those who watched know what we saw.. Kobe had that same lethal dominance we saw in Jordan.. he's a victim of that "middle child" effect. its the current hyped up player vs the gold standard in Jordan. so all these Bron fans just try to make it about them and squeeze Kobe out. but Jordan an Kobe fans won't forget. he's still there. bron won't pass Kobe in my eyes.
It’s currently happening with Steph curry right now. Somehow they jumped bron right to Jordan. Now they’re talking curry v lebron. Somehow it’s like Kobe just never existed to these fools in the mainstream media. My Mt Rushmore is Jordan, Kareem, Russell and Kobe. It has been for about a decade and it likely always will be. There is nothing lebron can do at this stage of his career to jump Kobe. Nothing.
@@skap_attack he already has more mvp and fmvp, he’s more efficient, just as good a scorer if not better, just as good a defender in his prime, better playmaker/passer
Bro u are 100% right. I started watching basketball in Jordan’s Rookie year and was a fan of his but Kobe has been my favorite player of all time. I think his stats don’t really paint the picture. Unfortunately he came into the legue young and the lakers had a stacked roster with Nick the quick, Eddie jones and others plus shaq so as a rookie he didn’t see much playing time until they traded Eddie jones. And still then he was second to shaq because of how dominant shaq was against other centers and we know basketball is played by finding mis Matches and all that so shaq as the first option was always going to be. But once Kobe came into his own, there is no denying he was the reason too that the lakers won those tittles, he proved it by going for 2 more without shaq while shaq got carried by wade and Alonzo morning. In my eyes Kobe will always be above lebron anytime
i have kobe in my top 3 because of his skillset his footwork and how great he was in his prime also his 2009 ring and his 2010 when he droped 21 straight i think it was with an injured finger
@@AadiLakha it's not a good reason to make him #2 because he was so talented physically and mentally that he was able to take the best parts of MJ's game and incorporate that into his own resulting in 5 rings? Five. Rings.
@@skap_attackif this is good reasoning and logic to you, then this just shows that you’re a Kobe Bryant fanboy like the rest😂 and I’ll say it, HES OVERRATED.
@@skap_attack you should make A video how LeBron be trying to recruit and play with all the best players in the league and his fanboys claim he never had any help
@@bookieallen7448 funny you mention that. I am about to make a video public right now about him building that STACKED super team in Miami and his ensuing hilarious choke job in 2011 against the mavs. Going to post right now. I’m also working on an overall playoff piece comparing all the all time greats title runs-help they had, competition they played, etc.
Thank you! I’ve been meaning to freshen that video up some. Make it look and sound better. I’m currently ROASTING Lebron in an ongoing series. But when done with that I’m circling back around to praise Kobe. I have a couple of pieces planned on him. I did just put this one out but plan more: ruclips.net/video/ZckfHHYgQh8/видео.html
Awesome work, Kobe is my guy, and the these videos validate the things I've been saying for a very long time..the numbers dont lie..I have always been a Lakers fan, but not since the arrival of leflop..i loved your videos on him by the way.. i read in the comments, that you're doing a new updated version of Mamba..i look forward to that , but the disrespect is real and it bugs me to the core..that they try to place the flopper, with no midrange, no footwork, no signature move..poor free throw shooter, lose more then you win, with more talent, top 75 players, ahead of Kobe..and still he needs more help we hear this every year..smdh, im glad you're doing these videos to expose the lies..and like many of us in the comments who seem to be Kobe Fans, how in the world is loosing more finals then u won, put u in the conversation? It doesn't..there are so many other players better then the leflop who the media keeps pushing this narrative on us everyday its sickening..but keep up the great work...we love it..
I’ll never understand how those that have Jordan at One don’t have Kobe at Two All time… he is literally Mike incarnate. No one did a better job emulating Michael’s moves (of course, adding his own twists as well).
Exactly these people are just brain dead and don’t know basketball. when I was a kid I knew Kobe was that guy, real ballers can tell who the top dog is right away. Kobe was that guy, dominating and making the league look silly and taking and out scoring, hitting buzzer beaters like nothing, dropped 81 lol like what crack are people smoking not to have him behind Jordan. It’s Jordan/Kobe than everyone else they both played a beautiful form of basketball that became the meta. I remember emulating Kobe’s game with a twist of Dwayne wade and with a spice of Carmelo Anthony.
As a Laker fan since 11/68, I've seen them all. I loved Kobe. LOVED! Jerry West is a lot like Kobe in that both were intense no-smile destroyers. If I were a player in the NBA, I would be exactly like Kobe. WORK and DESTROY!
The amount of damage that JA Adande, Bill Plashke (Both very prominent LA Times writers at the time who later admitted to taking Shaq’s side, and trashing Kobe because Shaq treated them better) John Hollinger, and Bill Simmons did to Kobe and his reputation because of their personal issues can never be understated. Thank goodness players like Jordan and Bird came forward later to dispel their garbage.
You’re so right about this and the power the media has in influencing narratives with their bogus awards. Kobe with one league mvp. Preposterous. I think and can make an argument he should have had at least 3 and could have had as many as 4. But it’s a forgone conclusion he should have had 2. 2005-06 he averaged 35.4 points per game in a season where nightly scoring was 97 per game and pace was 90. He somehow won over half of his games and made the playoffs in a loaded western conference with Smush Parker, Brian Cooks and Chris Mhim/Kwame Brown in his starting lineup. Oh and he also was first team all defense that year. And finished fourth in mvp voting. Hilarious. Anyway imagine the difference in legacy conversation if it was 2 MVPs, or 3.
I remember that I was in middle school but I remember they were saying keep Shaq get rid of Kobe. Can you imagine what a disaster that would have been. And I'm not hating on Shaq I love the guy but he only had 1 more good (but not great 2000 prime Shaq) season. he was in the MVP race in 2005 but after that he was done. DWade carried that team to a championship Shaq was nowhere near the player he was when he was dominating on the Lakers during that 3-peat. thank goodness for Dr. Jerry Buss if they actually chose Shaq over Kobe that would have been catastrophic for the Lakers.
FACTS!!!! John Hollinger and Bill Simmons did more damage to Kobe than other "analysts." Can somebody remind me, what is Bill Simmons credentials when it comes to evaluating players other than being just a fan like the rest of us? ACTUAL coaches and GMs and players have almost all said Kobe was better. Bill Russell, of all people, attacked Simmons for his biased Kobe takes. Incredible, it takes ACTUAL legends to correct the folly of these talking head clowns. Again, what is Simmons experiential basis for evaluation? Was he a former scout? Former elite player? Former coach or coaching assistant? Like he's JUST a fan. Same thing with Hollinger. He's a fan with a statistics degree. PER has many BUMS ahead of legends and any stat that purports to be a SINGULAR metric of value in basketball is already fallacious. PER has its uses, sure, but lets not mistake the map for the ACTUAL terrain. Kobe was a MONSTER in his prime. Still the only player in professional basketball history to outscore an entire team by himself through 3 quarters (2006 vs Dallas - which won 60 games that year). Kobe > Lebron. Kobe top 2 imo.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270it wasn’t just Bill Simmons. The ridiculous takes on Kobe that you see on social media also originate from RUclipsrs like Bruce Blitz and his guys. They started the trend of Kobe being viewed as an inefficient shot taker who is overrated on defense by using other statistics. LeBron fans started using that formula for their Goat case using all those pointless advance stats
Kobe trained so hard that his body must have completely tired. If he was less stubborn as he is, maybe his career would be longer and without these injuries. Someone was missing to tell him that training all the time has its downsides too.
When the Achilles injury happened I remember being so pissed at Mike D’Antoni who was the Lakers coach because they were letting him run wild and play all those minutes. It was ridiculous
@@jdm2339 'No D' Antoni was a piece of crap at coaching and was worthless when he came to the Lakers! He pretty much had one of the best teams in the NBA with the Suns and NOT A DAMN THING to show for it!
