The 2020 Volkswagen Cross Sport Is The Smaller Atlas. (Is That A Good Thing?)
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Volkswagen made advertising history in the 1960’s with the “Think Small” campaign. The Atlas three-row crossover is huge. Is the Atlas Cross Sport “just right”? It's smaller and only has two-rows but there’s enough space to park an original Beetle inside. Okay, maybe not, but there’s loads of room to pack up the family and head to the wilderness. Tom Voelk drives a 2.0T 4MOTION SE with Technology model. See how a 4-cylinder moves a big rig.
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About Tom: Tom Voelk is an award-winning automotive contributor to The New York Times. His podcast was the first to win an Emmy Award (and he's won for photography, editing, producing and reporting). But really, all you need to know is in the videos. Watch a few and you'll subscribe. 
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I state that the V6 is a 3.5-liter at 3:20. Wrong! That's a typo, it's a 3.6-liter. I'd fix it but YT makes that very difficult.
*Hugs* I totally understand. Gotta love red tape lol.
You’re the best, Tom!
Extra weight on your shoulders. Atlas in Greek Mythos was the titan who held the world on his shoulders. This is why I’m subscribed to you.
I always wonder if people get the more subtle things I put in...
@@DrivenCarReviews Yes, Tom, we do. Another reason why we keep coming back. :)
Keep up the great work. I enjoy your videos.
He’s so right. I bought in 2017 a Full Sized Impala. I love a big car and the ride and quietness. And quite frankly they were selling loaded models lower than Mid Sized Sedan and even the Civic was more expensive. My Point? No one in 3 years has ever sit in the back seat expect when I clean the windows. And the front passenger seat maybe 3 times someone sat in it. The 18 cubic Ft. Trunk space has all my cleaning supplies I never Ever use. except windex and paper towels. I did get the 2.5 four cyl with nearly 200HP which is very adequite and 23MPG almost all city driving. 8 traffic lights a day. And stop and go traffic most days.
Great review as always man. The Atlas looks nice
My wife and I bought the Atlas Cross Sport about 6 weeks ago in this same Tourmaline blue, and WE LOVE IT !!! We got the 3.6l VR-6 engine, SE trim level and technology package.
You (and your wife) put a lot of time into the driving footage. It shows and is much appreciated! 👍👍
Thanks. It takes a surprisingly long time to get it right if I'm cropping pedestrians, cyclists and other cars out. It often confuses people in the areas where we shoot. Sometimes they ask if we're lost.
Enjoy your reviews, especially in current situation. Thank You.
Like always great review by Mr Voelk. Thanks for mentioning weight of the vehicle.
The Teramont version in China is available with a 2.5T VR6 with 300 hp and 370 lb-ft. Would be a better upgrade than the 3.6.
wait thats sounds good, why not put in Western Models?
Great review, Tom. We have a 3-row Atlas but I love the sleeker look of this Cross Sport.
That's a Hungarian name.
You are right Tom, the Atlas is not sold in Germany or in any other EU member state as the Atlas does not comply with the Euro6 homologation needed for distrubution in Europe. The same reason the Skoda and SEAT brands are not sold in North America because they are built only to in complience to European standarts and not FMVSS/CMVSS so they can't be distributed in the USA or Canada.
@Trevor Lyons YES THANK YOU! You are awesome.
I absolutely enjoy the fun facts at the end of the videos.
No kidding!!
My friend’s wife has been driving minivans since college, even before they got married because:
“Her parents visit her (them) once a year” 😅
BTW they are young couple without kids
Great review. Even though it's just the SE, it looks good and it's probably the trim most people are going to get. Thanks!
Actually, I'm happy VW provided this model. I believe it's the sweet spot that most people will buy.
I love the solid feel of VW. I love your cargo test. Alex Autos use to do that. It was more fun than the roller bags he does now. I wonder where the hybrid is? Would love the Turbo and electric motor for off the line and slower city commutes. Would be perfect. Also improve mpg too. I hope you and your family stays safe Tom.
