@@adamp2029 I love love love self titled so much. It’s nostalgic to when I first got into the cure but I will say 4:13 has its quirks. Although underneath the stars is an absolute beauty of a song
Seventeen seconds should definitely be higher up the list, songs like M, play for today and Secrets are so over looked that encompass the very essence of The Cure. Three Imaginary Boys will also remain as one of the greatest early punk albums of all time.
For Spain and Latin Rock Play for today it's a song that highly influenced so many bands, and then even more with disintegration. Soda Stereo and Gustavo Cerati, Heroes del Silencio, Caifanes all of them owe their sound to The Cure which at least in Mexico where very famous already
I do agree with Seventeen Seconds being higher. Prob my 2nd fav. I’ll tell you, Play For Today, In Your House, Seventeen Seconds and especially, M are some of my fav all time Cure Songs.
@leo slater yea definitely more post punk sorry and way too late to be early punk, but some punk undertones with simple bar chord riffs and performances such as this ruclips.net/video/vc1pqRIOLmc/видео.html
I strongly disagree with not having the title track on Disintegration. That’s like the best if not second best song on that album IMO. Interesting video nonetheless.
No reference to Just Like Heaven when talking about Kiss Me?!?! One of the greatest songs of the 80s. Head definitely belongs higher, what a great album.
1 - pornography; 2 - faith; 3 - 17 seconds 4 - disintegration; 5 - kiss me, kiss me, kiss me; 6 - the head on the door; 7 - wish; 8 - the top; 9 - bloodflowers; 10 - three imaginary boys;
14. Three Imaginary Boys 13. 4.13 Dream 12. The Top 11. Japanese Whispers 10. The Cure 9. Seventeen Seconds 8. Wild mood Swings 7. Pornography 6. Faith 5. Bloodflowers 4. The Head on the Door 3. Kiss Me Kiss Me kiss Me 2. Wish 1. Disintegration
Great video. I appreciate your putting Disintegration as number one. However, I typically start with Plainsong, then skip to Prayers for Rain and play the rest of the album.
@@klaedoe9042 While the album Disintegration is brilliant, POY - along with Lullaby - is probably the weakest song. The 8=minute song, Disintegration, along with Same Deep Water as You, and the brilliant The Same Deep Water as You making the second side of the album way better than the weak and flimsy first side.
I gasped so loud when saw you put seventeen seconds below three imaginary boys 🥲 i mean its your opinion i guess but 😭 thats so crazy to me three imaginary boys is honestly so bad besides boys dont cry fire in cairo and killing an arab
Bloodflowers was my first Cure record, so I might be slightly biased. But I love, love, love that record. Out of this world is amazing. Where the birds always sing is wonderful. Maybe someday has a great almost brit-poppish tone. The last day of summer is such a melancholic masterpiece. There is no if… remains one of my favorite of their‘s. Overall the tone of the record might be quite same-ish. But there whole atmosphere is really coherrent and captivating. That said Pornography, Whish and The Head on the Door are better records still. Disintegration however… I really like that record but it sounds too 80s to me of you can way so. Very good but it doesn‘t grab me as much as the other mentioned records. I know: blasphemy 😛
Agreed from this older guy. The darkest, heaviest, gothiest for sure when I was in college back in the 80's...also got the Disintegration cassette back then too.
@@Bartholomew_Musgrave false, it is definitely not the best album, I could give you a million and a half reasons why it isn't. its an amazing album, dont get me wrong, but there are albums that offer a lot more than what pornography has to offer.
@@klaedoe9042 I’m afraid this is probably a case of the younger generation not understanding music. Are you a zoomer? Do feel free to tell me a few of the million and half reasons why I’m wrong.
Pornography Disintegration Faith Head on the door 17 seconds The top Wish Three imaginary boys Kiss me Blood flowers The cure Wild mood swings 4:13 dream The top is highly underrated
I totally agree with you on "The Top." Very underrated album. Much artier and darker than "Head On the Door." A great transitional record. It was the first in a string of eclectic pop albums by The Cure, and one of their most interesting.
1. Disintegration 2. The Head on the Door 3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 4. Pornography 5. Seventeen Seconds 6. Wish 7. Three Imaginary Boys 8. Japanese Whispers 9. Bloodflowers 10. Faith 11. The Top 12. Wild Moods Swings 13. 4:13 Dream 14. The Cure
I just discovered the Wish album quite recently, having been a fan of the Cure back in the 80's, and feeling that I had a pretty good handle on all that they had produced and knew where the strong stuff in their line up of albums was, and when they were produced. So for me the mid 80's was the time when I thought they were at their absolute pinnacle; and that then made Wish such a nice discovery for me. For me I'd say that Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, was their strongest album, but Wish is such a quintessentially iconic Cure album that I've just loved discovering this album late in the day.
I like Seventeen Seconds the most, it has the most calm, solid and melodic sounds, which tie together just perfectly throughout all the duration of the album. I'll never get bored of listening to it. Then it's Pornography and Disintegration for me. I'm a huge Cure fan, they've always been my most favourite band ❤🎉😊
1. The head on the door 2. Three imaginary boys 3. Seventeen seconds 4. Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me 5. Japanese Whispers 6. Disintegration 7. Pornography 8. The Top 9. Faith Don´t know the rest good enough
01 The Head On The Door 02 Wish 03 Pornography 04 Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me 05 Disintegration 06 Faith 07 The Top 08 Seventeen Seconds 09 Three Imaginary Boys 10 Wild Mood Swings 11 4::13 Dream 12 Bloodflowers 13 The Cure
Great ranking.I agree with #1 Disintigration.They had a b- side from those sessions called "Fear of Ghosts" which is so good.I can't believe it didn't make the album. I like your channel.Hello from Seattle.
I'm really glad to see someone else enjoys Pornography (edit, that sentence could be taken so wrong out of context, lol) as much as I do. I would've ranked them both the way you did. To me, Disintegration should have ended after Disintegration. My favorite song on Disintegration and probably my absolute favorite Cure song in general is the same deep water as you, for very personal reasons. It was also the first song by the Cure I heard.
15. The Cure 14. 4.13 Dream 13. Bloodflowers 12. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 11. Wild Mood Swings 10. The Glove - Blue Sunshine 9. Japanese Whispers 8. Three Imaginary Boys 7. Pornography 6. Wish 5. The Head on the Door 4. Disintegration 3. The Top 2. Seventeen Seconds 1. Faith
1. Disintegration - It took years to get into the longer tracks and I agree some of them are a bit too long. But the sound of the album is gorgeous and it contains my most beloved Cure songs. 2. The Top - The album I got into the Cure and I agree that is ranked way too low in most of the Cure rankings I saw on RUclips. It's a good mixture of their darker with their poppy side. 3. Faith - My favourite of their post punk trilogy because it sounds so awesome with that deep bass and moody synths. 4. The Head On The Door - The second album I got into. Same comments as on Disintegration about gems making it up for the weaker tracks. 5. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me - Their white album containing every style they covered on their precious records. 6. 17 Seconds - Again an album that is ranked way too low in most lists. Their minimalistic approach works very well in my opinion. 7. Pornography - Never a huge fan of the album because it's a bit too weird for me. Not a hug fan but still a fan. 8. Wish - Too many songs that do not stand out because I have a "deja entendu" feel about them. 9. Three Imaginary Boys - A premature Cure but with a lot of yummy hooks in the short compositions. 10. Wild Mood Swings - The album where Robert Smith lost his golden touch. I own Bloodflowers but never listened very much to that album. I don't own the later ones although I enjoyed a listen to their last album.
Seventeen Seconds Faith Pornography The Top Three Imaginary Boys Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me Disintegration The Head on the Door Wish Bloodflowers Wild Mood Swings 413 Dream The Cure.....
There's only one tierlist and only one The Cure, and it died at the conclusion of 82's "Thirteen Explicit Moments" tour: 1° Pornography 2° Faith 3° Seventeen Seconds 4° Three Imaginary Boys
Disintegration> Wish> Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me> you can fight me on this, but these albums are objectively WAY BETTER than every one of these albums, only one debatable is Pornography.
They keep changing depending on my mood, but at present: 1. The Head on the Door 2. Disintegration 3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 4. The Top 5. Pornography 6. Bloodflowers 7. Three Imaginary Boys 8. Faith 9. Seventeen Seconds 10. Wish 11. The Cure 12. 4:13 Dream 13. Wild Mood Swings I don't want to put Wild Mood Swings at the bottom, but it's the only album where I find myself skipping tracks.
