for one so picked up the Steinhart and I am very pleased.
I really like how opinions change in this cloudy hobby! I was a homage hater, but that was before I got my first Rolex! But we can’t denied there is a little guilt feeling before buying an homage
WMT has an interesting mix of offerings. IMO they are best for their "Aged Edition" homages. Like their 36mm Barracuda that homages a tropical dial 1016, which IRL is a $20k+ watch. In the case of the Barracuda, the double domed acrylic crystal and jangly bracelet are part of the esthetic. It comes with a very nice leather strap too.
I have a number of Pagani homages. The quality seems to be improving all the time. The V3 moonwatch is brilliant and looks great on a good quality rubber strap. San Martin also provide excellent value, QC is good as is the attention to detail.
How can a $75, Seiko mecha quartz movement, Rolex Daytona homage be "false economy"? The thing keeps time to within 2 or 3 seconds A MONTH without ever being serviced and will run for years.
There will also be value in a high quality homage. Because there is a market for it. Not all of us are watch snobs. We actually like a good quality timepiece at an affordable price point.
As the gray market / 2nd hand price of an Explorer creeps up over 10k, I can't help but consider alternatives, like a Smiths Everest. WMT make some interesting pieces, certainly compelling visually, though I think for the dough I'll seek out a Bulova Super Seville or Ricoh like yours (I'm after day dates, if not the Explorer : Everest avenue). Each offers a bit more proverbial bang for the buck, I think, though none of them make an Oman dial! Talk about niche!
I recently buy a vintage MORTIMA (french watch) "date just homage" from the 70' in 36mm for 10$... ...it's a incredible watch ! The Ricoh is desirable too !!!
I'm very pleased with my new Smith's Commando, an homage of a very obscure 1969/1972 Rolex. Such an odd and rare piece which would be a fascinating topic for one of your historical deep dives.
I have a Dan Henry 1970 (compressor style) and a San Martin (CPT Willard) which I got before Seiko decided to start reissuing their dive watch back catalogue. Both are excellent, with San Martin (Ali Express) being slightly better finish and quality (marginal). Anyway, a good homage is great especially if it brings watches into the range of mere mortals! Onwards and upwards TGV.
My current collection is practical. I have a bracelet Bulova chrono in a navy dial, a silver Bulova "tank" watch in white dial with leather band, and finally, my wife's graduation gift to me, a brown leather Hamilton tank, silver with white dial. Your comments on Steinhart compelled me to glance at their webpage. Steinharts look NICE. I'm new to your channel, and I've been watching a few videos, enough to notice that you're not a "tank" watch collector. Besides personal preference, is there anything I should know about my beloved tank watches?
Masterfully done, TGV! I am sure it is quite irritating that you must keep reiterating your stance on homage pieces, but I am glad to hear you again clarify not only your stance but the differentiation between levels of homage pieces. I was also equally happy to hear you again praise the Steinhart brand. So very very many watch snobs try to express disdain and derision for Steinhart pieces when they have NO idea what they are taking about! I have five Steinharts and they all are SUPREME pieces. I have put them through daily beatings, actually scuba dive with them, travel with the GMTs and wear them regularly. They keep excellent time and look remarkable. You WILL NOT find better bang for your buck ANYWHERE in the watch world…..period. ESPECIALLY if you are looking for a automatic Rolex homage. I have watches ranging from multiple thousand dollar pieces all the way down to $50 dollar Casios, and value for dollar Steinhart wins. Wins over Squale, Tudor, Orient and any other that I can think of. The only brand that comes close to value for money in my opinion is Certina due to their original designs and movements, but their finishing is probably not as high as Steinharts….think link screws vs pins. Anyway, highly highly highly recommend Steinhart. As for the WMT, I too have looked at them often, but I couldn’t pull the trigger on one because they cost nearly the same as a Steinhart but have a poor grade movement and I have never held one. They do look quite good though! They certainly have some different designs to chose from. When it came to me getting a DateJust homage , I went with, as you mentioned, @longislandwatch ISL39. It is exquisite. Miyota9015, movement and to date is one of the most comfortable watches I own. He doesn’t do gold tone I don’t think though. I went with Marc, because I have purchase from him before and I love what he is doing with his brand. Absolutely chuffed to bits with my Islander. TGV, so good to see you well and doing what you do best. Excellent points, and tip top production! I am happy to see that as well as a birth year and a passion for life we also share a joy in confounding and irritating watch snobs. Be well, my friend! Wear what you love! Onward and upward!
I have one of their watches which is a near 1-1 homage to the Milgauss 6541 (my favorite Rolex reference) which in reality would cost over a quarter of a million dollars and would be too fragile to wear. I absolutely love it, and wear it joyfully all the time. The quality is great for $500, and is much better than buying a fake which is the only way I would ever get this design on my wrist. I have no qualms about the WMT on the dial; on the contrary, what could be more of a representation of one’s true enthusiasm than wearing an homage to an obscure reference while refusing to defile their wrist with a fake?
Hi, You have my vote. I love 36mm watches and don’t understand why more watchmakers are not focusing on them. There is certainly a demand as noted by the frenzy, for example, when Timefactors release their Smiths watches on line and they sell out within minutes. I managed to acquire two after a number of unsuccessful attempts. Bye the way, great and informative videos, as usual. 👍
The more I delve deeper into watches the more I respect original design. A design that has taken inspiration of a watch or a brand and turned it into there own thing . Case in point a Khaki King we all know is a great alternative to an Explorer and it has brand history. Brands that profit and piggy back off the back of another brands success I’m not a fan of! This is coming from my songwriting background mainly! Beatles Yesterday will never be done better than original. However Hendrix’s All along the Watch Tower??? Inspiration from Dylan and turned it into a far better song!
