Episode 178 - 2023 Cadillac LYRIQ 450E RWD - Most-Detailed Review!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Well, grab some popcorn and sit back in your comfy seat for what is most likely, the longest and most detailed review on the Cadillac LYRIQ out there on RUclips! I spent a couple of days gathering lots of content to provide about this fantastic new all-electric offering from Cadillac and I hope you enjoy it!
My thanks for Cadillac Canada for inviting me down to Park City, Utah for a media drive event to explore this all new BEV!
LYRIQ sets the standard for the future of Cadillac. It is a high-performance luxury experience with the latest automotive technology - in an all-new electric vehicle package.
The LYRIQ represents the future of Cadillac. It elevates an iconic brand through superior technology, premium craftsmanship and dedication to delivering unparalleled performance.
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TOWING Correction: Hi all, I confirmed with Cadillac that the RWD Version does NOT have a certified tow rating at this time. Sorry for stating a 2,000 lbs capability in my review. There are no official trailering provisions for the RWD version.
Cadillac has told me that the MY23 AWD version, equipped with trailering provisions, can tow up to 3,500 lbs.
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In the initial launch editions, I understand that there is no HUD. However, a Cadillac official says a HUD will be available later this year, possibly with similar, but not identical, augmented reality as seen in the Escalade. So I would expect it to be on 2023 models.
Also, regarding rear heated seats, I thought I had seen switch controls and remember Cadillac stating that they would be coming with this feature. Turns out again, that the Launch Edition (which this vehicle was) will not have this feature, but in 2023 Cadillac will offer the Lyriq with heated rear outboard seats.
I've learned that this comfort feature is not available for the Lyriq Debut Edition. Rather, it will become available later in the year for subsequent models as more trim levels are added to the all-new luxury electric crossover’s roster. It should be noted that the Debut Edition is based on Cadillac’s Luxury trim, which is considered the entry-level (base) model per the Y-trim level strategy.
The Launch Edition is limited, with a production run of about 2,500-3,000 units. Other Trims will come out in 2023 with an anticipated production capacity of about 20,000 units. I understand these are sold out as well with reservations. Will have to watch to see how they can scale up.
My thanks to a viewer for pointing this out, however even with my errors, I still hold to my review and believe the LYRIQ is a fantastic BEV that is a very worth choice, especially at the price point for what you get.
Wow, thanks for the update. Pretty good tow capacity. Nice way to travel in style. Lol 👍👍
Just about every review has been VERY postive so far. Well done video. I ordered one. I have six concerns: 1. Weight. 2. 5G implementation without the ability to turn it off 3. It's a first year vehicle and there will be issues. 4. It's not an 800v system so it won't be among the fastest to charge. 5. No rear wiper. 6. No bumpers! That front glass grill looks particularly vulnerable. This is a make it or break it vehicle for Caddy, so they better make damn sure it's nearly flawless and reliable over the long run. It's already a great value.
Thanks for watching. Congrats on ordering one, another tailpipe will be gone which is great as well as you joining the "Revolution".
All good points, however I would suspect GM to stand behind the product so if any first-year issues arise, they will deal with it. All BEVs are heavy, which actually makes them safer. Bumpers are integrated into the chassis with larger front and rear crumple zones and stronger structural integrity providing greater side-impact resistance and the main thing, greater occupant safety. Let the car absorb the crash energy and smush, not the people inside the car. I'd rather have a car written off and walk away from a serious accident then the opposite. Cars can be replaced...people?
It will have ample charging speeds for DC fast charging to keep you in a 30 minute or less scenario, with the applicable chargers, while road-tripping so no need for an 800v architecture. For the price point, it is a really great BEV. Thanks for the comments and feedback.
Excellent information, very well done. I placed my name on the wait list for 2024 awd. 500 hp too good to pass up!
Hello and thanks for watching and for the feedback! Great to see you will love it!