Yes! I've been waiting for this one! My ranking constantly changes and your commentary has definitely made me make some changes. Here's what I'm thinking as of now. 13. The Cure - Most underwhelming for me. 12. Bloodflowers - Love the last two tracks but that's about it. 11. 4.13 Dream - Usually I rank this one last but now that I think about it, this album does have more highlights than the previous two. 10. Three Imaginary Boys - This would definitely be much higher on my list if it was the US version Boys Don't Cry instead. 9. Seventeen Seconds - Love, love, love the music on "Secrets" but the vocals ultimately make it sound half-baked hence I feel that track and the two instrumentals drag the album down a bit. 8. Wild Mood Swings - Definitely a bit overlong but I do really love the variety on this album. 7. The Top - Easily their most underrated album, The Top bridges the gap between Pornography and The Head on the Door. Was friends with Andy Anderson on Facebook before he died. An underrated drummer imho. Miss you, Andy. 6. Faith - A solid third entry that I definitely feel comfortable putting just before my Top 5. A shame that "Charlotte Sometimes" wasn't included in the original release. 5. The Head on the Door - Usually I ranked this one in my Top 4 but now I'm inclined to agree there are some chinks in that armor, namely "Close to Me". That song is definitely overrated. Still, Boris Williams was definitely a great addition to the group. Definitely on par with Budgie! 4. Wish - A bit overlong but still top quality songwriting, musicianship, and singles to boot. Love that you mentioned "Doing the Unstuck". Why oh why did they not release that as a single? 3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me - A fantastic double album that features some of their greatest hits as well as one other track that I've actually heard a few times on my favorite radio station here in the US: "How Beautiful You Are". 2. Pornography - Hands down their darkest and most nihilistic album in their discography as evidenced by the opening line: "It doesn't matter if we all die". 1. Disintegration - What can I say that hasn't already been said about this album? It truly is the band's masterpiece and definitely deserves all the praise it gets. Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this ranking. Here's hoping you do Depeche Mode next and maybe somewhere down the line Siouxsie and the Banshees.
I am a very recent convert to Depeche Mode after giving them the shoulder for forty years or so, a ranking would be more than welcome... Siouxsie and the Banshees is a good call...
@@tokyochuchu Sorry, I didn't include these last night like Ste did, I thought about it, but I was a little pressed for time as it was a stormy night and I actually did have a brownout at one point in the middle of writing my first comment. Anyhoo, here are my picks for best tracks off each album in the order that I ranked them. 13. The Cure - Labyrinth, Anniversary, Taking Off 12. Bloodflowers - Maybe Someday, 39, Bloodflowers 11. 4.13 Dream - Underneath the Stars, The Only One, Siren Song, The Hungry Ghost 10. Three Imaginary Boys - Grinding Halt, Accuracy, Fire in Cairo, Three Imaginary Boys 9. Seventeen Seconds - Play for Today, Secrets, A Forest, At Night 8. Wild Mood Swings - Want, Club America, This Is a Lie, Gone!, Jupiter Crash, Numb, Return, Round & Round & Round 7. The Top - Birdmad Girl, The Caterpillar, Wailing Wall, Give Me It, Bananafishbones, The Top 6. Faith - Primary, Other Voices, All Cats Are Grey, Funeral Party, Doubt 5. The Head on the Door - A Night Like This, Sinking, Push 4. Wish - Doing the Unstuck, To Wish Impossible Things, A Letter to Elise, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea 3. Kiss Me Kiss Kiss Me - How Beautiful You Are, One More Time, Shiver and Shake, Catch, The Snakepit 2. Pornography - One Hundred Years, The Figurehead, Cold, Short-Term Effect 1. Disintegration - Pictures of You, Closedown, Lullaby, Fascination Street, Prayers for Rain, Disintegration
The three-in-a-row of The Top/Head On The Door/Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is my fav era of The Cure. The Top is def. underrated. The Most psychadelic of their albums I reckon.
Haven’t listened to every album so I’ll just do my top 10 songs 1. Close To Me I know you don’t like how it’s whispered but I think that adds a real vulnerability to the song. It’s a song that’s also been there with me, soundtracking the best and worst times of my life. 2. Lovecats I love how catchy it is and I’ve had this song play through some of my best days. 3. Plainsong It’s Beautiful and depressing. Almost like your transferring into a another world. 4. Love song It’s got The Cure’s best lyrics and an amazing sound. 5. Fascination Street It may be long but it’s an life changing experience. This like most songs on this list has been with me since early childhood and it’s had large lasting impression on me. 6. Friday I’m Love. Not much to say about this one other than it being one of The Cure’s catchiest. 7. Pictures of You Amazing song, always loved it. I heard it to many times for it to get a reaction out of my, but it’s such a perfectly written song It’s got to be in my top 10. 8. Let’s Go To Bed Catchy, energetic, really fun. 9. Primary A recent favorite my mine. I love the energy, Robert Smith’s vocals on it, all that bass. It’s kinda catchy too. 10. Distentigration You can kinda tell what my favorite Cure album is at this point. This is a great way to close off one of the best albums of all time.
I've loved The Cure since about 1985 so just pre-Just Like Heaven and all the attention they got around that time. I'd have to say that I think they have four albums I rank a bit below the rest, my mood would really change my ranking. I'd definitely put Faith and Head On The Door higher than you did and I think I'd definitely put Pornography and Disintegration as their two 'best' albums, I think overall I'd have to say that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is my favorite. At least today. Mixed Up is 100% their album I've listened to the most over the last 10 years or so. Great band. So many great songs and so many high points on most of their albums but as you say, several low points. Well, maybe more 'filler' than actual low points.
You killed my heart by stating that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me doesn’t have any classic Cure songs on it when in fact it has their most classic track. Their most definitive track in my own subjective opinion. “Just Like Heaven” is pure Cure pop perfection. No song sums up the 80s as wonderfully as this track. It’s defined the band and introduced them to generations of new fans. The Cute have suitcases full of hits and amazing songs, but none hit the zeitgeist like Juat Like Heaven. Shameful…
Agree with you on The Top and I disagree with you on Bloodflowers. Since you don’t like Close To Me on The Head On The Door what do you think of the single version? Cause it’s very different.
Top 5 for me 1. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 2. Disintegration 3. Head on the Door 4. Wish 5. Pornography I really like Disintegration even think it is number 2, but my favorite is and always will be Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me. I have never understood why this album is so underrated. Other favorites are Head on the Door which is almost a tie for number 2 but the greater running length and consistency of Pornography puts it a bit above, and then Wish and Pornography. These five are great albums in my opinion.
This shade being thrown on Bloodflowers is expected if you don’t recognize or resonate with the themes and instead focus on the sound instead. Because I didn’t for a while starting off as a Cure fan with Disintegration, of all albums, setting the precedent. It is also worth saying that it is quite mood dependent. If you revisit it and are more receptive it is a focused and definitive Cure album that doesn’t pigeonhole their sound in the slightest considering what the goal of the album was. I think it actually expands on the sound and the tone is different which is why I don’t think it’s a carbon copy of Disintegration like you make it out to be. Also I had no idea Dressing Up was hated. It’s one of the better songs on the album so much so that Robert saved it from both the Banshees and the Glove. You could very easily make a copy pasta out of this but regardless I think you should re-examine Bloodflowers and find fulfillment in it.
I love your enlightment of Bloodflower's, and Dressing up. Dressing up is definitely one of the best tracks of the top, I can never understand why it gets hate. Although I guess it could be the same reason on why Deftones get hate, and that is the style of singing that both have.
12. The Cure 11. Wild Mood Swings 10. Bloodflowers 9. Three Imaginary Boys 8. Wish 7. Seventeen Seconds 6. The Head on the Door 5. Faith 4. The Top 3. Disintegration 2. Pornography 1. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (cos it's the album that pretty much perfectly shows everything The Cure can do, and that covers every mood!) KMKMKM generally always holds the top spot for me, but the other 6 albums in the top 7 change around often, depending on my mood. Sometimes Wish even creeps higher up, cos it has some of my favourite Cure songs on it (Open, The Edge of the Deep Green Sea, A Letter to Elise...), even if it's inconsistent and has too much middling material (I'm excited for the upcoming 30th anniversary deluxe edition, though!) 4:13 Dream isn't in my ranking cos it's the only album of theirs I've never actually owned or heard... probably because for me there was diminishing returns post-Wish and I really didn't care for the s/t at all, so (perhaps unfairly) gave up afterwards...
definately take a listen to 4:13 dream, i dont care for the self titled at all,but 4:13 dream has some really good songs especially the opening song sadly the production & mixing was a little butchered on this album
I definitely don't think wish is inconsistent, yes the happy songs seem out of place at first, but honestly, They flow really well into the album the more you listen to it. Wish is top 3 for me, because there are a lot that you can dissect from it that people haven't really tried noticing yet, and Its honestly one of the cures most well written (even though that's a tough statement to say, because the cure has ALOT of well written pieces of music. Also, when I mean well written, I mean both lyrically and musically. This album has some of the cures most melochonic lead harmonies out of their entire discography, and its a album where Roberts poetic style of writing really shines through. It is an album that is, in my opinion, comparable to Disintegration. Hell, it is disintegration if it was written for the 90's
@@klaedoe9042 Yeh, perhaps inconsistent was the wrong word. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Wish and think it is very much underrated in their catalogue... I think ultimately it's just that I'm not that much of a fan of 'Friday I'm in Love' - and not even really because it's not a good song, but more because it's been overplayed/overused to such an extent that it's become a bit of a cliche that I can't really comfortably listen to anymore (much like R.E.M.'s 'Everybody Hurts'). Again, a lot of my favourite Cure songs are on Wish, and it's probably the album of theirs I have the most personal connection with as it's the first one of theirs I bought upon release (it was my first actual full length of theirs, in fact - before Wish came out I only had the tape of Standing on a Beach/Staring at the Sea and songs on various artists compilation albums, including Lullaby on a Now 15 tape... 😂). Also, my ranking of their discography (which really is an impossible task anyways!) has changed a bit since I posted my first comment a year or so ago (especially now the deluxe edition has come out) and Wish would now probably be top 5 (and even though it may keep it's current spot, I've learnt to appreciate Bloodflowers more, too!)
