Top 10 Types of Watches To Avoid In 2022 - Don't Buy A Watch Until You've Seen This!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Today I share the top 10 types of watches you should absolutely avoid-an annual and often requested topic on this channel. I discuss what types of watches to look out for, what I’ve learned from my own mistakes, the best and worst places to buy watches, why certain markets are shadier than you think, absurd watch trends, and the effects of social media on unsuspecting watch enthusiasts. Whether you're planning to buy a ten-dollar Casio, the latest Apple watch, or a new ultra-luxury Rolex, make sure to watch this video first!
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TGV, I love that you're advocating for financial responsibility and not going in to debt for a watch. Very well done! Keep up the great work.
I love your channel, bro!
I just got an 18K IWC portfino and got 100$ until next pay. Yolo
(psssttt.....) (Do it, you know you want it)...,.
(Go ahead pod, stick that grubby little hand of your's down in that back pocket, grab that wallet and let's spend some of that hard earned podcast money, you know you deserve it)..... (I mean, every other mother f***** out here has one of those except for you, aren't you good enough?),,..,. (Plus, the Federal Reserve counterfeits all our money anyway out of thin air, then charges you interest, so technically it's all absolutely worthless... I mean you can't take it with you when you go bro.....)........
(You know we deserve this, so do it....)
@@XShotokanX just bought a AP, 200k. Still got a few million
I just bought hello kitty watch, still got 30btc in my wallet
Social media has definitely cheapened the experience of enjoying what you have. You get robbed out of the joy of falling in love with your watch because you're constantly being told that you need something else. The right watch will find you if you just give it time ironically. Great and relevant content as always.
That’s only true if you actually pay attention to what social media tells you! I personally don’t give a shit about it. I buy the watches that I like and I buy them for myself and not to please anyone else. I also don’t fall victim to what the “in- crowd” thinks I should have. Lastly, all those posers buy the hype watches only so they can show off and they’re stupid enough to pay massively inflated prices for it.
In other words, stop caring about what the people that are of no value to you say or think and start doing you! 🙂
You should read “the subtle art of not giving a f*ck”.
The more choices people have, the less happy they are with their choice.
If social media "robs you of joy", then maybe its time to delete it like so many of us have.
While I partially agree with you, I believe that social media had a tremendously positive impact on the watch community. Mainly by making the hobby more attainable, understandable for masses. It allowed tons of watch enthusiasts around the world to connect, share, educate each other and help with developing interest and taste in watches. Thanks to social media I learned so much about movements, modding, fixing watches. Learned and bought the brands and models I would've never known otherwise. Found friends and fellow watch nerds. Saw hilarious dramas unfold. All in all it's not the social media itself but the way we use it and allow it to influence us. I love to consume RUclips, reddit, WUS, Watchcrunch and many other resources, but I never really buy anything solely based on what I see there. Take TGV - I frequently disagree with him and certainly don't share his taste in watches, but I do enjoy his content.
Because of TGV, and this channel, I bought my first automatic timepiece (Seiko SARB 035), and now I also have the Seiko SKN809 and the mighty Flighty. My next target is the Hamilton Khaki Field automatic. But one of the best of his recommendations was the Casio DW5600. Absolutely love this watch.
Completely agree that seeing a watch in the flesh is essential if you intend to actually wear it. I bought a rose gold flyback chronograph online and when it arrived I hated how it sat on my wrist and immediately returned it. I also absolutely loved the Tudor BB58 but decided to go to a dealer to try it on before buying, and I'm so glad I did because it looked like a child's toy on my wrist. The opposite can also be true; while I was in a jewellers one day I asked to try on a white dialled Omega Seamaster Professional, a watch I've always thought looked awkward and ungainly, but when I saw it on my wrist I fell in love. I have never seen any watch suit any wrist as well as that Seamaster suited mine.
TL;dr always try a watch on before committing to buying it
TGV is the definitive watch enthusiast. I just purchased my first Orient Kamasu, absolute gem! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Thank you sir! Enjoy your Orient, killer watch! 😎🙏🥂
Best regards,
TGV
Great watch! May it bring you much joy.
I know my limit TGV, which is about 500 quid. The Baltic Aquascaphe will fit that. Thanks for mentioning the Bambino, a watch that I do own. I love your inclusivity on the scale of Casio to Cartier and now I know I can save for the absolute grail watch if I can break the psychological 500 quid barrier. As always an education, this presentation was much needed. ✌️
The problem is that there’s so many cool pieces for 500-1k. I get impatient trying to save up and always come across another 600$ one I “need” lmao. Then I have start the watch savings piggy bank all over again hahaha.
