@@cecilianovais212 No... usually I try to find it out on those "Floor Music" channels like this one.... ruclips.net/video/Jb3mAigPo2U/видео.html Stephan knows best.... but this time there is nothing written about the composer or such.... 😞😔😥
I was 5 when Nadia scored the perfect 10's in 1976, so I never really knew her, when I came into contact with women elite gymnastics in 1985 (watching my first major competition on TV). Daniela Silivas stands on her own I would say. Her difficulty and her popularity speaks for itself. 😎
Sie war noch so jung damals... in dem Jahr gewann sie ja die Turn WM am Schwebebalken und soll erst 13 Jahre als gewesen sein. Ein Skandal, der viele Jahre später aber erst ans Tageslicht geraten sollte. Aber man hat ihr bei der Übung angesehen, dass ihr das Turnen Spaß gemacht hat.
I can only imagine, how tough the training in Deva was. Still she was smiling and seemed to enjoy her routine and the interaction with the audience. It didn't seemed staged. This reminds me so much of Oksana Omelianchik and her performance in the Floor Final at the Europeans back in 1985. She was also smiling throughout her routine and made the judges smile, who were watching her....
@@Boban1611 Yeah Deva must have been very hard, especially considering that the gymnasts were only kids, but they also managed to have perhaps the most famous school in the world with top-level coaches and they got one champion after another... The pressure, especially in the communist era, from the government, was enormous and the methods were almost inhuman, but the results came... and only then did they achieve that a country as small as Romania was on the podium for almost 40 years consecutively with much larger countries like USSR, USA or China. It is an extraordinary merit
Doamne,ce minune de fetita ,Daniela Silivas! Superba ! Ce minuni de gimnaste am avut ? Sa trăiți fetelor! Multa faima ați mai adus României.Intradevar,ambasadorii! Felicitări!
No conocía la historia de ésta niña, pero ahora gracias a ustedes se de la grandeza de las gimnastas Rumanas. No sólo Nadia tenía esas características de belleza y elegancia. Las admiro mucho, y a pesar del tiempo nadie las va a superar, saludos desde Colombia
@Cristobal Bernabe - take a look at ruclips.net/video/NypJMiG1uIo/видео.html Enjoy the moment and experience the excitement of this epic battle between those two great gymnasts.... again.... again.... and again. 💚😄
Daniela Silivas, Aurelia Drobe,las mejores de la historia presición,belleza,carisma,y mucha disciplina ,hoy solo son quien da mas volteretas ellas hacían coreografias además de sus volteretas impresonantes
I was particularly impressed that she managed this routine on what does not appear to be a spring floor -- or if it was, certainly nothing like the trampolines they're using today! (I've never liked spring floors. They are too expensive for a lot of schools, and they feel like cheating. And the bouncier they get, the more it becomes impossible to compare the achievements of today's gymnasts with those of the past).
@@Boban1611 I will add that in a certain way spring floors ruin the purity of the event. Unlike other gymnastics events, which are tightly bound to their particular apparatus, in principle floor exercise has a certain universal simplicity, in that all it requires is a flat resilient surface, which could be wrestling mats (liked we used when I was a gymnast in high school) but could also be just well tended grass (like a football field or a golf course). In this regard it's like running or wrestling, which can be done by anyone anywhere (e.g., I've seen an African on RUclips showing off his standing double back flip in what looks like a rural setting), and unlike baseball or springboard diving, which require specific specialized equipment. But because of spring floors, floor exercise is now tied to its apparatus as tightly as any other event, and I think that's kind of a shame. This is likely to be a less popular opinion, but I also dislike the musical component of women's floor exercise for much the same reason. It's a deviation from all the other events (in particular men's floor exercise), it turns the event into dance as much as gymnastics, and it burdens the athlete, who in addition to choosing a sequence of physical skills must play choreographer as well and set the whole thing to music. Easy enough if you are an elite gymnast with an entourage who can take care of that for you, but not easy for everyone.
it's similar in ballet. we use sprung floors in studios to prevent injury, then all of a sudden we're on stages that aren't sprung and you *really* start to see who is using their technique to jump and who was using the floor.
I would say Daniela got her moves from Nadia. Nadia was already a seasoned competitor at this stage, but I'm sure Béla Károlyi had a lot to answer for when it comes to their similar moves.
1985 shows us what we missed at our Olympics to bad oleanik and shusanova had to be Russians . We punish olympians ( governments). Rather than kicking out people who are from these powers . We make it to easy on spies .and businessmen.what a shame 1980 and 1984 Olympics stink of our governments . Russian now in the Ukraine yet Americans still getting their fill in Russia .sad what money can do to certain people.