I remember being disappointed with Wild Mood Swings when it came out. But over two decades on, it's become one of my top 7 cure albums. To me, the album as a whole has enough elements of what I love about Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me to go advise Robert to make another album like those two albums and market it as the completion of another super special trilogy :D
I remember buying wild mood swings the first time it came out and seeing them on tour during that era. I was pretty disappointed but over the years have come to love wild mood swings... I would go so far as to say that wild mood swings was truly the last cure album that ever took any real chances! Everything sense has been Cure by numbers... The last two albums were so poorly produced they were practically inaudible to listen too..
Unbelievable… my top five cure songs include almost exactly the same as you: strange days, fascination street, Picture of you, Push, and Plainsong (#1)… the only difference is I would replace Trust by A night like this!
I guess everyone experiences albums in different ways. For my part, I discovered The Cure in early 1982, Pornography had not been released yet so their more recent album was Faith which has remained my favourite since. I followed the band's evolution from there. To me their imperial phase is definitely what I'd call their "new wave" (rather than calling it "goth") period that is Seventeen Seconds / Faith /Pornography. I welcomed their pop phase compiled on Japanese Whispers and the following (more psychedelic) album The Top. What followed was more or less the same, albeit less interesting... The Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me coincided with their worldwide success which I think diluted the essence of The Cure and they became less special. Disintegration was a return to form in 1989 and became a blueprint for modern-day The Cure. Wish was a mish-mash of everything that came before but still a good album if a little light compared to the dark sea that is Disintegration... then I think the band lost their way: Bloodflowers, Wild Mood Swings, The Cure and 4:13 Dream are all mediocre records with the odd gem here and there. Finally, Songs of a Lost World shows Smith at the helm of a new majestic phase although it would work perfectly as a closing chapter but I heard there will be another album soon enough which might tarnish the acclaim of this new album. We'll see... 01. Faith (1981) 02. Seventeen Seconds (1980) 03. Pornography (1982) 04. Japanese Whispers (1983) 05. Disintegration (1989) 06. Songs of a Lost World (2024) 07. The Top (1984) 08. Wish (1992) 09. The Head On the Door (1985) 10. Three Imaginary Boys (1979)
i guess i’m a sad school girl and i love the instrumental in bloodflowers so much idk i appreciate the instrumental and the sounds and all that. i think it’s genius so idk, but i like your opinion but i don’t know why everyone is hating on that album lol. i live all their other albums i just appreciate the cure in every way…. they are pure musicians.
13. Three Imaginary Boys 12. The Cure 11. 4_13 Dream 10. Bloodflowers 09. Kiss Me 08. 17 Seconds 07. Wild Mood Swings 06. The Top 05. Head on the Door 04. Faith 03. Wish 02. Pornography 01. Disintegration
Obviously this is subjective. As for 4:13 Dream. Did you know that It's Over has words? I was not aware of this until a year ago when I heard them during a concert I was watching. I think I have a broken, but awesome version of it and what's stupid is it's the version I ripped from the CD.
I'm an amateur. I think that's kind of part of the fun of my channel. I'm often a bit sloppy and always slightly drunk. But yeah, I know I kept refering to The Head on the Door as A Head on the Door and I also lost the 'The' on The Same Deep Water as You and also referred to it as something wierd because of drunkenness at one point. But it's all part of the breakage.
What is everyone’s opinion on the Disintegration singles that were remixed by Mark Saunders? I personally hate the Pictures Of You single version but I kinda like the subtle differences on Lovesong single. The Disintegration version has a more striking guitar sound.
You're most definitely not alone with that. The Pictures of You single version is lacking and does not have that magic and spark of the original mix which is quite sad especially when introducing new people to the song. They go straight to the single version. 😔 I think the mix is ok if you already know the song as it gives a few alternative dropouts but overall, it's not anywhere close to the beauty of the original! I adore the Disintegration, Show and Vow versions 🥰
Ok with most of your comments, but: Disintegration (song) is one of the most important Cure songs (for Robert, too, I think) and definitely not a song too much on the LP!
@@tokyochuchu Do you mean the music or the lyrics? I don't hear it in either, tbh, but am interested to know what it is about it that links it to Oasis for you!
@@slothDAMN It's both. It has that working class British vibe to the lyrics about going down the pub and getting drunk and also has the meat and potatoes pub-rock style of an Oasis composition. All droning distortion and steady rythems, like a lot of the songs on Oasis's debut album Definitely Maybe. At least, that's how I personally hear it.
@@tokyochuchu Ah, okay. I guess I get what you mean on a very base level, but the lyrics to 'Open' are WAAAAAAY more poetic and descriptive than any Oasis lyrics, plus I wouldn't say that it's really about a lad's night out at the pub or whatnot (which is more of an Oasis kinda vibe, even though I don't think they ever really had a song about such a thing?) Open is far more introspective than that and the narrator is clearly confused, drunk in an unpleasant way, and most likely suffering from alcoholism and some kind of social anxiety. As well as this, the music is also woozy in a way that, combined with the vocals, almost makes the listener feel the way the narrator is describing - which is something I'm fairly sure Oasis never did with their definitely very meat and potatoes music. This is also just my opinion, of course, but that's how I hear/feel it!
Pro tip regarding Disintegration. Create a playlist that omits Last Dance and Homesick; this is how the album initially came out on vinyl. CDs ruined the album format with many bands, especially The Cure, stuffing the extra running time with second-rate material. I can't say I agree with you about Seventeen Seconds. Innovative, delicate, deliberate, sensitive, restrained, haunted and beautiful. It is sparse, but sometimes less really is more; one of the finest albums by anyone, ever.
Great point about Disintegration, I didn’t really think about it, but I did know there were two tracks on the cd that weren’t on the original lp. I’ll have to try listening to it the ‘right’ way.
@@tokyochuchu Fun fact for those who weren't there at the time. Everyone I knew hated Wish, such a disappointment after Disintegration. Friday I'm in Love was being played on commercial radio - how embarrassing! When The Cure came to town, they played in a huge arena filled with normies (not the word we used at the time). It was the end of our secret little world.
@@tokyochuchu Oh yeah, I couldn't forgive them for Wish for years. I stayed away until they released Bloodflowers, came back to town and played the best damn show I ever saw.
Still have to say the first album but saw them live for the first time in 1978 but I like the first four for sure and The Head on the Door i think is a good pop album .
Couldn't agree more re; The Top. To me it's the template for The Cure's fascinatingly schizophrenic and highly colorful future and I could never understand why fans ranked it so low.
This List is eerily similar to mine. with just one small difference. I'd swap Wish and Pornography. My top 4 are Disintegration, Wish, Kiss Me, Pornography. I would agree with the rest of your list. Now I know this is not the common opinion. But Wish and Kiss me are more personal to me, as those were the years I found the cure. They say your favorite music, you will every have in your whole life, are the ones you discovered in high school. that is certainly the case for me. 87-92 were great years to be a Cure fan.
I don't really like Bloodflowers, I think its mostly super boring. But your comparisons of its tracks to Disintegration tracks are bigger reaches than Halo. None of those sound like each other very much at all haha. Still a nice ranking, I can appreciate hot takes. I know I sure as hell have them (I think Kiss Me is bottom 5).
