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You guys are great!! I have been watching your vids for a while now but I have noticed that there may need to be some correlation between stick lie angle and stick length. I am a golf professional who has a pee wee skater and we have noticed that when you cut down a shaft (more than 3 in) your lie angle changes in which the toe is now more flush to the surface and not the middle of the curve. If you know what shaft flex you need and you know the length do you factor in lie angle?
hi.thank you for useful videos. i have one question. my blade is always worn of on the heel. should i cut a stick a little bit so the whole shaft would be on the surface or should i change a lie?
So I have a lie 5 Rbz stage 2. I'm going to get a ribcor this weekend. I have noticed the wear on my blade is at the heal and no wear at the toe. So what lie is best for me? Thanks for the great video!
Hey guys, so I just got my new 20K yesterday, and am using a Duchene curve, which is a lie 5. I have used the p106 Bauer curve for a long time, which is lie 6. I haven't used it yet; what can I expect? Love these videos- really wish you guys had a south Denver store, I am a huge gear head and will talk equipment all day.
i gotta say, when i first started bc i wasn't good at skating, i was using a 6, which was great, then as i got better and better, i started looking down more and missing passes and not getting as good a shot as i'm not getting a lot of blade on the ice, after swapping to a 5.5 sakic, now everything is perfect again!, amazing how lie difference can make a big difference
I am currently using a Bauer apx with ovechkin which is a 5 lie but since I skate with a very deep knee bend, I think I would need lower but I can't find any real four or 4.5 lies(Warrior 4 lie is more like a 5 in any other brands.). My question is: can I order custom sticks with low lies or where do i get a low lie stick?
this is the best tutorial/explanation for people looking to properly align the lie on their blades they use and figure it out best, thanks a bunch for posting it, now i can just simply link friends this video instead of explain it haha
Should I have gotten a Bauer ONE60 for indoor roller hockey or 3 Christian ABS sticks that I can use for indoor and outdoor? (Got a GREAT deal on the Christian ones)
Hey, I have a question. I use a lie 6 on a backstrom curve right now, love the curve, but I'm kind of thinking that the lie is too high for me now, but I use intermediate length of a stick and most lies for intermediate are lie 6 and I absolutely hate ovetchkin curve for my stick and that and stamkos (bauer) are the only options for lie 5, so my question is, which is more important, having the right lie, but a not preferred curve, or too high of a lie, but the preferred curve? Thanks.
YOu guys gave the best advices, and I would like to purchase my gears from you guys, but since the big brands (like Easton and NB) won't allow you guys to ship overseas which got me a bit disappointed. But anyway, best tips and more technical than others, so two thumbs up for me. Cheers.
On most sticks the stats are printed on them. Bauer does it a bit down on the handle, Easton does it closer to the blade, not sure about Warrior, Reebok, or CCM. All the info should be bundled together in one area, the curve type/name, the flex, the lie.
@icehockeywarehouse If im getting alot of toe wear (on my tape) do I need a higher lie? or a lower lie? I seem to lose the puck off my heel sometimes because either the rocker of my blade is wrong, or my lie is off, and theres a gap sometimes under the heel while stick handling.
I have a question!!!! When I have my skates on, and hold my stick directy in front of me, the toe barely even touches the ground!!! So do I want to go down or up!??
i got a question... i broke my stick and in the market for a new one. the one i had had even wear on the blade and that was a 5. but being the player i am i shoot a lot of wrist shots and like to load up on them. was thinking about getting a size 6 stick but dont wanna mess up and get more wear on the heel. what do you think? also, does height make a difference too?
Hello I was wondering if I have the right stick lie. I skate in a very low position and I can never stick handle in that low position because my stick is to far out in front of me and when I go to stick handle I have to go back in a upright position. I have a lie 6 and I'm not sure if it's the stick height because the stick is up to my nose so do you have any suggestions about what stick lie I should get? Thanks!
+hockeysensleafssuck If you are skating in a low position, you need a wider angle between the shaft and the stick blade in order to have more of a flat blade to the ice. You may want to try 4 or 4.5. Also, if your stick is too far out in front of you, you may want to think about cutting it down more.