Thank you for all your reviews. You do an outstanding job with a sense of humor, much appreciated. I was wondering if you are planning on doing a review of the Audi Q8 soon- seems to have great deal of tech? In the meantime, please stay safe and be healthy, this too shall pass. Thank you! (culture aside: I lived in Minnesota for 16 yrs and still have my 1993 Miata I bought there, your mentions of both are always delightful).
I drove my Miata to Minnesota one year. Still remember that awesome trip.
I have been driving my 2017 Subaru Outback 2.5L Premium for 3 years and love it. Never had a CVT before. I really don't notice the CVT except for rare occasions. I am very satisfied with it and would buy it again but I should have included adaptive cruise control.
The Atlas/Atlas Sport are compelling vehicles. It is disappointing they don't have the 7 year warranty anymore.
Hahaha. Interesting view on the "daily basis need" of the Europeans, vs the "worst case scenario" of the Americans.
PS: I vote for evil twin to bring the trident to every video from now on. Who's with me?
Yes, I've talked to a few manufacturers and they all say that. And as far as the pitchfork, don't encourage that kind of behavior. He keeps threatening to wear those cheesy devil horns...
edmaluf - Probably why so many people drive pick up trucks in the U.S. because they need to get yard mulch every spring and the other 364 days a year they are just dragging around an empty cargo bed and using unnecessary fuel.
I'm with you all the way!
@@jdm1039 Yeah, you got a point there. I am particularly a huge fan of small cars. The original Mini, the original Fiat 500. Now in the 21st century I like the Microlino (a modern electric Isetta) and I really really hope Toyota will make the i-road. That´s all I need to commute and get my groceries.
So you're the one that took all the toilet paper!!!
Almost every review he does. Evil twin sells all the TP on the black market.
That was almost 3 years ago and he always makes the same test.
Acknowledgement (to your wife) and encouragements at end of the video are appreciated, thanks. Be smart, be safe. A previous generation said keep calm and carry on. Indeed. Pretty good VW, too!
The dancehall instrumental theme music in the background got to me 😂
Couldn't get the rights to Disco Inferno.
I hope your cold is better!
I see what you did there Tom!!! It's gonna be may 😂😂😂👍🚗💨💨💨💨 Great review as usual!! Stay safe out there!!
Will you be reviewing the 2021 chevy trailblazer when available
The school bus analogy is apt. We had a Tahoe when the kids were around, but now...do they make an AWD Jetta?
A friend bought the Atlas as he wanted large cargo space. His driver's assist lights came on like a Christmas tree in middle of night on a lonely highway 121 here in northern Texas. Probably why I shy away from VWs. You can't keep them beyond warranty and selling them would mean eating depreciation the size of Texas.
I do not like VW, but in this category I would go for RAV4, and if I want more space I will go for Highlander... Thanks for the vid Tom
Yes on both Toyota options. VW not a great choice.
I bet your wife can relate. This vehicle is so large, I can’t see ahead coz of my height.
We need more crossovers.
Ok your brother is awesome! I was going to originally comment on the awesome SkyNet comment and error 404: what is a CD? But I am wondering, why such a practice vehicle is not available in Europe??? I live not far from where these are made in the Great Smokey Mountains along the NC/TN border and have friends who work in the factory, hence my question.
Wish we had that much bath tissue in our Vermont Costco!
No third row to complicate the construction and pricing? Excellent. Who is even using those tiny third rows?
What do too think of no audio hold or heads up I know it’s a simple brand but much cheaper options have those features
"that's CarNet, not SkyNet...." 🤣 ".....and jonesing for npr..." 😂 k so i actually listen to the dialog, i like it that's why i'm a sub...
I like your videos.
Would have liked to get your take on seats, trim, sunroof, etc. of the V6 SEL Premium with R-line pkg.
Oh well, maybe next time...
I'm sure someone else has that video on RUclips. I tend to only do a car once.
It’s nice but Subaru Outback all day for price, performance, fuel economy and style for me. Great review! 👍🏼
Thanks Tom. Just give us a passat or Arteon wagon/Alltrack already VW. Either one of these will easily do the same as the cross-sport. Aftermarket should be strong for this and help you get more out of it.
Tell the wife we appreciate her doing the running footage.🙏🏾🖖🏽😌
I really like the styling and the utility - but I wish there was an engine option that actually had a bit of power.
