Surface Pro X vs iPad Pro | Is it Even A Contest?

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @NoahHerman
    @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +595

    At 7:45 we have what you call an *editing error.* It’s somewhat of a rare occurrence... and is prevalent when the *editor* is up at 4am *editing* 😂🤪🥱

    • @reevanamin5865
      @reevanamin5865 5 лет назад +13

      Noah Herman great work tho

    • @rai_pranjal
      @rai_pranjal 5 лет назад +11

      You're trying your best, and we're proud! ❣️

    • @lawrencerichards5057
      @lawrencerichards5057 5 лет назад +7

      College life is so busy .

    • @crystalchaos462
      @crystalchaos462 5 лет назад +33

      honestly I thought you were making a joke about battery life here. I laughed pretty hard.

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +20

      I wish you were right lol

  • @iali00
    @iali00 5 лет назад +373

    Sad that a young college student understands the value of Microsoft Office for 99% of people. Not everyone is a RUclipsr or a creator. Great job and review.

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +60

      As a business student Microsoft is so central to what we do lol. Thanks for the comment!

    • @iali00
      @iali00 5 лет назад +29

      Noah Herman great job at the end of the video explaining the value proposition for the different users. Most you Tubers think every device is for creators or gamers but most people just work on their devices. Keep up the great work.

    • @terrym45
      @terrym45 5 лет назад +8

      Using Apples iWork is a pleasure and FREE. It is much easy to use for the average user. I have no problem opening "Office" files, editing them then saving them again as "Office" files which I only do if sharing.

    • @danielrios7031
      @danielrios7031 5 лет назад +11

      microsoft office works just fine on the ipad !

    • @LeeorVardi
      @LeeorVardi 5 лет назад +6

      Microsoft has a fully fledged version of Office on iOS, and its cross compatible with all of your files, and they can be opened and edited directly on the Cloud.
      I don’t know if this includes Access, but it definitely has really good versions of Word, Outlook, PowerPoint, Excel and OneNote

  • @joeytatulli1454
    @joeytatulli1454 5 лет назад +377

    “You’re not gonna want to use these devices for photography.”
    Apple: 3 camera iPad Pro

    • @robot2374
      @robot2374 5 лет назад

      Lmao

    • @HearMeLearn
      @HearMeLearn 4 года назад +3

      The iPad pro 3rd gen has the iPhone XS camera soooo.... It's really not that bad

    • @asdf-oh9ob
      @asdf-oh9ob 4 года назад +2

      Sinus Lebastian you mean xr

    • @rgdavetgt680
      @rgdavetgt680 4 года назад +1

      asdf Xs and Xr has the same camera it’s just the Xs has an extra telephoto camera

    • @HearMeLearn
      @HearMeLearn 4 года назад

      @@asdf-oh9ob xs and xr have the same wide angle camera, the xs just also has a telephoto camera, but 2x telephoto cameras on phones are almost useless, you can just crop a regular camera photo and it looks basically the same, sometimes better imo

  • @wassup8308
    @wassup8308 4 года назад +89

    FINALLY A REVIEW VIDEO THAT DOESN’T HAVE THAT ANNOYING DUBSTEP TECHNO MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND LMAOO

  • @TheJjcarl98
    @TheJjcarl98 5 лет назад +433

    I thought my ipad just died at 7:45

  • @subswithnovideos-kp3ou
    @subswithnovideos-kp3ou 5 лет назад +568

    The two devices in a nutshell
    iPad- A tablet that is capable to important tasks that is for the pc
    Surface- A touchscreen laptop

    • @andreaskaminski6443
      @andreaskaminski6443 5 лет назад +9

      You are funny :-)

    • @Soldiershak
      @Soldiershak 5 лет назад +38

      This is a perfect description it's actually sad, The very reason people want a surface is the same thing that holds it back from being a better tablet

    • @subswithnovideos-kp3ou
      @subswithnovideos-kp3ou 5 лет назад +43

      Emad Ahmed oh yeah, a touchscreen laptop, with a stylus, ok thanks

    • @subswithnovideos-kp3ou
      @subswithnovideos-kp3ou 5 лет назад +6

      Emad Ahmed po-tay-toe, po-ta-toe same thing

    • @khami.30
      @khami.30 5 лет назад +4

      This is far from a "laptop"

  • @RonnieTeeSmith
    @RonnieTeeSmith 5 лет назад +253

    Using an iPad in dental school for me has helped so much, being able to airdrop powerpoints to/from my classmates and keep the recordings with it via Notability is the one and only reason I'd need to go with an iPad.

    • @YourMajestyTheKing
      @YourMajestyTheKing 5 лет назад +1

      Not sure what the Notability app is. Is it a separate app from what you take notes with? Would it quit when ipad run out of ram.

    • @RonnieTeeSmith
      @RonnieTeeSmith 5 лет назад +8

      Prius Driver It’s an app you have to purchase. It’s like $10-12 or so, but it’s one of the best note-taking apps. I haven’t had any crashing issues in 4 months of daily use. It’s also nice because you can download the app (once purchased) on your phone and you can view your notes via iCloud backup on it.

    • @zv3032
      @zv3032 5 лет назад +11

      I’m a psychology student and using the iPad and pencil paired with notability is totally amazing. Definitely agree that it was a good purchase.

    • @huey1153
      @huey1153 4 года назад +13

      If you don’t think those two tasks are doable on other operating systems, you’re lost lmao

    • @milanchacko2095
      @milanchacko2095 4 года назад +3

      All Alone he never said it wasn’t possible. It’s just the best operating system to do it on.

