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Atomic DRZ 1/28 RWD Drift Budget Electronics
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2019
- Cheap and cheerful electronics for DRZ.
I want to do this video before I upgrade the motor to Atomic 3500KV
CC subtitles available for English, Thai.
I didn't put music in this video because I want you to listen to how the motor sound and how I control the throttle.
Links:
DRZ with electronics
www.miracle-mar...
www.rcmart.com/...
DRZ chassis only
www.miracle-mar...
www.rcmart.com/...
Servo GENING D561MG: goo.gl/DsrqK5
Gyro Slidelogy: www.rcmart.com/...
ESC: goo.gl/AYyirD
Programming Card: goo.gl/ebVAJX
Motor Surpass Hobby 1410 6000KV: search "surpass hobby 1410" on ebay.
#DRZ #RWD #Drift
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Just want to put this out before I upgrade the motor to Atomic 3500KV.
Time Stamps
Electronics: 0:10
Test Drive: 2:08
I like that car, nice body too 👍
i love my 3500kv atomic. haven't even used my surpass 7000kv yet, EPA on the 3500 is set below 40 for me on tile, plenty of power in this little thing
@@typexfantasy Put it in yesterday and wow! It's butter smooth with plenty of power. It make me question how much power this budget 6000KV motor really has because with Atomic's 3500KV I also have to limit the throttle to less than 50%.
Very good skills. Thanks for sharing!
Hey, nice work!
Can you make a video where you upgrade the 989 awd for drift? I mean a full video where you describe every necessary step of the mods. With actual links where to buy.
Searching such a vid for a long time, in your current videos there are a lot of questions left.
Greets
This one ruclips.net/video/zB3pUN9XiSw/видео.html
hey beaver just gotta thank you again for help with DRZ
My pleasure. Have fun!
Nice tutorial vid bro. Thank's
Now that's some mini Drifting
Nice drifting bro..! I am still on the fence... do you think this drifts the best out of all your 1/28 scale? close to a 1:10 scale? Nice switch backs and info about the servo upgrade.! Will be waiting for the 3500kv motor update! cheers!
Well, it's the only RWD that's available right now so there's no competition. Still, I fiddled with front track a bit and it's the best RWD I have right now. It's great to drive with minimal effort, that's for sure. I don't have 1/10 RWD to compare but from what I talked to people who run both they said it drives the same as 1/10. I've seen video DRZ running tandem with 1/10 too.
Hi Timz. Why dont you make mini z drift video anymore ?
hello the sinohobby receiver with gyroscope obviously connected on the screen can be used in this way you can save some space
As I mention earlier, from my past experience internal gyro isn't as good as dedicated unit for drifting. Still, I might get a new generation either Flysky FS-BS3 or Radiolink R7FG to see how they work compare to dedicated drift unit.
Also Sinohobby? They don't make receiver for Radiolink though. The only thing they make with internal gyro is the whole board for TRQ1/Rage/Q1/DIY.
@@BeaversHobby I want to combine gyro gc301 with the sinohobby receiver to make up space do you think it can be done?
@@andreamaggi3233 Yes, of course. It can be done.
I've bought this chassis with exactly the same electronics, except the Gyro. Now I have a big problem with drag brake. How can I solve it? I used prog card to set drag brake to zero. But it's still there.
Drag brake on this ESC is off as standard. Have you checked the gear mesh and drive train? You should be able to roll it when it's not turned on. Otherwise drivetrain is binding.
hi beaver, i got a question what are the things that i have to do with the XC-10A esc? i got it since it was way cheaper.
You'll need the programming card to set the cut-off voltage and tune some parameters like decreasing the timing so it won't stutter as much in the beginning.
Hi Beaver, just wondering what cable size (awg) is suitable for surpass hobby 1410 motor?
20 or 22AWG. I use 20, it's a bit thick but it works and looks nice on the car.
@@BeaversHobbythank you
@@jeffrytirta My pleasure.
First of all a big thanks for the great videos you make.