I have to completely disagree, first off the Khaki King takes zero inspiration from the Explorer, the two may have similarities in some basic design aesthetics but are so vastly different. Hamilton is drawing from their long history of making field watches and are in no way trying to mimic Rolex. They are simply different watches that both fit the same function which is why they are so commonly compared. When it comes to music, I overall think it's a terrible analogy that ultimately isn't comparable to watches or any other luxury goods. You can personally enjoy any song in existence with a few clicks of a mouse, the same can not be said about physically enjoying a sought after watch. A $5k, $10k, or $20k+ watch is something many people can not even remotely consider outside of their wildest fantasies. Telling them they shouldn't enjoy a substitute that fits their lifestyle is silly gatekeeping.
I would definitely choose Long Island Watches (it's where I live, I HAVE to shop there first) and I would definitely use the modder that I believe Mark mentioned, LumeShot. Great video. More please.
homages is a topic, so good to hear from you. Thx for this informatic review about the WM watch - again (‼️) Watching your YT while drinking some wine. Interesting what you state acc Steinhart. Was a present (Ocean One Pepsi) to my son for his Master degree - get going 🚀
I have a Steinhart Ocean Vintage Red 39 that I got for 450cad (around 350 euro) and it's been the best looking diver and submariner homage that I own. Steinhart sure makes amazing quality watches.
The orient president is an homage that has interested me for several years - simply because we so rarely see such a blatant homage from a brand that is so established in its own right as orient. Unfortunately they have become hard to find, and typically sell for more than they are really worth.
Really enjoyed seeing the WMT. I’ve looked at them for awhile and recently pulled the trigger. Good watch but you are spot on. If you buy another one, I’d like to see another video. Nice job sir!
I would love to see you reviewing the Islander Brookville Hi-Beat. It is a combination of the Seiko SARB, Rolex OP and Rolex Datejust. Amazing piece, talk to Marc!
Gosh I've missed this channel! Subbed on my other account and completely forgot about resubbing on my new account. Like meeting up with an old friend. Glad to see more homage videos from you 👍
Very convincing reasons to get an homage, but I still personally can’t get around the idea that for the same money, you can get an original design from the likes of Tissot, Hamilton or Seiko.
OceanX seems to specialize in homaging the SeaDweller/DeepSea style watch in a variety of colors. They even have occasional special editions with swiss movements and Damascus cases. They don't have the depth rating of the Rolexes but they're beautiful.
I recently purchased a Tudor bb gmt, and I have worn it nonstop for the last month. I have considered selling some of my other watches, mostly homages, but I know I will keep a few , my question is this: Should I let them sit in a drawer or wear them periodically? I believe I heard your take on the winder, and it made sense, how often should I be dusting them off and wearing them ? nh35's mostly, a selita, a miyota or two make up the majority ..thank you for your hard work sir
Please do a review of the rootbeer gmt from Steinhart! It's a really unique homage in my opion and there is no review to be found yet. I think it captures the 80s Miami Vice feelings some of us desire! Thank you for the great video.
Regarding the point made about upkeep being a part of the overall cost of ownership, I recently had a 1960's Mido Multifort Powerwind serviced for $195. When I picked it up, a lady was there picking up a Rolex that I clearly overheard was a service (not a repair). The charge was $795. Never having owned a Rolex, that was an eye-opener for me.
After getting my rolex stolen i decided to get an invicta pro diver. Best decision ever. Gets more compliments than when i had the rolex, keeps time perfectly (quite surprised), got no scratches although i wear it for everything including snorkeling (also surprised), and if i get robbed i can just buy another one. Also fun story: i've had it for almost 2 years but it's my second invicta, as the first one i got mugged from it after only a couple weeks of getting it. Saved my life, i had some very old family jewelery on myself plus wallet and everything and they were happy with the watch as they probably thought it was a Rolex. I let them take it with a smile also saved me from putting up a fight and risking my life as they were 3 vs 1 and probably had knives.
Great watches, I still have one somewhere that I purchased to review donkeys ago. Thank you sharing. Here's to many more adventures with your pro diver. Stay safe and well. Best regards, TGV
I really enjoyed your vid! I enjoy homages too. I chuckled at the bit you mentioned about watch snobs. I just did a plea on my own vid for all to NOT be watch snobs. 😂
I’m thinking of pulling the trigger on the 42mm gmt master II homage from steinhart. Really want a Pepsi bezel in my collection and they have a ceramic bezel model now. With a SW 330-1 movement, the 680 USD price isn’t bad. My only gripe is the date magnifier isn’t very good.
Another great video, TGV!! There is a watch with a unique complication that I would like you to review, The Fendi Crazy Carats. It is ridiculous, yet I can't help but find it interesting.
You can’t totally dismiss the Ali Express stuff until you’ve handled a San Martin, definitely a cut above. I bought the 1953 vintage sub homage on a whim and it’s a great watch with zero QC issues.
I bought the Steinhart Root Beer 39. I love it and the quality is great; the only thing I don't like about it is that they used blue anti reflective coating on the sapphire crystal and I think it feels too modern. I wish they'd used clear or even no AR. It's obvious enough that I've considered trying to replace the crystal!