  • @williamchisholm2032
    @williamchisholm2032 5 лет назад +181

    I personally request more 6 second intermissions

  • @ClemensAlive
    @ClemensAlive 5 лет назад +62

    I'm using the Surface Pro X (with the slim Pen keyboard as in the video) since 1 week now.
    I can't compare it to the iPad pro, because I dont have one.
    But everything he says about the Pro X is very accurate.
    BUT I bought the Pro X BECAUSE I wanted to have a slim laptop with tablet functionalities. Fot me it was switching to a mobile, paperless office.
    So, even if Win 10 for the surface is a bit clunky till now, I have to say, as a mobile Laptop, it is the best!
    The Office Suite works perfectly fine on this device. I could not ask for more here.
    Pro Tip:
    Set up you Surface Pen to open "OneNote" when pushing the button on top.
    You will not need to buy paper collega blocks anymore in your life.
    I LOVE taking notes by hand. But in the last week, the whole mess on my desk is just....gone!
    I'm running a 5 man business with this device from everywhere and for me it is like switching from cellphone to smartphone!
    (started up my laptop yesterday and was disappointed, that the screen did not react to my touching!^^ after just one week,)
    Once you go tablet, you never go back! :D (it is the future. )
    Note: I was swotching from a MacBook pro (2015) to the Surface Pro X. I really like Apple ( I also use an iPhone).
    I dont know how good the iPad pro is in Laptop functionality. But here I was trusting the more boring, business company...
    If Microsoft wants to go all in on tablet computers, Win 10 and the Appstore will become better very quick. It just has to...

    • @SentinelRouge
      @SentinelRouge 5 лет назад +2

      ClemensAlive could have bought a master peace laptop with the same price you spent for surface pro x. Surface pro is really laggy like omg why would someone produce something this laggy in 2018

    • @softwareluxor7028
      @softwareluxor7028 4 года назад

      dont buy stupid i have one after using about a month that stupid microsoft broken

    • @softwareluxor7028
      @softwareluxor7028 4 года назад

      i know everyone wants buy because want show off

    • @softwareluxor7028
      @softwareluxor7028 4 года назад

      what u get buy hah?? only can drawing and watch youtube ?? so boring i hate it so i sell

    • @KF22TV
      @KF22TV 4 года назад +1

      Software Luxor are you talking about surface pro 7 or IPad?

  • @christianpoet7815
    @christianpoet7815 5 лет назад +58

    This is a great comparison, not biased and looks at the pros and cons of both devices without the fanboyness of most reviewers... Thumbs up!

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 года назад

      How is comparing a computer to a big iPhone a "great" comparison?

    • @christianpoet7815
      @christianpoet7815 3 года назад +1

      @@msp5138 sorry you see it differently. Have a good day and a good life.

    • @tommy-rr7yf
      @tommy-rr7yf Год назад

      I agree . I’m having a issue trying to sync my iPad Pro to my Microsoft Surface Pro X . I am trying everything I used one drive I have a solid connection. I’m in Lithuania teaching classes

  • @zergougfaycal3972
    @zergougfaycal3972 5 лет назад +26

    I find it a fair comparison especially pointing out that this is the first attempt from Microsoft on arm based processors and there's a room for improvement. You did a nice job there.

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 года назад +1

      Please with the nonsense. Have you even tried the SPX? Or do you just listen to people who can't get a real tech job. Windows has 35 millions apps/programs to iPads 1.9 million. Millions more apps can't run on an iPad compared to the SPX. At the end of the day, one is a real computer and the other is a big iPhone.

    • @zergougfaycal3972
      @zergougfaycal3972 3 года назад

      @@msp5138 dude chill you literally missed the point. What I'm saying is that is a first gen product I never said the ipad was "better" than the Surface pro x. in contrary I find it amazing what Microsoft is doing with the surface brand. All I'm saying there's still more room for improvements.

    • @zergougfaycal3972
      @zergougfaycal3972 3 года назад

      @@msp5138 most of windows programs are based on x86 architecture and what the SPX has a new arm based cpu. So it's true more programs on SPX but they still not work as they do in a surface pro 7 or laptop or any other windows computer. Still Microsoft is doing a great job here and I personally wish to see all windows programs work flawlessly as in any other windows computer.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад +1

      @@zergougfaycal3972 Again do you own an SPX or even SP7? I own both and rarely touch my SP7 anymore. SPX has:
      1. bigger screen
      2. brighter screen
      3. smaller bezels
      4. thinner design which makes it easier hold and use for notetaking
      5. LTE connectivity
      6. longer battery life by 20%-30%
      7. no fan because it doesn't get hot
      8. runs every program/apps I need except the statistical software SPSS and AMOS (but can run R-Studio)
      There is a reason Daniel Rubino at Windows Central uses it has his daily drive over every other Windows device.

    • @zergougfaycal3972
      @zergougfaycal3972 3 года назад

      @@RK-um9tu well you just solidified my opinion about surface devices, they're amazing but now I'm more then convinced to buy a surface.

  • @skilarbabcock
    @skilarbabcock 5 лет назад +23

    Says fair comparison, title says "is it even a contest"
    Makes sense.
    Also, first are based surface was the Surface RT iirc

  • @moudireifan63
    @moudireifan63 5 лет назад +70

    I use my iPad Pro to edit full length videos. I love my Ipad, it’s so useful

    • @msp5138
      @msp5138 3 года назад

      No one edits videos on a iPad. Consumers use their phones and professionals use a desktop/laptop...

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      If iPads are so useful why have their unit sales plummeted from 73 million in 2013 to 40 million in 2019. And their market share crashed from over 70% to 34%? Would love to hear your asnwer...lol

  • @LoganT547
    @LoganT547 5 лет назад +25

    I literally got a Surface Laptop ad before this 😂

  • @rohandatta7111
    @rohandatta7111 5 лет назад +41

    I can’t see why you would buy the pro x, if you want a laptop you should get a full laptop. The surface pro x is an okay tablet and an okay laptop,

    • @hryank33
      @hryank33 5 лет назад +15

      Rohan Datta pro 7 is much better at the moment

    • @rickylife
      @rickylife 5 лет назад +2

      what if you want to do light gaming and also note taking??

    • @keyonraissinia6001
      @keyonraissinia6001 5 лет назад +5

      Ricky Life get the ipad lol

    • @rickylife
      @rickylife 5 лет назад +4

      @@keyonraissinia6001 Can it run GTA san andreas, Prince of persia, need for speed most wanted, call of duty with mouse support? I don't think so.

    • @pixsled
      @pixsled 5 лет назад +4

      @@rickylife man just buy an ipad and a gaming laptop

  • @RackaApps
    @RackaApps 5 лет назад +63

    I thought my phone was dead with at 7:45

  • @NKBobcat
    @NKBobcat 3 года назад +7

    Thanks for being fair. It's two years later and my surface pro x is fantastic. I'm a developer in the Azure space and Power platform and it's ideal for my needs. The LTE is great and it gives me no limits when it comes to connectivity. There are many more 64-bit apps available and I'm running Windows 11 64-bit on it now.