Best video on RUclips! You just earned a subscriber. I already knew this information, but i'm just glad someone decided to make a video on it. Much respect.
Thank you 🙏. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and I’m glad there’s others out there that realize and appreciate the greatness of Kobe Bryant. He’s become extremely unappreciated as of late.
Nice video. Most people are too stupid to appreciate how good Kobe really is. Kobe played in the toughest and low scoring era (2000-2010) in NBA history.
My pleasure. Someone has to be out here for Kobe and repping him. Most underrated and disrespected player I have ever seen. Many thanks for watching and subscribing 🙏.
The fact Kobe is hated so much has a lot to do with media influence that man was great how he played how he scored was just different rip mamba rip Gigi
I can’t believe I just found out about your channel Scap Attack. I’ve been saying Kobe is underrated. Literally everything you put out is all factual. Kobe is number two after Jordan by a little. Keep up the awesome work.
Kobes career numbers and highlights need CONTEXT Kobe's career numbers 1) Take away his 1st two seasons (did not start) 2) Take away his last 3yrs (mostly injured) 15 season output is this Kobe Bryant averaged 27.4 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.1 assists in 1,089 games between the 1998-99 and 2012-13 seasons. 27.4 (making his PPG 3rd all time) 29,858 total points on 45.5% shooting This is a more accurate representation of his output Also most people forget Kobe's athletic PEAK in 2003 this was before his multiple knee surgeries the 2003 draft class never had to deal with this version of Kobe Kobe Bryant had a win percentage of .618 without Shaquille O'Neal in his career.
I’m so glad I found this channel because I agree with everything you’ve said about 10 videos in. Lol Sometimes it feels like I’m the only person in the entire world of fandoms that understands the concept of putting things in context. 🙏🏾
Absolutely! Mostly everything in sports require context if you want to actually compare players. If you just want to say “everyone is great”, fine. But if you want to legitimately compare, you need to go further than surface shit… I’m glad you found the channel too, and I’m very happy to have you! 🙏❤️
I wasn't always a huge fan of kobe but I watched him develop through his career and I genuinely think he's up there near Jordan and those two are way ahead of the rest.
Kobe was a special player, but Kobe had too much on his plate to highlight how good he was. He had to carry too much. If Kobe played with Kawhi Leonard his entire career he would have a Scottie like Jordan did.
"had to carry too much" 😂😂😂 OMG he only had bum teams from 2005-2007. stop acting like LA didn't surround him with a decent supporting cast. Fanboys everywhere.
@@YoCal71 after his last chip LA got dwight and nash. Unfortunately Kobe himself tore his achilles and wasn’t the same. Kobe was blessed for having a great organization unlike most.
The West was a tough conference in Kobe’s prime. I was a Mavs fan back then and we all hated that guy because he was terrifying and awesome. We even feared LAL between Shaq and Gasol because The Black Mamba had the power to take over any game.
I dont argue with people about Kobe. Other players I'll debate about but, with Kobe I legit saw at least 80-85% of his games over 20 years. I know what I saw. A gladiator. A skilled magican. An assassin. A stubborn leader. A top 5 player of all time.
Kobe has always been in my Top 5 players of all time. I always had him above Lebron...WAY above him! If you didn't see Kobe play, you won't understand. Lebron is a basic player compared to Kobe.
Kobe Bryant in his peak was a better scorer, defender and winner than Lebron ever was. He’s a top 3 scorer ever and one of the 5 best perimeter defenders. There weren’t more than 4 players better than him all time. There’s just not.
@@skap_attack Absolutely. I remember an article written about Lebron 7 years ago from an ESPN analyst who is no longer there (imagine that) that was sick and tired of the media blitz given to Lebron over Kobe. He went into great detail to make his point and even called Kevin Durant, at the time, a much better player than Lebron. Maybe that can be another video...KD vs Lebron.
@@wizmanballin8498 always looking for ideas. And I honestly don’t understand the consensus of Lebron over Kobe. I’ve watched the entirety of both of their careers and it’s not close. Kobe all day.
I'll say this. I was just a young lad at the time, I'm only 31yo right now woulda been 7 years old during Kobe's first title run in 2000. I'm too young to really remember watching Jordan. Watching the Lakers win 3 finals in a row is basically how I was introduced to the NBA. My family was never much for watching the regular season, but we habitually watched the playoffs. I may have only been a young lad, so take that for what it's worth... but I know who I was watching for in those games. My eyes were glued to Kobe. Maybe I was just a naive kid didn't know any better. But Kobe had me hooked. I think even at a young age I understood there was something different about the way Kobe approached the game. His will, his drive, his determination... Ironically, the same qualities I saw and admired in Kobe are the same reason I NEVER liked Lebron. Even from the very beginning I got the impression that there was something artificial about Lebron. He never had the same force of will as the greats who came before him. He was always entitled, from the moment he came into the league. That might be what bothered me the most about Lebron. He always acted like being the greatest is something the world owed him.
Man, Skap, you are the GOAT of this TRUTH my guy! Kobe is highly disrespected in basketball history, and it's truly sickening! All facts, can't be disputed! Top 2 Top 3 period! I have him behind Jordan at 2
Kobe was hated by the media because he did not have daily drama. He didn’t show up to press conferences making excuses for losses,he always took the responsibility for losses and never ever threw coaches under the bus. He had a work ethic 2nd to none. He didn’t advertise it, he didn’t claim he was the greatest of all time. He didn’t give the media anything to talk or write about, again on a daily basis. As great as he was he showed no signs of narcissism!
WTF are you talking about!? No drama!? Why do you think Shaq was chased out of LA!? Kobe was notorious for throwing coaches and teammates under the bus! Why do you think Phil called Kobe "uncoachable" and called him a "juvenile narcissist"!?
My favorite player was MJ because he was always so good. And then i got to watch him play on the same team as my favorite cartoons. The player I hated the most was Kobe Bryant because he was a legitimate threat to Jordan's throne. I never felt that way about Lebron James because he never seemed unstoppable to me. I used to wonder why they didn't just push him out the air like they did Blake Griffin😂 with his one move. I never seen him as that guy. I even thought it was a fair balance when he went to miami because i just never seen him as that guy, especially when you cry so much.
You don’t watch LeBron and you DEFINITELY don’t watch basketball. Also, complaining about fouls does NOT have anything to do with accolades or overall skill as a basketball player. 2009-2018 LeBron is somebody that you should’ve watched. He was better and far more athletic than Kobe.
Idc what anyone says mj is the goat then Kobe is right after him. They are both in their different realms with their skill sets and how they approached the game. There will truly never be anything ever like them.
Absolutely my pleasure. That’s why I make them lol. I am editing a different video at the moment, but once I’m done with this current one, I have a video about the greatest playoff performers. You can make a case Kobe’s playoff resume trumps everyone ever except Jordan and Russell. Stay tuned for that one sometime in July.
@@skap_attack ahh ill be interested in seeing that . But yea some troll kept using that tried ass argument saying "kobe was carried " so i shared this and quickly reminded him that shaq didn't win a damn thing until he played with kobe and overall doesn't even have a winning finals record without kobe. But hey what do we know right 🤣🤣🤣
@@dejon18 also Shaq’s greatness could only go so far-like Giannis today. He was a complete liability with the ball in his hands down the stretch of the fourth quarters because of his putrid ft shooting. Kobe was the guy with the ball in his hands making the winning plays in that title runs.