I'm planning to build my first ever drift car, just to use it at home for fun, and was thinking about the mini-q but, just realized that there aren't many spare parts available. Due to this I'm seriously considering the atomic DRZ, it's more expensive but looks like there shouldn't be any issues with spare parts or upgrades. I have a few questions from a drifting noob:
-1: do you recommend the car without electronics plus the "cheap" electronics or is it better the full combo from atomic (car+esc+gyro+servo)
-2: what 3500kv motor do you recommend (if its cheap would be great ;p) I want to drift at slow speeds in reduced areas so don't need to go very fast
-3 I have a hobbyking hk-gt2b 3channes transmitter, should I have any problems to use it in this car with the hobbyking 3channel receiver?
-4 and last ;) which wheels and tires do you recommend (again, I'm a noob)? I like the ones you use from the kiosho mini-z, should those perform ok (they recommend 0 to -0,5 offset rims and I think those are -1,5)
Sorry to bother you with so many questions.
Thank you again for your help!! You have an amazing channel!!
1. If you don't mind gyro being a bit big this cheap set is pretty much on part with the Atomic. Smoothness of the motor is the difference but everything is within your control for sure.
2. Go for the Atomic, it's the only affordable 3500KV motor but I got it and soon realize it's really powerful and in the end I set the throttle limit just like what I have with the Surpass Hobby 6000KV. Again, difference being Atomic 3500KV is super smooth and power delivery is a bit quicker. The downside is you have to use it with Atomic electronics to ensure ESC has enough power.
3. No problem at all. I actually only 2 channels because I don't want to accidentally tough gyro gain and only adjust it with on-unit dial.
4. 1-1.5mm offset is good for drifting and also looks good with regular body. What you see in this video is 1mm offset from RC-Aurora, material is Delrin and they are super strong. Which brand to get depends where you buy the car. If you buy it from Atomic website then get AMZ wheels with it will save you shipping. Otherwise Mini-Z wheels are good, RC-Aurora ppm-rcracing.com are good and GL wheels are great and the coolest of all (but shipping is very expensive) gl-racing.com/store/awd-parts-c-1/ . Tyres are included in the kit, all narrow and they are already good gor RWD drift.
Also, no problem with long questions. Just ask if you want anything more.
Thank you answering so quickly!
I think that I will go for the kit with the electronics as it looks a bit more tidy.
I can't find the motor in the webs I want to buy the car (they are out of stock) and in my country dealer it costs 40€, so may go for the surpass 6000kv motor you also suggested.
Two more questions (sorry again):
Do I need a card to set up the gyro? I have experience with helicopter gyros only.
Do you mean wheels with positive offset or negative, I can also see different sizes, the correct ones are 8,5?
And what is the approximate size of the battery?
Thank you again!!
@@Alvaropiloto You don't need the card to setup gyro. There's only one dial you can adjust by flat screwdriver on the unit. But you can use programming card to setup ESC. It's not necessary since stock setup works really well already. The wheel offset for Mini-Z AWD has only one side and it always portrayed in positive but I think compare to real car it's negative. I mean the more number the more it sticks out.
Battery size is up to 16mm x 15mm x 46mm. I use Giant Power 300mAh because it's easy to get in and out.
Beaver's Hobby thanks again for the quick answers!! You really helped me!! Will order everything soon.
Thanks again my friend!!!
@@Alvaropiloto My pleasure.
if i have a mr03 and a mr020 can i used the electronics from those cars into the drz?
Unfortunately, no. Mini-Z use proprietary electronics that you can't easily transfer to a kit car with standard electronics.
Hi Beaver's Hobby: For a beginner who wants to learn drifting, would you recommend Atomic DRZ or Kyosho MA030? I am currently learning on Kyosho MA020 with FOW and rear fixed diff, I can drift a circle but have a hard time drift around a fixed target. Looks to me AWD drifting is like sliding where as RWD drifting seems more precise with front wheels always pointing at the direction. Would you agree RWD drifting is easier and more precise?