    • @hk6926
      @hk6926 2 года назад

      Ans iPad with m1 remains a toy

    • @johnwooden4766
      @johnwooden4766 Год назад +1

      Maybe you should do a review. I would like to what other apps you are using and accessories.

  • @iliquify
    @iliquify 5 лет назад +33

    its like comparing apples with surfaces

    • @fancy3774
      @fancy3774 5 лет назад +7

      I can live without apples but I can't live without surface

    • @pixsled
      @pixsled 5 лет назад

      @@fancy3774 so I guess the doctor with you rn

    • @ty_tyti
      @ty_tyti 3 года назад

      @@fancy3774 i’ll just get both 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @steep9695
    @steep9695 5 лет назад +102

    The thumbnail is extremely eye taking, great job! 👍

    • @lordcorporal4247
      @lordcorporal4247 5 лет назад

      Yeah I thought this Aswell. Thumbnails are easy to make but hard to master its impressive to make one that stands out so much from the thousands I've seen. 👍

  • @0hMyGandhi
    @0hMyGandhi 5 лет назад +22

    What a great review and breakdown!
    What people need to realize is that the iPad is ridiculously powerful. I am a rather hardcore Microsoft fan myself, but as an illustrator, the iPad Pro has been absolutely tremendous. Virtually no latency with drawing, no parallax, no missed strokes. It's the most responsive "screen tablet" drawing experience I've ever had, and that's having owned a Surface Pro 2 (with Wacom's EMR technology), a Surface Book, and a Surface Pro 3, on top of a plethora of Wacom Intuos tablets and a couple Cintiqs of different sizes.
    For people who want a digital sketchbook/notebook and the best device for media consumption, the Ipad pro is just an amazing piece of tech. It functions as a "companion device" first and foremost. It will not replace a laptop or desktop. It's getting there with each software update, but if you are someone going to school and need a light productivity workload with office and an actual PC operating system, you can get by with basically any convertible laptop on the market right now.

    • @A-ID-A-M
      @A-ID-A-M 5 лет назад +3

      Oh My Gandhi exactly. I’m an android fanboy, but you can’t argue it. I finally broke down after feeling conflicted and bought one. It’s so fast and speedy and perfect for college. It also works perfectly w my android phone (I still prefer android phones). I got tired on fan problems and hot laptops, and now I’m ready to use this. :)

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      iPads are not personal computers. They are big iPhones that run smartphone apps (only 1.9 million compared the 35 million Windows programs Surface devices can run). They can't run MacOS applications. For this reason they are an inferior product which is why their unit sales have plummeted from 73 million in 2013 to 40 milliion in 2019. And their market share has crashed from over 70% to 34% in less than a decade. You are welcome for the free education...lol

  • @JeremyDeBose
    @JeremyDeBose 5 лет назад +70

    Apple has a pencil with no eraser on the end, and Microsoft has a pen with an eraser on the end. 🧐

    • @WarAlex16
      @WarAlex16 5 лет назад +1

      Jeremy DeBose dude I know lol

    • @mrbig6856
      @mrbig6856 5 лет назад

      It's a ink eraser lol

    • @kaydreamer
      @kaydreamer 5 лет назад +17

      Way more important than an eraser is the accuracy, sensitivity and ergonomics of the pen. The Apple Pencil absolutely destroys Microsoft’s pens at this. I used a Surface Pro to draw for two years before switching to the iPad. Drawing on the Surface is okay-ish for an amateur without any other options. The Apple Pencil is a pro-level device. The Surface Pro was tedious at best to draw with. The iPad Pro is an absolute joy for illustration. To a professional artist, there is no comparison here.

    • @小小达
      @小小达 5 лет назад +8

      When I switch back to normal pen or pencil, I often double touch them accidentally.🤣

    • @dibujemaestro
      @dibujemaestro 5 лет назад

      Great deal! I will buy this shit because of that!!!

  • @goldmansachs6412
    @goldmansachs6412 4 года назад +13

    The only reason I don't give iPads and iPhones a second look, is the redundant file management system.

  • @LizLosingIt
    @LizLosingIt 5 лет назад +184

    So you're a brony?
    Edit : congratulations

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +22

      Yep

    • @hryank33
      @hryank33 5 лет назад +17

      Surface pro X is good at neither at the moment.
      Surface pro 7 is a better description.

    • @Pbeezy4
      @Pbeezy4 5 лет назад

      @@hryank33 facts

    • @jun8297
      @jun8297 5 лет назад +1

      Noah Herman what ..?

    • @dnevs79
      @dnevs79 5 лет назад +1

      William Topping lets not start this people. All people have a preferences and prejudices, but not all are racist, though many black, white, Asian, Indian, middle eastern, or whatever are.
      And to add, while most white individuals are not racist, one cannot deny that preferential treatment does indeed exist... but to that I say ignore the ignorant and confused, and push forward do your best at affecting that which you can (can’t change the minds of close minded people)

  • @Minute6080
    @Minute6080 5 лет назад +15

    Why am I watching this, if I know I won’t get one or be given one

  • @lazyman1011
    @lazyman1011 4 года назад +3

    2:18 surface pen lag is insane compared to the iPad, normally i could switch of but I'll enjoy the rest of the video.

    • @sca___lnp929
      @sca___lnp929 4 года назад

      Insane ? xD no at all

    • @herooflegend2602
      @herooflegend2602 4 года назад

      On the pro x it may be but on pro 7 its no noticable

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      How would you know? You are just a iTroll seeking attention.
      No one reviewers talk about lag on Surface devices.
      Amazing how much iTroll feel the need to post lies...

  • @reevanamin5865
    @reevanamin5865 5 лет назад +93

    Wtf happened in 7:45

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +58

      I just LOVE blank black space. It makes me happy and I wanted to share some with you 😂 😅

    • @JeremyDeBose
      @JeremyDeBose 5 лет назад +4

      😂😂😂

    • @SoulHorizon1313
      @SoulHorizon1313 5 лет назад

      Noah Herman I like it

  • @karttavaya
    @karttavaya 5 лет назад +9

    If the surface had better app support , I wouldn't even have had to think twice before getting it !