Great move Shasta, that vehicle will be a beautiful and comfy electric beast! :)
Hey Ken, great review! Very detailed and thorough. I look forward to seeing the Lyriq in person. For production ramp that is all going to be dependent on battery cell capacity. Currently all of GM's NCMA cells are coming off of a low volume pilot production line (It's why Hummer EV production is low). This will all change in August when the Ultium Lordstown facility is supposed to start production. GM's EV strategy will unfold as battery cell capacity unfolds. Like the Mercedes EQS the Lyriq is going to need a DCFC that is capable of 500A to hit it's peak charging rate. That can be tricky to find (as even some 350KW stations are only rated for 350A @ 1000VDC). The Lyriq needs 500A at 380VDC to hit it's peak. I think most ABB and Signet units can hit that but most BTC Power are only rated for 350A.
Thanks Erik for watching and for the feedback and great info!
Thanks Kenneth great information 👍
What a beautiful car.
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback! Glad you liked it!
I think I like this car is better than my model Y. Very nice 👍
Thanks for this exceptional video Ken, it was wonderful to see the way you captured discussions with so many of the Lyriq developers. It's a very impressive and well designed EV, and it seems like a great value for the segment with the features and performance it offers. I heard there was no towing available with RWD which seems odd. I also heard AWD is expected to to be only 2k USD or 3k Cdn additional which sounds like a great value, as long as efficiency isn't too greatly affected.
Thank JP as always! I am sure I heard someone mention the towing and I'll pin a comment on it. I too heard that the pricing difference from the RWD to AWD may not be that much, however will have to wait to see it.
@@EVRevolution yes, it might be that they haven't confirmed the rating for RWD yet Ken, rather than not being able to tow. You looked very comfortable in that ride, perhaps it will be the next KenMobile in a few years time :)
Ken, one thing that I need to point out to you about the LYRIQ. On the rear door when you press the door handle, there is a soft plastic pad to grab onto on the same level like the electronic door handle inside the door instead of touching the area of the window. Overall, enjoyed your long overview of the LYRIQ.
Thanks for watching! Yes, I would suspect after spending more time with this vehicle I would grab the correct position for pulling open the rear doors. I generally never sit in the back of any vehicle we own, since I am always the driver. For my Model 3, I don't grab the windows either.
Best overall review I’ve seen so far! If your OCD about finger prints like me all those glossy black buttons will make you crazy.
Thanks Jeff, appreciate you watching and the feedback! Yes, I was waiting for someone to comment on those fingerprints...you are the first! I would certainly get some sort of matt screen protector for it if one comes out.
Caddy sell everyone they can make [unless price goes up out of control] Probably won't make enough.
Thanks for watching. Yes production numbers may be lower than I hope, however it is still a great BEV.
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@@EVRevolution /p
Appreciated the info on consumption. Anxious to see a highway range test. Too bad production levels seem to be so low. This could be a big seller for GM.
Thanks for watching! I think will do ok on consumption. Yes prob low volumes but who knows, we could be surprised.
Yes, initial production may be low but hopefully it ramps up in time. It will be interesting to see if they develop other GM variants of this model, perhaps even more competitively priced for a more basic version
@@jamespaul2587 Chevy has the slightly less expensive Blazer EV coming out the summer 2023 which is almost indentical in size as the Lyriq.
You did a great review of a beautiful car. Thanks, Ken !! 😎
Btw, looking forward to seeing
you and all the EV Society members who will be showing their cars at your EVS Caledon chapter event this Saturday. Cheers !!
Much thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Drove this (RWD) back to back against the respective bmw/Audi/model Y. Unreal how much cheaper the other three (interior) felt compared to lyriq. BMW definitely had more power than this single motor version but was very surprised that the Lyriq beat the BMW on handling around hard corners on a small track we tested it on. Very excited for the AWD to come out but hoping there are no more delays :-/
Also possibly helpful to anyone interested, the version in this video has a black (don’t know the name) pillar? Rail? above the doors from windshield to rear,… anyway I don’t know the name but was told by Cadillac that this part (on all future production) will actually be color keyed to whatever the exterior color is instead of the black. (For better or worse)
Thanks for watching and yes, what you get for the pricing is really good.