You probably find it strange and more sliding because you don't have to counter steer much. That's how AWD drifting is and it's far easier than RWD. RWD is harder, slower but more elegant and looks like real car.
Mini-Z are harder to drift than other cars in general because they don't have much steering angle. But with practice you can drift very precisely. Try changing the springs to front soft and rear hard. They'll make the car easier to initiate drift and easier to hold the slide. Don't go too crazy with the throttle, keep feeding it gently to maintain the slide.
If you want to get a new car I suggest either Atomic DRZ or Atomic AMZ. DRZ if you want to drift like a real car but keep in mind that this is slower than AWD and also much more challenging (and more rewarding). AMZ if you want to have fun sliding precisely and easily.
Hi mister beaver. Please help a newcomer out. Got the gld what do I need to get it working with my fs gt5? Much appreciated
It'll work with any radio. You just need to plug the components in correctly. Gyro to channel 1, ESC to channel 2 and steering servo to gyro. If you wish to remotely control the gyro gain using a dial, set channel 3 to VR on the transmitter then plug the gyro cable with 1 wire to channel 3.
Can you make a simple video like this for wltoys K969?
I have. Right now there are 3 episodes of modding WLtoys to RWD drift.
ruclips.net/video/iFoMwQqWnlU/видео.html
Great info 👍🏽
If a person starting with the drifting hobby what is your preference?
Kyosho or Atomic 🏎🕹
I have a 10yr old nephew that wants 1& later on modify himself
Subscribed ✌️😎
Kyosho is easy to start because you don't have to build anything but Atomic is better car with better performance buy you'll have to build it yourself.
Atomic is a good car to learn how to do RC properly though since it's in modular seperating between servo, ESC, receiver, etc.
I personally much prefer Atomic but can't denied that Kyosho cars are very easy to get in to the hobby and very easy to drive.
Cool videos..and I wish I would've just started with one of these! So I have a few questions and maybe you can help.. I have a 1/10 hpi drift car but I'm really researching a drz to use indoors. Saving money is important so every little bit helps. Would I be able to use the transmitter and receiver from my HPI in this? Do you really need the gyro? I'm already set up for NIMH batteries and frankly I don't really wanna switch to lipo. It looked like the ESC you got was able to do both correct? Like maybe the 4.8 volt mini's.. I emailed atomic and they said their cars would only do lipo because that's what the battery holder was meant for? I already have a charger for NIMH, radio/receiver, so whatever money I could save would be nice. I guess if it won't work then there's not much I can do! Any help is appreciated, thanks!
You can use any 2.4 GHz system in this car.
However it depends on the size of your receiver. If... say, 2x3cm diameter and the height is not more than 1.5cm, then it should fit. You'll also need to take it out of the case and flatten the pins. From my past experience 2.4GHz receiver from Sprint 2 is pretty big and won't fit.
For the gyro, yes, you need it for RWD car.
As for the battery, you don't have a choice but to switch to lipo for small cars these stuffs runs on 7.4V. Nimh is too big and heavy. However there're Mini-Z that uses AAA (I'll talk about later). Small lipo is not expensive but shipping costs a lot (especially here in Europe) also charger can rack up the cost so I understand your concern.
Actually for someone who don't want spend more for the electronics, take a look at WLtoys K989 or Mini-Q Q7. They come with all the battery and charger you need. Since you already have transmitter you can buy Mini-Q Q7 brushless ARR and use your own transmitter.
But if you want a RWD car, it's going to be expensive if you don't already have a bit of modern equipments.
For all in one package you can look at the Mini-Z AWD. Right now it's on discount so it's probably around $180 complete package in RCmart.com .
It uses nimh AAA battery so you can keep using your old charger.
Thanks, I'll check those out
What pinion gear size are you using? Is it compatible with pinion gears from mini-z? Waiting for your next video on XRX DPA 😁
The gear is 64p so it's not compatible with Mini-Z. I use stock 19T that came with the kit.
