Of the gymnasts of that truly artistic gymnastics era, i rewatch and am most impressed by Olga Korbut and Daniela Silivas. Their charisma, naturalness and enjoyment,combined with power and precision ,for me, will forever trump any overpowered, thickly muscled somewhat graceless acrobatics which is today's style.
Așa ceva este un sol impresionant,nu solul făcut de americance,iar Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea ,au făcut solul foarte bun, față de americancele,care au avut exerciții de, fără grație, gingășia feminină eleganță, rafinament ritmicitate, făcute de fetele noastre de aur, Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea.🌹🌹🥀💐🌞🌞♥️♥️🥰💯💯🤗🇷🇴☮️🇹🇩🙏💓💝❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@SandaDavid-h9w I'm from New York and completely agree with you, the 2 US gymnasts Chiles and Biles completely lacked artistry and were overscored by the judges. Chiles coach enen said she was "sloppy" on her Gogean leap landing but they appealed because they had nothing to lose. Chiles with only 3 tumbling passes compared to 4 from the Romanians did not execute well that night and should not have gotten credit for her Gogean leap as it was underrotated and she "corksrewed" the beginning of the leap meaning she did the turn on the floor with her heel instead of in the air. There was only one judge for the appeal of this and i have been told she did not even look at the leap in slow motion but went by real time or memory ..i think giving Chiles credit for a gogean leap that she never got credit for and did not complete again at the Olympics is completely corrupt or incompetent or both.
Mulțumesc frumos pentru mesaj denisse, ești un om în adevăratul sens al cuvântului,nu doar o față umană, căci ești corectă, în privința gimnastelor americance,care au luat medaliile olimpice,meritate de Ana și Sabrina,dar da au fost și americance, care au fost bune gimnaste,pe când erau antrenate, de Marta și Bella Caroli.a@@denisewalsh6586
Nunca más hubieron gimnastas como estas de fines de los 80. Daniela además de ser una extraordinaria gimnasta, era una magnífica bailarina. Cada detalle, hasta el movimiento de las manos demuestran la.enseñanza de la danza clásica.
Such a beautiful technician and dancer. Dance ability light years ahead of most today, with poise, musicality and flair (and top drawer difficulty on all apparatus for her time as well). Her line, shown especially well on the bars, was one of the very best during the time she competed. A fabulous gymnast, who should be celebrated for her fantastic talent and all her achievements.
Nu ma satur,sa privesc,aceasta fetita cu codita cata voioșie și cata perfecțiune.....Daniela Silivas! Mare fenomen.Doamne! Câte gimnaste fenomen a dat tara noastră! Felicitări!❤ Super! Doamne ajuta ! Sa mai avem... Sunt : drăguțe,, zglobii pline de talent și viata..❤❤❤❤ Felicitari! fetelor.Mult noroc! În viețile voastre!❤
Nothing will beat the drama and show of the 1988 Olympics... The individual finals, omg. With sikuvas and shushaniva, one 10 after another...and the incredibly different styles of the two gymnasts couldn't be further apart, which made it more awesome
Totally agree. Best ever floor compulsory imo, Podkopayeva in 1996 second. Just unmatched. I firmly believe that she was the worthy winner of the floor event gold medal because of that compulsory routine. No one came close.
Também acho, me lembro dela quando eu era criança e fiquei encantada, ela tem uma aura delicada e pleno domínio das habilidades da ginástica artística. Não me canso de vê-la.
Exquisita! Espectacular! Una de mis gimnastas favoritas después de NADIA, y para mí la mejor de los 80! DANIELA conjuga elegancia, gracia, potencia, totalidad y amplitud en la ejecución del movimiento, y además es una excelente bailarina! Es de las pocas ejecutantes que logra conectarse con el auditorio por su gran carisma,y una de las grandes leyendas de la Escuela Rumana, con ese indiscutible sello de excelencia! GRACIAS SIEMPRE POR TU TALENTO Y APORTES DANIELA SILIVAS!👏👏👏❤️👑
Her 87 and 88 routines are still some of the best routines in gymnastics history. By 89 she said she'd lost some of her motivation, but she was still great!!