The placings of Seventeen Seconds, Faith & and Pornography are my one surprise, all got played endlessly in the early eighties but they just do not have the same effect on me these days... The Cure are my second favorite band of all time behind the Beatles but ranking the Beatles would be much easier... 13 - The Cure... Underwhelming is definitely the word to describe this but I still like it ... Best tracks ... Before Three, The End Of The World... 12 - 4:13 Dream... This is interchangeable with the last placed album ... Best tracks ... The Only One, Underneath The Stars... 11 - Seventeen Seconds... For me the weakest of the trilogy ... Best tracks ... A Forest, Seventeen Seconds & 'M'... 10 - Bloodflowers... I like this album but for me few standout tracks ... Best tracks ... There Is No If & Maybe Someday... 09 - Faith... I listened to this album relentlessly for weeks around early '82 ... Best tracks ... Primary & The Drowning Man.... 08 - Wild Mood Swings ... It is long, too long but I do like the variety and the highs are as good as anything on my top five ... Best tracks ... This Is A Lie, Mint Car & Treasure... 07 - Three Imaginary Boys... I bought the 'Boys Don't Cry' LP around '80/ early '81 and wish I was ranking that (it would rise a couple of places) Jumping Someone Else's Train, Boys Don't Cry & Killing An Arab were all welcome additions ... Best tracks ... Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night & Fire In Cairo... 06 - Pornography... It's a dark but glorious album ... Best tracks ... One Hundred Years, The Hanging Garden & Cold... 05 - The Top... Together with the compilation Japanese Whispers I thought my love affair with the Cure was over, I hated The Walk & Let's Go To Bed, my flat mate bought both albums but I was not that taken with them... Fortunately The Smiths & Lloyd Cole (Commotions) came along to fill this brief gap... BUT this album has grown on me immensely over recent years ... Best tracks ... Shake Dog Shake, The Caterpillar (I bought the 12" & the single, this will always be one of my all timers) & Bananafishbones... 04 - Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me... For me there is not a great deal to separate this & Wish ... Best tracks ... Catch (truly gorgeous), Hot Hot Hot, Why Can't I Be You... 03 - Wish... Best tracks ... Friday I'm In Love (pop perfection), High, To Wish Impossible Things, A Letter To Elise... 02 - The Head On the Door... With this album I fell back in love with the Cure, this time the affair is life long, it's a 5/5 album but it could have been better, the 'In Between Days' 12" had two great tacks 'The Exploding Boy' & 'A Few Hours After This'... 'The Baby Screams' I like but had it been replaced with 'The Exploding Boy' this may have displaced Disintegration ... Best tracks ... In Between Days, Screw & Push (A contender for No. 1 Cure song)... I like Close To Me... 01 - Disintegration... It is a masterpiece in my view, for some reason I can't stand 'Fascination Street' but the rest are perfection ... Best tracks ... Plainsong, Lullaby, Closedown & Pictures Of You (possibly my favourite Cure song)...
10. Boys dont Cry 9. 17 Seconds 8. The Cure 7. Wish 6. The Head on the Door 5. Pornography 4. The Top 3. Disintegration 2. Faith 1. Kiss Me Kiss me Kiss me
1. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 2.Disentigration 3. Wish 4.Pornography 5. The Head on the Door 6. The Top 7. Seventeen Seconds This is my current ranking, the rest of the albums I need to give more re-listens to to properly give them a good ranking. I haven't listened to the self titled album or 4:13 dream, but I firmly believe the cure really doesnt have any bad albums. 1 and 2 are really interchangeable, since both I believe are equally masterpieces, it just depends on which one I'm willing to relisten to over and over lmao. 3 and 4 as well, even though thematically they are not the same, however, they share many similarities writing wise. imho Wish is definitely more re-listenable though, it is masterpiece song writing at more digestible state. These four albums could all be the best the cure has to offer, if one or the other didn't exist, which is something I love about the cure, they have more than one masterpiece. Number 5 is also a masterpiece in its own right, however, it falls short only because it doesnt have MORE. I definitely feel like the album could be a few songs longer, I think including The exploding boy and Stop Dead could've helped add more spice to it (it is one of my favorite sounds from the cure, specifically talking about the HOTD era). Number 6 is definitely the most slept on Cure record, It is really fun with great to amazing experimentation, with some great standouts in my opinion, with the least interesting tracks being good but not enough to stand out with the others (basically the last three tracks, they are interesting, however, they don't really hold up with the other 7). Seventeen seconds will always be a fun, great listen. its just too short, with too many in-between "rest time" tracks that I feel aren't really needed when your album only has like 5 real songs. Its basically just an Ep, However some of my favorite bangers are from this album, so I cant complain too much. Its also the first album ive listened to of the cure discography, so its gonna have a higher spot than every album on the rest of the list, even if some may be a bit better
For me they have made only one weak album (4.13 Dream which has 3 or 4 good songs but most of it is very bland to me) and the rest ranges from ok to great 13.4.13 Dream 12.Wild Mood Swings 11.The Cure 10.Three Imaginary Boys 9.Bloodflowers 8.The Top 7.Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me 6.Head On The Door 5.Seventeen Seconds 4.Wish 3.Faith 2.Pornography 1.Disintegration (my favourite album of all time)
01- The Head on the door 02- Kiss me kiss me kiss me 03- Disintegration 04- Wish 05- 17 Seconds 06- Three Imaginary Boys 07- The Top 08- The Cure 09- Bloodflowers 10- Faith 11- Pornography 12- Wild Mood Swings 13- 4.13 Dream It's hard to rate their discography because some fans are more into the gothic/dark stuff and others into the more pop-sounding records. Some people will watch other people's lists and think "Oh my God how could he rate that record over this or that". Regardless of the style one prefers there is no denying Robert Smith is a genius writer.
TokyoChuchu hates Close To Me so much, he refuses to associate himself with it and calls it Close To You. Haha! I've never understood why Pornography always ranks so high on the list of favorite albums. I've owned this album since the 80s and think I've played it straight through more than a dozen times....mostly because the few songs I really like from it made it into various compilations...but then again, I like Close To Me and A Perfect Girl...and (Kiss Me)x3 is my favorite album by the Cure, so my tastes deviate from the typical fan.
Did I refer to it as Close to You? Ah... That's embarrassing. 🙈 Although, I didn't know The Cure had an album called Hot Hot Hot. 😜 Peas in a pod you and I it seems...
@@tokyochuchu that's hilarious, that's what I get for typing while I was listening to you talk. I think you mentioned the song and I transposed the "Kiss Me" with the "Hot", too funny.
Your accent is insane - it seems like a Brit accent but then you have hard R's... is that an actual dialect over there or have you lived in America a long time or something?
I'm British but I have lived in Japan for 18 years teaching American English. It messes with your accent for sure. My English family tell me I sound less and less English with each passing year.
I am an old fan. I suspect a few of the older fans will agree with this 1. Pornography 2 . Faith 3. 17 Seconds 4. The Top 5. Three Imaginary Boys Every album after these had a moment or two but they changed the direction of what they wanted for their fan base. Never Enough was probably their last inspired track. I saw them live in 92 or 93. It was such a disappointment. I lost my love for them after that.
Am I the only one that absolutely loves bloodflowers???
Nope. The album is very divisive for sure but there are many that love it.
Masterpiece for me.
I like it a lot too
I like it as well. WAY more than 4:13 and the self-titled.
@@adamp2029 I love love love self titled so much. It’s nostalgic to when I first got into the cure but I will say 4:13 has its quirks. Although underneath the stars is an absolute beauty of a song
Seventeen seconds should definitely be higher up the list, songs like M, play for today and Secrets are so over looked that encompass the very essence of The Cure. Three Imaginary Boys will also remain as one of the greatest early punk albums of all time.
I agree
For Spain and Latin Rock Play for today it's a song that highly influenced so many bands, and then even more with disintegration. Soda Stereo and Gustavo Cerati, Heroes del Silencio, Caifanes all of them owe their sound to The Cure which at least in Mexico where very famous already
I do agree with Seventeen Seconds being higher. Prob my 2nd fav. I’ll tell you, Play For Today, In Your House, Seventeen Seconds and especially, M are some of my fav all time Cure Songs.
Three Imaginary Boys isn't early punk, however it is early post-punk
@leo slater yea definitely more post punk sorry and way too late to be early punk, but some punk undertones with simple bar chord riffs and performances such as this ruclips.net/video/vc1pqRIOLmc/видео.html
I strongly disagree with not having the title track on Disintegration. That’s like the best if not second best song on that album IMO. Interesting video nonetheless.
Bloodflowers last? Woow such a Perfect album last?
That's subjectivity for you, my friend. Glad that you like it a lot though!
No reference to Just Like Heaven when talking about Kiss Me?!?! One of the greatest songs of the 80s. Head definitely belongs higher, what a great album.
No reference to Want on Mild mood swings either
1 - pornography;
2 - faith;
3 - 17 seconds
4 - disintegration;
5 - kiss me, kiss me, kiss me;
6 - the head on the door;
7 - wish;
8 - the top;
9 - bloodflowers;
10 - three imaginary boys;
14. Three Imaginary Boys
13. 4.13 Dream
12. The Top
11. Japanese Whispers
10. The Cure
9. Seventeen Seconds
8. Wild mood Swings
7. Pornography
6. Faith
5. Bloodflowers
4. The Head on the Door
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me kiss Me
2. Wish
1. Disintegration
Great video. I appreciate your putting Disintegration as number one. However, I typically start with Plainsong, then skip to Prayers for Rain and play the rest of the album.
Wow... No Pictures of You or Closedown?! I can't imagine it... 😵💫
@@tokyochuchu I cannot stand Pictures of You. Closedown is meh. The album pretty much gets going with Prayers for Rain.
@@KaiPonte this is slander beyond reason, POY is like contender number 1 for the cures masterpiece
@@klaedoe9042 While the album Disintegration is brilliant, POY - along with Lullaby - is probably the weakest song. The 8=minute song, Disintegration, along with Same Deep Water as You, and the brilliant The Same Deep Water as You making the second side of the album way better than the weak and flimsy first side.
I saw Bloodflowers came in last and knew I couldn't watch the rest. I know there's no right or wrong... but that's just wrong.
yes thank god. it’s the best album they ever had
I gasped so loud when saw you put seventeen seconds below three imaginary boys 🥲 i mean its your opinion i guess but 😭 thats so crazy to me three imaginary boys is honestly so bad besides boys dont cry fire in cairo and killing an arab
Are you sure you have the right album? Only one of those 3 tracks you listed is on it.