This does bring up the 100 good watches vs 1 AWESOME watch collector’s conundrum. Modern manufacturing and CAD have allowed many talented watch designers with a vision to turn out some awesome pieces that aren’t breaking the bank. If a watch as rugged and “functionally beautiful” as a marathon was produced in 1960 and sold at the same price as a Patek customers would say it was worth more money than the hand built slightly imperfect Nautilus. Nowadays manufacturers have all but perfected mass production and need in house hand made pieces to ask outrageous sums for or the pricing seems absolutely absurd. Does that mean that the Nautilus is going to function better than the GSAR? Not at all, they serve the same purpose and if we were comparing them side by side, apples to apples like a steel diver vs a steel diver, in the real world, one might be ever so slightly better at performing its duties than the other but is that tiny difference worth a 90,000$ premium? Lol hell no!
Enthusiasts like us place more value on them as jewelry because we don’t necessarily need a watch. If your life absolutely depended on your timepiece would you rather be wearing an FP Journe or a Casio? Exactly lol. I’m willing to bet that if you took any individuals collection of ten 1000k watches and stuck them in a closet with someone else’s collection of ten 1,000,000$ watches and opened that closet 100 years later that the “cheap” pieces won’t have just turned to dust because they weren’t expensive. There are very few valid reasons for buying expensive vs good that I can think of, maybe appreciation as an investment instead of for wearing pleasure? Point is just because something is expensive doesn’t mean it’s that much better, and just because something is good doesn’t mean it needs to be expensive. I can buy any watch I want. Seriously. No watch is out of my reach. I have been blessed/lucky to have picked some good investments at the right time. I wear a Tudor BB58 every single day and it makes me as happy if not more so than my neighbor who wears a different rose gold Rolex every day of the week simply because they were costly. Don’t buy into the madness!!
Add bit more, sell some shit, don't go for takeaway for a while, don't buy clothes. And you are set for something better.
10 year ago I quit buying watches that cost more than $50 because I had lost (or had stolen, in the case of my JeanRichard) every watch I had ever owned. Recently found your channel and rediscovered my Love for watches. I wanted to thank you for talking about replicas. I didn't even consider the negative impacts, and so didn't hesitate to buy fake watches, but since then I have found quite a few lower level watches that I genuinely Love. My Casio MTP-4700 that I got for $6 is one of my favorites now, and as much as I like my Submariner and can appreciate it, I don't ever have any occasion where it feels appropriate to wear it.
Just recently bought a Omega Seamaster 300m in black! It’s a beauty! Been watching you for close to 5 years now and I feel like you inspired me to truly appreciate the craft. A huge milestone for me turning 25 and getting a recent promotion.Thank you TGV!
Nice story and congrats on the Seamaster! Amazing purchase! Was it the new ceramic bezel wave dial variant?
10 01:50 The "unexperienced" watch;
09 03:53 The over-hyped watch;
08 06:12 The impulse buy;
07 07:45 Watch trends that age badly;
06 09:41 The grey market;
05 11:14 The shady watch dealer;
04 13:29 Debt;
03 14:59 Fashion watches;
02 15:52 Smartwatches;
01 18:17 Fake watches
You are a godsend!
thanks bro
Thank you so much I can’t stand that dinosaur stuff
I would say the what I am calling "kickstarter watch" as I see so many that pay for advertisment on social media and end up being less than what was promised or worse never released. As always love the videos TGV!
they end up looking like ali baba junk
Another great video! I certainly agree with all your points! I'd say one more category to avoid is vintage watches without a plan for servicing or repair. I've been burned so many times because a vintage watch I initially thought was in good shape suddenly died on me. A good plan is to always assume vintage watches are unserviced so that you can pay accordingly and have a good watchmaker ready to help
I agree! My first proper watch, bought a year ago, was a 1969 Omega Seamaster Cosmic. Although it at a very reasonable cost I discovered after servicing it that it wouldn't be practical as a daily wearer. I now wear it around the house and love it, but I had to buy another watch to wear outdoors - especially when it's raining!
I really enjoy your analytical commentary and interpretation of what you discuss on this channel. It is truly refreshing.
As a dedicated collector I’ve been super frustrated over silliness of the market lately. Thank you for bringing some sensibility back into the community🙏 Great work and wish you all the best TGV✌🏼
Great video. I fell into all of the traps you mentioned, except counterfeit watches, over the past ten years. Two years ago I decided to step back from the flipping frenzy and focus on a single brand - Sinn. There is one authorized dealer in the US - WatchBuys. No worries about counterfeits or grey market watches. I have two, a 857 and a UX. I am the sole owner and know everything about these watches - how they’ve been treatet, service history, etc.. No, they’re not Rolexes or Omegas but I REALLY love my German watches and they are tough as heck!
Sinn makes great, great watches ...technology and quality that really do justify their retail asking price.
I also managed to avoid impulse purchases. It took me half a year to make and to find the next watch I wanted. Sometimes time needs time :) Thanks for this video, TGV. You nailed it!