@@skap_attack right man thats why he couldn't win with guys like eddie jones nick van excel and penny Hardaway. Yea they were talented but they couldn't get it done against elite level teams in the playoffs downthe strech. Kobe (and dwayne wade) provided that for shaq
I’m working on it. It’s going to be a few different parts. Here’s the prelude to kick it off, in case you missed it: ruclips.net/video/Zk0RhHE8PQ4/видео.html
@@skap_attack This is going to be AWESOME man. We definitely need a true Kobe documentary on why he should be in the GOAT convo with MJ over Lebron or anyone else right now.
@@mylifeyourentertainment planning to do like 3 videos starting with one about the most difficult era that he played in. Then breaking down his preposterous playoff opposition. Then going to put it all together. In what will likely be my longest video to date. Hoping to keep it to 30 mins. 🙏❤️🐍
Agreed 100%. At least 3 and arguably could have had 4. Kobe was the anti Lebron when he played in his prime. While they do whatever they can to give Lebron as many awards as possible and promote him every chance they get, they actively hated on Kobe. Straight disrespectful.
@@skap_attack Glad its not just me who thinks Lebron is a cocky fool...lol Kobe was greatly under appreciated and by performance, determination, drive and overall skill. Unfortunatly theres always overrated players but this community knows whats up. This is facts right here! i see nothing special in Lebron. The dude brags then loses...
HAHA I have been getting that for MONTHS now. It’s one of the only reasons I left these older videos up with me on screen-to prove I am in fact, not Richard Jefferson 😂.
This video is even more important now than it was when it was made. The mainstream sports media has tried to rewrite history and present Kobe as a top 10 (normally 5 -10) at best. I saw a list where they had him ranked 14th of all time. Sick degenerates.
It’s absolutely PATHETIC. I’ve been addressing Kobe a lot on my channel as of late. I’ve posted about 3-4 videos in the last month because the lies need to end. I can see Kobe as high as 3 and as low as 7 or 8. He will always be on my Mount Rushmore personally. If you have him out of the top 10, there’s something wrong. It’s literally insane.
Kobe will always be my goat. I don't care what people say. The goat discussion is silly to begin with honestly. Cause most of those players named didn't face each other in their primes. But for me it will always be KB. The black mamba played like no other player on that list against competition no other faced. And I've been saying this forever. People don't know basketball like he did, and nobody loved it like he did. He's doesn't have the most titles, he wasn't the fastest or strongest player, but he is by far the most skilled with the ball in his hands. Kobe did things I never seen before or since. There was no defending him, and he would run back to guard the strongest players. So he is my goat. End of discussion.
I’m with you on all of this. While I have objectively dissected every all time greats case and recognize Jordan as THE GOAT, and also that Kareem’s total resume is undeniable…if we are going simply on MY eye test, Kobe is the greatest player I’ve ever seen. I started watching ball in 94. And I can say no one has reached peak Kobe’s heights in my opinion. Now. I didn’t see 87-93 Jordan. BUT I know he exists. Therefore that guy is on my top spot. Kobe has a realistic case above anyone else ever tho in my opinion.
That incident in Colorado literally killed his prime. If he did not had that black spot he would have one more ring (his mind wasn’t there in that 04 season) and a couple more MVPs 2006 and 2010 at least
I trust Kobe once did say 'pute in the east and see what happens '. Totally agree that most of his career, he had to fight through tough the West. this is well undervalued and most people miss. Mamba forever!
When Larry Bird....the greatest CELTIC of all time chose Kobe over LeBron... that's all I needed to hear to feel validated. Thank you for this fantastic video man; I'm upset I didn't find your channel sooner but here we are, and for good.
Well I’m pretty new to the platform too. I guess I joined 7 years ago, but only started making videos 2 years ago. And the vast majority of all my content is from the last 3 months. So you’re at a perfect place and time to come on board. I’m grateful to have you here! 🙏❤️
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Larry did say that - but he's not the kind of guy who would say he himself is the greatest celtic ever. Those of us who watch, know, study, and eat breathe and sleep the game to the letter know that Larry Legend ultimately holds that spot.
People don't realize that once Van Exel, Ced Ceballos and Eddie Jones were traded away. Kobe was more of an equal to Shaq, than a Robin to Shaq's Batman.
The only reason why i dont rank Kobe as the GOAT over MJ is MJ has no loses in the finals. He took what MJ did and perfected it in terms of basketball. That redeem team documentary should have been called "how kobe Bryant saved USA basketball." The moment Kobe retired was the moment basketball and the nba changed for the worse. We used to say there will never be another MJ but we saw the other MJ. There will truly never be another Kobe Bryant. He is the 2nd greatest basketball player to ever have lived and his presence and what he laid down and cemented into the game needs to be remembered and taught
I love this. Finally someone speaks out and tells the truth about Kobe's Greatness from an already mainstream defamatory narrative. Teams & their coaches feared Kobe while players cringed at LeBron's flops.
Mamba should have won at least one more MVP however injuries are a part of the game … besides most people when ranking Kobe think of his peak years anyway … what he did at the beginning and end of his career isn’t relevant to where they place him on any all time list. I think he is appropriately placed in the top 10 and second best SG of all time. I have yet to hear anyone question those two things ever
I am hearing mounting sentiment that he’s “barely” top 10. Or somewhere between 12-15. Which is outrageous. He’s closer to 2 than he is to 10 in my opinion. But that’s just me.
Thank you for making these videos man. It’s a sad day when sports media has turned into like the regular political news media where you have people with special interest lying. What’s even more sad is it seems like after we lost Kobe in that helicopter crash that cowards like Nick Wright have double down on his disrespect. Anyone that knows the game of basketball will tell you yeah LeBron’s the greatest stat stuff forever but there ain’t no way in hell anyone that knows basketball would pick prime LeBron James, over prime Kobe Bryant. And I like LeBron, but that man ain’t Kobe Bryant.
Got Kobe #4 in my all time list behind MJ, Lebron & Magic. But Kobe was the GOAT eye test. To me Kobe impress me more than even MJ watching highlights of him & things I remembered watching when I was younger. Kobe had underrated athleticism when he was younger too. Kobe really mastered the game
@@anthonycelestin3559 agreed on that. I personally also have Kobe 4 on my list, behind Jordan, Kareem and Russell. But the general consensus of him is he’s somewhere around 8-12. That’s a laughable claim and it makes him underrated.