So, I used to play with the SherWood Leclair stick. The lie was about a 4.5 and the pattern was quite plain, like a Sakic without the open face. Since there really aren't any pattens like that in the lower lies, can you compensate by cutting an inch or so off the length? I wouldn't want to over cut a $100+ stick to find out that's not a good fix.
Can you list some ABS sticks that would be good for me? Lie of 4-4.5 and with a mid curve or toe curve. My blades do not last very long since I play outdoor on smooth pavement. thank you.
hi im a defence about 5.3 and 130 lbs i like to slapshot alot but i cat get the range i want for those point shots my current stick is an 70 flex (i cut down used to be 65) eq 40 i bought an s19 senior for batams but i think its to stiff would you have and recomendations for a light weight hard shot stick for 100-200$ stick THANKS:)
So i like to take a lot of slapshots. Best working lie to me has been 5. So i simply need a stick with mid-kick, 5 lie, 80-95 flex, heel curver and beetween 50-100 €/ $. What stick would you recomend? I could use couple of examples, please reply soon. Thanks!
Nice video, great info. Question - I've been actively increasing the length of my stick the past year to increase my defensive reach. My question is this, if I increase the length of my stick by lets say an inch or so, should I adjust the lie down? Thinking being, the stick is longer now, to achieve the same blade angle relative to the ice, I would need to adjust the lie. Any suggestions in this? Thanks !
Your theory is a good one and is something to factor in when experimenting with stick length. I would add that it largely depends on where you place your top and bottom hands on the stick. For example, some defensemen prefer a longer stick for poke checks. With a longer stick comes a slight sacrifice in puck control when you’re stickhandling (as I’m sure you’ve noticed). To compensate for the reduction in control, d-men will move their top/bottom hands on the stick when they need to be able to control the puck in tight (ie: choking up on the stick) which naturally affects the lie as well. The key is to figure out which situations you find yourself in most often and which two or three main areas you want your stick to help you with. Offensive forwards sacrifice having a long reach because they’re more focussed on puck handling and shooting versus defensive players who prefer the length. If you have the opportunity, experiment with different lies. You’ll pick up on what feels most comfortable for your play style pretty easily.
@@beertron7 Yeah thanks man, I ended up changing from 5.5 to 5.0 and it was no issue. I think it probably does help to adjust the lie if you are changing the length out longer. However, I also went back and looked at some of my old sticks from college and discovered they were lie 5.0 (the marking were worn off). I must have switched to 5.5 at some point not knowing what my lie was back then. Anyway, greatly improved my ability to walk people, the puck being a bit more forward is easier to track with my peripheral vision, leading to more heads-up body poster when lugging the puck up the ice. So overall, much better setup, at least for me.
I dont understand..on facebook i asked the same question and they said i needed to go down. I currently use lie 5.5. WHEN I PLAY, it seems that the toe comes off of the ice. I go UP to 6? Or down to 5...Thanks
question, I may be wrong but it seems like the numbers for a lie vary from company to company a bit. For example, it seems like Warrior writes down the lie as a 4.5 on a curve that Bauer would write down as a 5 or 5.5. Am I correct about this or am I nuts?
I use a Sherwood endure 360(PP10 model for roller hockey. the lie is All of the wear is on the heel of the stick. Does that mean I have to go to a lie 4 or should go up to a lie 5?
is there a way to lower a lie of a stick because i got a stick for chrisrtmas and it is a lie 5 but i need a 4 and dont say to cut the stick because it is at the right place
hi im a defence about 5.3 and 130 lbs i like to slapshot alot but i cat get the range i want for those point shots my current stick is an 70 flex (i cut down used to be 65) eq 40 i bought an s19 senior for batams but i think its to stiff would you have and recomendations for a light weight hard shot stick for 100-200$ stick THANKS:) and yes paulenav is my account but wroung one thanks
We have even more information in our "Learning Center" that can answer those questions on our website, which can be found by navigating through the left-hand menu. Brandon IW Hockey
Am i right in assuming the stick doesn't need to be flat on the ice when say, standing up straight with your stick in your hand, like during a national anthem...but more so when you are actually in position and playing?