To Wish Impossible Things is FAR from a blemish. It's gorgeous and belongs solidly on WISH
First Disintegration. Last 4:13 Dream. That's the easy part. The rest impossible to rank as love them all at various stages. Thanks for the video.
Bloodflowers was my first Cure record, so I might be slightly biased. But I love, love, love that record. Out of this world is amazing. Where the birds always sing is wonderful. Maybe someday has a great almost brit-poppish tone. The last day of summer is such a melancholic masterpiece. There is no if… remains one of my favorite of their‘s. Overall the tone of the record might be quite same-ish. But there whole atmosphere is really coherrent and captivating.
That said Pornography, Whish and The Head on the Door are better records still. Disintegration however… I really like that record but it sounds too 80s to me of you can way so. Very good but it doesn‘t grab me as much as the other mentioned records. I know: blasphemy 😛
Pornography is their best album by a country mile.
Agreed from this older guy. The darkest, heaviest, gothiest for sure when I was in college back in the 80's...also got the Disintegration cassette back then too.
Correct opinion.
All other opinions are wrong.
It is one of their best, but not their best in my opinion. It is extremely dark and it ain’t an easy listen.
@@Bartholomew_Musgrave false, it is definitely not the best album, I could give you a million and a half reasons why it isn't. its an amazing album, dont get me wrong, but there are albums that offer a lot more than what pornography has to offer.
@@klaedoe9042 I’m afraid this is probably a case of the younger generation not understanding music. Are you a zoomer?
Do feel free to tell me a few of the million and half reasons why I’m wrong.
justice for 'meathook' :(
Pornography
Disintegration
Faith
Head on the door
17 seconds
The top
Wish
Three imaginary boys
Kiss me
Blood flowers
The cure
Wild mood swings
4:13 dream
The top is highly underrated
you sad?
I totally agree with you on "The Top." Very underrated album. Much artier and darker than "Head On the Door." A great transitional record. It was the first in a string of eclectic pop albums by The Cure, and one of their most interesting.
I love blood flowers! I love the Cure! I forgot, who are you?
1. Disintegration
2. The Head on the Door
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
4. Pornography
5. Seventeen Seconds
6. Wish
7. Three Imaginary Boys
8. Japanese Whispers
9. Bloodflowers
10. Faith
11. The Top
12. Wild Moods Swings
13. 4:13 Dream
14. The Cure
great list
I just discovered the Wish album quite recently, having been a fan of the Cure back in the 80's, and feeling that I had a pretty good handle on all that they had produced and knew where the strong stuff in their line up of albums was, and when they were produced. So for me the mid 80's was the time when I thought they were at their absolute pinnacle; and that then made Wish such a nice discovery for me. For me I'd say that Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me, was their strongest album, but Wish is such a quintessentially iconic Cure album that I've just loved discovering this album late in the day.
Yep... Wish is pretty darn great.
You just like me fr.
I like Seventeen Seconds the most, it has the most calm, solid and melodic sounds, which tie together just perfectly throughout all the duration of the album. I'll never get bored of listening to it. Then it's Pornography and Disintegration for me. I'm a huge Cure fan, they've always been my most favourite band ❤🎉😊
didn't have to be that cruel with "Strange Attractions" personal favourite from Wild Mood Swings !!
Seventeen Seconds at #9? Well, it's your list......
Great performance od Pictures Of You at the ending, do you have any reference where and when was it recorded or link maybe?
ruclips.net/video/kcMEx4OHLOs/видео.html
@@tokyochuchu thank you!
Disintegration, Strange Attraction, Last Day of Summer, all essential to me.
My ranking would be quite different, but thanks for the well-made video and the reference to the rarity "close to you" 😂
1. The head on the door
2. Three imaginary boys
3. Seventeen seconds
4. Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me
5. Japanese Whispers
6. Disintegration
7. Pornography
8. The Top
9. Faith
Don´t know the rest good enough
1. The head on the door, 2. Kiss me , 3. DESINTEGRATION😮❤
A Forest the bands greatest song from SEVENTEEN SECONDS LP 1980.
01 The Head On The Door
02 Wish
03 Pornography
04 Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me
05 Disintegration
06 Faith
07 The Top
08 Seventeen Seconds
09 Three Imaginary Boys
10 Wild Mood Swings
11 4::13 Dream
12 Bloodflowers
13 The Cure
Great ranking.I agree with #1 Disintigration.They had a b- side from those sessions called "Fear of Ghosts" which is so good.I can't believe it didn't make the album. I like your channel.Hello from Seattle.
Thank you for watching!
I'm really glad to see someone else enjoys Pornography (edit, that sentence could be taken so wrong out of context, lol) as much as I do. I would've ranked them both the way you did. To me, Disintegration should have ended after Disintegration. My favorite song on Disintegration and probably my absolute favorite Cure song in general is the same deep water as you, for very personal reasons. It was also the first song by the Cure I heard.
15. The Cure
14. 4.13 Dream
13. Bloodflowers
12. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
11. Wild Mood Swings
10. The Glove - Blue Sunshine
9. Japanese Whispers
8. Three Imaginary Boys
7. Pornography
6. Wish
5. The Head on the Door
4. Disintegration
3. The Top
2. Seventeen Seconds
1. Faith
Cool. I've never seen Faith top anyone's list before. That's a unique take, I like it! 😎
@@tokyochuchu When i were a kid i had Faith + Carnage Visors on a cassette, It will aways be no 1 for me !
my number 11 and 12 could be higher if they cut out 4-5 songs on each, both mostly perfect albums....
1. Disintegration - It took years to get into the longer tracks and I agree some of them are a bit too long. But the sound of the album is gorgeous and it contains my most beloved Cure songs.
2. The Top - The album I got into the Cure and I agree that is ranked way too low in most of the Cure rankings I saw on RUclips. It's a good mixture of their darker with their poppy side.
3. Faith - My favourite of their post punk trilogy because it sounds so awesome with that deep bass and moody synths.
4. The Head On The Door - The second album I got into. Same comments as on Disintegration about gems making it up for the weaker tracks.
5. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me - Their white album containing every style they covered on their precious records.
6. 17 Seconds - Again an album that is ranked way too low in most lists. Their minimalistic approach works very well in my opinion.
7. Pornography - Never a huge fan of the album because it's a bit too weird for me. Not a hug fan but still a fan.
8. Wish - Too many songs that do not stand out because I have a "deja entendu" feel about them.
9. Three Imaginary Boys - A premature Cure but with a lot of yummy hooks in the short compositions.
10. Wild Mood Swings - The album where Robert Smith lost his golden touch.
I own Bloodflowers but never listened very much to that album. I don't own the later ones although I enjoyed a listen to their last album.
The top is pretty shitty.
Untitled is one my absolute songs. The great thing here is there are no wrong answers. All depends which songs/albums have deep personal meanings
Seventeen Seconds
Faith
Pornography
The Top
Three Imaginary Boys
Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me
Disintegration
The Head on the Door
Wish
Bloodflowers
Wild Mood Swings
413 Dream
The Cure.....
There's only one tierlist and only one The Cure, and it died at the conclusion of 82's "Thirteen Explicit Moments" tour:
1° Pornography
2° Faith
3° Seventeen Seconds
4° Three Imaginary Boys
Disintegration>
Wish>
Kiss me Kiss me Kiss me>
you can fight me on this, but these albums are objectively WAY BETTER than every one of these albums, only one debatable is Pornography.
@@klaedoe9042 i won't fight you on this because (1) I don't care about your opinion + (2) you're wrong.
They keep changing depending on my mood, but at present:
1. The Head on the Door
2. Disintegration
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
4. The Top
5. Pornography
6. Bloodflowers
7. Three Imaginary Boys
8. Faith
9. Seventeen Seconds
10. Wish
11. The Cure
12. 4:13 Dream
13. Wild Mood Swings
I don't want to put Wild Mood Swings at the bottom, but it's the only album where I find myself skipping tracks.
Yes! I've been waiting for this one! My ranking constantly changes and your commentary has definitely made me make some changes. Here's what I'm thinking as of now.
13. The Cure - Most underwhelming for me.
12. Bloodflowers - Love the last two tracks but that's about it.
11. 4.13 Dream - Usually I rank this one last but now that I think about it, this album does have more highlights than the previous two.
10. Three Imaginary Boys - This would definitely be much higher on my list if it was the US version Boys Don't Cry instead.
9. Seventeen Seconds - Love, love, love the music on "Secrets" but the vocals ultimately make it sound half-baked hence I feel that track and the two instrumentals drag the album down a bit.
8. Wild Mood Swings - Definitely a bit overlong but I do really love the variety on this album.
7. The Top - Easily their most underrated album, The Top bridges the gap between Pornography and The Head on the Door. Was friends with Andy Anderson on Facebook before he died. An underrated drummer imho. Miss you, Andy.
6. Faith - A solid third entry that I definitely feel comfortable putting just before my Top 5. A shame that "Charlotte Sometimes" wasn't included in the original release.
5. The Head on the Door - Usually I ranked this one in my Top 4 but now I'm inclined to agree there are some chinks in that armor, namely "Close to Me". That song is definitely overrated. Still, Boris Williams was definitely a great addition to the group. Definitely on par with Budgie!