I have a WMT with a that looks like a Big Crown Submariner with an explorer dial, and Red Triangle bezel with no pearl. I wish they made the Bezel Unidirectional, but honestly most of the big crowns are not unidirectional so I am not complaining. Looks great on a Drab Canvas Barton Strap. It is one of my go to weekend watches.
When I think about hommage watches as a possible starting point for the hobby I realize how much my taste has changed over the years since I started collecting. But it's hard to tell if you develop your taste and preferences more by experiencing genuine entry level pieces or by lusting after high end grails that you might want to pay tribute to with the choice of a cheaper watch.
Another great video thank you : My Rolex oyster perpetual with the explorer dial is an in company homage , same dial and movement. Now on the Tudor website they have posted that the black bay divers are designed after the Tudor Submariners of the 1950s and 60s .
Watch companies have been homaging each other for decades, I might add the Swiss haven't done anything new in years, the Japanese on the other hand have been busy ie solar etc etc
👏👏👏👏 So true, so damn true. Thank you Kealan. A big difference I might add, when the Swiss innovate, it's some crazy insane tourbillon inside a tourbillon, inside another tourbillion, or a super thin watch that only a few with duck tales money can afford. When the Japanese innovate, it's usually more realistically obtainable, like spring drive, electrostatic movements, a more powerful new complication in a G-shock, or a some crazy thin eco-drive etc...
I don't think they are as obsessed with being "exclusive" and seen as ever more "haute horology" as the Swiss are. The Japanese brands seem to want more people to be able to have the super amazing tech, not less, and I respect that.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry hey TGV
If you contact Oliver at San Martin, he will send you a watch to review.
I have had this confirmed by him.
Cheers
Mark
Correct Tristan, they've been resting on their old laurels for years, , thank you for your comment, enjoy your content,,,, you wouldn't be saying that the Swiss manufacturers would still be looking down their noses at the japanese?? Surely not 🤔🤔
Agreed. Swiss watch sales continue to grow so as big companies they are risk averse, and thus stagnant. Viva Japan and micro brands.
is someone forgetting that the swiss' stroke of genius was to stick to mechanic watches which in itself is a conservative move? thanks for the millions, schmucks.
San Martin apply to accept the challenge of participation. In watches of the same price, we are very confident in our own quality.
San Martin belongs to a micro brand. For "homage", we don't mean to copy a watch completely. Most watches will add our own ideas to make it a new homage. Especially for the quality of watches, our pursuit of quality is absolutely persistent. In many aspects, the finishing of case can even be compared with the mid-end watches of some luxury brands, which is our advantage. In China's watch factories, the case we use in this price range is definitely the top quality.
We are also making more original watches and accepting customized dial services.We are constantly improving our quality and service. Of course, as a service industry, it is impossible to make every customer 100% satisfied, but we will try our best to help every customer solve the problem.
We are making efforts to make San Maritn become an independent brand, making more people realize that China's watch manufacturing technology is developing rapidly, thus making more people recognize our Chinese watch brand.
With all due respect, saying that dealing with Ali express is not recommended, it not really true. I have had six transactions will Ali express, not all watches I might add, my experience has been very positive. You can communicate with sellers if you need and in most cases they reply very quickly. Perfect English too.
As for quality, it’s not a case of you get what you pay for. You get far more than what you pay for. Pagani design is great for the low tier price they ask. Sure they are not perfect but they are not crap either. Dealing with the likes of San Martin really step it up a couple of notches. They cost a fair bit more than the run of mill Ali brands but you are getting watches of exceptional quality.
Equal to or exceeding Steinhart at half the price.
Try it yourself. Give it a go then report the experience. 😊👌
Homage watches are fun and people take things too seriously sometimes. There is a watch for everyone and we don’t have to pay $10K. It is a fun hobby, let’s enjoy it together.
Best production quality of all youtube watch channels. Amazing intro. Great content. Thank you brah!
Thank you so much, you are so kind!
Onwards and upwards
Best regards,
TGV
I disagree with the blanket statement of avoiding all homage brands from AliExpress. In particular, ‘San Martin’ has excellent quality, reliability (mine uses NH35 movement) and customer service (responsive and provided unexpected extras with purchase). I have both their 39mm Explorer and 38mm Submariner. Both outstanding quality for the money. As the old saying goes, “Don't go shooting all the dogs down, just cause one's got fleas.”
Steinhart and Cronos are my favorite homage makers currently. Nice video, as always great job on production. Thank you.
Should have gone with a Pagani Design......their quality is improving .I own several PD’s and am happy with all of them.
Yeah I recently learned they have Seiko movements in some of their Rolex Homage watches which peaked my interest in them. Not like I can walk into a Rolex store and buy an Explorer for MSRP anyway.
Do they have better quality compared to Orient for the same sort of price?
I agree
Never give your money to the communists ....
The only aliexpress brands id recommend is escapement time and san martin, both are pretty solid
Cronos as well
San Martin is $375 while Pagani is $100. Is the watch ~4 times better? I don't think so. Is a Rolex better than a Pagani? Of course. Is it 200 times better? I don't think so
@@migooknamja san martin prices actually vary between 150 to 300 on the logical end. Paganis good but they are prone to more qc issues. New models may be better
@@jacobpartin4553 Alright, well I was giving the example of the SM GMT~$400 vs Pagani GMT ~$100. Best thing is, if I get robbed, the joke is on them.