    • @hryank33
      @hryank33 5 лет назад

      kartavaya arora I hope developers would get on board.

    • @Soldiershak
      @Soldiershak 5 лет назад

      I was hoping the same windows also needs to make windows take advantage of tablet screens, I'll wait for the next version, but I'll probably be out of the tablet market by then. I ended up going with the iPad pro and a Galaxy Tab tab S6

    • @herooflegend2602
      @herooflegend2602 4 года назад

      Just get pro 7

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      What are you talking about? Surface Pros and Xs run over 35 million Windows programs and 1 million apps from the Windows store.
      iPads run 1.9 million smartphone apps and no MacOS applications.

  • @nic_ccc3366
    @nic_ccc3366 5 лет назад +14

    Loving your attention to the Surface products (not just ipads 😁). I agree - at this price range, you'll be compromising too much with the X, and you shouldn't have to. Really most people will be better off getting the SP7 instead. If devs finally jump on Windows on ARM it'll be interesting to compare them, but it doesn't seem to be happening unfortunately. Saw the Pro X in store the other day though and Microsoft is killing the hardware side at least.

  • @janavi07
    @janavi07 5 лет назад +45

    Ipad pro (2019) vs surface pro 7 please!

    • @IcanseeeverythingwhatyouDohere
      @IcanseeeverythingwhatyouDohere 5 лет назад +4

      Its probs iPad Pro (2020) iPad Pro (2019) wont be in this year.

    • @hotrod2391
      @hotrod2391 5 лет назад +6

      the ipad pro will be massacred.

    • @spencercarruth9706
      @spencercarruth9706 5 лет назад +1

      There is no 2019 iPad Pro.....

    • @traviscrawford6516
      @traviscrawford6516 5 лет назад

      @@hotrod2391 yeah thats a joke

    • @nuloom
      @nuloom 5 лет назад +2

      the two things are different categories. The valid comparison would be 16" MacBook Pro + iPad Pro vs Surface Pro 7, as Apple doesn't seem interested in making a product that's between the two product lines they already are selling. but then that combination would a) blow the surface pro out of the water because b) it would cost way more. I know we like comparing apples to windows but in all honesty, I feel like this just isn't material for a good comparison, unless the iPad could run macOS and was meant to be a laptop replacement, but it isn't. It has a whole different target market, considering that Apple still sells laptops.

  • @steep9695
    @steep9695 5 лет назад +36

    Ipad pro got that 120Hz refresh rate tho

    • @Mark-uk8wz
      @Mark-uk8wz 5 лет назад

      Which is useful for what?

    • @ronniemetcalf6382
      @ronniemetcalf6382 5 лет назад +10

      Ted it’s easy on the eyes, my guy. As he says, buttery smooth

    • @b0ssihabeacancer45
      @b0ssihabeacancer45 5 лет назад +10

      @@Mark-uk8wz if you're drawing, taking notes, or doing intensive gaming, you're probably really want that smooth 120Hz display

    • @apexjailor9349
      @apexjailor9349 5 лет назад +2

      b0ss i habe a cancer intensive Gaming on the iPad is common for me frogger looks amazing!

    • @gameraddikted
      @gameraddikted 5 лет назад +1

      Ted Fluidity of the device. Makes it more pleasurable to use, easier on the eyes and it can even potentially can save battery life when the refresh is low.

  • @localblackman427
    @localblackman427 5 лет назад +5

    Lol I thought the government hacked me at 7:45 lol. Great video fellow lefty!!

  • @m4rvelero
    @m4rvelero 5 лет назад +2

    Mmmmh... 13 inch iPad Pro vs Surface Pro X vs hypothetical 2020 Surface Neo. I love what you're doing Noah 👏

  • @14thegr8
    @14thegr8 5 лет назад +16

    "If you're someone who's really involved with Microfost ecosystem" ........Microsoft has an ecosystem?

    • @Yardddy
      @Yardddy 5 лет назад +1

      ATJ 😂😂😂
      I actually had to Google it... Search was damn near a fail... 😩

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +3

      I meant more like a software ecosystem my bad ☠️

    • @Soldiershak
      @Soldiershak 5 лет назад

      Software, Microsoft office as an example

    • @jackgunn1480
      @jackgunn1480 5 лет назад

      There are far more legacy windows apps available than iOS apps in the apple store. So ya, there's an ecosystem, and it blows the Apple ecosystem out of the water.

    • @bluefox174
      @bluefox174 5 лет назад

      Yes that’s what the surface line is. The surface keyboard,mouse,headphones and pen work best with surface devices

  • @rahmadisatriowibowo7019
    @rahmadisatriowibowo7019 5 лет назад +4

    ARM on Windows in 2019; a "big" improvement (over windows rt) but needs to improve even further because windows is supposed to be x86 based OS

  • @lewisdoyle
    @lewisdoyle 5 лет назад +2

    I’m an iPad Pro 12.9” 2nd gen user and I love it. But the power for productivity on the X really intrigued me. It’s a shame that the X isn’t quite there in terms of non Microsoft apps yet otherwise I think it would be the better tablet.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      You are joking right? Why are earth are you listen to a college kid? Read Daniel Rubino's review at Windows Central and watch his video.

  • @Yardddy
    @Yardddy 5 лет назад +29

    I understand why you made a comparison video.
    And thanks for that...
    But honestly, there isn't a worthy enough tablet on the market to compete on iPad Pro's level.

    • @ttrotary7
      @ttrotary7 5 лет назад +5

      Try hooking it up to a monitor and using it with a keyboard and mouse.... Straight garbage

    • @Yardddy
      @Yardddy 5 лет назад +10

      Marques Oliveira it’s a tablet... not a Mac mini... NEXT!