Thank you Sebastian as always. You are amazingly patient, you have my admiration and respect.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry I'm just getting into watches and I've made some impulse buy, what are some things that i can look for in a youtuber that should be red flags and if they're reviews are not legit? Thank you.
I recently made an impulse purchase of a 1965 Vulcain watch from Switzerland. Seller had a good reputation from buyers and stated the watch was in working order. The price was low so I purchased it. Got it and the photos were spot on, in fact it looked better than shown. However, when I put it on, after about 30 minutes it was running really fast. I did some online investigating and found several reasons it could run fast. I decided against returning it and take a chance it can be fixed. If not, it's a beautiful reminder of what can happen when making an impulse buy.
@@AboveTheClouds87 if a RUclipsr says you should not buy a Rolex (a company which delivers good quality and has history) and instead, you should buy a fashion watch which costs a few hundred dollars but it is worth nothing on the secondary watch market. It’s been one example in the past and apparently, that youtuber was earning money from the sales of that cheap and worthless watch.
@@AboveTheClouds87 I don't want to offend some RUclipsrs, but it even affects the relatively well-known channels like Bark and Jack or Theo and Harris. Watches on these channels are often only rated based on photos. I think if the RUclipsr in the video isn't holding the watch in his hand but does leave a review, that's the best red flag for you.
Greetings,
Sebastian
Hey Tristan, love your content as always. I often listen to your video's during my commute in the car and the audio (besides the intro) is always very quiet. Maybe you could apply a modest compressor and some gain in post to level out the audio a bit so there are less peaks and they are closer to -3dB to -1dB.
Since what happens now is I turn up the volume and I can hear you fine, but then an ad comes on and I jump in my seat how loud it is XD
I just want to say thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos. You are so down to earth and the history and education and culture you provide behind brands and specific watches is just wonderful. You have really helped me appreciate watches that I didn’t before, as well as helped me make decisions on new ones. So great to know there’s people out there so passionate about watches!
So true!!
Most high-end watch images in ads or even on websites (Omega and Rolex, for example) are not photos of the watch, but computer generated images of the watch. That is why you have to go see them in person. Years ago I was planning on getting a silver dial Speedmaster until I saw it in person and decided I liked the black dial one better.
Your recent Seiko dress watch video inspired me, that was the one type of watch I was missing. Found a vintage Seiko World Timer on eBay for $75 with shipping. Gold-plated, GMT subdial and alarm and it all works, crazy good deal. So good looking. Cheers TGV!
Wow, congrats!!!!! So glad I could help, enjoy you Seiko!!!!
Best regards,
TGV
555
Is it mechanical
@@theurbangentry Have you thought of reviewing an Amphibia
@@oscarosullivan4513 no it's quartz
Great show man! Impulse purchases have been the worst and best parts of this hobby!
You´re absolutely right Russ: My Direnzo 04 and my Irukandji both were impulse purchases and I love them both. There are other impulse purchases that I better don´t mention though 😭😭😭
Great choices and I agree, TGV. My 2¢... watches from upstart microbrands who do not stand behind their product. I've said it before; you do not merely wear the watch, you wear the brand, and I only wish to represent those brands who by their actions earn my support.
So glad to view your podcasts, again! I forgot my Google pw n had no access to change the pw until TODAY! Missed all of your pods for 2 .5 months--eek!
TGV, could you make a video talking about Certina? I love some of their diving and ceramic watches
I have a long time ago, but you are so right, long over due.
Funnily enough I was researching them yesterday. Unfortunately I do not know an official AD that can give me access, so I may have to just buy one. But it will happen in 2022! I promise.
Thank you Angus, excellent suggestion.
Best regards,
TGV
so after over 2 years using apple watch Ive got tired with it and Im on a way back to the "live watches" and Im trying many variants in the local stores and loonikg on YT. So now I came to your channel and I will be coming back here .... I really like the way you explain things and your overall attitude. I'm Following now :)
Great episode , with sound advice to new collectors. Love your point about seeing a watch in the flesh, is so different to just viewing on line. Your grail watch might not be what you expected, or in my case simply not fit with 8 inch wrists .
TGV I’m so glad you don’t try and flog us some crappy coffee/straps or overhype watches thank-you for being you.
"Most of this toxic positivity we are constantly bombarded with is absolutely false" - man, you are an absolute gent. Many of these rules are rules for life not just for watches.
Two of my best watched are ones that I never expected - one is a Casio EFV-110D which I had my eye on and ended up becoming something I really love, and the other is the G Shock GBDH 1000. Both of which I didn't get into debt for and absolutely love on my wrist. Thanks for being a gentlemanly voice of sanity in the world, from Dublin, Ireland.
"Toxic positivity" sounds like something House MD would say : )
I'm glad you touched on the social media aspect and how it effects impulse buys.
Good, informative video Trsitano. O&U!