@@cecilianovais212 back then that was the average age to retire. Also revolution took place in Romania and everything was messy. Her head coaches left the country too.
Dance artistry, where gymnasts showed graceful moves in time with the music, and showed emotion, feeling - not there today. More emphasis on difficulty has meant routines are dominated wirh skills as opposed to the original intent of floor routines
@@sallydaniel1023 maybe they could introduce a 5th event - separate tumbling to have it separate, or create a second floor event where dance and artistry are more heavily favoured....
Yes yes yes. I find routines today without the soul of the past. Tourischeva's coach Rastorotsky said that choreography, dance and artistry was critical to the presentation of the routine, and difficulty in the gymnastic elements performed should work in harmony with the artistic presentation. He said that each gymnast had something unique to present to the judges, and that is her artistry - difficulty should supplement that. I feel that has been lost now - in order to do well, gymnasts must show difficulty that has not necessarily been mastered. The choppy choreography and 'hard' leaps/spins detract from the overall gymnastic experience, in my opinion.
@@sallydaniel1023 actually, better plan woudl be to bring back compulasries, even if its just for beam and floor. gymnasts could pic which event they want to add, only do one of them even.
@@yuiop6611 it is now, yes - you’re right, but my point was television commentators in ‘85 called it “two (passes) in one” or at least the versions I watched called it that
Ce valori?Monumentale! .....în gimnastica României.Felicitari!Super ! Bravo! Daniela Silivas.Ai strălucit ca un diamant! (Părea ca te joci......Dar,munca era pe masura)❤❤❤❤❤❤
Her tourines are fo exquisite and from such a young age! Lovely and superb gymnasts one in a generation, she has it all, accuracy, musicality, grace, flexibility and acro, and fun! all perfect❤
What can you say? She is grace and joy and perfection. Now the floor exercise is just boring long tumbles. I dont see joy in performing now. Thats a shame.
I often wondered why she didn’t try for Barcelona, she certainly had the chops still to challenge for a gold in many events. It certainly is true though that she’d been at it for a long while- especially in that era with far less padding and give to the apparatus. She still had an amazing career though!
The Table of Content Titles are somewhat out-of-sync with the actual routines. That being said, I personally prefer the 3rd routine, which looks to have been from the 87 Europeans in Moscow. I think that the combination of the tumbling, choreography/dance, execution, and music choice made it her best routine - and that is really saying something because ALL of her routines were GREAT!
Remember when amplitude was rewarded? My understanding is current GOP gives same points for doing crappy, but completed skill, as someone who does it masterfully with amplitude.
Rewards for difficulty only results in less artistry, and a ton of injuries for the athlete's. Have you ever seen so many shoulder injuries before in WAG!
I don't think she was ever trained by Belu, who had already defected to the US. Her head coach was Adrian Goreac who defected in the revolution and was taken over by Bellu.
When there were less rules to worry about, there was more artistry. Now gymnasts have to accumulate points rather than tell a story. It’s not any specific gymnast’s fault, rather the scoring system and what has evolved over time.
When you said signature move, I immediately thought of the the hoedown from her 85 routine 😭. I refer to her signature move by the name of its true inventor, the Pryakhina 🙏
13:38 So professional gymnastics is a lower level? The concept doesn't make sense. The best aren't pro. They only go pro when they're washed up? Very odd. What they talked about didn't materialize.
tricks generally weren't as difficult then as some of them are now when Daniela was competing the highest difficulty rating was D-E in some its up to I or J now
Really miss this kind of gymnastics. So sad that the code of points no longer reward such masterpieces.
The balletic quality in her moves is sublime. No one compares.
This is a strong, fun routine, performed beautifully. Balletic, it is not.