    • @ttrotary7
      @ttrotary7 5 лет назад +7

      @@Yardddy literally the opening line of this video, was about how iPadOS made it so you can "be productive" yea the ipad is a great tablet, burns garbage "laptop replacement" and since Apple keeps advertising as that, it continues to fail. Even the surface go isms million times better than an iPad. Its about a multi function device which the surface is and the iPad is desperately trying to be and failing miserably

    • @Yardddy
      @Yardddy 5 лет назад +9

      Marques Oliveira I’m not here to sell you an iPad dude. Go waste your money on a Surface Pro with your Microsoft office apps. 👌🏾

    • @ttrotary7
      @ttrotary7 5 лет назад +5

      @@Yardddy seems you are hellbent on being an apple fanboy. IPad is a good tablet, but a garbage laptop replacement, you know for people who want to do actual work... Not just play angry birds

  • @holycrapitsjake_
    @holycrapitsjake_ 5 лет назад +22

    Based on personal experience, seems to me like iPad Pros are incredible tablets and meh laptop replacements, while Surface Pros are okay laptops and okayish tablets.

    • @cliffords2315
      @cliffords2315 3 года назад

      Microsoft Surface Pro 7 is superior to both, its an actual PC that is also a Tab

    • @holycrapitsjake_
      @holycrapitsjake_ 3 года назад

      @@cliffords2315 yeah, after spending 3 years with surface pros, i beg to differ.
      is it a pc? yes
      does it do PC stuff equally as well as iPads do iPad stuff? no
      is the battery life decent while doing PC stuff? no

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      ​@@holycrapitsjake_ iPads are not personal computers. They are big iPhones that run smartphone apps (only 1.9 million compared the 35 million Windows programs Surface devices can run). They can't run MacOS applications. For this reason they are an inferior product which is why their unit sales have plummeted from 73 million in 2013 to 40 milliion in 2019. And their market share has crashed from over 70% to 34% in less than a decade. You are welcome for the free education...lol

    • @holycrapitsjake_
      @holycrapitsjake_ 3 года назад

      @@RK-um9tu I never said iPads are personal computers. I said they’re meh laptop replacements. Learn to read. Unfortunately they still do their intended job better than surface products do theirs, which is why for an “inferior product” with plummeting unit sales (even though anyone with half a brain knows the tablet market as a whole is slowed because nobody replaces theirs every two years) no other OEMs even come close to their “34%” share. Meanwhile surface products have grown like shit over the last decade. Even through a fucking pandemic where tablet and pc sales resurged. You are welcome for the free education lol.

  • @ChrisUchiha95
    @ChrisUchiha95 4 года назад +6

    I’ve got an iPad Pro, but if I could go back I’ll get a surface, the only problem if iPad pro is iPadOS, if it had macOS it would have been perfect

  • @LW62_Gaming
    @LW62_Gaming 4 года назад

    My favorite thing about your reviews is that you aren’t out here relying on geek bench scores or 4K rendering for your reviews. They’re in there, but you focus on what MOST people need

  • @stephena347
    @stephena347 5 лет назад +7

    I really enjoy your reviews. Keep up the great work!

  • @ich6885
    @ich6885 5 лет назад +5

    7:45 is when the battery died after over ten hours

  • @JTM1809
    @JTM1809 5 лет назад +29

    Not even close. There, dear viewers. I’ve saved you 14 mins of your lives.

    • @raymondjin6812
      @raymondjin6812 5 лет назад +4

      I agree. Like sure, they’re both competing in the tablet space, but the Pro X is first gen hardware, so it’s more so of an experiment to see if ARM is even worth people’s time. The iPad Pro really isn’t anything special, you’re just paying more for the functionality of a iPad because it has a few more features.

    • @JTM1809
      @JTM1809 5 лет назад +5

      Raymond jin
      Yeah, no. People have known for quite some time, that not only is ARM worth their time (as Intel is years behind on process innovation), but it’s the way to go in the future. We didn’t need Microsoft to join the party late and confirm, that the wheel indeed spins.
      Tablets are the death of low and mid-spec notebooks, which is a segment, that will cease to exist in a couple of years.
      Before iPadOS, iPad Pro was pretty much what you said. With iPadOS, the situation has changed dramatically.
      Pro X cannot compete with iPad Pro. Even though Microsoft gradually learns the trade of premium hardware design, their devices are held down by the worst OS ever invented, that forces them to chuck in more RAM, with the result still being inferior performance (just like Android phones).
      Pro X will get squarely beaten by 2018 iPad Pro in synthetic as well as real life performance benchmark, meanwhile the next gen iPad Pros are just around the corner.
      Apple foresaw years ago, that the way to go is silicon and OS custom-tailored for each other. Microsoft joined the game late and they are held down by their dinosaur OS, which they are unwilling to part their way with.
      Again and again, Microsoft are playing catch-up and inevitably losing, which reflects in their vastly inferior sales figures.

    • @JoshManMate
      @JoshManMate 5 лет назад +12

      ​@@JTM1809
      You lost me at "inferior performance (just like Android phones)".
      Now i'm not a bias fanboy for Android or Apple but it's very clear to me that you are speaking from 100% bias and not experience, you clearly have no experience with new Androids & Microsoft products & yet hear you are preaching about how Apple is better lol
      Good luck with that little apple monkey on your back mate.
      Want to know the biggest difference between Android, Microsoft & Apple users? Apple users spend more time trying to justify their purchases lol

    • @JTM1809
      @JTM1809 5 лет назад +1

      Schwifty
      Not really, mate. When I spoke of performance, I meant specifically CPU/GPU, because the other guy talked about ARM processors. I did not mean by that, that iPhones outperform Android phones in every aspect (that obviously isn’t the case, see cameras, displays, etc.). iPhones are just consistently better at top CPU/GPU performance benchmarks.
      I used to use Android phones (specifically Samsung), and I was very happy with them. My Samsung Galaxy S4 had a Super AMOLED display in 2012, which was 5 years before Apple introduced its first OLED phone with big fanfare. Recently, I traveled in business capacity and the local branch of my company provided me with a Samsung phone. And I had a very good experience with it and concluded, that if I ever had to go back to Android, I’d be just fine in terms of daily driving. Which is not something I could say about Microsoft products.
      And it’s not just my individual ignorant opinion: unlike Microsoft’s inferior HW products, elite Android phone manufacturers (Samsung, 1+, etc.) actually pass the test of the market and run a profitable business, which doesn’t need to be subsidized from other departments of the same company to remain afloat.