Hey TGV, first of all i love your videos, keep up the great work! I just wanted to give you some constructive criticism: Since you like to create longer videos with several segments you should look into adding timestamps in your videos - that way if a viewer looks for information on one specific watch/subject he can easily skip to it. Especially in your really long videos (podcasts) that would be a nice addition.
Apart from that i absolutely love that you add a lot of history and personal experience to your videos instead of just keeping it short.
Have a great day :)
Your comments about seeing the watch in person is so true I wanted a tudor so badly but on wrist it just wasn't me keep up the good work
Great video sir, have to agree with all. My only real "watch to avoid" is and has always been the one you think you want/should have. It's fine to be steered/inspired/educated by people (you inspired me to buy my first mechanical watch, a Seiko 5 many years ago and I will always be greatful) but what is right for others doesn't mean it's right for you
I have so many Steinhart watches in my collection. They bring so much quality and craftsmanship for the money. Not saying the watches are cheap, but you get the maximum amount of watch for every buck you spend on it. And they have wonderful customer service too. This is a brand that many other brands can learn a lot from
I had two Steinharts which I sold to finance higher end purchases. They were top quality for the money and were 39mm versions. I just noticed they have bought out an Explorer 2 style. That might be the Steinhart that I will buy next.
SURE 100% like you said I myself have an ocean one gmt coke since 2 years ago and the quallity and accuracy is second to none at least at that price level
I've had a bad customer service experience with Steinhart, so I can't agree that they are wonderful. However, they do make watches that represent good value.
As TGV pointed out, Steinhart also has some interesting original designs. Also, a couple of their Rolex homages I would actually consider buying, one of them a replica of a vintage Rolex that hasn't been produced for several decades, and another a Rolex-style watch in a color that Rolex never made. For those reasons, I think these 2 would be quite acceptable.
Well Steinharr learns a lot from other brands, if you see what I mean...
A brand that the respect I have for myself prevents me to ever put on my wirst. Seems that not everybody has the same self-respect and relation to honor.
I'm happy to see you bringing up counterfeit watches. They really have become a scourge of the watch market , and some are so well done that even experienced collectors have been fooled ( not me thank goodness). Also , I loved the quote from Marcus Aurelius !!!
I'm new to this channel and hobby, and I so appreciate your content. Thank you!
Thank you TGV for such an informative video! Agree with all your points, one of the very few genuine horology enthusiasts on RUclips. As usual a masterpiece video. Cheers🥂
Great video as always, and a great quote from Marcus Aurelius.
I wouldn’t consider myself a serious watch collector, but I wound up (intended) with quite a few by being a junk hunter. Thrift stores, garage sales and pawn shops have allowed me to fuel this habit without costing an arm and a leg. The adrenaline rush of finding a nice piece for pennies on eBay prices is what keeps me looking, and satisfies my need for something different. Winding a $3, 1970s Timex, and seeing the second hand take off always makes me happy.
Your first statement is irrelevant. It's great that you have that habit of buying junk watches but that has nothing to do with serious watch collecting.
I agree with your watch hunting idea. I’ve done the same thing, and you are correct. You can sometimes find an amazing watch, that someone thought is either junk or it doesn’t work.
@@SUPERSPORT_LONDON you’re irrelevant.
That's what I'm doing too!
@@SUPERSPORT_LONDON
What is "serious watch collecting"?
Your Italian was spot on perfetto. Absolutely agree with all the points raised here and have learned so much from your channel. Keep well and stay successful. Thank you brother.
Thank you TGV for another wonderful video with great recommendations! I have recently purchased the Tissot powermatic 80 chronometer certified for an astonishing deal for only $350 on Amazon! I really enjoy having “real watches” with real history and a high quality work horse movement that will last for many years to come! I also held in person and experienced wearing a Yema Air-force 2 watch! My friend only paid $600 and it has an in-house movement I believe if I’m referring to the correct model? Thank you TGV! I strongly agree with you! Stay healthy and well! Nicholas
Reasoned. Well presented. Tough to argue with any of your points. Glad you mentioned smart “watches”, cause they may be smart but they ain’t “watches”.
So true on replica watches. It's amazing the amount of homages you can get that look pretty darn close to the originals, but without any of the faking or counterfeiting or criminal activity going on. They're not even that expensive, which is perfect if you want to "try out" a style of watch, like the Submariner, before getting something more expensive!
They are perfect if you want to be in the second league, the one of imitators and fakes. To pretend you have something that you do not have. Only for this they are great...
@@vianouche1 Many watches are in the thousands of dollars. Obviously you know this. Not many people can afford a watch like that. Example being the submariner. Now obviously the much cheaper ones like Invicta isn't a Rolex, but it's the next best thing for $70 compared to 4-5 thousand dollars. As a consumer, it's the company's job to win me over. If another competitor can make something similar for much cheaper and of good quality then I'm gunna go for it. It doesn't matter if Rolex made it first. It's their job to convince me that the price they're asking is worth it. There's much more important things I'd spend 5k on before I buy 1 watch. Anyone who argues this is just a watch snob.