@@skap_attack No offense to Bill Russell & Wilt, I don’t get how people still put them top 10. I got them #11 & #12 in my all time list. People put Russell & Wilt in their top 10 but never watched them play, theirs no real game footage of them other than the 1969 Finals & the rest of the footage of them is grainy footage. Competition wasn’t the best back then with the athleticism not being their & the league only having 8 teams. Russell & Wilt have inflated rebounding #s which they averaged 20+ rebounds due to guys not being able to shoot back then, guys shot a set shot instead of your normal jumpshot & missed a lot of shots which cause a high pace & guys like Russell & Wilt were able to collect a lot of boards. I respect what Russell did for racial equality & he has 11 rings but he averaged 15 on 44% without shooting jumpers, he shot a very low % with most of his shots being in the paint. As good as Wilt & Russell was, their era was so old it’s hard to put them up their like that, the game evolves too
@@anthonycelestin3559 we are living right now, in this very era, an era of inflated offensive production. The knicks and the lakers were the top 2 defensive rated teams in the NBA this year. The knicks allowed 104.7 points per game and the lakers allowed 106.8. When Kobe won his fourth title in 2008-09, the Indiana pacers allowed 106.2. They were ranked 28th that year in net defensive rating. In 2000-2001 when Kobe was averaging 29, 7 and 6 in the playoffs “getting carried” and the lakers won their 2nd of 3 straight titles, the teams they played in the playoffs that year allowed: 91, 95, 88 and 89 points per game during the regular season that year. The worst defensive team in the NBA that season allowed 101.5 points per game that year. That is 3 points lower than the best defensive team in the nba THIS year. There is no defense today. Everything is skewed. Kobe scored 35 a game in an 82 game season where league wide averages were 95 a night. With no spacing, low pacing etc. he would legitimately AVERAGE over 40 for a regular season today. And in the playoffs could EASILY average 40-45 for an entire playoff run. Comparing what Lebron James did in the playoffs from 2016 on to Kobe’s time is also not fair. Just like comparing quarterbacks today with all the rule change advantages they have with players in the 60 and 70s isn’t fair. Want to know what DOES always translate? How you specifically perform and how much you win in relation to the others in your era. Is Tom Brady’s numbers inflated over what, say Dan Marino’s were or could have been? Probably. But Marino played in the era he played in and won no Super Bowls. OBVIOUSLY a dude who wins 7 Super Bowls is the greatest ever. If it was THAT easy to win 11 titles in 13 year when Russell did it, others would have been dominating the era to a commensurate level. I will never knock someone’s resume when it has 11 titles in 13 years. I understand your points, but respectfully disagree. Wilt averaged 50 for an entire year. No one was doing that back then. Lebron averaged a triple double in a losing finals performance everyone goes crazy about. But we see it all the time now. Check what Russ Westbrook does these days. Luka Doncic. Same, with Dame and Durant. Hell Giannis, Trey young. These dudes are GOING OFF at rates that look historically excellent. Until you understand the context of the era they are doing it in. Many of these players tho, are still not translating that production to winning. Even Lebron with 4, that is 4 in 18 years. That is 4 in 10 chances. To me, I’ll take a guy with 11 in 13. Even if era was “easier” than you think today’s is.
Kobe is top 2 EVER. PERIOD. Oh and he shoots above Lebron in EFFICIENCY ON ALL FGS outside of 3 feet. Kobe > Bron. Kobe top 2 ever. Those who SAW know exactly why. MONSTER. STILL the ONLY player in professional basketball history (even WILT never did this) to OUTSCORE an entire basketball team by himself through 3 quarters (2006 vs Dallas). And he sat out the entire 4th quarter and part of the 2nd quarter! My GOAT. Him and MJ.
@@xaviervega468 Who cares? If you shoot below 36% outside of 3 feet from the rim you end up 4 - 6 in the Finals needing to be carried to rings by Wade, Ray Allen, Anthony Davis and Kyrie. I can name 10 no name NBA players with HIGHER CAREER eFG than Lebron. Are they, by your criteria, BETTER than LeExcuses? Only low IQ Bronsexuals fetishize FG% over WINNING. 😂😂😂🤡
Glad someone is talking about BASKETBALL FACTS THANK YOU 👍🏿
My pleasure 🙏 and many thanks to you for watching.
The fact he almost 3peated without shaq should really bring into question the notion Kobe needed Shaq
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaq needed Kobe..
@@Thupacshakur08they needed each other.
I feel like they would have beat Boston in the finals in 08 if Bynum was healthy, people also forget Ariza was out for the first couple of games.
@@lamarj8235 Why would that matter? This the great Kobe, i thought he did it all by himself!?
One of my favorite players a true Laker great and one of the best to ever play the game. He is surely missed
those who watched know what we saw.. Kobe had that same lethal dominance we saw in Jordan.. he's a victim of that "middle child" effect. its the current hyped up player vs the gold standard in Jordan. so all these Bron fans just try to make it about them and squeeze Kobe out. but Jordan an Kobe fans won't forget. he's still there. bron won't pass Kobe in my eyes.
It’s currently happening with Steph curry right now. Somehow they jumped bron right to Jordan. Now they’re talking curry v lebron. Somehow it’s like Kobe just never existed to these fools in the mainstream media. My Mt Rushmore is Jordan, Kareem, Russell and Kobe. It has been for about a decade and it likely always will be. There is nothing lebron can do at this stage of his career to jump Kobe. Nothing.
Facts
@@skap_attack he already has more mvp and fmvp, he’s more efficient, just as good a scorer if not better, just as good a defender in his prime, better playmaker/passer
Not really, 2xfmvp doesn't make any player dominant just cement that his a superstar.
Bro u are 100% right. I started watching basketball in Jordan’s Rookie year and was a fan of his but Kobe has been my favorite player of all time. I think his stats don’t really paint the picture. Unfortunately he came into the legue young and the lakers had a stacked roster with Nick the quick, Eddie jones and others plus shaq so as a rookie he didn’t see much playing time until they traded Eddie jones. And still then he was second to shaq because of how dominant shaq was against other centers and we know basketball is played by finding mis Matches and all that so shaq as the first option was always going to be. But once Kobe came into his own, there is no denying he was the reason too that the lakers won those tittles, he proved it by going for 2 more without shaq while shaq got carried by wade and Alonzo morning. In my eyes Kobe will always be above lebron anytime
The media hated Kobe so much, they only voted him for MVP once. That is just wrong on all levels!!!!!!!
One of the biggest crimes in basketball history is that Kob only had one mvp.
@@skap_attackFacts!! Thank you for exposing the LeCULT fanboys but be careful they come for anyone telling the truth about their overrated pos god
He got robbed in 2006, 2007(maybe),2009 and 2010
@@Dudeboy99-mw5zg How the voting is now. He should have won in 06
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The Greatest individual raw player I have ever witnessed besides MJ
I have him at #2 all time because he was so similar in style and mentality to MJ, the easy goat.
This is sound reasoning and logic.
if ur gonna rank kobe that high atleast have an actually good reason for it being similar to someone doesnt automatically make u top 2
i have kobe in my top 3 because of his skillset his footwork and how great he was in his prime also his 2009 ring and his 2010 when he droped 21 straight i think it was with an injured finger
@@AadiLakha it's not a good reason to make him #2 because he was so talented physically and mentally that he was able to take the best parts of MJ's game and incorporate that into his own resulting in 5 rings? Five. Rings.
@@skap_attackif this is good reasoning and logic to you, then this just shows that you’re a Kobe Bryant fanboy like the rest😂 and I’ll say it, HES OVERRATED.
This video isn't just gold, it's necessary! Thanks for educating the uneducated! 👏🏼👏🏼 Context & circumstance is a factor..
Top 5 all time great and The most skilled player of all time
Facts 🙏
@@skap_attack you should make A video how LeBron be trying to recruit and play with all the best players in the league and his fanboys claim he never had any help
@@bookieallen7448 funny you mention that. I am about to make a video public right now about him building that STACKED super team in Miami and his ensuing hilarious choke job in 2011 against the mavs. Going to post right now. I’m also working on an overall playoff piece comparing all the all time greats title runs-help they had, competition they played, etc.
Hakeem is the most skilled player of all time. That's why Kobe went to learn skills from Hakeem.
@@godonhere7446 Hakeem definitely has a claim to the title.
Excellent video! I love the fact that you give tangible evidence about your analysis.
Thank you! I’ve been meaning to freshen that video up some. Make it look and sound better. I’m currently ROASTING Lebron in an ongoing series. But when done with that I’m circling back around to praise Kobe. I have a couple of pieces planned on him. I did just put this one out but plan more:
ruclips.net/video/ZckfHHYgQh8/видео.html
Getting to the point where ya videos deserve a like off principle. Speak the truth of real NBA fans
Awesome work, Kobe is my guy, and the these videos validate the things I've been saying for a very long time..the numbers dont lie..I have always been a Lakers fan, but not since the arrival of leflop..i loved your videos on him by the way.. i read in the comments, that you're doing a new updated version of Mamba..i look forward to that , but the disrespect is real and it bugs me to the core..that they try to place the flopper, with no midrange, no footwork, no signature move..poor free throw shooter, lose more then you win, with more talent, top 75 players, ahead of Kobe..and still he needs more help we hear this every year..smdh, im glad you're doing these videos to expose the lies..and like many of us in the comments who seem to be Kobe Fans, how in the world is loosing more finals then u won, put u in the conversation? It doesn't..there are so many other players better then the leflop who the media keeps pushing this narrative on us everyday its sickening..but keep up the great work...we love it..