Is there a big difference between lie 5.5 and lie 6? I want to get a new stick but the curve I want to get is lie 5.5 and I use a lie 6 currently, will this change a lot?
I use a 5.5 lie, but I find that I have to raise my top hand on my stick (bend my elbow more) to get the entire blade on the ice. Should I go down to 5, or up to 6?
the video mentioned that after games, if the stick wear on the heel, u should go lower lie?i think there is an error, if the heel worn out, you need to straight up the stick a little bit so make the full blade on the ice, so u need decrease the angle lead to a higher lie. right?
No. The video is correct. If you are wearing the stick at the heel, then the person holding the stick is hitting and passing where the heel is touching the ice. If you picture the stick to the side while passing, the toe would be up off the ice and heel is touching the ice. If you decrease the lie, then the toe comes down. If you increase the lie, then the toe comes up higher. I just know this because I had the same issue. I had a lie 6 stick wearing at the heel, and when I received passes at the toe area, the puck would slide under. When I switched to a lie 5 stick, the stick would be flat from toe to heel and tape wear at the bottom was even.
Isn't it natural to have the most tape wear at the heel, because that's the part in contact with the ice when doing the one-hand carry and skating with the stick in one hand?
I live in San Diego too. Play it Again Sports in Mira Mesa is great for hockey, They have the best selection in San Diego, and the guys who work there all play hockey. Thats your best bet, If not Hockey Monkey or Hockeygiant in Santa Ana are great.
+For your health If the lie is not marked on your stick, bring it in to a store and compare it with sticks that are marked. Length of the stick doesn't matter, the lie will always be the same angle.
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You guys do an amazing job always here. So informative! I've been playing for 18 years and haven't put much thought into this
My whole hockey career has been a lie
Rocking the sharks hat, love it
Fantastic video- very informative. Loved the diagrams.
This is a great video. I know a lot of families that need this for their hockey players.
You guys are great!! I have been watching your vids for a while now but I have noticed that there may need to be some correlation between stick lie angle and stick length. I am a golf professional who has a pee wee skater and we have noticed that when you cut down a shaft (more than 3 in) your lie angle changes in which the toe is now more flush to the surface and not the middle of the curve. If you know what shaft flex you need and you know the length do you factor in lie angle?
hi.thank you for useful videos. i have one question. my blade is always worn of on the heel. should i cut a stick a little bit so the whole shaft would be on the surface or should i change a lie?
This video was made when I was two
So I have a lie 5 Rbz stage 2. I'm going to get a ribcor this weekend. I have noticed the wear on my blade is at the heal and no wear at the toe. So what lie is best for me? Thanks for the great video!
Hey guys, so I just got my new 20K yesterday, and am using a Duchene curve, which is a lie 5. I have used the p106 Bauer curve for a long time, which is lie 6. I haven't used it yet; what can I expect?
Love these videos- really wish you guys had a south Denver store, I am a huge gear head and will talk equipment all day.
i gotta say, when i first started bc i wasn't good at skating, i was using a 6, which was great, then as i got better and better, i started looking down more and missing passes and not getting as good a shot as i'm not getting a lot of blade on the ice, after swapping to a 5.5 sakic, now everything is perfect again!, amazing how lie difference can make a big difference
I am currently using a Bauer apx with ovechkin which is a 5 lie but since I skate with a very deep knee bend, I think I would need lower but I can't find any real four or 4.5 lies(Warrior 4 lie is more like a 5 in any other brands.). My question is: can I order custom sticks with low lies or where do i get a low lie stick?
this is the best tutorial/explanation for people looking to properly align the lie on their blades they use and figure it out best, thanks a bunch for posting it, now i can just simply link friends this video instead of explain it haha
Should I have gotten a Bauer ONE60 for indoor roller hockey or 3 Christian ABS sticks that I can use for indoor and outdoor? (Got a GREAT deal on the Christian ones)
Hey, I have a question. I use a lie 6 on a backstrom curve right now, love the curve, but I'm kind of thinking that the lie is too high for me now, but I use intermediate length of a stick and most lies for intermediate are lie 6 and I absolutely hate ovetchkin curve for my stick and that and stamkos (bauer) are the only options for lie 5, so my question is, which is more important, having the right lie, but a not preferred curve, or too high of a lie, but the preferred curve? Thanks.