I am not really a watch enthusiast but this clip is really good and stands out from advocating what people „should“ desire and getting themselves in to debt or showing off with fake. Well done.
Great video as always. You touched on this but I would avoid a watch solely based on brand of it doesn’t speak to you. That is why the grey market is thriving. Too many people caring more about the name or logo on the watch than the piece itself. We are all guilty of not wanting to step down a notch after hitting a certain milestone/level on products. I play guitar and can certain confirm that playing a $2000 guitar doesn’t make you better than when playing a $500 guitar. Same goes with watches. Appreciate the time piece for what it is and you can’t go wrong.
The guitar comparison doesn’t make sense. The reason for buying a better guitar is not to make you a better guitarist, but to have something that sounds better, feels better and is nicer to play. Same with watches, a good one doesn’t tell time better than a cheap Casio but it’s much more satisfying to look at, to touch, to keep on the wrist.
Like the stoic angle on this video; enjoyed it.
Last year I've bought my first mechanical watch. I really wanted a Navy/gilt Neptune III, but finally I've seen a good discount on Chr. Ward Trident, so I've bought it because of better finishing, sapphire, less loud movement. Now I regret not pulling a trigger for Lorier. I now understand that you have to listen to your heart when buying something stupid as a watch and don't concentrate on specs that much. Plus Lorier has discontinued Navy/gilt Neptune, at least for now.
Why is buying a watch stupid?
I love that I was wearing my cheap wooden watch I bought five years ago when you started talking about watch trends that didn't age well. I still think it looks good. I even like it enough that I recently changed the battery in it instead of throwing it in a drawer and forgetting about it.
I see that TGV's words went against the gran and splintered opinion. 😄 I'll leave now. ..
Have to agree there's just something off with the look of a nice suit and an apple watch.
I own a Garmin Fenix and use it exclusively for cycling and multiday hiking. It's an amazing bit of kit but it goes straight back in the watch box after I'm done using it. It's a legitimate tool watch for me. It's not my main navigation tool, but it could genuinely get me out of life threatening circumstances that a mechanical watch couldn't. There's a place for them... But as you say, not as a daily. At least not for me.
Great video as always.
My everyday is my GMT ll Batman, true Batman with oyster bracelet. I love this time piece, it is exactly what I love about Rolex, class, masculine and straight quality!
Hugo was in great form this evening 👌
Fully agree with your assessments, especially the smart watches. I know some have benefited from them acting as a gateway, but they are ultimately disposable once the technology inevitably moves on. Such a waste!
I would also caution against the microbrand band wagon. Choose carefully. There are some excellent options, brands like Lorier really trying to do things right. But the are others you know are not likely to be around in a few years.
A genuine watch enthusiast giving good practical advice through experience and knowledge. So refreshing amongst all the other ‘same old’ content out there. Love the bit about reviews being in person and not via pictures. So true! Stay well.
Oh and I was lucky enough to get the ivory Safari plus you inspired my purchase of the Hyperion instead of the Tudor GMT. Saved some cash and very happy with it! Oh and yes I had to get the Flighty!
I am not sure what to thank you for first, just awesome my friend, thank you for everything!
Enjoy your Lorier watches, I am so proud to have you as a fellow Safari owner. Onwards and upwards!
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry The Time Teller is someone who falls into the first one. The golden BB58 with it’s price is shocking
@@oscarosullivan4513 What's wrong with The Time Teller?
Smashing it TGV! I think I’m pulling the trigger on a g shock tomorrow. All the best 🦖
To this day G Shocks are my favorite watches. Tougher than nails and last forever. I bought a 5000 in 1986 while in the Corps and beat that watch for over a decade before my son lost it. 😳
I agree with this list. My idea of the FIRST type of watch to avoid is the watch you cannot responsibly afford. I have some respectable legacy pieces (Omega, mostly) that are very much out of my price range, but I inherited them.
My attitude before buying a watch is to ask myself: 1) What environment or under what conditions will you be using the watch? The conditions for an auto mechanic are different than the conditions for an accountant.
2) What do you want the watch to do for you? (What complications are necessary or desired?)
3) What type of movement is desired (mechanical or quartz)?
4) What is the price limit?
When I think like that, I don’t overspend and I enjoy the watches that I get.
I also agree that seeing an Apple Watch with a suit is like seeing a man wear sneakers with a suit. How many of us have seen that? It just takes the whole image down several levels.