@@migooknamja very true
Nothing wrong with homages, I think the meaning changed as people think homages have to be pure copies of original watches. It used to be "the Orient Kamasu is an homage to the Rolex Submariner." but it's clear they are totally different. People take offense to the silliest things.
I have a Captain Willard homage from Steeldive that I got for $120. The qc on it great. I work outdoors and it’s been an absolute tank.
Have that watch too, incredible value for money!
+1 on the Willard. It isn't trying to be a clone. Lume is amazing and the movement is tried and trued.
Hey me too , I put it through the ringer and it still looks great.
You're right it comes down to what you can afford and what you like. Pagani has been upping their QC and the new Explorer Vintage Homage 36mm with the PT5000 is very nice for the money.
I'm afraid I've had bad experience with PD. Poorly aligned cyclops (I popped it off) and a Seiko movement whose rotor wouldn't spin. Batting .000 San Martin has been superb.
Would love to see TGV try out a pagani design to compare!
@@88laserbeam yeah, maybe the new that Explorer. Pagani takes criticism well too, maybe they'll fix their micro adjustment and put a version of the glide lock.
I totally agree
@@88laserbeam PD is very low end, you gotta admit. Maybe he should get a good San Martin. That'll give steinhart a run for its money.
Can I say, and it's probably been said a million times, that this musical intro of yours is probably the best intro to any channel on RUclips. Hands down!
I have to say some of the better Ali express brands are quite amazing! Shout out to my boys at San Martin & Cronos. Some other paganis are really nicely done too
I have yet to try San Martin, not a fan of Pagani to be honest, the ones I have tried were disappointing. Never heard of Cronos, I will look into that one, thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry To be quite honest, Sugess is one of the few Ali brands I find compelling. Everything from st19s to 7750 clones to tourbillons in designs that range from probably the best Daytona homage I've ever seen to Zenith chronograph homages to Breguet inspired tourbillons. I havent had the opportunity to have hands on with one yet but it holds similar interest for me as WMT in that they are doing something different. Cheers.
San Martin are the high end of Ali Express, which isn’t exactly high end but they do make great watches for the money. Think they’ll end up breaking away from Ali Express anyway as they seem a solid company if their history and RUclips videos of their factory are anything to go by.
Goto admit I have pagani and steeldive and the steeldive are by far superior...
My favorite watch is my Steinhart (the exact watch you show in this vid) Vintage 39 GMT. ETA 2893-2, Sapphire sandwich, 300 M. I have never had nor do I ever anticipate having Rolex money. As usual, TGV is spot on. Many of my favorites in my collection come from this Brother’s shows. I recently bought my 1st Islander ISL 73 in 38 mm and adore it. Thanks Tristano!
I agree that I don't think there's anything wrong with homage watches, but, having bought a couple myself in the past, I now prefer spending the money on a microbrand which is trying to innovate. Some of those brands are makings some really good pieces which I think are going to be collectable.
I couldn’t agree with you more. Micro brands are certainly producing exciting and quality watches. 👍
That Dan Henry with the elements of different watches is what I'd like to call a Mashup watch or Remix watch and honestly, I think we need way more of those! They are different from homages and I would personally love to see more of them.
I have a 36mm 1980s Rolex datejust automatic Sea-gull watch on a oyster bracelet . It has a day date eta 2836 homage movement with no cyclops on the flat mineral chrystal. I bought it 4 years ago and it still runs accurately after all these years and suits my look.
I have a Ricoh automatic day date watch and love that too.
I am 77 now and love watches.
I love your channel.
Paganni design milgaus is just superb. 100 quid. Feels and looks great. Nh35 movement, Saphire Crystal, 200meters of water resistance. Their V3 moonwatch is brlliant too.
I have 11 Pagani and are just great to wear. I have Hamilton, Glycine, Tag and I love to wear the PD’s to fool others thinking how the heck did he get one of those. Invicta pro diver 40mm I love, they just keep going.
I completely agree with you on the PD’s.
I agree I have many Pagani watches their value for money is unmatched.
I'll admit I have bought a couple of Pagani Design homages on AliExpress just to see what the fuss was about. I must say the quality and features for the price, like sapphire glass, ceramic bezel, Seiko movements, is incredible for the price! I'm glad you decided to cover a Rolex homage TGV. It feels like homages have been bashed a lot over the last couple of years. Maybe due to the insane hype that was generated in 2020?
They certainly have the right materials, if only they did more custom and fun dial work like WMT they would be on to a winner. Interesting point about 2020, I was not really aware of the increase in bashing homages, then again, I listen to music, or watch documentaries and movie analysis when it comes to YT, so I'm kinda far removed from watch content.
Anyways, thank you as always Alex.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry Then you might wanna take a look at San Martin, they usually have just a regular homages, but some have really cool quirks on them as well. Build quality seems a lot better than on WMT as well.
But I agree, while Pagani is actually a really cool and affordable brand, they do tend to have a poor build quality. It took them 3 tries to get speedmaster homage just right and still some models have tachymeter bezel which is unaligned. Also for example, on of Pagani's limited watches had text "WATER RESISTNAT" instead of "WATER RESISTANT" on the dial.
have some self respect
I would like to see Pagani do something with the micro adjust on their clasp. If Benyar can copy the glide lock certainly Pagani is capable. What's crazy is a lot of the complaints people made about them, they actually took to heart and upped their quality.