There's a V6.
Great Job Tom! i'm not sure about the fake exhaust tips on this VW, they seem to do the same with audi even on the RS series, seems cheap to me, they should put real ones for that price!
In fact, those who pay up to $50K plus are likely to prefer not having their exhaust tips and rear ends (of their vehicles) all "sooty". I wouldn't defend the styling practice of replacing real with fake exhaust outlets but the trend of hiding actual exhaust outlets isn't a case of cost cutting; it's a response to market research.
The optional V6 is a 3.6 liter, not a 3.5 liter.
Those wheel arch cutouts should have mesh or curbing so you can tuck things in there. Missed opportunity IMO
It almost sounds like they use fake engine sound for the turbo to make it sound like the six cylinder. I find VW interiors have cut cost compared to say, the mid 2000s Passat. Very straight-cut design.
Thinking VW needs all new engines asap....none seem to fit the mission of their current group of bigger family offerings! Thanks Tom!
If only VW can throw the Q
5's phev power train in here, that would be a perfect car for me
I like this look wise more than the Pilot but the reliability in the Honda still wins me over. Plus the better AWD system.
The SE with Tech does NOT come with any sort of lane assist. That's almost inexcusable considering it's called the tech package...
Under $50k all in for a near premium mid- sized SUV is right in the ballpark with all the others. Step up to the $65k range and that opens up the better interior of the Audi, Mercedes and BMW (but they won’t be fully loaded at that price point).
Love you review Tom. I've lost all confidence in VW, would not park one in my driveway if it was given to me. My Jetta had serious transmission problems, electrical issues (all light s would just turn off randomly...a little hard on the head at night). After the first four years of ownership, the car was excessively expensive. No my favourite car company. With so many other choices that will be rock solid, this one dewan't deserve to be on that list.
If there's one thing VW has learned about American consumers it's that we like our vehicles larger (and typically less expensive) than our European counterparts. The American versions of the Passat, the Tiguan, the Jetta, and the Atlas all reflect that perspective. In fact, neither the current generation Jetta nor the Atlas is even sold in Europe. Now that VW has announced they won't be selling the base Golf in the US for the foreseeable future. the only VW's that come close to the specs of their European counterparts are the GTI, Golf R and Arteon.
It's no surprise then that when VW decided to follow the lead of other brands in having two midsize SUV's, they opted to design a LARGE two row vehicle. Other brands have two row SUV's that range from 188" to 192" in length. (e.g. Edge, Blazer, Outback, Murano, Santa Fe, etc.) The Cross Sport is larger both in terms of length and width. In fact, it's 0.5" longer than Toyota's three row Highlander and only 1.5" shorter than a KIA Telluride. The bottom line is that like the Atlas, the Cross Sport is a BIG vehicle for its category, 7.5" longer than the Ford Edge and Hyundai Santa Fe, for example. Whether that's a plus or a minus depends on one's priorities.
In terms of interior room, it's a definite plus. Although the Cross Sport gives up a lot compared to the Atlas in terms of cargo space partly as a result of its sportier sloping roof, (77.8 vs 96.8), the Cross Sport actually exceeds the Atlas' second row legroom by a significant amount (40.4" vs 37.6"). For 4 or 5 adults and their luggage and gear an extended road trip can be a comfortable environment.
On the other hand, some midsize crossover buyers may prefer a more compact vehicle, especially those with small families and who use their SUV's as daily drivers in suburban/urban traffic. Our family (two adults, a teenager, and a big dog) are among that group. For us, our KIA Sorento at 189" saves about 7.5" off the length of Cross Sport and means the difference between fitting and not fitting a bike rack to the rear hitch in our garage that adds about 18" to the entire length of the vehicle. We looked seriously at the Atlas when we shopped about a year ago and found it simply too damn big. At 195.5" long, the Cross Sport still fails that test for us.