I'll try to get XRX... eventually.
Love it.
DRZ V2 please review,thanks
I've already reserved a GL Racing GLD so that will come first.
As for DRZ v2 I don't really plan to get it at this time.
From what I see people are already getting the delivery and the quality control is as usual, missing parts.
Okay thanks 🙂
What remote and receiver are compatible with this car ? I have a koyosho ex6-r will I be able to use a koyosho receiver on this build and use my controller ?
This is a standard RC car, just smaller so you can use any transmitter & receiver you like as long as they use standard 3 pin system.
Kyosho EX6-R also works with 3rd party ASF receiver from DasMikro so yes, you can use it. Here's the receiver. bit.ly/3h0awEO
Nice drifting and build! Can you recommend a good, budget pistol grip controller and transmitter?
I highly recommend Radiolink RC4GS. It has everything you'll ever need. bit.ly/2WSjb0G
However if you just want something that works, DumboRC X6 is good. It doesn't have a screen so it's a bit difficult to adjust the settings. bit.ly/2YMsFfR
@@BeaversHobby Thanks! Do I still need the gyro if the DRZ already comes with one? Also, have you tried putting grip/touring tires (not for drifting) on the DRZ?
@@andaia2 No, the gyro that comes with the kit is already enough. It's actually better than some of what you can buy separately too.
Using normal tyres on DRZ is nothing strange, it'll just turn back to Atomic AMR with weaker front suspension (DRZ is based on AMR as I mentioned in my review ruclips.net/video/LXy_h_yoqy0/видео.html ). I mean it drives OK but I have locked diff so it doesn't take a corner well unless I go back to open it. (It comes with gear diff but I locked it for drifting.) The massive steering angle is a bit of a problem but reduce it via EPA on the transmitter and if your servo is good enough you won't even have to change the steering system to have touring car. But really, if you wish to turn it to touring car, just replace the sliding rack with standard servo horn and connect the knuckles directly to servo. You'll have more direct and precise steering.
is 3500kv better than 6000kv for drifting?
It depends on tour track size. For small track under 3x3m 3500KV is nore manageable. For larger and long sweeping corners, 5600KV or 6000KV is better.
Where did you buy the wheels and tires ?
Wheels: ppm-rcracing.com/categories/RC%252dAurora-racing/Rims/ Choose offset that you want. What I have in this video are front narrow 1° (Gray) and rear wide 1° (Gray).
Tyres: Contact DS Racing at officialdsracing@gmail.com or facebook.com/DSracingthailand/
Ask them for LF-4 because it's a bit better than LF-3 in this video in general.
ของผมesc มันมีเสียงตอนเสียบแบตพอกดที่รีโมทเเล้วมอเตอร์ไม่หมุนเลยมันเกิดจากอะไรครับ มอเตอร์หรือ esc. ทิ้งไว้เกือบ2ปี
ลองดูทริมที่รีโมทก่อนครับ แล้วก็ถ้าคาลิเบรต ESC ได้ก็ลองทำดู ถ้าเป็นตัวเดียวกับในคลิปนี้(Xstar 10A) ลองปรับทริมคันเร่ง 0 แล้ว reverse ช่อง 2 หรือคันเร่งดู
ถ้าไม่ได้น่าจะเสียแล้วล่ะครับ
@@BeaversHobby เสียนี้หมายถึง esc หรือ มอเตอร์ครับ
@@user-ev2jy5ih4k ESC ครับ มอเตอร์เสียยากมาก ถ้าไม่ได้ทำสายไฟหรือขั้วขาด
@@BeaversHobby ผมไม่ได้เล่นมาเกือบจะ 2 ปี เลยไม่รู้อันไหนพัง
@@user-ev2jy5ih4k ถ้ามีชุดไฟอื่นให้ลองก็จะช่วยได้เยอะล่ะครับ เดี๋ยวนี้ของราคาลดลงพอสมควร แบบดี ๆ ก็ราคาไม่โหดมากแล้ว ลองดู ESC ของ Cube ดูก็ได้ครับ
Which motor is the best for rwd drift in your opinion?