4. Wish - A bit overlong but still top quality songwriting, musicianship, and singles to boot. Love that you mentioned "Doing the Unstuck". Why oh why did they not release that as a single?
3. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me - A fantastic double album that features some of their greatest hits as well as one other track that I've actually heard a few times on my favorite radio station here in the US: "How Beautiful You Are".
2. Pornography - Hands down their darkest and most nihilistic album in their discography as evidenced by the opening line: "It doesn't matter if we all die".
1. Disintegration - What can I say that hasn't already been said about this album? It truly is the band's masterpiece and definitely deserves all the praise it gets.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this ranking. Here's hoping you do Depeche Mode next and maybe somewhere down the line Siouxsie and the Banshees.
Great comment! Thanks for taking the time.
I am a very recent convert to Depeche Mode after giving them the shoulder for forty years or so, a ranking would be more than welcome... Siouxsie and the Banshees is a good call...
@@tokyochuchu Sorry, I didn't include these last night like Ste did, I thought about it, but I was a little pressed for time as it was a stormy night and I actually did have a brownout at one point in the middle of writing my first comment. Anyhoo, here are my picks for best tracks off each album in the order that I ranked them.
13. The Cure - Labyrinth, Anniversary, Taking Off
12. Bloodflowers - Maybe Someday, 39, Bloodflowers
11. 4.13 Dream - Underneath the Stars, The Only One, Siren Song, The Hungry Ghost
10. Three Imaginary Boys - Grinding Halt, Accuracy, Fire in Cairo, Three Imaginary Boys
9. Seventeen Seconds - Play for Today, Secrets, A Forest, At Night
8. Wild Mood Swings - Want, Club America, This Is a Lie, Gone!, Jupiter Crash, Numb, Return, Round & Round & Round
7. The Top - Birdmad Girl, The Caterpillar, Wailing Wall, Give Me It, Bananafishbones, The Top
6. Faith - Primary, Other Voices, All Cats Are Grey, Funeral Party, Doubt
5. The Head on the Door - A Night Like This, Sinking, Push
4. Wish - Doing the Unstuck, To Wish Impossible Things, A Letter to Elise, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea
3. Kiss Me Kiss Kiss Me - How Beautiful You Are, One More Time, Shiver and Shake, Catch, The Snakepit
2. Pornography - One Hundred Years, The Figurehead, Cold, Short-Term Effect
1. Disintegration - Pictures of You, Closedown, Lullaby, Fascination Street, Prayers for Rain, Disintegration
The three-in-a-row of The Top/Head On The Door/Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is my fav era of The Cure. The Top is def. underrated. The Most psychadelic of their albums I reckon.
Haven’t listened to every album so I’ll just do my top 10 songs
1. Close To Me
I know you don’t like how it’s whispered but I think that adds a real vulnerability to the song. It’s a song that’s also been there with me, soundtracking the best and worst times of my life.
2. Lovecats
I love how catchy it is and I’ve had this song play through some of my best days.
3. Plainsong
It’s Beautiful and depressing. Almost like your transferring into a another world.
4. Love song
It’s got The Cure’s best lyrics and an amazing sound.
5. Fascination Street
It may be long but it’s an life changing experience.
This like most songs on this list has been with me since early childhood and it’s had large lasting impression on me.
6. Friday I’m Love. Not much to say about this one other than it being one of The Cure’s catchiest.
7. Pictures of You
Amazing song, always loved it. I heard it to many times for it to get a reaction out of my, but it’s such a perfectly written song It’s got to be in my top 10.
8. Let’s Go To Bed
Catchy, energetic, really fun.
9. Primary
A recent favorite my mine. I love the energy, Robert Smith’s vocals on it, all that bass. It’s kinda catchy too.
10. Distentigration
You can kinda tell what my favorite Cure album is at this point. This is a great way to close off one of the best albums of all time.
I've loved The Cure since about 1985 so just pre-Just Like Heaven and all the attention they got around that time. I'd have to say that I think they have four albums I rank a bit below the rest, my mood would really change my ranking. I'd definitely put Faith and Head On The Door higher than you did and I think I'd definitely put Pornography and Disintegration as their two 'best' albums, I think overall I'd have to say that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me is my favorite. At least today. Mixed Up is 100% their album I've listened to the most over the last 10 years or so. Great band. So many great songs and so many high points on most of their albums but as you say, several low points. Well, maybe more 'filler' than actual low points.
You killed my heart by stating that Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me doesn’t have any classic Cure songs on it when in fact it has their most classic track. Their most definitive track in my own subjective opinion. “Just Like Heaven” is pure Cure pop perfection. No song sums up the 80s as wonderfully as this track. It’s defined the band and introduced them to generations of new fans. The Cute have suitcases full of hits and amazing songs, but none hit the zeitgeist like Juat Like Heaven. Shameful…
Sorry about that. I prefer Catch myself.
@@tokyochuchu I like Catch more than Just Like Heaven sometimes.
Catch and the perfect girl are magnificent songs
Agree with you on The Top and I disagree with you on Bloodflowers. Since you don’t like Close To Me on The Head On The Door what do you think of the single version? Cause it’s very different.
I have to throw up my hands and say I've not heard it. I'll have to check it out.
Top 5 for me
1. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
2. Disintegration
3. Head on the Door
4. Wish
5. Pornography
I really like Disintegration even think it is number 2, but my favorite is and always will be Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me. I have never understood why this album is so underrated. Other favorites are Head on the Door which is almost a tie for number 2 but the greater running length and consistency of Pornography puts it a bit above, and then Wish and Pornography. These five are great albums in my opinion.
Want, Jupiter Crash and Mint Car are three of the very best Cure songs ever, all on Wild Mood Swings
1.pornography
2. Bloodflowers /faith
3.disintegration
4.17 seconds
Ihave been a cure fan for over 35 years you are having a laugh bloodflowers is a great album def in my top 5.
YESSSS
This shade being thrown on Bloodflowers is expected if you don’t recognize or resonate with the themes and instead focus on the sound instead. Because I didn’t for a while starting off as a Cure fan with Disintegration, of all albums, setting the precedent. It is also worth saying that it is quite mood dependent. If you revisit it and are more receptive it is a focused and definitive Cure album that doesn’t pigeonhole their sound in the slightest considering what the goal of the album was. I think it actually expands on the sound and the tone is different which is why I don’t think it’s a carbon copy of Disintegration like you make it out to be. Also I had no idea Dressing Up was hated. It’s one of the better songs on the album so much so that Robert saved it from both the Banshees and the Glove. You could very easily make a copy pasta out of this but regardless I think you should re-examine Bloodflowers and find fulfillment in it.
Sure... I could see it being a grower perhaps. I know lots of fans really dig it.
I love your enlightment of Bloodflower's, and Dressing up. Dressing up is definitely one of the best tracks of the top, I can never understand why it gets hate. Although I guess it could be the same reason on why Deftones get hate, and that is the style of singing that both have.
12. The Cure
11. Wild Mood Swings
10. Bloodflowers
9. Three Imaginary Boys
8. Wish
7. Seventeen Seconds
6. The Head on the Door
5. Faith
4. The Top
3. Disintegration
2. Pornography
1. Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (cos it's the album that pretty much perfectly shows everything The Cure can do, and that covers every mood!)
KMKMKM generally always holds the top spot for me, but the other 6 albums in the top 7 change around often, depending on my mood. Sometimes Wish even creeps higher up, cos it has some of my favourite Cure songs on it (Open, The Edge of the Deep Green Sea, A Letter to Elise...), even if it's inconsistent and has too much middling material (I'm excited for the upcoming 30th anniversary deluxe edition, though!) 4:13 Dream isn't in my ranking cos it's the only album of theirs I've never actually owned or heard... probably because for me there was diminishing returns post-Wish and I really didn't care for the s/t at all, so (perhaps unfairly) gave up afterwards...
definately take a listen to 4:13 dream, i dont care for the self titled at all,but 4:13 dream has some really good songs especially the opening song sadly the production & mixing was a little butchered on this album
@@dynamo4543 Okay, will give it a go for sure - thanks!
I definitely don't think wish is inconsistent, yes the happy songs seem out of place at first, but honestly, They flow really well into the album the more you listen to it. Wish is top 3 for me, because there are a lot that you can dissect from it that people haven't really tried noticing yet, and Its honestly one of the cures most well written (even though that's a tough statement to say, because the cure has ALOT of well written pieces of music. Also, when I mean well written, I mean both lyrically and musically. This album has some of the cures most melochonic lead harmonies out of their entire discography, and its a album where Roberts poetic style of writing really shines through. It is an album that is, in my opinion, comparable to Disintegration. Hell, it is disintegration if it was written for the 90's
@@klaedoe9042 Yeh, perhaps inconsistent was the wrong word. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Wish and think it is very much underrated in their catalogue... I think ultimately it's just that I'm not that much of a fan of 'Friday I'm in Love' - and not even really because it's not a good song, but more because it's been overplayed/overused to such an extent that it's become a bit of a cliche that I can't really comfortably listen to anymore (much like R.E.M.'s 'Everybody Hurts'). Again, a lot of my favourite Cure songs are on Wish, and it's probably the album of theirs I have the most personal connection with as it's the first one of theirs I bought upon release (it was my first actual full length of theirs, in fact - before Wish came out I only had the tape of Standing on a Beach/Staring at the Sea and songs on various artists compilation albums, including Lullaby on a Now 15 tape... 😂). Also, my ranking of their discography (which really is an impossible task anyways!) has changed a bit since I posted my first comment a year or so ago (especially now the deluxe edition has come out) and Wish would now probably be top 5 (and even though it may keep it's current spot, I've learnt to appreciate Bloodflowers more, too!)