I dont agree with staying away from smartwatches. It was a smartwatch that got me into mechanical watches to begin with. I seen a skeleton watch of some kind that i really liked but it was way out of the range i was willing to spend on a watch. Behold the smartwatch and the ability to put what ever watch face you want on it. So i bought a 40mm galaxy watch and it was over from there. what i was willing to pay for a watch drastically changed soon after that point as well.
That's cool you got into mechanical watches but it's still good advice in general. Smart watches have a very limited lifespan. For casual use? Sure why not. But it just doesn't look right on a suit for example.
@@wasteddude not exactly casual use, you can do a lot of things with smartwatches, from their accurate timekeeping, to calendar, reminders, text, calls, step counter, heart rate, spo2, blood pressure measurement, and the most important thing to me is contactless payment as I don't have to carry a big wallet of cash and cards. I don't like to call them smart watches, they're wearable devices, like a phone, just small and look like a watch.
I agree with you. I also became interested to mechanical watches because of smart watches
@@phucth91 I totally agree. I have an Apple watch. It is not an alternative to my other watches. It is something I use as a smartphone alternative, especially when paired with my airpods. For the convenience and functionality I accept the short lifespan. I cant make phone calls or listen to music with my Alpinist.
Having said that I totally agree an Apple watch is a disposable tool. A real watch is a totally different beast. It can’t replace a real watch. A real watch is a thing of beauty.
Interesting pov! I mean, the very definition of smart watch is not really fitting as a term for TGV's critique. I could say any watch with some additional function other than hour of the day is smart. I assume as I can't recall this instant that TGV meant digital and connected to smart phones.
TGV,you've made some excellent points as usual. Some just fell flat but no one's perfect! You're still way ahead of the game! Most of the the other sites have become so terrible!
I say: avoid almost any man's Rolex watch at current grey market prices! We could be in a hyper-bubble, and it could burst big time. (I would still buy from an AD at retail though.)
Based on the prices of used automobiles right now, I wouldn’t bet on the Rolex bubble popping anytime soon.
Hugo is so funny. A great character
I came across that Richard Mille thing only weeks ago when my cousin´s foster son (who is now 20) mentioned the brand. He is very much into top brands in every category, the more pretentious the better. Right now he wears a nice vintage Tissot PR516 that was handed down to him by my late uncle who was a big watch enthusiast (and from whom I have my Junkers and my Poljot Flieger Chronograph).
Maybe he´ll find his style without going after Richard Mille hommages by the likes of Invicta. 😉
wow, I thought RM was bad enough but to even envisage the possibility of an Invicta hommage of a RM... what a scary thought straight out of hell... 'The horror, the horror'
Watches like the Richard Mille look like something I'd appreciate more if it were a table, desk, or mantle clock, large enough to appreciate the mechanical artistry. I've seen several watches I would appreciate more if they were a personal desk clock. I think of several designs of the JLC Atmos clock that are lovely to sit and contemplate the design and engineering of the piece.
@@balesjo Yes, maybe it´s a bit narrow-minded, but I share the feeling that a wristwatch is concept limited to certrain criteria that are offset by adding "stuff" like braces, windows, mesh and more.
Just don't get RM watches. The dials just make me dizzy!
A lot of wisdom in this video. Very refreshing. I prefer going to my local smith/dealer. Family owned for generations too.
I'm going to buy a black bay 58 over the weekend. Been undecided for months but going away for the weekend so going to treat myself....cant wait!
I just bought a black bay 41mm with blue dial. LOVE it. Absolutely love it. So much so I've been neglecting my other watches. Great choice.
Looked at te 36, 41 and the bb58 blue. Ended up with the 58 blue. I knew I would so was pointless trying the others on. Stunning watch for the money.
In love with your Cartier, I think it’s the most beautiful example I’ve seen and the fact that it’s a quartz actually adds to its appeal, I can’t imagine that Cartier watches are that cheap to service!
Thank you so much, I am so glad you think so! I will be doing another video next months to share my first 2 months of ownership. I will deffo bring up your points.
Best regards,
TGV
I am thinking Quartz will have a revival.......look at the prices of them e.g Omega SMP300 Bond's etc
I recently went into a Rolex store in Germany with a friend of mine because he wanted to buy a Date-Just, which he didn’t get because they didn’t have any to sell. The guy working in the store wore an Emporio Armani watch! We both couldn’t believe it! I mean, he’s just an employee, so I didn’t expect him to wear a Rolex, but for the money he paid for that totally hideous and oversized Armani he could’ve gotten a nice Seiko instead! If this was my shop I wouldn’t allow him to wear that watch!
WOW, that is crazy. Thank you for sharing that Paco.
Best regards,
TGV
‘Just an employee’
@@trustnoone9921 by just an employee I meant he’s not the boss and therefore not the one who makes the big bucks by selling luxury watches. Instead he’s on a salary and therefore most likely won’t be able to buy a Rolex, therefore I didn’t expect him to wear one.
@@theurbangentry you’re welcome!