Finally, I'd disagree somewhat with Tom's comment about needing a three row crossover only for bi-annual visits from relatives. We use the third row of our Sorento less than 10% of the time but it's very convenient to have when we chauffeur and gaggle of teenage girls or go to a local destination with another family and would otherwise have to take two vehicles. Furthermore, the third row of the Sorento is surprisingly roomy, especially considering its the vehicle's overall size. With 31.7" of legroom, it's has very slightly more space than the KIA Telluride (31.4") It sacrifices cargo space behind the third row to achieve that but for local trips it's surprisingly comfortable. All in all, the Sorento is a Goldilocks vehicle for us. A three row crossover the size of most two row competitors and a much tidier package than other 3 row SUV's.
I'll address the cargo space of your very thorough post Stephen because I failed to mention it in the piece- Yes there's less measured cargo space with a sloped roof line but I've found time and again that, in the real world, it doesn't make as much of a difference as one might think. That triangle of space just doesn't get used much. The TP trunk test has taught me that. Now if you're always brining home furniture found on the side of the road... that's another story.
@@DrivenCarReviews Point taken, Tom. In fact, the whole subject of cargo space is a complex one. First, I understand that SAE has recently revised its "rules" for calculating cargo space, changes that have reduced cargo space in some existing vehicles. But the "rules" are somewhat beside the point since a manufacturer doesn't have to follow them. A manufacturer is free to claim whatever figure they wish without penalty. In some cases I'm skeptical about a manufacturer's claim whatever measurement method they use. Honda maintains that the CR-V has up to 75.8 cubic ft of overall cargo space in a vehicle 182" long and the Passport offers 100.7 cubic ft in a vehicle that's 190" in total length. Each of those figures is class leading by a significant amount in vehicles whose overall size is average for its category. I'm guessing that each offers more cargo space than its competition but I'm doubtful about the specific measurements.
Second, as far as I know, there is no accepted rule for calculating the height of cargo packed into a vehicle. Safety considerations might argue that cargo should not be stacked from the floor to the ceiling of a vehicle but only to the base of the rear window. But we know that's not a realistic limit and I doubt many if any manufacturers take it into account when they publish their specs.
Third, the shape of a cargo compartment and the width/height of the rear opening is at least as critical as overall capacity. In response to one of my numerous rants about the absurdly tiny cargo capacity of the CX-9 given its overall size, a reader responded that he valued the length of his CX-9's overall cargo space despite its relatively small volume because he played hockey and it was the best vehicle he'd found for carrying his stick. I've never tested that claim but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I'd say the same about your famous Costco TP metric and Jakub and Yuri's storage box approach. C&D at one time filled vehicles with ping pong balls though I think they've abandoned that approach these days.
Bottom line. Given all these issues I just assume that manufacturers routinely come up with passenger and cargo volume specs that show them in their best light. Cubic feet at least has the advantage of being a standardized measurement even if the method of calculating cargo space varies and I usually ignore claimed differences of 10% or less.
Great Review. I like this better exterior wise than the regular Atlas. I am sure this will have some great discounts towards the end of the model year.
I see you’ve reviewed the Pallisade and Telluride. I know you don’t normally do direct comparisons but wonder how you’d rate the three of these (the Cross Sport, Pallisade, and Telluride)? Seems Hyundai/Kia is a better value with better interior quality, fit and finish, but would appreciate your opinion as you’ve spent time in each and I’ve not yet been able to.
I don't do comparison test videos because a large team of people is needed to do those properly. I'm one guy (with a wife currently driving for running footage). Personally? I understand why everyone loves the Telluride.
Your wife must be asking for the end of this virus crisis more than anyone, Tom! I'd like to drive the Atlas in Germany. Man, that would be fun!!!
She's okay with it since, if we drive out of Seattle to shoot, it means a trip to Dairy Queen. There are none of those in Seattle.
@@DrivenCarReviews That's a WIN-WIN DEAL! ;-)
Without normal diesel engine this Cross Sport make no sense in Europe.
Even now petrol is about $3.5 - 4 for galon over here.
Such a big car and such a small engine. I doubt on long run will be too much stress on that engine and prone to problems
@3:20 - believe it’s a 3.6L V6, not a 3.5L as stated here.
But hey, I’m being pedantic. Great review as always!
Yup, typo. Accuracy is never pedantic.
2:10 You could be abducted very nicely with this vehicle, Tom! Another great review. I think the full-sized Atlas looks a lot better. And the previous generation grille looked better, too.