    • @OsmarMty
      @OsmarMty 5 лет назад +2

      @@JTM1809 >My 2012 Android Phone
      >Ok, iToddler

  • @DeepakBhakoo
    @DeepakBhakoo 5 лет назад +2

    Noah, one question. Just like we can have the same phone number and LTE of the iPhone on the Apple cellular watch, can we have the same on iPad cellular too? Or do we have to buy another sim? If it can be done then how?

    • @WarAlex16
      @WarAlex16 5 лет назад

      Deepak Bhakoo each line has their own numbers. You link the devices because of your iCloud.

    • @WarAlex16
      @WarAlex16 5 лет назад

      To receive messages, calls, etc.

  • @myronachtman4304
    @myronachtman4304 5 лет назад +1

    I would have liked to see a side-by-side cost comparison with the necessary extras (such as a keyboard) included in both configurations.

    • @championsgaming1
      @championsgaming1 2 года назад

      i checked it out grtanted two years later. much more worth to get the ipad. because you can pay the same price but get another upgrade in storage in the ipad. to get the same storage ipad is like 3-400 cheaper

  • @Mimikz
    @Mimikz 5 лет назад

    Yo homie how did you afford it though???

  • @tommyxev
    @tommyxev 5 лет назад

    So much thought was put into this video! Well done :)

  • @AyahDemerdash
    @AyahDemerdash 5 лет назад +2

    Noah please help me I still can't choose.. I need a device which will help me write notes EASILY which is my main purpose to redeem the usage of papers for notes also I want to use it for work as I am working as Microsoft office and searching online so which one would you recommend me ?

    • @liab435
      @liab435 5 лет назад

      I have a MUCH cheaper ipad 6, paired with a cover by logitech and the apple pencil- that did cost me around 450€. I use goodnotes for notetaking and as a digital calendar, paint and animate (mostly for fun!) on procreate and have microsoft office for free as a student. I can not recomend it enough! Before that I was a windows user and wouldn't have wanted to buy any apple product but I'm glad I did! 😎

  • @naturecoastmedia9505
    @naturecoastmedia9505 5 лет назад +1

    I have the 2018 11in. iPad Pro. With iPad 0s13 It is all I need. Great Video.

  • @47crazed
    @47crazed 4 года назад +7

    i love my ipad
    - loud speakers
    - 120hz display refresh
    - p3 color gamut
    - most accurate and most responsive stylus
    - works smooth when editing videos
    - offers high graphics video games
    - long lasting battery
    - best camera for scanning documents
    - offers a lot of useful productivity apps

  • @code_breaker099
    @code_breaker099 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for advising us.

  • @HouBMan
    @HouBMan 4 года назад +1

    I am about 9 min through the video. The content is fabulous - app out of 10.
    One suggestion: take a few ads away. I think I’ve watched 3 ads in my 9 min. There is probably a better content to ad ratio than the one you have set up on this video.
    But that said, GREAT VIDEO!!

  • @KRUX006
    @KRUX006 4 года назад +4

    Just bought the 2018 12.9 iPad , the 2020 had them drop a bit in price

  • @givemespeed7557
    @givemespeed7557 4 года назад

    Noah , if I am medical college student which one should I buy

  • @Alex4SiliconValley
    @Alex4SiliconValley 5 лет назад +12

    You are right, Putting a desktop OS on a tablet just does not work. The iPad is better thought out , easier to use and more productive.

    • @JoshuaRotimi
      @JoshuaRotimi 5 лет назад +3

      Lol

    • @gfyGoogle
      @gfyGoogle 5 лет назад +1

      That’s also why touchscreen windows computers are gimmicky and pointless

  • @paradox9265
    @paradox9265 4 года назад

    Can u do this again in a bit with the Magic Keyboard?

  • @gehteuchnichtsan7911
    @gehteuchnichtsan7911 4 года назад

    Really honest and fair comparison. Nice work.

  • @bradavon
    @bradavon 5 лет назад +5

    Have you tried Edge Chromium or Firefox for ARM? Both should work really well and fix a major use case of laptops.

  • @mrollets
    @mrollets 5 лет назад

    What camera do you use for videos?

  • @2Evan
    @2Evan 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent, objective comparison. Exclusively an Apple products user here, but very important that people have several options. Keeps those companies honest. iWork suite is very good at word processing, worksheets, and presentations. Can open and save your docs in MS Office format if required. Personal choice based on your needs in the end.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      You are joking right? Who compares a real computer to a big iPhone?

  • @ravilaf3
    @ravilaf3 4 года назад

    What about the Surface Pro X and Surface Pro 7, is there a key feature that helps me decide between these?

  • @robot2374
    @robot2374 5 лет назад +1

    Lmao I thought 7:45 was a poor battery life joke lolololol 😂 😂

  • @yuut01234
    @yuut01234 4 года назад

    Does iPad heats up like Surface?

  • @LiamGunes
    @LiamGunes 5 лет назад +1

    How does the iPad Pro match up versus the Surface Pro 7 as a tablet? I’m on the other side of the podium and spend lots of time marking documents/models.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      What are you talking about? SP7 is a computer the size of a tablet? What more do you need to know.
      Asking how it works as a tablet makes zero sense. The better question is how are iPads was computers?

    • @LiamGunes
      @LiamGunes 3 года назад

      @@RK-um9tu Makes perfect sense for my use case. Neither of these work as full on computers for me. For me, iPad or Surface would be for doing things like hand marking assignments, reading e-books, and as support for my workstation.

  • @floatingdoor
    @floatingdoor 5 лет назад

    I know its not the iPad your reviewing but I used the previous gen pro model and I used it to make all my visuals for my music. I sadly busted my screen so I'm in software/hardware limbo. Wish the Surface had more support from devs.