2 European champion.
2 World champion.
1 Olympic champion.
The Queen floor in '80. No doubt.
Queen on beam too!
In team and event finals only. She only won one AA title: Euros 1987.
Of the gymnasts of that truly artistic gymnastics era, i rewatch and am most impressed by Olga Korbut and Daniela Silivas. Their charisma, naturalness and enjoyment,combined with power and precision ,for me, will forever trump any overpowered, thickly muscled somewhat graceless acrobatics which is today's style.
Through her gymnastics Daniela Silivas expressed the joy and innocence of childhood. She was happiness personified.
❤🎉
It was impossible not loving her.
It is impossible not to love her *
Așa ceva este un sol impresionant,nu solul făcut de americance,iar Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea ,au făcut solul foarte bun, față de americancele,care au avut exerciții de, fără grație, gingășia feminină eleganță, rafinament ritmicitate, făcute de fetele noastre de aur, Ana Maria Bărbosul și Sabrina Maneca Voinea.🌹🌹🥀💐🌞🌞♥️♥️🥰💯💯🤗🇷🇴☮️🇹🇩🙏💓💝❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@SandaDavid-h9w I'm from New York and completely agree with you, the 2 US gymnasts Chiles and Biles completely lacked artistry and were overscored by the judges. Chiles coach enen said she was "sloppy" on her Gogean leap landing but they appealed because they had nothing to lose. Chiles with only 3 tumbling passes compared to 4 from the Romanians did not execute well that night and should not have gotten credit for her Gogean leap as it was underrotated and she "corksrewed" the beginning of the leap meaning she did the turn on the floor with her heel instead of in the air. There was only one judge for the appeal of this and i have been told she did not even look at the leap in slow motion but went by real time or memory ..i think giving Chiles credit for a gogean leap that she never got credit for and did not complete again at the Olympics is completely corrupt or incompetent or both.
Mulțumesc frumos pentru mesaj denisse, ești un om în adevăratul sens al cuvântului,nu doar o față umană, căci ești corectă, în privința gimnastelor americance,care au luat medaliile olimpice,meritate de Ana și Sabrina,dar da au fost și americance, care au fost bune gimnaste,pe când erau antrenate, de Marta și Bella Caroli.a@@denisewalsh6586
Nu are importanță ce ești, american, român,francez ori orice altă naționalitate și etnie,ci este important să fii OM,💞💓🤗🥰🥰❤️❤️♥️♥️☺️☺️🇷🇴💯💯🇹🇩🤔😡👏👏🌹💝💝🇺🇸
Nunca más hubieron gimnastas como estas de fines de los 80. Daniela además de ser una extraordinaria gimnasta, era una magnífica bailarina. Cada detalle, hasta el movimiento de las manos demuestran la.enseñanza de la danza clásica.
Such a beautiful technician and dancer. Dance ability light years ahead of most today, with poise, musicality and flair (and top drawer difficulty on all apparatus for her time as well). Her line, shown especially well on the bars, was one of the very best during the time she competed. A fabulous gymnast, who should be celebrated for her fantastic talent and all her achievements.
She is in my opinion te best gymnast
Me too
she always had the most spectacular floors routines, funy, creative, artistic
Nu ma satur,sa privesc,aceasta fetita cu codita cata voioșie și cata perfecțiune.....Daniela Silivas! Mare fenomen.Doamne! Câte gimnaste fenomen a dat tara noastră! Felicitări!❤ Super! Doamne ajuta ! Sa mai avem... Sunt : drăguțe,, zglobii pline de talent și viata..❤❤❤❤ Felicitari! fetelor.Mult noroc! În viețile voastre!❤
Se muncea enorm și cu seriozitate!! Fără fițe
Her 1988 compulsory will forever be in my heart.❤
ABSOLUTE PERFECTION
Nothing will beat the drama and show of the 1988 Olympics... The individual finals, omg. With sikuvas and shushaniva, one 10 after another...and the incredibly different styles of the two gymnasts couldn't be further apart, which made it more awesome
Totally agree. Best ever floor compulsory imo, Podkopayeva in 1996 second. Just unmatched. I firmly believe that she was the worthy winner of the floor event gold medal because of that compulsory routine. No one came close.