Maybe he really likes it.
Terrific as always. Did you switch to 30 fps?
It's not necessarily a type of watch but I would suggest not settling on a watch. If you want a Rolex Sub, don't buy a Black Bay or Seamaster since it won't, more than likely, scratch that itch. Save up for the watch you genuinely want and stay on the hunt!
Great point, the "settling watch" we could call it perhaps.
Deffo one for further discussion. Thank you fratello! 🥂😎
Best regards,
TGV
It’s a good way to end up with a watch collection.😁
@@theurbangentry that's a topic that could be discussed for hours! 😁
@@bigc208 I'm working on a video for this very thing. I'm working on consolidating my collection because I spread myself too thin.
I only own a Casio ca-53w, and I don't plan on buying another until this one kicks the bucket. However, I really enjoy listening to you talk about watches. You have a good channel going here. Thanks
I have to disagree about the second hand reputable watch dealers, as many of them have ridiculous prices, for example I have seen many second hand watches that are not in pristine condition, sold by them at the same price of a new watch (same model) sold by a Grey Market dealer. Paying used at the same price as new, that doesn't make any sense, at least not to me.
I have bought from many watches from Grey Market dealers and it's not true at all, that their support is bad, it depends on each shop some are good and some are bad, so sorry but I'm not buying those "avoid" things. Also, now some Grey Market dealers are official AD of some brands, so things are changing fast.
Who is a grey dealer that is an AD also? Can’t think of one. Thanks
@@mjdm1925 for example recently Ashford was a Glycine and Hamilton AD, but not anymore. Another example is Purchasedirect with Edox and so on.
I found it quite interesting and refreshing having taken a break from social media for months toward the end of last year. I was quite content with my collection and enjoyed my watches more.
Great content, TGV. I've made one or two impulse buys, but none at a high price. The way to deal with such a watch is to wear it in your "rotation" until it grows on you or doesn't, then if the latter consider what to do with it. Chances are the reason you bought it in the first place will re-assert itself as you wear it. If one buys a $450 watch on the grey market for $300 or a $300 watch for $170, the risk is quite low and the value is quite high. As far as keeping up, I just think of every social media "influencer" as an actor on a stage whose real characteristics I cannot know. What to do with a fake watches is easy: report the seller to the proper authorities. The one fake (a really bad fake) I've knowingly encountered came to me as a gift from a friend who acquired it in the same way and who knew it was a fake. It will always remain in my private collection -- and never worn in public -- as a reminder to me that this hobby can have its nefarious side.
My biggest blunder (if you want to call it that) is that it has taken a while to find the size range that looks best on my small wrist, which is 36-39mm. Also, I really don't like Roman Numerals on my watches (only had one and recently sold it). I have one beautiful Hamilton that I like the design, but just can't get myself to wear it as it's a 40-41mm and lit looks huge on my wrist. I'm finally to the point that no matter how I love it, if I can't find it within my size range, I pass on it.
That intro!😍 Pure pure class TGV, chapeau👏👏
I don't always love the intros, but this one was particularly great 👍🏻
Wonderful video! I have a minimum of a 6 months' wait before purchasing any watch. If my eye wanders within this time period, I know it's not the one for me.
Thank you TGV, always a pleasure to support your work!
The part about people online in exotic places is spot on. Too many people associate a watch with a lifestyle and it's not going to happen like that. You don't buy a time piece and then become James Bond.
So far I love the 11 watches I’ve purchased the last couple of years. Some have been limited editions (Zelos, Ball, GP) but have not and never will pay gray market price gouging. Wearing a Formex titanium Field now. So light it is almost invisible. The latest is a Seiko SPB 121J1 with a Watchcode 2-tone Jubilee bracelet. Very jazzy. I don’t mind the cyclops as these 74 year old eyes appreciate how much easier it is to read the date. Just me.
The advice about waiting before buying a watch to make sure it's not a passing interest has been so true for me. Looking at all the watches I have sold/don't wear very often, I bought beause they were bargains or very quickly convinced myself I wanted. Conversely, the more expensive ones I wear frequently and have no intention of selling I spent a good while looking at, the Ball Pioneer I have was over 12 months waiting for a good price.
In terms of fake watches, liars, criminals etc - what you see/they admit to is ALWAYS the tip of the iceberg. The type that knowingly buys fake anything is probably the type that does a number of other things and the same goes for the people who make or handle them. It would be no surprise that these people are involved in other crime.
Great information and I really appreciate the visuals that you include... they look top quality, well done.
I haven’t purchased a watch in over two years (I know, I know, what’s wrong with me?!). Your honest reviews and sound advice has kept my wallet happy for not impulse buying every new piece of eye candy that comes out. I’m saving up to purchase two of on Grails. Staying focused. Thanks TGV!