The motor spec is relative to many things like the tyres, speed you want to drift, surface type and size of the track. Good starting point is 3500KV from Atomic. It provides good power and not too fast to learn to drift. It also has enough power so you can gear it up if you want more speed in the future. Also it's the smoothest motor I've every tried.
Thanks man
Unable to find the d561mg. Can you recommend another servo?
Atomic metal gear servo is roughly the same price as Gening too. www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_74_1024&products_id=14225
The other servo you can use is CYS S0005 if you don't mind plastic gear. bit.ly/32olr2x
Apart from these, other standard 5g should work too.
@@BeaversHobby thanks! Found a good one. For the ESC, going to use the hobbyking 10a similar to what you're utilizing. Trying to reduce my need to solder. Recommend any pre 3.5mm soldered motors?
@@tak3c0ver13 Atomic has pre-soldered motors but they use weird Molex plug (as seen in my review) so that's probably not what you want because you'll have to use Atomic ESC for that plug. If you can buy from Hobbyking check out Mini-Q or Turnigy TZ4 for the brushless ESC and motor, they come with plugs for each other. Otherwise, you'll have to do soldering one way or the other. Scorpion 1410 has wires but it uses banana 2mm. Surpass 1410 and Rocket come with terminals so you'll have to solder the wires from Hobbyking 10A ESC to the motor's terminal.
This car wont fit a normal mini servo right?
All the 5g servo will fit. AFRC, the one from WLtoys, all of it.
quanphongrc.vn/ct/may-bay-dieu-khien/530/servo-emax-ma-es08ma-ii-servo-emax-nhong-dong.html
I bought this servo and it cant fit
@@hietrn Unfortunately that one is not a 5g servo. It's the size of 9g which is bigger. This is the one you need or look at the dimensions and find something in this size. bit.ly/38sCLr2
It's out of stock but you can search for it somewhere else.
@@BeaversHobby ah yes i get it now, thanks for your replies and keep up the good works. I really enjoy your videos
@@BeaversHobby one more question, will k989 servo fit? Because compare to the one you give me as a reference servo, the k989 servo in the spec sheet is a littbe bit taller
Is there a good place to find wheels and tires? Recommended offset for wheels? Tire sizes? Ty!
Recommended offset is 1-1.5.
Tyres size is standard Mini-Z drift tyres.
If you want Mini-Z original wheels head to banzaihobby.com .
What I use in this video is RC Aurora from ppm-rcracing.com/categories/RC%252dAurora-racing/Rims/
The other good wheel is GL but shipping is expensive gl-racing.com/store/awd-parts-c-1/
As for the tyres, you can contaqct DSRacing directly facebook.com/DSracingthailand/
Or wait until they're back in stock at Atomic website www.miracle-mart.com/store/
Hi I really wanted to build this but noticed that the servo is discontinued now. Is there any other servo that would work?
This one. bit.ly/2PfUtWJ
It's a bit shorter than Atomic's as well so you'll have more room for battery.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks! For future reference, what do you look for when searching for a servo for your chassis? And does it matter how many splines it has?
@@extremecaliber2662 It's standard 5g, I got all the same spline in this size though so that shouldn't be a problem.
@@BeaversHobby Ok thanks, lastly, since I don't have a transmitter, I was going to get the radiolink RC4GS and it comes with it's own receiver the R6FG inside is already a gyro. Comparing the two, would I even need the gyro and esc that's in the video?
Sorry my bad, I know you'd still need the esc I meant just if it would replace the slidelogy gryo.
Will i have fun if i drifted without gyro? I have wltoy but i burnt out motor trying to test drivetrain so will that survo work for this car?