Forever the gold standard!
anche per me!!!
She is the best to me. Grace, and power. Beautiful choreography as well! Fantastic!
Também acho, me lembro dela quando eu era criança e fiquei encantada, ela tem uma aura delicada e pleno domínio das habilidades da ginástica artística. Não me canso de vê-la.
She's a legend!
Her movements were/are always so crisp and beautiful...she's simply the best!
Favorite gymnast. I miss this type of gymnastics.
Exquisita! Espectacular! Una de mis gimnastas favoritas después de NADIA, y para mí la mejor de los 80! DANIELA conjuga elegancia, gracia, potencia, totalidad y amplitud en la ejecución del movimiento, y además es una excelente bailarina! Es de las pocas ejecutantes que logra conectarse con el auditorio por su gran carisma,y una de las grandes leyendas de la Escuela Rumana, con ese indiscutible sello de excelencia! GRACIAS SIEMPRE POR TU TALENTO Y APORTES DANIELA SILIVAS!👏👏👏❤️👑
Wonderful team of Romania..!!❤🎉
The twin spins at 4:22 - OMG. So perfect. She really was a dancer. So much fun to watch - thank you!!
Thank you for enjoying!!!
Her 87 and 88 routines are still some of the best routines in gymnastics history. By 89 she said she'd lost some of her motivation, but she was still great!!
You are totally correct. The best true floor worker ever. Modern gymnasts are wonderful acrobats.
Why did she retire so young?
@@cecilianovais212 Burnout and injuries
@@cecilianovais212 back then that was the average age to retire. Also revolution took place in Romania and everything was messy. Her head coaches left the country too.
I have been looking for her 1987 floor routine. I never forgot it. One of the best routines ever expressed. I found it tonight.
Daniela per me è numero uno!!!!mito assoluto, la adoro!
One of The most graceful gymnast ever. Light-footed Diva.
Dance artistry, where gymnasts showed graceful moves in time with the music, and showed emotion, feeling - not there today. More emphasis on difficulty has meant routines are dominated wirh skills as opposed to the original intent of floor routines
I agree! So much tumbling leaves little room for dance. It's made for boring gymnastics in my opinion 😴
@@sallydaniel1023 maybe they could introduce a 5th event - separate tumbling to have it separate, or create a second floor event where dance and artistry are more heavily favoured....
@@anovemberstar They already have power tumbling
Yes yes yes. I find routines today without the soul of the past. Tourischeva's coach Rastorotsky said that choreography, dance and artistry was critical to the presentation of the routine, and difficulty in the gymnastic elements performed should work in harmony with the artistic presentation. He said that each gymnast had something unique to present to the judges, and that is her artistry - difficulty should supplement that.
I feel that has been lost now - in order to do well, gymnasts must show difficulty that has not necessarily been mastered. The choppy choreography and 'hard' leaps/spins detract from the overall gymnastic experience, in my opinion.
@@sallydaniel1023 actually, better plan woudl be to bring back compulasries, even if its just for beam and floor. gymnasts could pic which event they want to add, only do one of them even.
GRATIE..TEHNICA..PUR BALET..GINGASIE SI COPILARIE MUNCITA..TE ADOR SI TE RESPECT DANIELA SILIVAS! "ZBURATOR" AL GIMNASTICII ROMANESTI!❤❤❤❤❤
The perfect 10! Daniela still loving you❤
You can see so much of Moceanu’s choreography from 96 in these 80s Romanian teams.
Isso que eu pensei. Me lembrou Moceanu
As romenas dão o nome na ginástica. Rainhas incomparáveis e Maravilhosas.