Blood Flowers is a masterpiece like Disintergration and Wish
I remember being disappointed with Wild Mood Swings when it came out. But over two decades on, it's become one of my top 7 cure albums. To me, the album as a whole has enough elements of what I love about Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me to go advise Robert to make another album like those two albums and market it as the completion of another super special trilogy :D
I remember buying wild mood swings the first time it came out and seeing them on tour during that era. I was pretty disappointed but over the years have come to love wild mood swings... I would go so far as to say that wild mood swings was truly the last cure album that ever took any real chances! Everything sense has been Cure by numbers... The last two albums were so poorly produced they were practically inaudible to listen too..
Ofcourse the whispering adds up to Close To Me. I can imagine my beloved one whispering in my ear when she's close to me.
My favourite album is "Seventeen seconds".
Unbelievable… my top five cure songs include almost exactly the same as you: strange days, fascination street, Picture of you, Push, and Plainsong (#1)… the only difference is I would replace Trust by A night like this!
I guess everyone experiences albums in different ways. For my part, I discovered The Cure in early 1982, Pornography had not been released yet so their more recent album was Faith which has remained my favourite since. I followed the band's evolution from there. To me their imperial phase is definitely what I'd call their "new wave" (rather than calling it "goth") period that is Seventeen Seconds / Faith /Pornography. I welcomed their pop phase compiled on Japanese Whispers and the following (more psychedelic) album The Top. What followed was more or less the same, albeit less interesting... The Head on the Door and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me coincided with their worldwide success which I think diluted the essence of The Cure and they became less special. Disintegration was a return to form in 1989 and became a blueprint for modern-day The Cure. Wish was a mish-mash of everything that came before but still a good album if a little light compared to the dark sea that is Disintegration... then I think the band lost their way: Bloodflowers, Wild Mood Swings, The Cure and 4:13 Dream are all mediocre records with the odd gem here and there. Finally, Songs of a Lost World shows Smith at the helm of a new majestic phase although it would work perfectly as a closing chapter but I heard there will be another album soon enough which might tarnish the acclaim of this new album. We'll see...
01. Faith (1981)
02. Seventeen Seconds (1980)
03. Pornography (1982)
04. Japanese Whispers (1983)
05. Disintegration (1989)
06. Songs of a Lost World (2024)
07. The Top (1984)
08. Wish (1992)
09. The Head On the Door (1985)
10. Three Imaginary Boys (1979)
i guess i’m a sad school girl and i love the instrumental in bloodflowers so much idk i appreciate the instrumental and the sounds and all that. i think it’s genius so idk, but i like your opinion but i don’t know why everyone is hating on that album lol. i live all their other albums i just appreciate the cure in every way…. they are pure musicians.
I wish you’d listed them in the description comments
13. Three Imaginary Boys
12. The Cure
11. 4_13 Dream
10. Bloodflowers
09. Kiss Me
08. 17 Seconds
07. Wild Mood Swings
06. The Top
05. Head on the Door
04. Faith
03. Wish
02. Pornography
01. Disintegration
The title track from The Top is one of their most underrated/unknown songs, it's in the top 10 for me.. the most mystical track they have..
I completely agree! A terrific song and one of their best album closers. “Please come back, all of you…”
Nice seeing Wish getting some love. I read way too many negative things written about it.
Obviously this is subjective. As for 4:13 Dream. Did you know that It's Over has words? I was not aware of this until a year ago when I heard them during a concert I was watching. I think I have a broken, but awesome version of it and what's stupid is it's the version I ripped from the CD.
You may wanna do some re-editing to get a few titles right… 😉 I think that’s more annoying than any 'controversial' placing of the records.
I'm an amateur. I think that's kind of part of the fun of my channel. I'm often a bit sloppy and always slightly drunk. But yeah, I know I kept refering to The Head on the Door as A Head on the Door and I also lost the 'The' on The Same Deep Water as You and also referred to it as something wierd because of drunkenness at one point. But it's all part of the breakage.
What is everyone’s opinion on the Disintegration singles that were remixed by Mark Saunders? I personally hate the Pictures Of You single version but I kinda like the subtle differences on Lovesong single. The Disintegration version has a more striking guitar sound.
I liked the let's go to bed milk mix
You're most definitely not alone with that. The Pictures of You single version is lacking and does not have that magic and spark of the original mix which is quite sad especially when introducing new people to the song. They go straight to the single version. 😔 I think the mix is ok if you already know the song as it gives a few alternative dropouts but overall, it's not anywhere close to the beauty of the original! I adore the Disintegration, Show and Vow versions 🥰
Ok with most of your comments, but: Disintegration (song) is one of the most important Cure songs (for Robert, too, I think) and definitely not a song too much on the LP!
I enjoyed this video and like your ranking of the albums, but I can't believe you compared 'Open' from Wish to Oasis! 😅
Really? I think that has a kind of pre Oasis vibe to it...🤔 Thanks for watching!
@@tokyochuchu Do you mean the music or the lyrics? I don't hear it in either, tbh, but am interested to know what it is about it that links it to Oasis for you!
@@slothDAMN It's both. It has that working class British vibe to the lyrics about going down the pub and getting drunk and also has the meat and potatoes pub-rock style of an Oasis composition. All droning distortion and steady rythems, like a lot of the songs on Oasis's debut album Definitely Maybe. At least, that's how I personally hear it.
@@tokyochuchu Ah, okay. I guess I get what you mean on a very base level, but the lyrics to 'Open' are WAAAAAAY more poetic and descriptive than any Oasis lyrics, plus I wouldn't say that it's really about a lad's night out at the pub or whatnot (which is more of an Oasis kinda vibe, even though I don't think they ever really had a song about such a thing?) Open is far more introspective than that and the narrator is clearly confused, drunk in an unpleasant way, and most likely suffering from alcoholism and some kind of social anxiety. As well as this, the music is also woozy in a way that, combined with the vocals, almost makes the listener feel the way the narrator is describing - which is something I'm fairly sure Oasis never did with their definitely very meat and potatoes music. This is also just my opinion, of course, but that's how I hear/feel it!
Pro tip regarding Disintegration. Create a playlist that omits Last Dance and Homesick; this is how the album initially came out on vinyl. CDs ruined the album format with many bands, especially The Cure, stuffing the extra running time with second-rate material.
I can't say I agree with you about Seventeen Seconds. Innovative, delicate, deliberate, sensitive, restrained, haunted and beautiful. It is sparse, but sometimes less really is more; one of the finest albums by anyone, ever.
I stick by what I said about Seventeen Seconds, but that's a pro-tip about Disintegration. I will try that!
Great point about Disintegration, I didn’t really think about it, but I did know there were two tracks on the cd that weren’t on the original lp. I’ll have to try listening to it the ‘right’ way.
@@tokyochuchu Fun fact for those who weren't there at the time. Everyone I knew hated Wish, such a disappointment after Disintegration. Friday I'm in Love was being played on commercial radio - how embarrassing! When The Cure came to town, they played in a huge arena filled with normies (not the word we used at the time). It was the end of our secret little world.
@@aaronr.walker1870 I can imagine that stung a little.
@@tokyochuchu Oh yeah, I couldn't forgive them for Wish for years. I stayed away until they released Bloodflowers, came back to town and played the best damn show I ever saw.
omggggg before three is underrated
Still have to say the first album but saw them live for the first time in 1978 but I like the first four for sure and The Head on the Door i think is a good pop album .
Couldn't agree more re; The Top. To me it's the template for The Cure's fascinatingly schizophrenic and highly colorful future and I could never understand why fans ranked it so low.
Just can’t wrap my head around the hate for Wild Mood Swings I think it’s a delight from beginning to end and a different side of the cure
1 Pornography
2 Disintegration
3 Bloodfowers
4 The head on the door
5 Seventeen seconds
6 4:13 dream
17 seconds, i love it! Subjective!
This List is eerily similar to mine. with just one small difference. I'd swap Wish and Pornography. My top 4 are Disintegration, Wish, Kiss Me, Pornography. I would agree with the rest of your list. Now I know this is not the common opinion. But Wish and Kiss me are more personal to me, as those were the years I found the cure. They say your favorite music, you will every have in your whole life, are the ones you discovered in high school. that is certainly the case for me. 87-92 were great years to be a Cure fan.