You really think? I don't know... I saw parts of the Olympic Games in 2021 and I think the physics of the women in that sport and in our days and age changed a lot...
Their commentary is terrible. Calling her routine awkward and lacking in style...and she gets a 10! Also calling a full in, back out a Tsukahara! Not very knowledgeable are they.
Well... what can I say.... a double back with a full twist was called a 'Tsukahara' back then - at least in Germany. It didn't matter when the twist was executed. I've checked it on Wikipedia right now and even there , they still use the same term for that skill. They even mention a 'Triple Tsukahara' - a double back with a triple twist, shown first by Fedorchenko from KAZ.... de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukahara Complaining about her style, or her choreography was of course from a subjective point of view I guess. There were lots of critics in the mid 80's about this subject from every german journalist in almost every competition. In my point of view, the romanian girls didn't have good choreographers. There are only a few routines I've really enjoyed and those were for example Ecaterina Szabo from 1985 (both Europeans and Worlds) or Daniela Silivas from 1987 (her best choreography in my eyes) and of course from 1988 and the unforgettable Aurelia Dobre in 1987 but most of all her routine in 1988 or Simona Amanar in 1996.... I probably liked even more, but forgot surely one or the other.... But in the end I think we all can agree, we love the sport and enjoy the routines of our most favorite gymnasts and all the others, devoted to this sport. It brings joy to my heart, if people gather around friendly, admiring the unique individual performances of those men and women in Artistic Gymnastics from the last decades in the last century. Wow... that sounds so long ago. That's crazy. 💖
Well... Daniela was quite young in 1985.... and probably peaked in 1988, when she won 3 Gold Medals at Seoul and became the most decorated Gymnast of the Olympic Games with 6 Medals overall. 😀😋😎
She actually was.... she admitted in 2002, that her birth date was set back (from 1972 to 1970) to make her eligible for the 1985 Worlds in Montreal (Canada)
Well... actually I think she really enjoyed herself during this routine.... full of difficult skills. It is different from today.... today gymnasts enter the podium and start grinning, like maniacs and even if they make a mistake, their faces are still frozen masks - as if the devastating fall was still the best try she ever had with that acrobatic skill, and they hope the judges will honor that... it is simply a trained emotion, while Daniela smiled because she had fun during that competition.
@@Boban1611 SHE DID but she was kinda laughing before she started and then right before the last pass, I was like um, weird face and then when she wiggled in front of the judges
So cute!
The most charismatic gymnast ever, in my opinion
I've watched different interviews with her on RUclips and she seems to be such a nice person.
@@Boban1611 do you know the musics played in this routine? It's Jambalaya and what else?
@@cecilianovais212 No... usually I try to find it out on those "Floor Music" channels like this one....
ruclips.net/video/Jb3mAigPo2U/видео.html
Stephan knows best.... but this time there is nothing written about the composer or such.... 😞😔😥
@@cecilianovais212 One of the songs that is sampled is "Wildwood Flower" by the Carter Family.
@@cecilianovais212 I think it's a part of "I Can't Stop Loving You" (which Ray Charles sang) that is played between 0:50 and 1:05.
This makes me smile.
Astonishing!!! This routine seems so uptodate....I cant believe it.
bc its ROMANIA.
She would be super competitive even today!
Omg, amazing, elegant, one of my favorite gymnast. 😊😊😊💕💕
She seemed so happy and relaxed back then.... and she was already a World Champion (Balance Beam) in 1985 😏
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 bellísima. Me recordó a Nadia, por supuesto ⚘
I was 5 when Nadia scored the perfect 10's in 1976, so I never really knew her, when I came into contact with women elite gymnastics in 1985 (watching my first major competition on TV). Daniela Silivas stands on her own I would say. Her difficulty and her popularity speaks for itself. 😎
A mí a Dominique moceanu
Lindos movimientos 🎉🎉
Daniela Silivas una de las grandes gimnastas.
Das waren noch Leistungen im Turnen, sie rissen einfach mit und begeisterten . Sie war so erfrischend zu dieser Zeit
Sie war noch so jung damals... in dem Jahr gewann sie ja die Turn WM am Schwebebalken und soll erst 13 Jahre als gewesen sein. Ein Skandal, der viele Jahre später aber erst ans Tageslicht geraten sollte. Aber man hat ihr bei der Übung angesehen, dass ihr das Turnen Spaß gemacht hat.
Just 13 years.
Always so cute, so friendly...the crowd fell in love with her every Championship.
I can only imagine, how tough the training in Deva was. Still she was smiling and seemed to enjoy her routine and the interaction with the audience.
It didn't seemed staged. This reminds me so much of Oksana Omelianchik and her performance in the Floor Final at the Europeans back in 1985. She was also smiling throughout her routine and made the judges smile, who were watching her....