Also if i was to go without gyro and get a motor that fits the wltoys will it fit this and use esc transmit receiver from it till i get money for brushless i do have a micro esc from toro and a 27hrz traxes transmitter and receiver if not for the time being but probably wouldn't have gyro till i upgrad it
@@esmokebaby No, you can't drive RWD without gyro. Brushless motor is the same size and servo is the same width so you can upgrade WLtoys then move electronics here later. Brushed motor won't fit DRZ.
@@BeaversHobby thank you also i put the moter in just now not in the car and it whent for a secend but stoped and led blinked idk now if it was moter burnt or esc ehat do you think how can i test it jump motor with batary
@@esmokebaby You can jump motor to something like 2xAA battery (3V) to see if it works. Blinking led on the ESC normally means it has ran out of battery.
@@BeaversHobby ya 🤦♂️ i have another lipo stuck it in and it works silly me put still sticky so i have diffs coming in probly take forever to get here tho cause of chinese new year 😢
Can you give me an updated brushless and a bit tight budget list? Struggling with money ._.
18A + 1625 from BYRC is probably the cheapest one you can get. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002919336408.html
The ESC uses Hobbywing program so it's pretty good. The motor is OK.
@@BeaversHobbyok, Thank you. But I have a problem. AliExpress tells me that I cant buy It because they dont ship to Spain. What can I do?
@@ivanparga3825 Try Mini-Z Racing Italia. www.minizracing.it/minizshop
The price is higher than Aliexpress. obviously. But I don't think you'll have much choice if China doesn't ship you packages.
The cheapest option is to go with PN Racing V2 ESC with whichever motor the cheapest.
Here's the ESC. www.minizracing.it/minizshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_213&products_id=14148
7500KV is very excessive and you will have to gear the car down a lot but it's the cheapest there. www.minizracing.it/minizshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_86_1007&products_id=13355
@@BeaversHobby hey, Ive been looking at their shop in ali, and I found that they ship to Spain the esc, but no the combo with the motor. So, I Will buy the esc. Thank you
@@ivanparga3825 Maybe the combo you choose is out of stock? You can try and choose something else to see if there's anything available. If you can get the ESC that looks the same as PN V2 then great. Now you just need the motor. Surpass Rocket V2 is always a good choice. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005097162922.html
5500KV is the most balanced one you can do both grip and drift with it.
RWD ?
Yes.
ทำขายมั้ยครับ อยู่เมืองไทยรึเปล่า
อยากได้แบบนี้
ไม่ได้ทำขายครับ นี่โครง Atomic DRZ ซื้อมาประกอบได้เลย ชุดไฟเลือกเองได้ด้วยถ้าเอาเฉพาะโครงเปล่า
@@BeaversHobby ใช้งบเยอะมั้ยครับ
@@pattanakornkamthai4607 ถ้าไม่มีอะไรอยู่เลย ตัวโครงแบบรวมชุดไฟแล้วก็ 6500 (แบบนี้คุ้มสุด) หาแค่มอเตอร์ รีโมท ถ่าน ล้อ แท่นชาร์ครับ ทั้งหมดถ้าเอาแบบถูก ๆ ก็รวมประมาณ 11,000
ถ้าพอมีบางอย่างอยู่แล้วเช่นรีโมท (2ช่องก็พอใช้แล้ว) ถ่านลิโพ 2S ก้อนเล็กกับแท่นชาร์จ ก็ประหยัดไปได้อีกประมาณ 3 พันครับ
โอเค ขอบคุณนะครับ. เดี๋ยวลองๆหาข้อมูลดู
@@pattanakornkamthai4607 ลองดูร้าน RC บ้านนอกนะครับ เห็นเค้ามีขายอยู่
Sell me this amazing machine
It's in stock in Atomic's official website.
Chassis only www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_1037_1164&products_id=14162
With Servo, ESC, Gyro www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_1037_1164&products_id=14161
Or check the rcMart regularly. They got free shipping for this car.
But yours is tuned to perfection 👏
Thanks for the compliment. I won't sell it though because I still want to play it a lot more. 😁 😉
more like, how to make a beautiful chassis darn ugly as hell