@@theurbangentry You should check out the San Martin SN036-G, it's an original design by San Martin, and if you pay a bit more, you even get the new Miyota 8315 movement with a 60 hour power reserve which is kind of crazy! Just One More Watch introduced me to this watch and it's kind of awesome that they're doing original designs now.
Well done! I bought two Steinhart Ocean One Diver watches about 10 years ago. One for my son and one for me. They look and run great! The quality is second to none. No scratches on the crystal or ceramic bezel. You can hit the bracelet with Scotch-Brite every couple of years and it looks brand new. The weight of it makes it feel solid as well. Lots of compliments!
Couldn't agree more my friend. I also own a 2016 Steinhart Ocean One Driver and couldn't be more happy. Everyone thinks it's a Rolex Submariner. Just dang happy. What I am interested in is your comment on Scotch-Brite.....can you be more specific on which Scotchi-Brite you use? There are many as you know. Do you only apply to the bracelet? I am due for this and it would appear it works and I never would have thought. Thank you for your time, HB
@@amgolfer3591 Once you wear it and compare it to a Submariner, it is hard to justify the price of a Rolex in my mind. I had an older Rolex Datejust for many years that I traded a firearm and $450. for many years ago. Loved the watch and got the chance to sell it before it needed servicing which was overdue. I use the 'green" Scotch-Brite and not the blue. The green perfectly mimics the brush look on the band and watch. Go in the same direction around the band as the orginal. On the shiny part of my case I had some light and and one deeper scratch. I used Flitz Polish and a Dremel with a "felt" bit . I know some people leave the natural wear and tear on watches, but for me this works great! I was told not to do it and I could ruin my watch. My friend and house builder had a badly scratched two tone Rolex Yacht-Master that he wore while working. He agreed, not hold me responsible knowing that it could decrease the vaule. I used the Flitz on the gold. It cameout perfect. Some people will think it is crazy to do this to a Rolex. I can see their point as well. Good luck my friend!
Steinhart is good value 4 money. Present my son an Ocean One Pepsi
@@oliver1965 Very nice!
Just IMHO, I would rather spend the 500 on a Seiko, Orient or something else than this though. Thanks for spending the dough as well as reviewing this for us TGV.
I bought a couple of Pagani Design homages ,and I was unhappy with the qc on both. Since then I have saved my money and managed to buy a nice new Glycine combat sub ,and a Tissot luxury powermatic 80 from E-bay at a very good price .They were twice as much as the Paganis ; but they are in a different world when it comes to quality, and I am much happier with these purchases than the " I just wasted my money feeling" the Paganis gave me.
I was wondering what that feeling was and you're right it's the I just wasted my money feeling
Get a San Martin instead, twice the price but way more than twice the quality.
Love a good gold watch however they have to be on a strap for me. Lowers the bling and makes it much classier from my viewpoint.
I recently purchased the Steinhart Ocean 39 Premium 904L. Absolutely love this watch, amazing build quality.
Thanks Lots, Sir TGV! Something nice to watch during lunch time! Have a great week ahead👍✊🖖
Thank you Aman, have a great week ahead too!
Best regards,
TGV
To be honest you have to try San Martin, however always keep in mind the price you are paying for your expectations.
But let's be honest, quality, specs and QC for the price is quite interesting.
IronWatch who is using the same case also has some interesting products, a mix of a Tudor prince or an OP6282/6085 in clouds de Paris which is quite well done and at least it homages a watch that is not on actual catalogue, they also have an interesting version of the 14060.
I own 2 WMT Rolex Sub homages. One I love as its aged to perfection Submariner that would be out of my price range & very expensive to service/maintain. The second was a Bond Rolex movie watch homage that was supposedly limited to "150 pieces". Well, after the initial run sold out - 18 months later - WMT is listing the watch again stating its limited to... you guessed it 150 pieces. Not a knock - just a FYI/buyer beware.
The best Rolex Explorer 1016 homage is the Smiths PRS-25 Everest. Superb build quality, excellent movement, great bracelet. I also have an Alpha Explorer (an homage of the Rolex Explorer 14270) which has better build quality and QC than the WMT in your video.
While QC is not always the best with Ali Express watches, I have some beautiful watches from Pagani design, among others. Only a very close inspection would show a difference from the expensive watches they imitate, besides the names, of course. I can't afford to pay multi-thousands for an Omega, but having a Pagani gives me I think much of the enjoyment for far less. So far, after a few years of buying 10 of them, no problems except some stiff crowns and bezels.
You should really checkout San Martin...I think what they offer these days is so good, even though they are homages, they really are stepping into micro brand territory. That being said, my favorite homage/micro brand has got to be Lorier...
I bought WMT’s ‘Sawblade’ .. the James Bond - Live and let die watch .. it’s really good. The saw blade bezel and the trick Indecies that change colours makes it totally worth it. Very well made. Uses a Seiko NH35a movement .. which I much prefer over the awful Miyota 8215.
Definitely recommend the ‘Sawblade’ if you’re interested in a Bond watch homage.
Oh by the way .. Clint Eastwood also wore a Rolex Root Beer GMT in Firefox (1982) it can be seen on his wrist as he looks at the watch at one point (when he’s dressed as Leon Sprague). Same watch I guess?