YOu guys gave the best advices, and I would like to purchase my gears from you guys, but since the big brands (like Easton and NB) won't allow you guys to ship overseas which got me a bit disappointed. But anyway, best tips and more technical than others, so two thumbs up for me.
Cheers.
On most sticks the stats are printed on them. Bauer does it a bit down on the handle, Easton does it closer to the blade, not sure about Warrior, Reebok, or CCM. All the info should be bundled together in one area, the curve type/name, the flex, the lie.
All these videos are very informative.
@icehockeywarehouse If im getting alot of toe wear (on my tape) do I need a higher lie? or a lower lie? I seem to lose the puck off my heel sometimes because either the rocker of my blade is wrong, or my lie is off, and theres a gap sometimes under the heel while stick handling.
I have a question!!!! When I have my skates on, and hold my stick directy in front of me, the toe barely even touches the ground!!! So do I want to go down or up!??
i got a question... i broke my stick and in the market for a new one. the one i had had even wear on the blade and that was a 5. but being the player i am i shoot a lot of wrist shots and like to load up on them. was thinking about getting a size 6 stick but dont wanna mess up and get more wear on the heel. what do you think? also, does height make a difference too?
this is a very useful vid, thanks guys :)
Hello
I was wondering if I have the right stick lie. I skate in a very low position and I can never stick handle in that low position because my stick is to far out in front of me and when I go to stick handle I have to go back in a upright position. I have a lie 6 and I'm not sure if it's the stick height because the stick is up to my nose so do you have any suggestions about what stick lie I should get?
Thanks!
+hockeysensleafssuck If you are skating in a low position, you need a wider angle between the shaft and the stick blade in order to have more of a flat blade to the ice. You may want to try 4 or 4.5. Also, if your stick is too far out in front of you, you may want to think about cutting it down more.
So, I used to play with the SherWood Leclair stick. The lie was about a 4.5 and the pattern was quite plain, like a Sakic without the open face. Since there really aren't any pattens like that in the lower lies, can you compensate by cutting an inch or so off the length? I wouldn't want to over cut a $100+ stick to find out that's not a good fix.
Can you list some ABS sticks that would be good for me? Lie of 4-4.5 and with a mid curve or toe curve. My blades do not last very long since I play outdoor on smooth pavement. thank you.
@icehockeywarehouse im 5'2" and dont now what is the right lie for my hockey stick.
what would be a good lie for me to get?
hi im a defence about 5.3 and 130 lbs i like to slapshot alot but i cat get the range i want for those point shots my current stick is an 70 flex (i cut down used to be 65) eq 40 i bought an s19 senior for batams but i think its to stiff would you have and recomendations for a light weight hard shot stick for 100-200$ stick THANKS:)
thank you so much Erik
hey IW what stick is danny heatly using now i was jst wondering is it still an s19 dressed that is now jst painted white and taped white?
So i like to take a lot of slapshots. Best working lie to me has been 5. So i simply need a stick with mid-kick, 5 lie, 80-95 flex, heel curver and beetween 50-100 €/ $. What stick would you recomend? I could use couple of examples, please reply soon. Thanks!
Nice video, great info.
Question - I've been actively increasing the length of my stick the past year to increase my defensive reach. My question is this, if I increase the length of my stick by lets say an inch or so, should I adjust the lie down? Thinking being, the stick is longer now, to achieve the same blade angle relative to the ice, I would need to adjust the lie. Any suggestions in this? Thanks !
Your theory is a good one and is something to factor in when experimenting with stick length.
I would add that it largely depends on where you place your top and bottom hands on the stick.
For example, some defensemen prefer a longer stick for poke checks. With a longer stick comes a slight sacrifice in puck control when you’re stickhandling (as I’m sure you’ve noticed).
To compensate for the reduction in control, d-men will move their top/bottom hands on the stick when they need to be able to control the puck in tight (ie: choking up on the stick) which naturally affects the lie as well.