I have had amazing gray market experience, but shameful - to the point of personal embarrassment - experience with used watch dealers. It’s with experience (often at ridiculous expense) that we learn the watch game.
Im with you on the Richard Mille. Not to my taste at all. My impulse watch buy this week was the Rubik’s cube G Shock but who doesnt love a G Shock? Smart watch I sold on as it was no longer getting worn since buying my Seamaster and dont get me started on fakes.
the first point is so true. I wanted a Rolex Sub Steel because I love my husband's one. I liked the two tone/black from pictures but thought it wasn't for me. Well, when I was able to try on the two tone my heart skipped a beat. Literally. It's very different from pictures. You can't feel anything from pics.
I like so much in you your love about ancient classic writers and philosophers. They are timeless as a real watch must be.
TGV, ever the gentleman.....👏👏👏Keep up the good work, my friend. Cheers
TGV, your long sleeve polo game is always on point. Mind telling me where you get them?
The moment whene TGV starts talking in italian, LMFAO 'Con legno? Ma che sei pazzo?' that was brilliant, indeed!
I have a swatch Skeleton watch that I have had for 30 years now. The watch still has that class, and seeing the automatic movement from the front of the watch is awesome.
How many times serviced?
Fantastic video, TGV! Thanks for sharing your own experiences honestly. Your advice is spot on. I buy watches that I love from brands and people that I trust, and I`ve never been burned nor bought something I later wanted to part with - thanks to good advice from folks like you. Full disclosure: I too own a Flighty, a present from my husband. A true fave...both the watch and the husband. Cheers!
I'm with you 100%. Here's a question: what do you think of smart watch bands? I've seen ones that are leather but have an nfc to make payments, or that are bracelets with activity trackers in them.
I buy watches that attract my eye. My latest purchase was a Pulsar quartz solar field watch. I first saw it on a online jeweler's catalog. I went to check it out. It had a beautiful deep blue dial, Large lime green Arabic numerals 1 -12 around the dial with smaller 13 -24 next to the the larger numbers . The two colors complement each other. The only complication is a date window. The Nato strap is a deep blue, and very comfortable to wear on the wrist. You buy watches that you like, and not what others tell you what to buy.
Dream come true!!! Your passion and appreciation shows!!!
What do you or anyone think of the Wempe Iron walker blue dial.. seems solid and I’m getting it from the NYC location.. tried it on a few weeks ago.. can’t get it out of my mind so I’m getting it… and I’m a steel worker so it seems on point for me…!!!
Ooh...I see a blue carbon Squale on that winder. I'm seriously in love with that watch and the red. Great video as always Fratello!
Haha, that is actually the one you wore 😂😂🙏 You should go for it, it suits you. You know you want to. So glad to see you in the comments btw, I was watching your Alpha Papa commentary today (for the 3rd time, should I admit that?!?) while editing. One of the best ones IMO. I hope the family is all well.
Sending a grande abbraccio, stay well fratello! 😎🥂
T.
Thx TGV !!! I bought a giant G-shock Mudmaster GWG-2000 and was afraid of what others thought, but I love it and it makes me smile everyday I wear it ! It is my standout fun, weird looking watch!
These videos are awesome, it would be really helpful if you did chapters on these like some of the other watch you tubers, it makes it easier to dart round the points and re watch specific parts that resonate with the viewer :)
'Ok, hi guys, and welcome to the show!'.
I always say that intro when I'm about to watch your videos haha I feel like I'm having a very good chat with a friend everytime I watch your videos!
Thanks, TGV, really love your videos!
Best regards.
Great review! I purchased my BB58 5 months ago after waiting 2 years . I first saw it on leather, but I wanted steel. I knew I had to have it but I can only get it on leather and I didn’t want to settle based on the hype. 2 years later my AD had one on steel and I bought it. It’s one of my favorites and I’m very comfortable knowing it wasn’t an impulse lust buy, but rather, true love.
First time seeing your content. Pretty cool. I was also thinking "This guy should have grown in an Italian family" until the confirmation at 8:26 😁.
I have a single Rolex GMT Master Batgirl that I bought at MSRP and have worn it maybe 10 times. Not because I am afraid of scratching it or getting robbed but I just don’t enjoy watches anymore. Honestly I thought I would like it more than I do, but now it just collects dust. I wear my apple watch every day though and it has far more utility and function.
Great watch tips and even better life lessons! Keep it Gentry!
Another amazing video, TGV! You should do a video comparing your most affordable watch against your most expensive one.
Now that is a really cool idea. I will note that down.
Thank you my friend.
Best regards,
TGV
Love your work mate. You really care. Good work feller
Hello TGV ive been watching you for years now, awesome work sir. I see some other RUclipsrs are catching you in subscribers..specifically Teddy.. How did he get so many? Are you slowing down some?
Love the 2 camera angles and the implementation of stock videos. Keep up the great work, TGV!