@@Boban1611
Yeah
Deva must have been very hard, especially considering that the gymnasts were only kids, but they also managed to have perhaps the most famous school in the world with top-level coaches and they got one champion after another...
The pressure, especially in the communist era, from the government, was enormous and the methods were almost inhuman, but the results came... and only then did they achieve that a country as small as Romania was on the podium for almost 40 years consecutively with much larger countries like USSR, USA or China.
It is an extraordinary merit
Great gymnastic this Girl congratulations. 🍀
Brava Daniela
Super Daniela, lei ė bravissima gia da piccola, complimenti❤️
Her giggling at the beginning is _everything_
That was so cute. She really enjoyed the competition. 😀
Nice job, Daniela, Bravissima!
Unique!
Almost flirting with the camera.... she had so much fun.
We need gimnast like this girl! ❤️
@@sacotafiruta2348 Can there be another Daniela Silivas? She was unique! 😍😏
Great technique! She’s so controlled.
SO CUTE AND SPUNKY AS WELL AS STRONG😁🥇🏆
she always seemed so light on her feet
The Romanian print! So cute!
Doamne,ce minune de fetita ,Daniela Silivas! Superba ! Ce minuni de gimnaste am avut ? Sa trăiți fetelor! Multa faima ați mai adus României.Intradevar,ambasadorii! Felicitări!
Great smile & routine!
Brava!❤️😘
No conocía la historia de ésta niña, pero ahora gracias a ustedes se de la grandeza de las gimnastas Rumanas. No sólo Nadia tenía esas características de belleza y elegancia. Las admiro mucho, y a pesar del tiempo nadie las va a superar, saludos desde Colombia
Lovely comment. Greetings to Colombia.
Watch Aurelia Dobre.
La mejor gimnasta de Rumania. como no revivir el gran duelo de todos los tiempos de seul 88 Silivas . Sashunova.
@Cristobal Bernabe - take a look at
ruclips.net/video/NypJMiG1uIo/видео.html
Enjoy the moment and experience the excitement of this epic battle between those two great gymnasts.... again.... again.... and again.
💚😄
Agréable et formidable.
Com essa idade e já é excelente 🙂
Daniela Silivas, Aurelia Drobe,las mejores de la historia presición,belleza,carisma,y mucha disciplina ,hoy solo son quien da mas volteretas ellas hacían coreografias además de sus volteretas impresonantes
mira esto de Aurelia Dobre 😊
ruclips.net/video/TVJB_c0fOfs/видео.html
I do not remember this routine, but she did great! Nice job!
It was such a cute performance. I love it.
Браво ❤❤❤
I was particularly impressed that she managed this routine on what does not appear to be a spring floor -- or if it was, certainly nothing like the trampolines they're using today! (I've never liked spring floors. They are too expensive for a lot of schools, and they feel like cheating. And the bouncier they get, the more it becomes impossible to compare the achievements of today's gymnasts with those of the past).
You speak right out of my heart. 😀😄😏
@@Boban1611 I will add that in a certain way spring floors ruin the purity of the event. Unlike other gymnastics events, which are tightly bound to their particular apparatus, in principle floor exercise has a certain universal simplicity, in that all it requires is a flat resilient surface, which could be wrestling mats (liked we used when I was a gymnast in high school) but could also be just well tended grass (like a football field or a golf course). In this regard it's like running or wrestling, which can be done by anyone anywhere (e.g., I've seen an African on RUclips showing off his standing double back flip in what looks like a rural setting), and unlike baseball or springboard diving, which require specific specialized equipment. But because of spring floors, floor exercise is now tied to its apparatus as tightly as any other event, and I think that's kind of a shame.
This is likely to be a less popular opinion, but I also dislike the musical component of women's floor exercise for much the same reason. It's a deviation from all the other events (in particular men's floor exercise), it turns the event into dance as much as gymnastics, and it burdens the athlete, who in addition to choosing a sequence of physical skills must play choreographer as well and set the whole thing to music. Easy enough if you are an elite gymnast with an entourage who can take care of that for you, but not easy for everyone.
The springs likely prevent injury.
it's similar in ballet. we use sprung floors in studios to prevent injury, then all of a sudden we're on stages that aren't sprung and you *really* start to see who is using their technique to jump and who was using the floor.
Tan linda ella de verdad ame esa musica debio ella obtener el oro por buena musica lindos movimientos estos se fijan kien es mas fuerte 😢
It's great music, really fun. And of course the irony of a romanian gymnast doing her floor routine to American country music is pretty fantastic.
She was so cute!