Absolute legend.
An absolute joy to watch
OMG, the third performance, my mouth hung open
Силиваш очень сильная гимнастка, очень артистичная, пластичная, миниатюрная.❤❤❤ Сейчас мускулистые акробатки. Силиваш 👍
I love Silivas.
Her form was IMPECCABLE!
One of the queens of floor imo.
Wow, ive never seen that second tumbling pass where she's in the blue leotard on the yellow mat in 1986 ..that was awesome!!!
They called it the “two-in-one” back in the day! Watch this! This is where it originated! Omeilianchik
ruclips.net/video/LHeZkFdUMPA/видео.html
@@worldartgym. And it’s colloquially known as “back-to-back” tumbling!
@@yuiop6611 it is now, yes - you’re right, but my point was television commentators in ‘85 called it “two (passes) in one” or at least the versions I watched called it that
There was such a profound difference in Daniela's elegance and difficulty between 1985 and 1986.
Same with 1986 and 1987.
This is REAL gymnastics not like the mechanical crap that they have today.
Daniela Silivas, excelente gimnasta Rumana, gran talento, disfruto muchísimo verla, genial.
The artistry is mesmerising! So elegant. I could watch all day 🧚
Superba!❤❤❤❤
La gacela Silivas!!! sus ejercicios de suelo eran pura fantasía! Mi favorita de siempre
She was amazing! She did big gymnastics!
the best gymnast ever
So graceful and fluid. A real joy to watch 😍
Ce valori?Monumentale! .....în gimnastica României.Felicitari!Super ! Bravo! Daniela Silivas.Ai strălucit ca un diamant! (Părea ca te joci......Dar,munca era pe masura)❤❤❤❤❤❤
Her tourines are fo exquisite and from such a young age!
Lovely and superb gymnasts one in a generation, she has it all, accuracy, musicality, grace, flexibility and acro, and fun! all perfect❤
Bravo Daniela🥰🥰
At 4:04 absolutely amazing!
My favorites are the 1987 World Championships and the 88 Olympics! She also looks amazing at the 1989 World Championships!
What can you say? She is grace and joy and perfection. Now the floor exercise is just boring long tumbles. I dont see joy in performing now. Thats a shame.
7:27- 7:40 reminds me of the song "don't you forget about me" specifically the part with the lyrics "la la la la la la la la la la la..."
シリバスが白ベースじゃないレオタード着てるのを初めて見たかも❤笑
91年に、こんな演技が披露されてたんですね〜アップありがとうございます！
89年の世界選手権でもすでに体型変化で身体が動きづらそうだったものなあ…
30年以上前から見てますが、これからもまだまだ見ます〜！😆
As romenas...sempre foram feras....
You can really see her improving and maturity in the dance through the years
Silivas daniela❤era o mare specialista❤profesionista❤în gimnastica😮😮😮super star❤😮😮😮
Într-adevăr Daniele silivas❤era prea mare gimnasta❤un geniu❤respect sint din romania❤
Not having that super power ability she preformed a double double on FX 1988 I will never forget that moment that was an apex of skill and desire
Maravilhosas❤
Her classic routine starts at 5:18. It's just beautiful.
The Romanians kicked ass in ‘87!
SILIVAS..SIMPLY THE BEST!!❤❤❤💯💯🔝🔝🤸♀️
Sensational, period!
Stupenda!!!!❤
Commentator Monica Phelps being Monica talking about how silivas struggling with her weight in ‘89….tho woman was a savage! 😂
Fetita Daniela silivas❤prea mare specialista❤era la gimnastica❤😮😮😮😮
❤🎉🎉
Даниэла! 😍
Tenia como antes belleza y talento
great
Ufff Romanians girls rule 💪💓💪
She was 12 in 1984
Love the routine in the blue leotard..much more interesting
yeeesss💝💝💝
1980s at Daniela silivas of rivalries soviet unions elena shushunova.