  • @allenslucher8555
    @allenslucher8555 5 лет назад +1

    Office 365 makes office a beautiful experience on both. Safari for the pro is now a full desktop class browser, and I’ve loved the new power usage in the web based 365 client. Definitely makes office nearly the same for the pads. My One Drive and iCloud play nicely together, leaving me legitimately no longer needing a real PC. FYI - my own experiences warranted, as I’m more of a creator as opposed to more of a consumer

  • @joaomendes1574
    @joaomendes1574 4 года назад +1

    No, there is no contest at all, Surface line has a full desktop OS, point
    In the meantime you can't even put your fav apps in the "desktop" interface on iPad cause it's full with a drawer of all the apps

  • @CasualViewer-t4f
    @CasualViewer-t4f 5 лет назад

    It’s not a competitor yet but it’s another arm device that devs can make software for so in the long run it will hopefully lead to more professional apps on arm architecture.

  • @meepom774
    @meepom774 4 года назад +1

    I have a surface 7 and it is essentially just a Touchscreen laptop, works very well for a last year high school student, I am, however, getting an IPad as well (not the pro but the air3) as a secondary device for more note taking and digital art stuff, both devices are good

  • @mikemiles3068
    @mikemiles3068 5 лет назад +3

    Great review! 👍👨‍💻✅

  • @kristinatavarez9366
    @kristinatavarez9366 5 лет назад +2

    I have an older surface but for some reason Spotify and Netflix don’t work. It says something like “ blah blah blah not for this pc”

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      Warning, Warning, Troll Alert. This is why he can't say which which type of Surface he owns (Pro, X, or Book) and doesn't say the model (SP7, SP5, SB2, etc.)

  • @aestheticswithniyah3644
    @aestheticswithniyah3644 4 года назад

    What gen is this

  • @MCAQUIN0
    @MCAQUIN0 4 года назад

    so can the surface pro run full windows software or is it just another chrome book? its description on the website says first web base etc etc..so im curious

  • @krishnasantosh9999
    @krishnasantosh9999 5 лет назад +2

    How many of you checked whether the audio is in 2x ?

  • @humphreyfrancoisastibe
    @humphreyfrancoisastibe 5 лет назад +1

    Hey may I ask if 64gb is enough for an ipad pro if I will use it as my only computer/gadget as a student?

    • @flamezyz
      @flamezyz 5 лет назад

      Humphrey François Astibe yeah I’m wondering that as well

    • @amritangural8508
      @amritangural8508 5 лет назад +3

      Yes absolutely! Get the 64Gb version and get an external HDD or SSD wired. I got my 64gb version iPad just 2 weeks ago. Bought a hdd, and since new iPad OS supports external storages now there's no need of shelling out hundreds of bucks for extra storage.

    • @flamezyz
      @flamezyz 5 лет назад

      Can you send a link to a good one?

    • @Soldiershak
      @Soldiershak 5 лет назад +1

      It should be with an external drive and making use of cloud storage. Personally I'd pick 128gbs, but I've lived with 64gbs for years. As long as you don't download movies etc you should be good

  • @aestheticswithniyah3644
    @aestheticswithniyah3644 4 года назад

    Is this the 3 gen

  • @runcmd1419
    @runcmd1419 4 года назад +2

    Releasing a premium windows device with no app support, where have i heard that one before?

  • @howardskeivys4184
    @howardskeivys4184 5 лет назад +3

    Excellent review and comparison. Inevitable conclusion. I think the iPad Pro is the most versatile computing device currently available.

    • @Soldiershak
      @Soldiershak 5 лет назад

      Me too I prefer windows on a desktop or laptop. It's just not optimized for tablet use yet, but iPad took the lead ago I'd probably never go back.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      translation: i don't know the difference between a real computer and a big iPhone.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      @@Soldiershak What are you talking about, not optimized for tablet use yet. That makes no sense at all
      As for iPads their unit sales have plummeted from 73 million to 40 million in 6 years for a reason.
      There market share a noise dived from over 70% to 34% in 10 years for a reason.
      They are big iPhones with limited functionality.

  • @lordneojacks
    @lordneojacks 4 года назад

    I’m so happy the review takes in consideraron productivity and not just only creativity

  • @Iril87
    @Iril87 5 лет назад +1

    So Procreate available for surface pro x? 🤔

    • @YourMajestyTheKing
      @YourMajestyTheKing 5 лет назад +1

      No dude!! It's not even on Android. If you ever read about them, they are not a real software company,. Procreate is like a side gig thus no capacity to support multi-OS. I actually am glad or they might start become subscription software and you know how that goes.

  • @captncloud50
    @captncloud50 5 лет назад +1

    You may want to make an edit at 12:32. Someone’s phone number is displayed along with a message regarding a package. I hope you received your package however! Great review otherwise!

    • @NoahHerman
      @NoahHerman  5 лет назад +1

      I DID LMFAO. Thanks for notifying me.

  • @bisporoxannekylad.6614
    @bisporoxannekylad.6614 4 года назад +4

    Eh i’d take the iPad pro any day. Just so much more holdable. Also, Airdrop is so convenient and iPad Pros in general are much more powerful but not gonna lie... the Microsoft Office apps are and will always be part of my school life ♥️ and work in the future ofc

    • @motorbikefu5632
      @motorbikefu5632 4 года назад +1

      I’m a writer (my job) and I use the iPad Pro largely for the Microsoft office suite, which works better in the iPad apps than the native version in windows. You just have to learn where they’ve hidden all the buttons. Full functionality is there. For instance one of the most common complaints about Word on the iPad is you can’t align embedded images. You actually can, the button just looks different. It took me a week to adapt to the new controls though, so you do have to adapt somewhat.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад +1

      @@motorbikefu5632 Typical lying iTroll. Windows apps do not run better on iPads.

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      Have you heard of snapdrop? And iPad Pros arenot more powerful because they can't run MacOS applications. They can only run smartphone apps...lol

    • @aldev6381
      @aldev6381 2 года назад

      @@RK-um9tu so you think the benchmark isn’t showing that the iPad is more powerful? Lol

    • @DJJUUPITR
      @DJJUUPITR 2 года назад

      @@aldev6381 benchmarks mean nothing in real time usage. Surface pros will always run better programs than ipad.

  • @JohnDoe-dj3xh
    @JohnDoe-dj3xh 5 лет назад

    there is a sim slot under the kick stand

  • @hotrod2391
    @hotrod2391 5 лет назад

    Have you downloaded and used Edge for ARM?