I’ll never understand how those that have Jordan at One don’t have Kobe at Two All time… he is literally Mike incarnate. No one did a better job emulating Michael’s moves (of course, adding his own twists as well).
I can accept Kobe somewhere between 2-6. Any lower is criminal.
Exactly these people are just brain dead and don’t know basketball. when I was a kid I knew Kobe was that guy, real ballers can tell who the top dog is right away. Kobe was that guy, dominating and making the league look silly and taking and out scoring, hitting buzzer beaters like nothing, dropped 81 lol like what crack are people smoking not to have him behind Jordan. It’s Jordan/Kobe than everyone else they both played a beautiful form of basketball that became the meta.
I remember emulating Kobe’s game with a twist of Dwayne wade and with a spice of Carmelo Anthony.
his friendship with Mike was deep too. saw him like an older brother
As a Laker fan since 11/68, I've seen them all. I loved Kobe. LOVED! Jerry West is a lot like Kobe in that both were intense no-smile destroyers. If I were a player in the NBA, I would be exactly like Kobe. WORK and DESTROY!
Damn I miss Kobe 😢
The amount of damage that JA Adande, Bill Plashke (Both very prominent LA Times writers at the time who later admitted to taking Shaq’s side, and trashing Kobe because Shaq treated them better) John Hollinger, and Bill Simmons did to Kobe and his reputation because of their personal issues can never be understated. Thank goodness players like Jordan and Bird came forward later to dispel their garbage.
You’re so right about this and the power the media has in influencing narratives with their bogus awards. Kobe with one league mvp. Preposterous. I think and can make an argument he should have had at least 3 and could have had as many as 4. But it’s a forgone conclusion he should have had 2. 2005-06 he averaged 35.4 points per game in a season where nightly scoring was 97 per game and pace was 90. He somehow won over half of his games and made the playoffs in a loaded western conference with Smush Parker, Brian Cooks and Chris Mhim/Kwame Brown in his starting lineup. Oh and he also was first team all defense that year. And finished fourth in mvp voting. Hilarious. Anyway imagine the difference in legacy conversation if it was 2 MVPs, or 3.
I remember that I was in middle school but I remember they were saying keep Shaq get rid of Kobe. Can you imagine what a disaster that would have been. And I'm not hating on Shaq I love the guy but he only had 1 more good (but not great 2000 prime Shaq) season. he was in the MVP race in 2005 but after that he was done. DWade carried that team to a championship Shaq was nowhere near the player he was when he was dominating on the Lakers during that 3-peat. thank goodness for Dr. Jerry Buss if they actually chose Shaq over Kobe that would have been catastrophic for the Lakers.
FACTS!!!! John Hollinger and Bill Simmons did more damage to Kobe than other "analysts." Can somebody remind me, what is Bill Simmons credentials when it comes to evaluating players other than being just a fan like the rest of us?
ACTUAL coaches and GMs and players have almost all said Kobe was better. Bill Russell, of all people, attacked Simmons for his biased Kobe takes. Incredible, it takes ACTUAL legends to correct the folly of these talking head clowns. Again, what is Simmons experiential basis for evaluation? Was he a former scout? Former elite player? Former coach or coaching assistant? Like he's JUST a fan.
Same thing with Hollinger. He's a fan with a statistics degree. PER has many BUMS ahead of legends and any stat that purports to be a SINGULAR metric of value in basketball is already fallacious. PER has its uses, sure, but lets not mistake the map for the ACTUAL terrain. Kobe was a MONSTER in his prime. Still the only player in professional basketball history to outscore an entire team by himself through 3 quarters (2006 vs Dallas - which won 60 games that year).
Kobe > Lebron. Kobe top 2 imo.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270hahahahah 🤡🤡🤡
Top 75 list 👇
#1 Mike 5 MVPs 6 Finals MVPs
#2 Bron 4 MVPs 4 Finals MVPs
#10 kobe 1 MVP 2 Finals MVPs (Shaq rings dont count)
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270it wasn’t just Bill Simmons. The ridiculous takes on Kobe that you see on social media also originate from RUclipsrs like Bruce Blitz and his guys. They started the trend of Kobe being viewed as an inefficient shot taker who is overrated on defense by using other statistics. LeBron fans started using that formula for their Goat case using all those pointless advance stats
How does this not have 300k views? How do you not have 500k subs? Great work
Kobe trained so hard that his body must have completely tired. If he was less stubborn as he is, maybe his career would be longer and without these injuries. Someone was missing to tell him that training all the time has its downsides too.
When the Achilles injury happened I remember being so pissed at Mike D’Antoni who was the Lakers coach because they were letting him run wild and play all those minutes. It was ridiculous
even tim grover never got to him
@@Serching4JerryGarcia same bro to this day I despise D'Antoni for this
@@jdm2339 'No D' Antoni was a piece of crap at coaching and was worthless when he came to the Lakers! He pretty much had one of the best teams in the NBA with the Suns and NOT A DAMN THING to show for it!
@@jdm2339D’Antoni fails to realize that the “all offense, no defense” approach never translate to championships.
Long live Kobe 👑
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Best video on RUclips! You just earned a subscriber. I already knew this information, but i'm just glad someone decided to make a video on it. Much respect.
Thank you 🙏. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and I’m glad there’s others out there that realize and appreciate the greatness of Kobe Bryant. He’s become extremely unappreciated as of late.
Nice video. Most people are too stupid to appreciate how good Kobe really is. Kobe played in the toughest and low scoring era (2000-2010) in NBA history.
most people are just dumb bro, ive sadly began to realize this
To those who grew up watching Kobe play he's not overrated at all. We understand his greatness and how deserving he is of his praise.
Thank u my brother for doing this and putting this into context he top 5 for sure and you have gained a subscriber rip bean
My pleasure. Someone has to be out here for Kobe and repping him. Most underrated and disrespected player I have ever seen. Many thanks for watching and subscribing 🙏.
@@skap_attack most skill d ever with the will to win and never made excuses
@@joshboy438 and an incredible determination and work ethic. Second to no one.
The fact Kobe is hated so much has a lot to do with media influence that man was great how he played how he scored was just different rip mamba rip Gigi
Kobe will forever be on the Mount Rushmore for anyone that watched him in his time. Gone but never forgotten 🙏❤️🐍
I can’t believe I just found out about your channel Scap Attack. I’ve been saying Kobe is underrated. Literally everything you put out is all factual. Kobe is number two after Jordan by a little. Keep up the awesome work.
RIP Kobe the great one
Thx so much for this info.Kobe my hero .I ms him so much .NBA will never b d same .
Not only the most underrated, but the media most Hated NBA player of all time.
Well you’re in the right place with this channel. Cause I have a ton more to do on Kobe.
Your videos are amazing brother! Keep speaking the truth!! Mamba out
Thank you and many thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you 🙏❤️
Mamba Forever 💜💯💪
Don't worry - there are legions of us who have Kobe as our goat.
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Bron couldn’t hold Kobe’s jock. RIP mamba.
Kobe Bryant is my all time favorite NBA player and he is a definite top five NBA player of all time. ❤❤❤❤
Kobe is in my top 2.
Kobe passed Jordan in scoring and also scored 81 in a game 2nd most all time and beat harder teams than Bron and mj
Kobes career numbers and highlights need CONTEXT
Kobe's career numbers
1) Take away his 1st two seasons (did not start)
2) Take away his last 3yrs (mostly injured)
15 season output is this
Kobe Bryant averaged 27.4 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.1 assists in 1,089 games between the 1998-99 and 2012-13 seasons.