Que musica la segunda parece es esa que linda me encanta amo sus acrobacias lindas🎉🎉🎉
Cuál canción?
I often wondered why she didn’t try for Barcelona, she certainly had the chops still to challenge for a gold in many events. It certainly is true though that she’d been at it for a long while- especially in that era with far less padding and give to the apparatus. She still had an amazing career though!
The more I see the old gymnastics, the worse today's gymnastics looks
I saw none of this artistry at the 2024 Olympics from our US team, Biles and Chiles could learn from Daniela.
The Table of Content Titles are somewhat out-of-sync with the actual routines. That being said, I personally prefer the 3rd routine, which looks to have been from the 87 Europeans in Moscow. I think that the combination of the tumbling, choreography/dance, execution, and music choice made it her best routine - and that is really saying something because ALL of her routines were GREAT!
Mucho mejor que la comaneci...y por mucho.
1:36 - 1:45 😍❤
Remember when amplitude was rewarded? My understanding is current GOP gives same points for doing crappy, but completed skill, as someone who does it masterfully with amplitude.
She was 2 years old in the first dance
I would add her 1987 Dtb cup routine
Rewards for difficulty only results in less artistry, and a ton of injuries for the athlete's. Have you ever seen so many shoulder injuries before in WAG!
How old was she? Was she a day over 8?
Ahhhh yooooo
They skipped 1986 and 1988.
Bela and Marta are there as always behind one of the worlds greatest gymnast.
I don't think she was ever trained by Belu, who had already defected to the US. Her head coach was Adrian Goreac who defected in the revolution and was taken over by Bellu.
she is the most technical gymnast of all time
very impressive performance, I think today's gymnasts such as Simona Biles doesn't match with her.
When there were less rules to worry about, there was more artistry. Now gymnasts have to accumulate points rather than tell a story. It’s not any specific gymnast’s fault, rather the scoring system and what has evolved over time.
You would be right, Simone has far surpassed any of them. She is the most decorated gymnast(male or female).
@@jacobmiller2663 with doping ithen me can run maraton all medals of biles are with doping
@@jacobmiller2663😂😂😂😂most doped es most halped by judges
That's weird, she didn't do her signature move in any of these routines? Am I crazy?
She did it in the 88 Olympics at team finals, which is not included in this compilation.
@@soledadferrer1325 Thank you!
She only competed it once and it arguably cost her the gold in the Olympic all-around.
When you said signature move, I immediately thought of the the hoedown from her 85 routine 😭. I refer to her signature move by the name of its true inventor, the Pryakhina 🙏
Wheres 88 routine?
In several of my other videos… look around!
@@worldartgymlol we have to avoid the IOC at all costs 😭
@@thesovgc the wrath of the ioc is no joke
Where is silivas?
Beautyful ,better to Biles
13:38 So professional gymnastics is a lower level? The concept doesn't make sense. The best aren't pro. They only go pro when they're washed up? Very odd. What they talked about didn't materialize.
German commentator a little shady lol
Uh oh!!! What are they saying???
Like than the American commentators from the 80s and 90s.. Calling them fragile little girls - when they were 15, 16 years old.....?
@@worldartgym it's not too bad but he is like "the acrobatics are not the problem. the dancing however...well...a matter of taste"
@@lpoco0006 oh!... The story of my RUclips channel 😂
tricks generally weren't as difficult then as some of them are now when Daniela was competing the highest difficulty rating was D-E in some its up to I or J now
It is called artistic not acrobatic gimnastics
QUIEN DIGA,QUE NO FUE MEJOR QUE la comaneci.
CREO QUE NO SABE DE LO QUE ES LA GIMNASIA.
So are we skipping the Olympics because of the unfortunate perm? Lol
She looks twelve!
Kalah di tangan pesenam soviet.. elena shushunova.
She looks so tiny...
Нормально она выглядит. Она гимнастка, а не штангистка и не борец сумо))