  • @bradavon
    @bradavon 5 лет назад +1

    You talked about battery but didn't say how long? :-/

  • @LazyPCRehab
    @LazyPCRehab 5 лет назад +3

    Would love for Apple to support a touchpad fully. Brydge is releasing an iPad Pro keyboard with a touchpad in early Q1 of 2020.

  • @me2olive
    @me2olive 5 лет назад

    10:11 Here's what I don't get. A whole bunch of industry press (like Windows Central, etc.) have been invited to various 8cx events where Photoshop in particular was shown off, and they seem to have ALL been really impressed with the performance. The Pro X should be even faster than an 8cx. So why is the performance of this actual product "not great" in practice when it comes to x86 emulation? Was Qualcomm doing something shady in their demos to make performance look better than it really is, or did they cherry pick journalists they knew would give them an easy ride?

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      Since when are benchmarks that have nothing to do with real world preformance meaningful.
      The question is are iPads computers. The answer is NO.
      The question is how many smartphone apps can they run, the answer is 1.9 million (compared to 35 million
      Windows programs for the SPX).
      Also maybe you shouldn't listen to a college kid who makes RUclips video from his parents liviing room.

  • @Seanvandeusen
    @Seanvandeusen 5 лет назад +1

    Great video! However if you use mostly Microsoft applications you're best bet is a older surface or pretty much any laptop that has windows. Those applications including Microsoft Office can run flawlessly on pretty much any windows device made in the past 10 years. So rather than pay over $1k for the Surface X your better off buying a cheap laptop or older Surface. Litterally a $299 laptop from Walmart will do the trick. Sadly the surface audience will be mostly people who want something sleek and thin, a tablet to replace their bulky laptops. However in the past 12 months we've seen windows laptops drop in price and become much thinner. Not to mention within 4 hours of owning the Surface X you'll want to buy a keyboard case anyways. If you want something for gaming, editing videos or photos the surface X isn't for you. If you want something that a $299 (with touch screen) windows based laptop can do but want to pay the extra $700 because why not!? Then I'd get the Surface X. The ipad is also limited when it comes to many school and work related things. Many companies have programs they offer that don't support ios. However the gaming library is incredibly big and continues to grow. You can edit 4k video files with no issue and edit large raw photos in photoshop with no problem. Theres youtubers who live off the ipad pro series.
    This is one of those weird Microsoft devices that's priced high but doesnt perform well with anything other than windows applications.

  • @lavinieaaa801
    @lavinieaaa801 4 года назад

    I was thinking about getting a MacBook Pro and a iPad Pro it’s only $600 more than the surface. Would it be worth it or should I just stick to the surface

    • @RK-um9tu
      @RK-um9tu 3 года назад

      Only a fool buys two device when you can get one...

  • @mandesh2433
    @mandesh2433 5 лет назад +1

    Ipad pro has a significantly better camera. That is the same camera from iPhone XR. I have never been an Apple fan, but I am hugely impressed by their pro line up. Amidst all the bend gate issues, it is actually a compelling product for the price especially for college students. Please Apple, provide official mouse input in your next update, not the touch input with the mouse that you have right now.

  • @electra5974
    @electra5974 5 лет назад +1

    Nice video😛
    New subscriber🥳

  • @jedidiahsteele7847
    @jedidiahsteele7847 5 лет назад +1

    Great work!

  • @quetzacoatlx
    @quetzacoatlx 5 лет назад +4

    Now we know:
    Microsoft = oranges
    9:33

    • @iliquify
      @iliquify 5 лет назад

      Better than lemons

  • @kgthegent
    @kgthegent 5 лет назад

    If you could only have one accessory for iPad Pro (pencil vs smart folio), which one would you rather have??

  • @reallycarson
    @reallycarson 5 лет назад +1

    I think the surface pro x is an excellent device. Windows added ARM support a while ago and developers didn't take it seriously so Microsoft released a ARM surface pro so devs would take ARM more seriously.

  • @josephcomboy8818
    @josephcomboy8818 5 лет назад +4

    Bro thanks for the video.
    I wanna buy the Surface Pro X but I am from the Philippines. I wanna buy directly from Microsoft and it's only shipping to USA.

  • @saifsarhan9519
    @saifsarhan9519 5 лет назад

    Im buying the ipad pro 11 inch but i dont know if it will be worth it to buy the pen because i dont draw or take down notes.... Thanks!

    • @geromezapatero2619
      @geromezapatero2619 4 года назад

      i have the iPad Pro 12.9 but I don’t have the apple pencil

  • @givemespeed7557
    @givemespeed7557 4 года назад

    Noah is surface Pro X capable of heavy gaming like GTA 5 etc

    • @HydroSheep
      @HydroSheep 4 года назад

      Siddharth Rawat
      Nah

    • @givemespeed7557
      @givemespeed7557 4 года назад

      @@HydroSheep I am a medical college student should I buy iPad 2020 or surface X for notes

    • @HydroSheep
      @HydroSheep 4 года назад

      Siddharth Rawat
      Ipad

  • @greyfriar9008
    @greyfriar9008 5 лет назад +5

    Microsoft a e doing well with regard to hard wear so they really need to crank out a LOT more apps for their ecosystem.
    Once they wake up and do they will be a rival to Apple.

    • @jackgunn1480
      @jackgunn1480 5 лет назад

      Don't underestimate the value of legacy Windows apps which are not found in the store. Things like QuickBooks, Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, MS Office Suite, Steam, etc.

    • @herooflegend2602
      @herooflegend2602 4 года назад

      What about the surface pro 7? That has full Windows and 10th gen intel and up to 16gb ram

  • @SagaciousSilence
    @SagaciousSilence 5 лет назад +3

    The Surface is not a tablet: it’s a laptop but more expensive with touch screen capabilities.

    • @kleggas
      @kleggas 5 лет назад

      Laptop without keyboard? Huh.... pretty sure I used my surfaces as tablets 99% of the time. Ipad also has attachable keyboard, so ipad = laptop?

    • @kleggas
      @kleggas 5 лет назад

      Chelle true, and the surface keyboard, if you need it, feels like a laptop keyboard. Ipad is a big phone with an expensive keyboard accessory that is really akward and crap to type on

  • @tobiramirez4554
    @tobiramirez4554 5 лет назад

    Does it run Google apps