27.4 (making his PPG 3rd all time) 29,858 total points on 45.5% shooting
This is a more accurate representation of his output
Also most people forget Kobe's athletic PEAK in 2003 this was before his multiple knee surgeries
the 2003 draft class never had to deal with this version of Kobe
Kobe Bryant had a win percentage of .618 without Shaquille O'Neal in his career.
*Kobe Bryant Stats 1999-2013*
27.4ppg, 5.7rb, 5.1ast, 1.6stl, 0.5blk, 3.2to
*Fg 45%, 3p 33% , Ft 84%*
0-3FT Shooting 63% (Layup)
*3-10FT Shooting 44%*
*10-16FT Shooting 43%*
*16-30FT Shooting 40%*
Shooting Distance - *14.1 feet*
Total Dunks - 780
*22 CAREER INJURIES*
*Kobe Bryant Stats Playoffs 1999-2012*
27.4ppg, 5.4rb, 5.1ast, 1.5stl, 0.7blk, 3.1to
*Fg 44%, 3p 33%, Ft 81%*
0-3FT Shooting 61% (Layup)
*3-10FT Shooting 46%*
*10-16FT Shooting 44%*
*16-30FT Shooting 40%*
Shooting Distance - *13.8 Feet*
Total Postseason Dunks - 117
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*5X* 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
2X FMVPS (32.4ppg & 28.6ppg)
1X MVP (Colorado Incident)(media award)
2x Scoring Titles (35.4ppg & 31.6ppg)
*4X Points Leader* (03,06,07,08)
*4X 40ppg month avg* (rare achievement)
*15X All NBA* (most by any guard)
*18X All Star Selections* (Most by any Guard)
*12X All Defensive Teams* (most by any guard
*11X All NBA First* (most by any guard)
*9X First All Defensive Teams* (tied for most by any guard)
*4X All Star Mvps* (most by a shooting guard)
*25 50+ win teams eliminated* (Most Ever)
*33,643 points* (most by Shooting Guard)
*8,378 free throws made* (most by shooting guard)
*6,306 assists* (most by shooting guard)
*7,047 rebounds* (most by shooting guard)
*22 Career Injuries*
#8🏆🏆🏆#24🏆🏆
Bro! I love your Kobe contents! Giving justice to my hero!
I’m so glad I found this channel because I agree with everything you’ve said about 10 videos in. Lol Sometimes it feels like I’m the only person in the entire world of fandoms that understands the concept of putting things in context. 🙏🏾
Absolutely! Mostly everything in sports require context if you want to actually compare players. If you just want to say “everyone is great”, fine. But if you want to legitimately compare, you need to go further than surface shit…
I’m glad you found the channel too, and I’m very happy to have you! 🙏❤️
I wasn't always a huge fan of kobe but I watched him develop through his career and I genuinely think he's up there near Jordan and those two are way ahead of the rest.
Couldn’t agree more.
Finally someone credible putting respek on Kobe’s legacy
MJ and Kobe = best ever 🔥💯🐐🐍
The true greatest. This content is golden. More honest than any mainstream take
Kobe was a special player, but Kobe had too much on his plate to highlight how good he was. He had to carry too much. If Kobe played with Kawhi Leonard his entire career he would have a Scottie like Jordan did.
If Kobe played with Kawhi his entire career he would have had a minimum of 6 rings in my opinion. Maybe more.
"had to carry too much" 😂😂😂 OMG he only had bum teams from 2005-2007. stop acting like LA didn't surround him with a decent supporting cast. Fanboys everywhere.
@@noahasongechwi7424 point still stands. Just 3 years.
@@eg7167 that's it what about AFTER the champs he had and those rookies he also had
@@YoCal71 after his last chip LA got dwight and nash. Unfortunately Kobe himself tore his achilles and wasn’t the same.
Kobe was blessed for having a great organization unlike most.
The West was a tough conference in Kobe’s prime. I was a Mavs fan back then and we all hated that guy because he was terrifying and awesome.
We even feared LAL between Shaq and Gasol because The Black Mamba had the power to take over any game.
I dont argue with people about Kobe. Other players I'll debate about but, with Kobe I legit saw at least 80-85% of his games over 20 years. I know what I saw. A gladiator. A skilled magican. An assassin. A stubborn leader. A top 5 player of all time.
Kobe has always been in my Top 5 players of all time. I always had him above Lebron...WAY above him! If you didn't see Kobe play, you won't understand. Lebron is a basic player compared to Kobe.
Kobe Bryant in his peak was a better scorer, defender and winner than Lebron ever was. He’s a top 3 scorer ever and one of the 5 best perimeter defenders. There weren’t more than 4 players better than him all time. There’s just not.
@@skap_attack Absolutely. I remember an article written about Lebron 7 years ago from an ESPN analyst who is no longer there (imagine that) that was sick and tired of the media blitz given to Lebron over Kobe. He went into great detail to make his point and even called Kevin Durant, at the time, a much better player than Lebron. Maybe that can be another video...KD vs Lebron.
@@wizmanballin8498 always looking for ideas. And I honestly don’t understand the consensus of Lebron over Kobe. I’ve watched the entirety of both of their careers and it’s not close. Kobe all day.
@@skap_attack Exactly! Subbed my friend.
@@wizmanballin8498 thanks for watching 🙏!
That’s my guy right there best basketball player ever!
I'll say this. I was just a young lad at the time, I'm only 31yo right now woulda been 7 years old during Kobe's first title run in 2000.
I'm too young to really remember watching Jordan. Watching the Lakers win 3 finals in a row is basically how I was introduced to the NBA. My family was never much for watching the regular season, but we habitually watched the playoffs.
I may have only been a young lad, so take that for what it's worth... but I know who I was watching for in those games. My eyes were glued to Kobe. Maybe I was just a naive kid didn't know any better. But Kobe had me hooked. I think even at a young age I understood there was something different about the way Kobe approached the game. His will, his drive, his determination...
Ironically, the same qualities I saw and admired in Kobe are the same reason I NEVER liked Lebron. Even from the very beginning I got the impression that there was something artificial about Lebron. He never had the same force of will as the greats who came before him. He was always entitled, from the moment he came into the league. That might be what bothered me the most about Lebron. He always acted like being the greatest is something the world owed him.
Well said. You sumed it up perfectly. Looking back as a kid I didn't like LeBron for those same reasons. However I was too young to quite explain it.
Skap you need to remake this with updated audio. This is good stuff!
I miss you kobe🥺🤍🐍🐐
Me too 🙏❤️🐍
Thank you for this video man. Excellent work! Crown Kobe
Man, Skap, you are the GOAT of this TRUTH my guy! Kobe is highly disrespected in basketball history, and it's truly sickening! All facts, can't be disputed! Top 2 Top 3 period! I have him behind Jordan at 2
Another great video. 💪🏾💪🏾
Kobe Bryant: my goat ever athlete. Goat ever mentality.
Damn I cant believe you're an actual human, I always thought you were AI voice generated because the commentary sounds too perfect xD
Kobe was hated by the media because he did not have daily drama. He didn’t show up to press conferences making excuses for losses,he always took the responsibility for losses and never ever threw coaches under the bus. He had a work ethic 2nd to none. He didn’t advertise it, he didn’t claim he was the greatest of all time. He didn’t give the media anything to talk or write about, again on a daily basis. As great as he was he showed no signs of narcissism!
WTF are you talking about!? No drama!? Why do you think Shaq was chased out of LA!? Kobe was notorious for throwing coaches and teammates under the bus! Why do you think Phil called Kobe "uncoachable" and called him a "juvenile narcissist"!?