It was - Clint wore it in Firefox, Tightrope, and In the Line of Fire. Bradley Cooper wore one briefly after working with him, and I have a suspicion it's the same watch - a gift from Clint.
What are you thoughts of San Martin watches? Apparently, they are a big step up compared to Pagani
I have 6 Steinharts, the quality is outstanding in every way, and it appears they are coming out with some original designs now as well. In my experience with this brand, it just doesnt get any better. You can buy them direct from germany, good customer service and fast fed ex shipping. Just a great quality brand. Appreciate your kind words about them.
I also have a few of them! And I was equally exited about this way steinhart was going! But it seems they have turned all the way around! The ocean 39 500 premium for exemple it’s been discontinued for a classics 1 to 1 Batman homage! I will probably never sell mine (ocean 500 premium)
I have the stein hart Pepsi, and it gets mistaken for a Rolex. And when I let them try it on. It seals the deal that it even feels like it because of the weight.
I wear my Steinhart Ocean One 39 with pride every day, I love the 39mm case with the skinny lugs and the lume triangle instead of the pip.
What an opening sequence. It was worth clicking just for that!
The Steinhart Ocean 39 Adventure is one of the best Rolex homages I have come across. I wanted a 39mm Rolex Explorer but will never hand over the cash required for one so picked up the Steinhart and I am very pleased.
I really like how opinions change in this cloudy hobby! I was a homage hater, but that was before I got my first Rolex! But we can’t denied there is a little guilt feeling before buying an homage
WMT has an interesting mix of offerings. IMO they are best for their "Aged Edition" homages. Like their 36mm Barracuda that homages a tropical dial 1016, which IRL is a $20k+ watch. In the case of the Barracuda, the double domed acrylic crystal and jangly bracelet are part of the esthetic. It comes with a very nice leather strap too.
I have a number of Pagani homages. The quality seems to be improving all the time. The V3 moonwatch is brilliant and looks great on a good quality rubber strap. San Martin also provide excellent value, QC is good as is the attention to detail.
How can a $75, Seiko mecha quartz movement, Rolex Daytona homage be "false economy"?
The thing keeps time to within 2 or 3 seconds A MONTH without ever being serviced and will run for years.
There will also be value in a high quality homage. Because there is a market for it. Not all of us are watch snobs. We actually like a good quality timepiece at an affordable price point.
I love your non snobbery attitude to watches, I discovered my beloved seiko flight master thanks to you!
Good call on the spyderco, I myself have several stainless models. So strong & so low profile. You hardly know it’s in your pocket-
Who would have guessed it. There are 4 types of homage. Love it.
As the gray market / 2nd hand price of an Explorer creeps up over 10k, I can't help but consider alternatives, like a Smiths Everest. WMT make some interesting pieces, certainly compelling visually, though I think for the dough I'll seek out a Bulova Super Seville or Ricoh like yours (I'm after day dates, if not the Explorer : Everest avenue). Each offers a bit more proverbial bang for the buck, I think, though none of them make an Oman dial! Talk about niche!
I've had great luck with Seiko, Pagani, Addiesdive and San Martin homages. Great for gifts to introduce someone to the hobby.
Isn't giving someone a fake watch a bit like pissing in a bottle and passing it off as whiskey?
Hands down - Burei Sovereign ! San Martin - Cronos and Steinhart !
I recently buy a vintage MORTIMA (french watch) "date just homage" from the 70' in 36mm for 10$...
...it's a incredible watch !
The Ricoh is desirable too !!!
I'm very pleased with my new Smith's Commando, an homage of a very obscure 1969/1972 Rolex. Such an odd and rare piece which would be a fascinating topic for one of your historical deep dives.
Hi TGV
“This is really going to annoy the watch snobs...and that’s a great bonus”😂😂😂
Keep up the good work👍
I have a Dan Henry 1970 (compressor style) and a San Martin (CPT Willard) which I got before Seiko decided to start reissuing their dive watch back catalogue. Both are excellent, with San Martin (Ali Express) being slightly better finish and quality (marginal). Anyway, a good homage is great especially if it brings watches into the range of mere mortals! Onwards and upwards TGV.
My current collection is practical. I have a bracelet Bulova chrono in a navy dial, a silver Bulova "tank" watch in white dial with leather band, and finally, my wife's graduation gift to me, a brown leather Hamilton tank, silver with white dial.
Your comments on Steinhart compelled me to glance at their webpage. Steinharts look NICE.
I'm new to your channel, and I've been watching a few videos, enough to notice that you're not a "tank" watch collector. Besides personal preference, is there anything I should know about my beloved tank watches?
Masterfully done, TGV! I am sure it is quite irritating that you must keep reiterating your stance on homage pieces, but I am glad to hear you again clarify not only your stance but the differentiation between levels of homage pieces. I was also equally happy to hear you again praise the Steinhart brand. So very very many watch snobs try to express disdain and derision for Steinhart pieces when they have NO idea what they are taking about! I have five Steinharts and they all are SUPREME pieces. I have put them through daily beatings, actually scuba dive with them, travel with the GMTs and wear them regularly. They keep excellent time and look remarkable. You WILL NOT find better bang for your buck ANYWHERE in the watch world…..period. ESPECIALLY if you are looking for a automatic Rolex homage. I have watches ranging from multiple thousand dollar pieces all the way down to $50 dollar Casios, and value for dollar Steinhart wins. Wins over Squale, Tudor, Orient and any other that I can think of. The only brand that comes close to value for money in my opinion is Certina due to their original designs and movements, but their finishing is probably not as high as Steinharts….think link screws vs pins. Anyway, highly highly highly recommend Steinhart. As for the WMT, I too have looked at them often, but I couldn’t pull the trigger on one because they cost nearly the same as a Steinhart but have a poor grade movement and I have never held one. They do look quite good though! They certainly have some different designs to chose from. When it came to me getting a DateJust homage , I went with, as you mentioned, @longislandwatch ISL39. It is exquisite. Miyota9015, movement and to date is one of the most comfortable watches I own. He doesn’t do gold tone I don’t think though. I went with Marc, because I have purchase from him before and I love what he is doing with his brand. Absolutely chuffed to bits with my Islander.