1.Disintegration
2.Pornography
3.Seventeen Seconds
4.Three Imaginary Boys
5.Wish
I don't really like Bloodflowers, I think its mostly super boring. But your comparisons of its tracks to Disintegration tracks are bigger reaches than Halo. None of those sound like each other very much at all haha. Still a nice ranking, I can appreciate hot takes. I know I sure as hell have them (I think Kiss Me is bottom 5).
Would I ranked them differently from a personnal perspective... probably... but objectively.. I have to agree with you... good job!!
Everyone sleeping on Bloodflowers I don't get it lol
The placings of Seventeen Seconds, Faith & and Pornography are my one surprise, all got played endlessly in the early eighties but they just do not have the same effect on me these days... The Cure are my second favorite band of all time behind the Beatles but ranking the Beatles would be much easier...
13 - The Cure... Underwhelming is definitely the word to describe this but I still like it ... Best tracks ... Before Three, The End Of The World...
12 - 4:13 Dream... This is interchangeable with the last placed album ... Best tracks ... The Only One, Underneath The Stars...
11 - Seventeen Seconds... For me the weakest of the trilogy ... Best tracks ... A Forest, Seventeen Seconds & 'M'...
10 - Bloodflowers... I like this album but for me few standout tracks ... Best tracks ... There Is No If & Maybe Someday...
09 - Faith... I listened to this album relentlessly for weeks around early '82 ... Best tracks ... Primary & The Drowning Man....
08 - Wild Mood Swings ... It is long, too long but I do like the variety and the highs are as good as anything on my top five ... Best tracks ... This Is A Lie, Mint Car & Treasure...
07 - Three Imaginary Boys... I bought the 'Boys Don't Cry' LP around '80/ early '81 and wish I was ranking that (it would rise a couple of places) Jumping Someone Else's Train, Boys Don't Cry & Killing An Arab were all welcome additions ... Best tracks ... Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night & Fire In Cairo...
06 - Pornography... It's a dark but glorious album ... Best tracks ... One Hundred Years, The Hanging Garden & Cold...
05 - The Top... Together with the compilation Japanese Whispers I thought my love affair with the Cure was over, I hated The Walk & Let's Go To Bed, my flat mate bought both albums but I was not that taken with them... Fortunately The Smiths & Lloyd Cole (Commotions) came along to fill this brief gap... BUT this album has grown on me immensely over recent years ... Best tracks ... Shake Dog Shake, The Caterpillar (I bought the 12" & the single, this will always be one of my all timers) & Bananafishbones...
04 - Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me... For me there is not a great deal to separate this & Wish ... Best tracks ... Catch (truly gorgeous), Hot Hot Hot, Why Can't I Be You...
03 - Wish... Best tracks ... Friday I'm In Love (pop perfection), High, To Wish Impossible Things, A Letter To Elise...
02 - The Head On the Door... With this album I fell back in love with the Cure, this time the affair is life long, it's a 5/5 album but it could have been better, the 'In Between Days' 12" had two great tacks 'The Exploding Boy' & 'A Few Hours After This'... 'The Baby Screams' I like but had it been replaced with 'The Exploding Boy' this may have displaced Disintegration ... Best tracks ... In Between Days, Screw & Push (A contender for No. 1 Cure song)... I like Close To Me...
01 - Disintegration... It is a masterpiece in my view, for some reason I can't stand 'Fascination Street' but the rest are perfection ... Best tracks ... Plainsong, Lullaby, Closedown & Pictures Of You (possibly my favourite Cure song)...
I will get around to ranking The Beatles at some point. And also doing top ten albums of the year from '65 to '79.
@@tokyochuchu Already looking forward
10. Boys dont Cry
9. 17 Seconds
8. The Cure
7. Wish
6. The Head on the Door
5. Pornography
4. The Top
3. Disintegration
2. Faith
1. Kiss Me Kiss me Kiss me
1. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
2.Disentigration
3. Wish
4.Pornography
5. The Head on the Door
6. The Top
7. Seventeen Seconds
This is my current ranking, the rest of the albums I need to give more re-listens to to properly give them a good ranking. I haven't listened to the self titled album or 4:13 dream, but I firmly believe the cure really doesnt have any bad albums. 1 and 2 are really interchangeable, since both I believe are equally masterpieces, it just depends on which one I'm willing to relisten to over and over lmao. 3 and 4 as well, even though thematically they are not the same, however, they share many similarities writing wise. imho Wish is definitely more re-listenable though, it is masterpiece song writing at more digestible state. These four albums could all be the best the cure has to offer, if one or the other didn't exist, which is something I love about the cure, they have more than one masterpiece. Number 5 is also a masterpiece in its own right, however, it falls short only because it doesnt have MORE. I definitely feel like the album could be a few songs longer, I think including The exploding boy and Stop Dead could've helped add more spice to it (it is one of my favorite sounds from the cure, specifically talking about the HOTD era). Number 6 is definitely the most slept on Cure record, It is really fun with great to amazing experimentation, with some great standouts in my opinion, with the least interesting tracks being good but not enough to stand out with the others (basically the last three tracks, they are interesting, however, they don't really hold up with the other 7). Seventeen seconds will always be a fun, great listen. its just too short, with too many in-between "rest time" tracks that I feel aren't really needed when your album only has like 5 real songs. Its basically just an Ep, However some of my favorite bangers are from this album, so I cant complain too much. Its also the first album ive listened to of the cure discography, so its gonna have a higher spot than every album on the rest of the list, even if some may be a bit better
Bloodflowers is a fantastic album definitely not a number 13
My favourite album is your number 1 ❤
Thank you for your video and your opinion.
As an old and loooooooong die hard Curefan #13 - 4:13 Dream and #1 - Pornography.
#2 - #12 who cares.
🤣
For me they have made only one weak album (4.13 Dream which has 3 or 4 good songs but most of it is very bland to me) and the rest ranges from ok to great
13.4.13 Dream
12.Wild Mood Swings
11.The Cure
10.Three Imaginary Boys
9.Bloodflowers
8.The Top
7.Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
6.Head On The Door
5.Seventeen Seconds
4.Wish
3.Faith
2.Pornography
1.Disintegration (my favourite album of all time)
01- The Head on the door
02- Kiss me kiss me kiss me
03- Disintegration
04- Wish
05- 17 Seconds
06- Three Imaginary Boys
07- The Top
08- The Cure
09- Bloodflowers
10- Faith
11- Pornography
12- Wild Mood Swings
13- 4.13 Dream
It's hard to rate their discography because some fans are more into the gothic/dark stuff and others into the more pop-sounding records. Some people will watch other people's lists and think "Oh my God how could he rate that record over this or that". Regardless of the style one prefers there is no denying Robert Smith is a genius writer.
TokyoChuchu hates Close To Me so much, he refuses to associate himself with it and calls it Close To You. Haha! I've never understood why Pornography always ranks so high on the list of favorite albums. I've owned this album since the 80s and think I've played it straight through more than a dozen times....mostly because the few songs I really like from it made it into various compilations...but then again, I like Close To Me and A Perfect Girl...and (Kiss Me)x3 is my favorite album by the Cure, so my tastes deviate from the typical fan.
Did I refer to it as Close to You? Ah... That's embarrassing. 🙈 Although, I didn't know The Cure had an album called Hot Hot Hot. 😜 Peas in a pod you and I it seems...
@@tokyochuchu that's hilarious, that's what I get for typing while I was listening to you talk. I think you mentioned the song and I transposed the "Kiss Me" with the "Hot", too funny.
Your accent is insane - it seems like a Brit accent but then you have hard R's... is that an actual dialect over there or have you lived in America a long time or something?
I'm British but I have lived in Japan for 18 years teaching American English. It messes with your accent for sure. My English family tell me I sound less and less English with each passing year.
@@tokyochuchu thanks, that makes sense now!
Mostly agree but Wish will always be my #1
My top 5 in no particular order
Disintegration
Pornography
Head on the door
The Cure
4:13 Dream
I am an old fan. I suspect a few of the older fans will agree with this
1. Pornography
2 . Faith
3. 17 Seconds
4. The Top
5. Three Imaginary Boys
Every album after these had a moment or two but they changed the direction of what they wanted for their fan base. Never Enough was probably their last inspired track. I saw them live in 92 or 93. It was such a disappointment. I lost my love for them after that.
Oh wow. I've never considered how The Cure are live. Sorry to hear that they might suck.
They are amazing live
@@tokyochuchu they absolutely the best when it comes to their live performances. Kinda infamous on that as well.
Well...1985 is the greatest year in the history of music so... 🙂
this is a can of worms ..... EVERYBODY has a different rank for each Album
As soon as you said Bloodflowers 13 I switched off as that is just ridiculous
dont agree much but it's your list not mine
That's the way subjectivity works. I'm glad to see you have some serious passion for Kill Uncle. That album is always underappreciated.
They were not a alternative rock band of the 80's. That wasn't even coined til the 90's.
It’s never easy choosing which is better between Pornography and Disintegration. It switches all the time.
It's much easier for me to stick with Paris and Show .
A Head on the Door is #1 and everyone knows it
Bloodflowers is incredible don’t listen to this man
Very good band but for me they're inferior to the best 80s Alt bands the Smiths, Chameleons, New Order and the Bunnymen.
01:45 Nicee