My favorite player was MJ because he was always so good. And then i got to watch him play on the same team as my favorite cartoons. The player I hated the most was Kobe Bryant because he was a legitimate threat to Jordan's throne. I never felt that way about Lebron James because he never seemed unstoppable to me. I used to wonder why they didn't just push him out the air like they did Blake Griffin😂 with his one move. I never seen him as that guy. I even thought it was a fair balance when he went to miami because i just never seen him as that guy, especially when you cry so much.
he was unstopable you just werent paying attention i guess
You don’t watch LeBron and you DEFINITELY don’t watch basketball. Also, complaining about fouls does NOT have anything to do with accolades or overall skill as a basketball player. 2009-2018 LeBron is somebody that you should’ve watched. He was better and far more athletic than Kobe.
Idc what anyone says mj is the goat then Kobe is right after him. They are both in their different realms with their skill sets and how they approached the game. There will truly never be anything ever like them.
Love Kobe but taking away 6 seasons because you dont like the numbersare crazy
Top 5:
C - Kareem (hon. mention Hakeem)
PF - Duncan
SF - The Black Mamba
SG - MJ
PG - Magic
No. One. Is. Messing. With. This. Team.
I like this gotdamn team! 💪
Preach!!!!!
I had to share this vid to a hater thanks again for this. The disrespect of kobe is completely ridiculous
Absolutely my pleasure. That’s why I make them lol. I am editing a different video at the moment, but once I’m done with this current one, I have a video about the greatest playoff performers. You can make a case Kobe’s playoff resume trumps everyone ever except Jordan and Russell. Stay tuned for that one sometime in July.
@@skap_attack ahh ill be interested in seeing that . But yea some troll kept using that tried ass argument saying "kobe was carried " so i shared this and quickly reminded him that shaq didn't win a damn thing until he played with kobe and overall doesn't even have a winning finals record without kobe. But hey what do we know right 🤣🤣🤣
@@dejon18 such an annoying, lazy narrative used by people who likely weren’t born when those series were being played.
@@dejon18 also Shaq’s greatness could only go so far-like Giannis today. He was a complete liability with the ball in his hands down the stretch of the fourth quarters because of his putrid ft shooting. Kobe was the guy with the ball in his hands making the winning plays in that title runs.
@@skap_attack right man thats why he couldn't win with guys like eddie jones nick van excel and penny Hardaway. Yea they were talented but they couldn't get it done against elite level teams in the playoffs downthe strech. Kobe (and dwayne wade) provided that for shaq
This needs to be updated as a 2023 version. It would go viral
I’m working on it. It’s going to be a few different parts. Here’s the prelude to kick it off, in case you missed it:
ruclips.net/video/Zk0RhHE8PQ4/видео.html
@@skap_attack This is going to be AWESOME man. We definitely need a true Kobe documentary on why he should be in the GOAT convo with MJ over Lebron or anyone else right now.
@@mylifeyourentertainment planning to do like 3 videos starting with one about the most difficult era that he played in. Then breaking down his preposterous playoff opposition. Then going to put it all together. In what will likely be my longest video to date. Hoping to keep it to 30 mins. 🙏❤️🐍
Keep doing Gods work 🐍🐐
"There goes Kobe Bryant.. there goes basketball greatness"...😔Facts!
Kobe was the closest thing to mj.
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Kobe is #2 in league history! Next to MJ!!! And people keep picking on him!!
It’s disgusting the hate this man gets.
Kobe played in the western conference stacked with good teams. Case closed
Facts. Kobe faced more 50 win opponents in his playoff career than any other player in NBA history. He also beat more than anyone.
I never understand why he only won 1 mvp awards he at least should’ve had 3
Agreed 100%. At least 3 and arguably could have had 4. Kobe was the anti Lebron when he played in his prime. While they do whatever they can to give Lebron as many awards as possible and promote him every chance they get, they actively hated on Kobe. Straight disrespectful.
The mvp award is also a big media vote to where Kobe had a lot of hate from the media from his off the court issues. He easily could of had 5 mvps.
@@skap_attack Glad its not just me who thinks Lebron is a cocky fool...lol Kobe was greatly under appreciated and by performance, determination, drive and overall skill. Unfortunatly theres always overrated players but this community knows whats up. This is facts right here! i see nothing special in Lebron. The dude brags then loses...
@@skap_attack my God you're delusional. Ppl hate LeBron more than any other NBA player ever
I'm saying four. 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008. yes I'm saying he should have won over Duncan in 2003 y'all get to hatin on me now 😂😂😂😂
Another great video! Appreciate the work you put into this. 💯
Thank you so much for watching, and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos 🙏
If it wasn't for his first and last 3 years he could've been the all time scoring leader.
No cap before they showed this dudes face narrating the video I thought it was Richard Jefferson lol
HAHA I have been getting that for MONTHS now. It’s one of the only reasons I left these older videos up with me on screen-to prove I am in fact, not Richard Jefferson 😂.
Only player to win b2b fvps without a top 75 player
And he averaged 30 a game in consecutive playoffs while doing it, in a historically slow paced era. Very UNDERRATED.
This video is even more important now than it was when it was made. The mainstream sports media has tried to rewrite history and present Kobe as a top 10 (normally 5 -10) at best. I saw a list where they had him ranked 14th of all time. Sick degenerates.
It’s absolutely PATHETIC. I’ve been addressing Kobe a lot on my channel as of late. I’ve posted about 3-4 videos in the last month because the lies need to end. I can see Kobe as high as 3 and as low as 7 or 8. He will always be on my Mount Rushmore personally. If you have him out of the top 10, there’s something wrong. It’s literally insane.
3:54 I know this is a Kobe video, but Wilt was just an animal!!!!
Kobe will always be my goat. I don't care what people say. The goat discussion is silly to begin with honestly. Cause most of those players named didn't face each other in their primes. But for me it will always be KB. The black mamba played like no other player on that list against competition no other faced. And I've been saying this forever. People don't know basketball like he did, and nobody loved it like he did. He's doesn't have the most titles, he wasn't the fastest or strongest player, but he is by far the most skilled with the ball in his hands. Kobe did things I never seen before or since. There was no defending him, and he would run back to guard the strongest players. So he is my goat. End of discussion.
I’m with you on all of this. While I have objectively dissected every all time greats case and recognize Jordan as THE GOAT, and also that Kareem’s total resume is undeniable…if we are going simply on MY eye test, Kobe is the greatest player I’ve ever seen. I started watching ball in 94. And I can say no one has reached peak Kobe’s heights in my opinion. Now. I didn’t see 87-93 Jordan. BUT I know he exists. Therefore that guy is on my top spot. Kobe has a realistic case above anyone else ever tho in my opinion.
Severely underrated, because some events and things that derailed his career in the middle of his prime
Sooo true.
That incident in Colorado literally killed his prime. If he did not had that black spot he would have one more ring (his mind wasn’t there in that 04 season) and a couple more MVPs 2006 and 2010 at least
Keep preaching facts. I started watching in 1971 and Saw West and Wilt win a championship. Kobe is Top 5 all time easy
Man what a great video. Tv hosts are brainless. They have never considered once about how he spent 20 seasons at the lakers.
Dude can’t even spell lakers, are you forgetting he wanted a trade out of LA? It’s facts look it up.
Top 2
Great video your really knowledgeable
I trust Kobe once did say 'pute in the east and see what happens '. Totally agree that most of his career, he had to fight through tough the West. this is well undervalued and most people miss. Mamba forever!
I would put Duncan and the dream up there with underrated all time grates .
You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Well done.
Thank you and welcome on board 🙏. I have some other Kobe stuff on there you might like
We miss you Bean....💜💛
Just found your channel, and I think your takes are incredibly solid! ❤
Yes.