The key is to figure out which situations you find yourself in most often and which two or three main areas you want your stick to help you with.
Offensive forwards sacrifice having a long reach because they’re more focussed on puck handling and shooting versus defensive players who prefer the length.
If you have the opportunity, experiment with different lies. You’ll pick up on what feels most comfortable for your play style pretty easily.
@@beertron7 Yeah thanks man, I ended up changing from 5.5 to 5.0 and it was no issue. I think it probably does help to adjust the lie if you are changing the length out longer. However, I also went back and looked at some of my old sticks from college and discovered they were lie 5.0 (the marking were worn off). I must have switched to 5.5 at some point not knowing what my lie was back then. Anyway, greatly improved my ability to walk people, the puck being a bit more forward is easier to track with my peripheral vision, leading to more heads-up body poster when lugging the puck up the ice. So overall, much better setup, at least for me.
Rick g Sweet dude, keep breaking ankles out there!
Thanks this really helped
Hi i have a Sheer-Wood T50 Stastny Curve 90 Flex and a 6.0 lie and i have more wear on the heel so should i get a lie 5 or a lie 7?
I dont understand..on facebook i asked the same question and they said i needed to go down. I currently use lie 5.5. WHEN I PLAY, it seems that the toe comes off of the ice. I go UP to 6? Or down to 5...Thanks
question, I may be wrong but it seems like the numbers for a lie vary from company to company a bit. For example, it seems like Warrior writes down the lie as a 4.5 on a curve that Bauer would write down as a 5 or 5.5. Am I correct about this or am I nuts?
I use a Sherwood endure 360(PP10 model for roller hockey. the lie is All of the wear is on the heel of the stick. Does that mean I have to go to a lie 4 or should go up to a lie 5?
@icehockeywarehouse Thank you so much.
I play defense in ball hockey should I use a lie 4? I use a CCM Tavares a lie 6.
is there a way to lower a lie of a stick because i got a stick for chrisrtmas and it is a lie 5 but i need a 4 and dont say to cut the stick because it is at the right place
hi im a defence about 5.3 and 130 lbs i like to slapshot alot but i cat get the range i want for those point shots my current stick is an 70 flex (i cut down used to be 65) eq 40 i bought an s19 senior for batams but i think its to stiff would you have and recomendations for a light weight hard shot stick for 100-200$ stick THANKS:) and yes paulenav is my account but wroung one thanks
thank you so much!!!
This was actually really helpful. Solved Ll of my problems
Very informative video! Thanks a lot. Though, how will a Beginner level player decide about the Lie, Flex and the Length of the stick?
We have even more information in our "Learning Center" that can answer those questions on our website, which can be found by navigating through the left-hand menu.
Brandon IW Hockey
@@ice.warehouse OMG Brandon!!!!! I m just looking at the website. TONS of information out there. You ll go to heaven! Happy New Year!
@@professional7603
Happy New Year!
Am i right in assuming the stick doesn't need to be flat on the ice when say, standing up straight with your stick in your hand, like during a national anthem...but more so when you are actually in position and playing?
Is there a big difference between lie 5.5 and lie 6? I want to get a new stick but the curve I want to get is lie 5.5 and I use a lie 6 currently, will this change a lot?
What’s about lie 6 to 5
VERY VERY GOOD VIDEO...Thanks!
I use a 5.5 lie, but I find that I have to raise my top hand on my stick (bend my elbow more) to get the entire blade on the ice. Should I go down to 5, or up to 6?
I need a lie of 4 (or 3 in warrior) and can't find any seems manufacturers don't make 137 deg anymore.
What lie is the Rbz 40 landeskog curve and the lie 11k Datsyuk curve?
if I measure 5.7 and weighs 105 ? What lie i should choose between 5.0 , 5.5 or 6 ?
if i order a stick from your site, how long would it take for it to get to san diego?
@icehockeywarehouse where can i find a pro shop in San Diego, California?
@icehockeywarehouse thanks a lot!
Hey Tyson,
Is it possible to get a stick with a lie of 3 or 3.5? Better yet, is it possible to get that lie with an authentic Ovechkin curve?
So if i am a power forward should i use a lie 6 ?