Super Show buddy and very beautiful car 🚗 ❤️
Thank you 👍
The 'handle' for the rear door isn't on the glass, but on door itself. You can see it when you open it.
Thanks for watching. Yes someone else mentioned that and if I spent more time with the car, I would figure that out. Same like I don't grab the glass for opening my Model 3.
Superb and very detailed., Thank You so much. I booked it and Can’t wait to get my AWD in 2023 💕💕
Thanks for watching and the feedback. Congrats' on you making the choice to get an EV!
Thank you for a very detailed review of the Lyriq. Just a question does the door handles light up at night? In some video it lights up and in other it doesn't at night.
Thanks for watching Kevin and for the feedback. Yes they do light up.
@@EVRevolution Great! Thank you again
Great job, Ken! Cheers
Thanks!
Learned lots. Thanks. I have a reservation and will see the car on Nov 11 at my local dealership. I wish GM would spend more time sourcing HUD than putting on a ridiculous light show. which was kind of unnecessary.. The light show is what I would have expected from the old GM, not a GM that is totally committed to a different world moving ahead. I have owned Cadillacs before and currently have a 2012 Volt which I would like to replace with the Lyriq.
Thanks for watching and the feedback! Congrats on your reservation and I am sure you will love it more when you see it in person. Agreed with the light show, it's really not a big deal.
Thanks!
Hi John, wow much thanks for watching and the donation!
Hello, are they using 5 g now for their in car wifi? What are the average download speeds?
Thanks for watching! I am not sure if they are using 4 or 5G and don't have the download speeds.
Awesome Video Ken. Keep up the great detailed reviews.
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback!
Excellent review, the details I was looking for.
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback.
Great video thankyou. So is this closer to a BMW level with tech and luxury? Looks like a worthy entry but nothing comes cheap these days.
Appreciate the feedback too! Yes, very high level of tech and luxury for sure. Yes, $70K CAD is not cheap, however compared to similar BEVs, it is a very well priced offering!
Tim Grewe publicly said that GM will not recommend charging to anything less than 100%. They seem to think battery degradation is not a concern. We shall see about that.
Thanks for watching! I would double check with GM on this as you don't want to do anything that might jeopardize the warranty. That being said, if it is 100% then GM will need to back it up with the warranty if the SoC goes below the warrantied percentage within the term/mileage.
Did you have a chance to experience the AKG radio? If so, what are your thoughts?
Hello and thanks for watching! Yes I did and it is a fantastic system! Coupled with the ultra-quiet noise canceling and ride, the music sound quality is excellent!
@@EVRevolution thank you!
Does this car have a rearview camera and a heads up display?
Thanks for watching! I believe they are available under trim packages. It's been well over a year since I reviewed the Launch Edition that Cadillac has changed some trim packaging, so best to consult your region website or talk to a dealer on specific options.
Nice video. It would have been interesting the hear the difference between the Active Noise Cancelling being turned on and off at highway speeds.
Thanks for watching and for the comment. I think it's on by default but maybe next time when I get one locally to spend more time with it, I can remember to try that (if you can turn it on/off).
thanks! please clean your camera lens for future videos...
Thanks for watching!
I still can not understand why Cadillac didn’t include a Heads Up Display system in the Lyriq, something that is becoming more and more a popular and trendy option in many lower class brands
Thanks for watching. HUDs are still not that popular as one might think. I for one am not a fan of them and find them actually distracting, contrary to what they are designed for. However, I am old school having driven for over 41 years so I am used to lack of technology. I believe no HUD here to keep costs down.
All 2024 will have HUD............Paul
Great review, why didn't you cover the auto-pilot, ultra-pilot feature, or did I just miss it? Is it standard on the Lyric?
Hello and thanks for watching. Good question. I most of the time do cover this feature. I believe since these were pre-production units which did not have the up to date software, the Super Cruise system was not enabled at that time, hence could not try it out.
However, if you watch my Bolt EUV review from last year, you will see the system at work and it's basically the same experience.