Love your videos, still trying to understand why you drop "the" from many of your sentences though. 🤷🏾♀️
My wife has stopped trying to understand some of the things I do. Just saying...
Volkswagen cut so much of their budget on interior quality. It's all had hard plastic and cheap materials now. My Alltrack (and other Golf) is their last model that feels luxury.
Tom, They always say the world is getting smaller so perhaps a smaller Atlas actually makes sense. The Hybrid Highlander is the most rational CUV in this size range. It beats this VW by 10-12 mpg and it has a 3,500 lbs tow rating.
Just get a Telluride folks.
Enjoy your videos. immensely. Getting sick and tired of people lecturing me to be safe. That is all I hear constantly on TV, RUclips, etc. Stick to reviewing cars, not public service announcements. Thanks
Someone's getting cranky...
So you’re saying that if I want to hoard a ton of TP, I should buy an Atlas. Hey! Are you responsible for our TP shortage?!!
Guilty.
They don’t do auto hold or heads up
ugh, that shiny interior graining has a GM cheese to it.
I've observed similar cheap plastic in everyone's favorite Japanese vehicles too so it is not exclusive.
@@jdm1039 indeed!
Wow! This is my next car. I love it. It seems to eliminate the need for shopping Tiguan. Seems to have decent pep, more room, a bit more verve/handling, and just a bit more money. After researching reviews of the Tiguan, my takeaway -- reading between the lines -- is a resounding "meh". Amiright? Thanks Tom!
Noo go with Tiguan it's so much better looking
@@aayonce4 Tiguan looks great and the reviews I've read are just so-so, especially regarding driving dynamics. I'll test them both, at some point, when it's safe to do so. Do you have one? Do you like it? It's still on my list, along with Outback, CX5, and Cherokee (which my wife does not want but which intrigues me). Thanks for your reply.
Yep, Teramont, 'cause we have Tiguan and Touareg and it seems that VW decided that Atlas should start with letter T as well
Sort of similar to what Ford does... Excursion, Expedition, Explorer, Escape, Eco Sport. What else?
If it's a smaller version of the Atlas, then it should cost less than the Atlas, not more!
4300 lb car with a damn 4cylinder .... You can't make this shit up .... Love your reviews but you not gonna convince me that turbo 4 can do the job without being stressed ...
Of all these vehicles, only Grand Cherokee was designed to be two row and is rear wheel drive, and offers V8s. All to say, it is a different beast all together and superior.
39K and it couldn’t have came with better wheels than that ???🤨🤨
Shame we have to deal with the atlas instead of the much better new Tuareg.
We own a Venza and stylistically this is the closest vehicle I have seen the matches the style and space of the now defunct Toyota
Ah, the Venza. Always thought that would be more popular than it was.
@@DrivenCarReviews Your reviews are always excellent by the way Keep up the good work, we sure need it these days!
Tom, I won't buy another fossil burning vehicle. When will the BEV version of this vehicle show up in the US?
There are no plans for an Atlas EV as far as I know. Only the ID Buzz, a minivan.
ID.4, no? CA put the legal screws to VW and another BEV must show up in CA in 2020. Go, CA!
@@barryw9473 ID.4 is smaller than Cross Sport, about the size of Tiguan.
@@DrivenCarReviews Thank you. Perfect size for us.
why the exterior gotta be handsome and then the interior a let down :( looks cheap in there
what is with the fake exhaust
If it didn't have the VW logo on the grill, you'd have no idea who made it. Sadly, this vehicle has no soul.
No leather seats even on a 45K model. Yikes. Also, goodness gracious there is so much hard plastic across this cabin. Also no power passenger seats. Hard pass.
Just plain cheap, massive fake exhaust ports don't help.
God...that fake exhaust...whyyy
this car is bad it is not fair that europe get the best vw models like passat here is US vw cars are totally different and very bad quality but on europe ex. a passat has the quality of audi a6 and better
Not a pretty vehicle
I have a new R Line. Piece of crap. Rattling door panels, front end knocking AND seat belts in the rear that don't retract. Stay away from this shit box
Sooo ugly and way overpriced. Should start at 24k