TGV, so good to see you well and doing what you do best. Excellent points, and tip top production! I am happy to see that as well as a birth year and a passion for life we also share a joy in confounding and irritating watch snobs. Be well, my friend! Wear what you love! Onward and upward!
Thank you TGV. This why you are the standard. Some of us are not rich. Your egalitarian approach is so refreshing. Thanks (2nd viewing, lol 😂)
I have one of their watches which is a near 1-1 homage to the Milgauss 6541 (my favorite Rolex reference) which in reality would cost over a quarter of a million dollars and would be too fragile to wear. I absolutely love it, and wear it joyfully all the time. The quality is great for $500, and is much better than buying a fake which is the only way I would ever get this design on my wrist. I have no qualms about the WMT on the dial; on the contrary, what could be more of a representation of one’s true enthusiasm than wearing an homage to an obscure reference while refusing to defile their wrist with a fake?
Where u buy the watch ?
Hi,
You have my vote. I love 36mm watches and don’t understand why more watchmakers are not focusing on them. There is certainly a demand as noted by the frenzy, for example, when Timefactors release their Smiths watches on line and they sell out within minutes. I managed to acquire two after a number of unsuccessful attempts.
Bye the way, great and informative videos, as usual. 👍
The more I delve deeper into watches the more I respect original design. A design that has taken inspiration of a watch or a brand and turned it into there own thing . Case in point a Khaki King we all know is a great alternative to an Explorer and it has brand history. Brands that profit and piggy back off the back of another brands success I’m not a fan of! This is coming from my songwriting background mainly! Beatles Yesterday will never be done better than original. However Hendrix’s All along the Watch Tower??? Inspiration from Dylan and turned it into a far better song!
Check out the Michael Hedges rendition of Watchtower if you don't know of it already. There's a brilliant live version on RUclips. 👍
I have to completely disagree, first off the Khaki King takes zero inspiration from the Explorer, the two may have similarities in some basic design aesthetics but are so vastly different. Hamilton is drawing from their long history of making field watches and are in no way trying to mimic Rolex. They are simply different watches that both fit the same function which is why they are so commonly compared. When it comes to music, I overall think it's a terrible analogy that ultimately isn't comparable to watches or any other luxury goods. You can personally enjoy any song in existence with a few clicks of a mouse, the same can not be said about physically enjoying a sought after watch. A $5k, $10k, or $20k+ watch is something many people can not even remotely consider outside of their wildest fantasies. Telling them they shouldn't enjoy a substitute that fits their lifestyle is silly gatekeeping.
Thanks Tristiano,
you have validated my Freccione 1655 from Steinhart. Now I can wear it with more enjoyment!
I recently picked up Seiko's Cartier Tank homage from the 80's and I love it. Scratched my Tank itch perfectly. It even has a blue cabachon!
I would definitely choose Long Island Watches (it's where I live, I HAVE to shop there first) and I would definitely use the modder that I believe Mark mentioned, LumeShot. Great video. More please.
homages is a topic, so good to hear from you. Thx for this informatic review about the WM watch - again (‼️) Watching your YT while drinking some wine. Interesting what you state acc Steinhart. Was a present (Ocean One Pepsi) to my son for his Master degree - get going 🚀
As a Omani i just love that you got the Omani logo dial.
I have a Steinhart Ocean Vintage Red 39 that I got for 450cad (around 350 euro) and it's been the best looking diver and submariner homage that I own. Steinhart sure makes amazing quality watches.
I agree!
I love the cosplay analogy you used, so accurate 👍🏼
The orient president is an homage that has interested me for several years - simply because we so rarely see such a blatant homage from a brand that is so established in its own right as orient. Unfortunately they have become hard to find, and typically sell for more than they are really worth.
Really enjoyed seeing the WMT. I’ve looked at them for awhile and recently pulled the trigger. Good watch but you are spot on. If you buy another one, I’d like to see another video.
Nice job sir!
Thank you so much, very glad to hear that!
Best regards,
TGV
I would love to see you reviewing the Islander Brookville Hi-Beat. It is a combination of the Seiko SARB, Rolex OP and Rolex Datejust. Amazing piece, talk to Marc!
Gosh I've missed this channel! Subbed on my other account and completely forgot about resubbing on my new account. Like meeting up with an old friend. Glad to see more homage videos from you 👍
Very convincing reasons to get an homage, but I still personally can’t get around the idea that for the same money, you can get an original design from the likes of Tissot, Hamilton or Seiko.
OceanX seems to specialize in homaging the SeaDweller/DeepSea style watch in a variety of colors. They even have occasional special editions with swiss movements and Damascus cases. They don't have the depth rating of the Rolexes but they're beautiful.