...looks a lot like this is where Dominic Moceanu got her spunky dance moves...they look very similar really...🥰
I would say Daniela got her moves from Nadia. Nadia was already a seasoned competitor at this stage, but I'm sure Béla Károlyi had a lot to answer for when it comes to their similar moves.
Domi's parents were both Romanians, I do see a resemblance too ❤
♡♡♡♡
Definitely better hair than a few years later 😜
My brother and I were shocked in 1988, when she entered the Olympic stage with her new hairdo 😱😏
omg 😂😂😂
CUTIE PATOOTIE!!
mary lous rival. 🌏🌏
シリバス・サボーetc. この時代のレオタード可愛い💃
15 Jahre. Nein. 12 - 13 Jahre. She never told the truth about her age.
Da hast Du absolut recht. Sie war erst 13 Jahre (1985) - das kam allerdings schon ans Licht.... laut WiKi bereits 2002.
1985 shows us what we missed at our Olympics to bad oleanik and shusanova had to be Russians . We punish olympians ( governments). Rather than kicking out people who are from these powers . We make it to easy on spies .and businessmen.what a shame 1980 and 1984 Olympics stink of our governments . Russian now in the Ukraine yet Americans still getting their fill in Russia .sad what money can do to certain people.
Hear hear!
Золотая девочка...Румынская пластика ! И школа
One of the most decorated romanian girls of all times.....
Ela lembra uma ginasta americana da atualidade
You really think? I don't know... I saw parts of the Olympic Games in 2021 and I think the physics of the women in that sport and in our days and age changed a lot...
@@Boban1611 in recent days gymnasts age older than before , previously like children
Quem? Ela deve ser Júnior! Não consigo pensar em ninguém parecida com Silivaş.
I like the part when she looks cute
She enjoyed that Floor routine. This was clearly evident... 😄
Their commentary is terrible. Calling her routine awkward and lacking in style...and she gets a 10! Also calling a full in, back out a Tsukahara! Not very knowledgeable are they.
Well... what can I say.... a double back with a full twist was called a 'Tsukahara' back then - at least in Germany.
It didn't matter when the twist was executed.
I've checked it on Wikipedia right now and even there , they still use the same term for that skill.
They even mention a 'Triple Tsukahara' - a double back with a triple twist, shown first by Fedorchenko from KAZ....
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukahara
Complaining about her style, or her choreography was of course from a subjective point of view I guess.
There were lots of critics in the mid 80's about this subject from every german journalist in almost every competition.
In my point of view, the romanian girls didn't have good choreographers. There are only a few routines I've really enjoyed and
those were for example Ecaterina Szabo from 1985 (both Europeans and Worlds) or Daniela Silivas from 1987 (her best
choreography in my eyes) and of course from 1988 and the unforgettable Aurelia Dobre in 1987 but most of all her routine
in 1988 or Simona Amanar in 1996.... I probably liked even more, but forgot surely one or the other....
But in the end I think we all can agree, we love the sport and enjoy the routines of our most favorite gymnasts and all the others,
devoted to this sport. It brings joy to my heart, if people gather around friendly, admiring the unique individual performances of
those men and women in Artistic Gymnastics from the last decades in the last century.
Wow... that sounds so long ago. That's crazy. 💖
full-in back out was call Tsukahara back then since the twist is similar to what they do in the vault.
この頃と比べると、ソウルは凄い伸びよう
Well... Daniela was quite young in 1985.... and probably peaked in 1988, when she won 3 Gold Medals at Seoul and became the most decorated Gymnast of the Olympic Games with 6 Medals overall. 😀😋😎
Ahí si esta bonita pero como envejecemos nos ponemos feos y así es la verdad si
.... but some of us age gracefully. 💚
15? No she is 13!😂
She actually was.... she admitted in 2002, that her birth date was set back (from 1972 to 1970) to make her eligible for the 1985 Worlds in Montreal (Canada)
I know that myself!😂
VERY ODD FACIAL EXPRESSIONS DURING THIS ROUTINE
Well... actually I think she really enjoyed herself during this routine.... full of difficult skills. It is different from today.... today gymnasts enter the podium and start grinning, like maniacs and even if they make a mistake, their faces are still frozen masks - as if the devastating fall was still the best try she ever had with that acrobatic skill, and they hope the judges will honor that... it is simply a trained emotion, while Daniela smiled because she had fun during that competition.
@@Boban1611 SHE DID but she was kinda laughing before she started and then right before the last pass, I was like um, weird face and then when she wiggled in front of the judges
@@metsdudenj The german commentator said something similar, exactly before she started her last pass... now I know what you meant. :)
@@Boban1611 See? He agreed with me
Honestly the coreography was a bit weird lol. She was really sweet, I think her expressions match the music and style of the routine