When Larry Bird....the greatest CELTIC of all time chose Kobe over LeBron... that's all I needed to hear to feel validated. Thank you for this fantastic video man; I'm upset I didn't find your channel sooner but here we are, and for good.
Well I’m pretty new to the platform too. I guess I joined 7 years ago, but only started making videos 2 years ago. And the vast majority of all my content is from the last 3 months. So you’re at a perfect place and time to come on board. I’m grateful to have you here! 🙏❤️
BILL RUSSELL IS THE GREATEST CELTIC OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And do you KNOW who said that?
Larry freaking Bird.
Just saying bro.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Larry did say that - but he's not the kind of guy who would say he himself is the greatest celtic ever. Those of us who watch, know, study, and eat breathe and sleep the game to the letter know that Larry Legend ultimately holds that spot.
he became underrated
He continues to grow more and more towards that direction.
Kobe and Jordan are 1A and 1B. Nobody is above either
Kobe will always be my MJ
10:16 he saying that like it’s farfetched
People don't realize that once Van Exel, Ced Ceballos and Eddie Jones were traded away. Kobe was more of an equal to Shaq, than a Robin to Shaq's Batman.
Straight FACTS
The only reason why i dont rank Kobe as the GOAT over MJ is MJ has no loses in the finals. He took what MJ did and perfected it in terms of basketball. That redeem team documentary should have been called "how kobe Bryant saved USA basketball." The moment Kobe retired was the moment basketball and the nba changed for the worse. We used to say there will never be another MJ but we saw the other MJ. There will truly never be another Kobe Bryant. He is the 2nd greatest basketball player to ever have lived and his presence and what he laid down and cemented into the game needs to be remembered and taught
I love this. Finally someone speaks out and tells the truth about Kobe's Greatness from an already mainstream defamatory narrative. Teams & their coaches feared Kobe while players cringed at LeBron's flops.
Mamba should have won at least one more MVP however injuries are a part of the game … besides most people when ranking Kobe think of his peak years anyway … what he did at the beginning and end of his career isn’t relevant to where they place him on any all time list. I think he is appropriately placed in the top 10 and second best SG of all time. I have yet to hear anyone question those two things ever
I am hearing mounting sentiment that he’s “barely” top 10. Or somewhere between 12-15. Which is outrageous. He’s closer to 2 than he is to 10 in my opinion. But that’s just me.
Thank you for making these videos man. It’s a sad day when sports media has turned into like the regular political news media where you have people with special interest lying. What’s even more sad is it seems like after we lost Kobe in that helicopter crash that cowards like Nick Wright have double down on his disrespect. Anyone that knows the game of basketball will tell you yeah LeBron’s the greatest stat stuff forever but there ain’t no way in hell anyone that knows basketball would pick prime LeBron James, over prime Kobe Bryant. And I like LeBron, but that man ain’t Kobe Bryant.
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WAY closer than anything else we’ve seen since Jordan and arguably before Jordan. He was never appreciated enough.
Got Kobe #4 in my all time list behind MJ, Lebron & Magic. But Kobe was the GOAT eye test. To me Kobe impress me more than even MJ watching highlights of him & things I remembered watching when I was younger. Kobe had underrated athleticism when he was younger too. Kobe really mastered the game
@@anthonycelestin3559 agreed on that. I personally also have Kobe 4 on my list, behind Jordan, Kareem and Russell. But the general consensus of him is he’s somewhere around 8-12. That’s a laughable claim and it makes him underrated.
@@skap_attack No offense to Bill Russell & Wilt, I don’t get how people still put them top 10. I got them #11 & #12 in my all time list. People put Russell & Wilt in their top 10 but never watched them play, theirs no real game footage of them other than the 1969 Finals & the rest of the footage of them is grainy footage.
Competition wasn’t the best back then with the athleticism not being their & the league only having 8 teams. Russell & Wilt have inflated rebounding #s which they averaged 20+ rebounds due to guys not being able to shoot back then, guys shot a set shot instead of your normal jumpshot & missed a lot of shots which cause a high pace & guys like Russell & Wilt were able to collect a lot of boards.
I respect what Russell did for racial equality & he has 11 rings but he averaged 15 on 44% without shooting jumpers, he shot a very low % with most of his shots being in the paint. As good as Wilt & Russell was, their era was so old it’s hard to put them up their like that, the game evolves too
@@anthonycelestin3559 we are living right now, in this very era, an era of inflated offensive production. The knicks and the lakers were the top 2 defensive rated teams in the NBA this year. The knicks allowed 104.7 points per game and the lakers allowed 106.8. When Kobe won his fourth title in 2008-09, the Indiana pacers allowed 106.2. They were ranked 28th that year in net defensive rating. In 2000-2001 when Kobe was averaging 29, 7 and 6 in the playoffs “getting carried” and the lakers won their 2nd of 3 straight titles, the teams they played in the playoffs that year allowed: 91, 95, 88 and 89 points per game during the regular season that year. The worst defensive team in the NBA that season allowed 101.5 points per game that year. That is 3 points lower than the best defensive team in the nba THIS year. There is no defense today. Everything is skewed. Kobe scored 35 a game in an 82 game season where league wide averages were 95 a night. With no spacing, low pacing etc. he would legitimately AVERAGE over 40 for a regular season today. And in the playoffs could EASILY average 40-45 for an entire playoff run. Comparing what Lebron James did in the playoffs from 2016 on to Kobe’s time is also not fair. Just like comparing quarterbacks today with all the rule change advantages they have with players in the 60 and 70s isn’t fair. Want to know what DOES always translate? How you specifically perform and how much you win in relation to the others in your era. Is Tom Brady’s numbers inflated over what, say Dan Marino’s were or could have been? Probably. But Marino played in the era he played in and won no Super Bowls. OBVIOUSLY a dude who wins 7 Super Bowls is the greatest ever. If it was THAT easy to win 11 titles in 13 year when Russell did it, others would have been dominating the era to a commensurate level. I will never knock someone’s resume when it has 11 titles in 13 years. I understand your points, but respectfully disagree. Wilt averaged 50 for an entire year. No one was doing that back then. Lebron averaged a triple double in a losing finals performance everyone goes crazy about. But we see it all the time now. Check what Russ Westbrook does these days. Luka Doncic. Same, with Dame and Durant. Hell Giannis, Trey young. These dudes are GOING OFF at rates that look historically excellent. Until you understand the context of the era they are doing it in. Many of these players tho, are still not translating that production to winning. Even Lebron with 4, that is 4 in 18 years. That is 4 in 10 chances. To me, I’ll take a guy with 11 in 13. Even if era was “easier” than you think today’s is.
Kobe has 26 50 point games. He also could of had 10 60 point games. He scored 50 points in 3 quarters and sat out the 4th in 4 games.
Kobe is top 2 EVER. PERIOD. Oh and he shoots above Lebron in EFFICIENCY ON ALL FGS outside of 3 feet. Kobe > Bron.
Kobe top 2 ever. Those who SAW know exactly why. MONSTER.
STILL the ONLY player in professional basketball history (even WILT never did this) to OUTSCORE an entire basketball team by himself through 3 quarters (2006 vs Dallas). And he sat out the entire 4th quarter and part of the 2nd quarter!
My GOAT. Him and MJ.
And yet Lebron's TS is still better.
@@xaviervega468 Who cares?
If you shoot below 36% outside of 3 feet from the rim you end up 4 - 6 in the Finals needing to be carried to rings by Wade, Ray Allen, Anthony Davis and Kyrie.
I can name 10 no name NBA players with HIGHER CAREER eFG than Lebron.
Are they, by your criteria, BETTER than LeExcuses?
Only low IQ Bronsexuals fetishize FG% over WINNING. 😂😂😂🤡
Nice vid Skap. Good work.
🙏❤️ an old one of mine. My video production has come a long way since that one lol.