And yes, Super Cruise is standard on the LYRIQ. For all the specs, check out Cadillac's website.
Soft close door??? Please explain I didn't see this feature at the detroit auto show
Thanks for watching. I had thought it will pull the door close if you don't put enough force into the close. I may have been wrong, as the doors closed quite easily and very nicely.
If it does not have that feature, then what I meant to say is that the doors close very softly, again you don't need to put a lot of effort into closing them like with some autos.
@@EVRevolution they did close nicely when I tested it at the auto show but I was under the impression from your video it had soft close like my BMW. But not a big deal 👍
There seems to be some low end rumble when you where getting up to speed. Did you hear it when you were driving it.
Thanks for watching! No I did not, might have been tire noise from the roads. It is super quiet inside.
Did I hear that right? No rear windshield wiper? Were the engineers at GM drunk when they designed this thing?
Thanks for watching. Yes correct, many are not providing rear wipers for CUVs/smaller SUV and some hatches. This is not uncommon as we can see examples of this going back to the 1970s. However, this seems to be the trend and designers are using wind and aerodynamics to do the job of clearing the rear window. We will see how this works in practical terms, but many other BEVs don't have rear wipers, like the Model Y as an example.
No alcohol was used during GM's engineers planning sessions I can assure you.
Music background distracting. Can it after intro.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Cadillac needs to add state of charge in % in Energy view, very important!
Thanks for watching and great suggestion.
I wish the vehicle had the ability to turn off the fake engine noise in every mode of driving. Second I wish it had a pet mode to leave the HVAC on as well as have the ability to contact my phone if the HVAC cannot maintain setpoint or the battery is low.
Thanks for watching. I believe you can disable the sounds, but don't quite remember. Also, the only thing you could try is leave it in accessory mode and lock the doors. That may work the same way as Pet Mode.
It will interface with an APP and provide functionality as you describe ref: HVAC I believe.
The doors will be a problem to open in the states that have freezing rain sleet in the winter time.
Thanks for watching. We will see as it's not as big of a problem as you may think. That would not stop me from getting one and I live in Ontario where we do get lots of ice and freezing rain.
I’m trying to get a perspective on the interior room. How tall are you?
Hey Keith, thanks for watching. 5'7".
Live in a townhome and the length of the charge cord is important . Do you know the length of the cord? thank you
Thanks for watching Joe. I don't recall as we never discussed the L1/L2 Charging Cord length. However, looking at my video again, I would guess it is 9-12 feet. Anything over 12ft is usually an additional cost. Hope this helps.
I know Tesla has a 20’ cord. Thought I might have heard there’s is 25’ which would work for me. If you find out please let me know. Thank you.
Can I do fast charge at a Tesla station with this car
Hi there and thanks for watching. If the Tesla Supercharger Station has a CCS Connector, then yes. Otherwise for fast charging, no.
There are no adapters for CCS vehicles to adapt into a Tesla Supercharger plug standard.
For Level 2 charging, there are adapters to go from a Tesla wall charger/destination station plug to a J1772, which all EVs have, but again that is for Level 2 up to 12 kW.
Dear Reviewer, How tall are you so I can get an idea of how it would be getting in and out for a disabled 6' 3" man?
Thanks for watching. I am 5'6".
@@EVRevolution Thank you. That helps. You said that the Lyriq is not an SUV. Is it considered a crossover? If it is a crossover, I think that means it will not be eligiable for the new EV tax credit because it's price it over $55,000 where an SUV price can go up to $80,000.
I heard (I don't know if was on your video or somewhere else) that Cadillac is suppose to keep at least one Lyriq at each dealership so people can actually try it out. Have you heard that too?
Yours is the most thorough review yet that I have seen of the Lyriq. Great job. We have reserved a 2024, but I think we really need to see it in person and have my partner get in and out of it to make sure it's high enough for him.
Was it equally quiet in the back seats?
Thanks for watching! Can't tell you that as I never was in the back seat while the vehicle was in motion. However, I would suspect yes - still very quiet. That AKG acoustic noise cancellation/sound control works well.