@icehockeywarehouse Do you know what Easton lies are because i dont see them on there sticks
Wath is the best LIE for and center player ?
What lie is best for someone with long arms?
say i already bought a stick and dont know what the lie is, how would i find out without going to a hockey shop. thanks love the vids keep them up
What is the lie of the Easton Mako M1 II Hockey Sticks Int?
what is the lie for the datsyuk curve on a reebok A.i 3
Does length affect lie?
I just bought a Sherwood 5030 woody, flex 85 senior stick. What is the lie on that stick ?
What curve has lie 4 for any brand?
the video mentioned that after games, if the stick wear on the heel, u should go lower lie?i think there is an error, if the heel worn out, you need to straight up the stick a little bit so make the full blade on the ice, so u need decrease the angle lead to a higher lie. right?
No. The video is correct. If you are wearing the stick at the heel, then the person holding the stick is hitting and passing where the heel is touching the ice. If you picture the stick to the side while passing, the toe would be up off the ice and heel is touching the ice. If you decrease the lie, then the toe comes down. If you increase the lie, then the toe comes up higher. I just know this because I had the same issue. I had a lie 6 stick wearing at the heel, and when I received passes at the toe area, the puck would slide under. When I switched to a lie 5 stick, the stick would be flat from toe to heel and tape wear at the bottom was even.
Hey what stick was that in the beginning?
What's the best lie for a foreword
What are some sticks/players that use a lie 4?
i assume to test if your lie is correct you want to have your skates on right?
i have a one95 prostock how do i know what lie it is?
Okay thanks !
what is the lie for the ovechkin curve?
I bought a Warrior Mojo with a lie 4. But it is exactly the same as my Bauer x20 lie 5. Where can I find a true stick with a lie 4 or 4.5?
@icehockeywarehouse I think it's called a mid curve.
If I can do a wrist shot off ice but I can barely get it off the ice is it the lie or my shooting technique?
Thanks
How do we know whAt lie we are currently using. Does it say it somewhere on the stick???
thanks
Thanks! =)
I want to get the apx 2, but there is no lie 6 for it so what should i do?? Should I get a lie 8?
go lower instead
So a change from 5 to a 5.5 shouldn't really be noticable correct?
what lie is the hall curve?
I use a 6 lie and I play defense and I was wondering if I should move down to a lie 5. But I'm kind of nervous about switching from a lie 6 to a 5
+Quinn Miller I think it depends on how you play. I tend to play defense in quite an upright position when I skate and I use a lie of 6 which I like.
Isn't it natural to have the most tape wear at the heel, because that's the part in contact with the ice when doing the one-hand carry and skating with the stick in one hand?
I just bought a winn-well and the curve is PS#119 can u tell me what the lie is
I use a lie 3
Never mind, that is exactly what was conveyed!
crosby p87a?
How do we email them when they don't tell us there email
You can get a 7 lie from the P106 or Richards curve, I think.
Do you know what lie Parise's curve is?
I live in San Diego too. Play it Again Sports in Mira Mesa is great for hockey, They have the best selection in San Diego, and the guys who work there all play hockey. Thats your best bet, If not Hockey Monkey or Hockeygiant in Santa Ana are great.
where can i find the lie on my stick? and what should i be using as a tall skater, 6'5 off skates.
Use the lowest lie u can find, which is a 4. I would use a warrior because some of their curves have a 4 lie
+For your health If the lie is not marked on your stick, bring it in to a store and compare it with sticks that are marked. Length of the stick doesn't matter, the lie will always be the same angle.
i love tyson
I just switched from a lie of 7 to 6.5 and the length of the stick also matters I think
Im confused warriors lies are different what if i buy a dynasty with L5 what lie is it really?
@icehockeywarehouse true i gusse hes taking a page form james wisniweskis book of tricks eh? thx for the help guys
Hey I have a question. I use a lie 5.5, and when playing it seems like the toe is never on the ice. Do I want to go up to 6, or down to 5?
Down.
So 5 lie for you
Can you get the p26 inactive 5 lie?
P26 5 lie Available ?
I love my lie 4 stamkos curve stick i can stickhandle better and sauce