I recently purchased a Tudor bb gmt, and I have worn it nonstop for the last month. I have considered selling some of my other watches, mostly homages, but I know I will keep a few , my question is this: Should I let them sit in a drawer or wear them periodically? I believe I heard your take on the winder, and it made sense, how often should I be dusting them off and wearing them ? nh35's mostly, a selita, a miyota or two make up the majority ..thank you for your hard work sir
I had a steinhart and I was disappointed in it . It got flipped. The San Martin are the best . . Built really well .
Please do a review of the rootbeer gmt from Steinhart! It's a really unique homage in my opion and there is no review to be found yet. I think it captures the 80s Miami Vice feelings some of us desire! Thank you for the great video.
Regarding the point made about upkeep being a part of the overall cost of ownership, I recently had a 1960's Mido Multifort Powerwind serviced for $195. When I picked it up, a lady was there picking up a Rolex that I clearly overheard was a service (not a repair). The charge was $795. Never having owned a Rolex, that was an eye-opener for me.
Good to hear your views on Steinhart, like the look but wasn’t sure of the quality. Must have a gander. Great episode. 👍
Thank you Jim!
I will try and get a new one in at some point to really show how good they are.
Best regards,
TGV
I bought the WMT Seawolf recently, a very good homage to the Blancpain Fifty-fifty Fathoms of the 70s.
I don't have a fav Homage watch but that one seems cool good video as always have a happy Sunday.
After getting my rolex stolen i decided to get an invicta pro diver. Best decision ever. Gets more compliments than when i had the rolex, keeps time perfectly (quite surprised), got no scratches although i wear it for everything including snorkeling (also surprised), and if i get robbed i can just buy another one.
Also fun story: i've had it for almost 2 years but it's my second invicta, as the first one i got mugged from it after only a couple weeks of getting it. Saved my life, i had some very old family jewelery on myself plus wallet and everything and they were happy with the watch as they probably thought it was a Rolex. I let them take it with a smile also saved me from putting up a fight and risking my life as they were 3 vs 1 and probably had knives.
Great watches, I still have one somewhere that I purchased to review donkeys ago. Thank you sharing. Here's to many more adventures with your pro diver. Stay safe and well.
Best regards,
TGV
As a a Steinhart owner I can confirm absolute quality and value for money. It makes you doubt Rolex a bit.
No mention of Ginault? They make a pretty nice Submariner/Seamaster homage in their just released Silent Service.
I have one (a Connery Sub) and I have to say that TGV absolutely nailed it on the pros and especially the cons.
I really enjoyed your vid! I enjoy homages too. I chuckled at the bit you mentioned about watch snobs. I just did a plea on my own vid for all to NOT be watch snobs. 😂
TGV, get the root beer Steinhart. I've been wearing an Ocean GMT Ceramic for years now and love it. Would be very interested to hear your take on it.
I’m thinking of pulling the trigger on the 42mm gmt master II homage from steinhart. Really want a Pepsi bezel in my collection and they have a ceramic bezel model now. With a SW 330-1 movement, the 680 USD price isn’t bad. My only gripe is the date magnifier isn’t very good.
Love to see a review of Swiss value brand like Revue Thommen, Gevril, Eterna.... Thanks!
I love my 36mm Parnis.
Another great video, TGV!! There is a watch with a unique complication that I would like you to review, The Fendi Crazy Carats. It is ridiculous, yet I can't help but find it interesting.
You can’t totally dismiss the Ali Express stuff until you’ve handled a San Martin, definitely a cut above. I bought the 1953 vintage sub homage on a whim and it’s a great watch with zero QC issues.
Just as I was trying to go to bed, oh well haha
hello ,I love that ricoh.can you tell me where i can get new old stock.thankyou
Well put together video, but IMO Tudor is not a homage specially these days.
I bought the Steinhart Root Beer 39. I love it and the quality is great; the only thing I don't like about it is that they used blue anti reflective coating on the sapphire crystal and I think it feels too modern. I wish they'd used clear or even no AR. It's obvious enough that I've considered trying to replace the crystal!
Thank you TGV, another great video......any war room updates coming? Say hello to Hugo for me. Ciao
Watchfinder did one today(ish) on the Citizen Rolex homage for £300 it’s looking pretty sound for the money
I own two pagani, both have a good quality! Last one homage of Planet Ocean is absolutely gorgeous!
I have a WMT with a that looks like a Big Crown Submariner with an explorer dial, and Red Triangle bezel with no pearl. I wish they made the Bezel Unidirectional, but honestly most of the big crowns are not unidirectional so I am not complaining. Looks great on a Drab Canvas Barton Strap. It is one of my go to weekend watches.
When I think about hommage watches as a possible starting point for the hobby I realize how much my taste has changed over the years since I started collecting. But it's hard to tell if you develop your taste and preferences more by experiencing genuine entry level pieces or by lusting after high end grails that you might want to pay tribute to with the choice of a cheaper watch.
Excellent point and observations, thank you Klaus, I often wonder the same things.
Best regards,
TGV
That's really a cool watch, the crest and especially the Arabic style numerals on the date wheel. Thanks for sharing as always TGV.
Another great video thank you :
My Rolex oyster perpetual with the explorer dial is an in company homage , same dial and movement. Now on the Tudor website they have posted that the black bay divers are designed after the Tudor Submariners of the 1950s and 60s .