@@EVRevolution With no speakers in the headset, the noise cancellation might not work there.
Why does NO ONE complain about the Lithium ion batteries........They are OBSOLETE by CATL's standards............Paul
Thanks of watching. That is the current tech and they are not yet obsolete.
Is Heads Up Display available?
Thanks for watching. Hmm...I believe so but don't remember. Check out the Cadillac website.
$65K for the AWD model and no CD player?
Thanks for watching...who still uses CD's nowadays!
Who still uses CD's nowadays? I would imagine those wanting to take full advantage of a 19-speaker AKG Studio sound system...installed in a vehicle utilizing Next Generation Active Noise Cancellation technologies...while enjoying their favorite musical selections in an uncompressed audio format.
@andresmith8931 I get it as I have a cabinet full of CDs. You could plug in a portable cd-player into the aux port, but very few new vehicles are coming with cd players now.
@@EVRevolution The AUX port connected to an external disc player is a viable option - I wasn't aware the Lyriq had such an external audio input. I'm wondering if there is also a USB port the sound system can access so I could copy CD's to a USB stick for playback? Thanks for the info as there wasn't this level of detail mentioned during the review of the interior and cabin.
I want to see someone take this car on a thousand mile journey and back and tell us all what a pain in the azz that was.
Thanks for watching. If given the opportunity, I would welcome the opportunity to do that. Depending on the route, there is good coverage for L3 DCFC in most of the Continental U.S. and Southern Canada. Please ask GM to provide me with one and I will gladly do this trip.
I can tell you that I did a 3,000 km (1,600 mi) road trip in my Tesla Model 3 in 2021 and had zero issues. Was a fantastic trip that cost about $150 for charging. No pain in the A at all!
Please, no background while you're speaking.
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback.
2023 is already sold out?!!!! Ugh!
Thanks for watching. Not sure about 2023, but for sure 2022 was.
The door handles are an absolute joke! 🤣
Thanks for watching! I have not heard complaints from any owners on these, so not sure about that.
@@EVRevolution just FYI, my mum got a Tesla recently for an Uber ride - she couldn't figure out how to get in OR out. So, I'm quite positive my mum would have a similar complaint about this ridiculous design. I'm a chauffeur, and things like this are very important. Also, did it occur to you that folks who don't like the door handles simply bought a different vehicle? 😉
Hi Greg, yes for the design I 100% agree. My mum as well can never figure out how to get into my Model 3. That is why I added 3M Stickable Door Handles to my Model 3. They work great and make it very easy to get in. No one ever needs instructions on how to open the doors! Something I am sure my end up being available as an aftermarket as well for the LYRIQ.
I see a few Mercedes Benz inspired parts in this Cadillac hmmmm only thing I don't like about the design is the rear end it's ugly like a toyota
Thanks for watching and your feedback!
Anyone who in even thinking of buying this, Toyota RAV4 Cop Car look alike, The question is????? WHAT DRUG HAVE YOU been smoking?????. What MENTAL illness do you have to even consider, SPENDING, $60.000 + ON this COP CAR EYESORE look alike.????? Do BLUE LIGHTS com standard, or are they OPTIONAL??????
Thanks for watching John and appreciate passion and comments. To each his/her own, and IMO the LYRIQ is a fantastic BEV with a lot of features at that price point. I think it looks great, others may not feel that way. However, don't ignore the fact that @GM has put a lot of thought into this brand new design from the ground up BEV.
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Ok, thanks for watching!
I sure do like the looks of this car.......Only Two complaints.......It needs LFP batteries for safety and longevity..........It needs to be actually be made available............Today it AIN"T...................Paul
We will see if GM switches types of batteries. It is made now (Spring Hill, TN) and being delivered anytime now.
Hi, what are LFP batteries ?
Mid
Thanks for watching!
Nice but sounded like a Cadillac advertisement.
Thanks for watching. Well if you think so, so be it. I'm as objective as they come and if the car sucks, I would have said so.