DJI AVATA: Axisflying 3.5" Upgrade Kit! // MurdersFPV
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- A big thank you to Axisflying for sending me the 3.5" kit to try out for the DJI Avata. This upgrade may not be for everyone but there is definitely a group of FPV enthusiasts who will really enjoy getting the increased performance and capability out of the Avata. This upgrade is especially great if you're the kind of person who wants to get dynamic shots using the Avata to carry a Hero 10 Bones , a Hero 11 Mini, or the full size Hero 11.
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One of the best videos I’ve seen with the avata in manual mode at the end
That flight is sick. Beautiful!. I know to fly like this takes some serious seat time, which I don't have sadly, but you still continue to inspire me.
Thank you, brother I really appreciate that.
@@MurdersFPVhi have you ever updated the firmware after this mod not sure if it would cause a problem or not
@@daveks21 I have. It's been fine.
@@MurdersFPV thank you buddy
That is some incredible flying. Much respect.
Weeeeeee mine comes wed.. yahooooooooooo
Mikey
It's a ton of fun.
@@MurdersFPV I see.. lol lol. I don't like having to mess with the battery but I guess you have to fit bigger frame . I'll take my time.. also thank you did the fix of the rubber grommets.. I'm sure I'll rip mine off as well . Lol lol
Mikey
Awesome flying! Your flights should be used to market the kit. Hard to believe that came out of an Avata. Looks like a must have upgrade tbh.
You're doing freestyle on it so well 🚀🚀
I liked your video. In the conclusion you said “this kit is not really for the AVATA type person” I see the install as one and done kit. When it’s done you have all the Avata characteristics with extra performance and stability. Not to mention quieter. As long as the battery life is not completely destroyed, it seems like a great upgrade.
It's a great upgrade, it's just the vast majority of people I meet who own or want an Avata are not the people who would either want or possess the skill set to perform this upgrade. I get emails or messages on Instagram from people who want this upgrade but can't/won't do it themselves asking if I can do it for them. I wish I had more time to help them out.
@@MurdersFPV exactly. But once done, they would love it. Maybe Dji should release it as the Avata CinePro.
@@MurdersFPV found it. Do you get the "Motor Overloaded" warning? Is this confusion from the new motors? Or did I screw up in my install? As of now I am treating it like a shift light/redline indicator and let off. But the motors come back cold to the touch. So I am thinking the ESC is not really in trouble, but confused about the draw of power from them. Its performing out of its programed range. Do we know of any long term ESC damage from these motors?
Wow man that's fantastic! I've been waiting 3 years for something DJI that can resemble an FPV drone. It looks like we are almost there.
Great kit to Sup it to the Max! If you really want to keep the Avata as a dual duty Cine/Fun Flyer, perhaps just the motor upgrade is the way to go. Great review and awesome flying, as always! 👌
Looking forward to getting this upgrade in a year or so and whipping my drone into the side of a tree!
Great video man. I’ve only flown a buddy’s Avata but I believe this is the upgrade that it needed. It appears that it was really woken up with this kit. Dope flying at always.
It's definitely a completely different drone. It's quite the investment though which is why you really got to want what DJI offers to make this a thing.
Awesome 💀
Wet the grommets and frame with liquid soap for lubrication, works a treat.
Great advice, thank you!
Thats crazy awesome! The last cinematic clip was sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thats what i want
Whoooaaaahhh that was a nucking futs ride mate!
Thank you! 😍
I enjoyed watching this great video. Thank you 👍
Excellent video brother. I wish the battery last longer. I’m used to mini 4 pro flight times 😅
Ur amazing pilot murderfpv . Wow! Great music choice as well . Always u rock brother! 🤟🤟🤟
Jesus that gap at 16:58
Great video and amazing flying at the end!
This made me want to buy an Avata, and I already have one! Great video. I like the USB-C location change, it really irritates me trying to access it on the original. The Avata is awesome though, thanks for introducing me to it!
Thumbs up for the soundtrack!
you want rubber for both the nut and the bolt. the rubbers are meant to dampen any shock going to the camera in the event of a crash and believe me, the cheapest you can find that camera for is about 350 usd. you will want to put rubber on the top too if you are going with the bolt idea
I suppose, but so far it's been working pretty well.
Amazing video 👏🏼 Great overview and review, and an excellent creative freestyle at the end. Thank you
Just started this hobby and love thanks for the great information and amazing flying!!🔥
Спасибо за контент 🙏
Пилотаж и подача материала - на высоте !
Very nice upgrade kit. Amazing review mate as always. Keep well.
This place is great for flying FPV.
Great honest review of the upgrade kit, murders. I’m taking a hard pass on it and accepting the Avata for what it is. The risk/reward ratio just isn’t there for me considering the extra money I’d be dumping into what’s already a $650 quad. The motors for my 5” frame will be here tomorrow. That’s the way to get the performance I’m looking for imo. This was the vid I needed to see and have eagerly been waiting for. That was an epic rip in the Spain bando. Thanks for the great content, brother 🔥🔥🔥
No, I honestly don't blame you. I don't know if I would have done it on my own. I'm grateful Axis sent it to me because after having done it and actually using it, I definitely prefer this version of it. The investment is pretty substantial though and that's kinda the main downside for most.
Your a dope pilot man, just gotta say that vid was impressive :)
Stunning flying! Thank you. I'm subbing. Greetings from Montreal, Canada.
13:45 my mind is blown that this is avata footage...
I was considering the avata 2, but this seems like the better option for way less money haha
Very interested video and upgrade 👍🏻
Avata is my first drone. 100% new Fpv player and did this upgrade as my first project. Not only assembling of the camera mount but also taking off one of the cable plugs was a huge challenge. And the length of the power cables have to be so precise otherwise the socket won’t fit into the slot. And you know what? It turned out to be fine! The new avata performs so much better!
That's awesome to hear! I'm glad you were successful at doing it on your own. That's a big step in the hobby.
Crazy man! Really cool 👍👍👍
I wrapped the wire around the gamble mount several times. This prevents the force cutting into the mount like a single loop does.
That's great advice
That thing boots!
Nice review mate, I'm still on the fence about it. Do like the look of it coping with its own weight, and being able to work better in the wind. I cant remember who's channel it was on but seen a guy remove the grommets fairly easily with some fishing line a while back.
Might have to do this to my avata 👀 good video!
thank you -- great information and incredible flying. Subbed!
Great video as always my dude
Fantastic video and insight, new subscriber here and just have to say loved the walkthrough and advice. Thank you!
Thank you and you're very welcome!
I wanted to get an avata as well and probably upgrade with this kit eventually if my skill upgrades as well. hahaha!
It's a game changer for sure
16:55 wow !
I still can’t decide if I go this way to start my upgrade from the original air units or just keep building. The Pavo pico looks interesting but I did by a moongoat frame with 03 plates!
Love the skills 👍👍
Great video and flying as always! I managed to get my gummys in and out a few times. But I have now broken one after chipping the lens and having to fit the 03 camera module (dji won't sell me a camera)!
Love the idea you come up with for the Gummy mounting tho! BTW those ducts are strong!
Yeah the ducts turned out to be a lot stronger than I thought they would be.
@MurdersFPV same ha. There are some disadvantages to this kit with regards to the camera and ducts in view. But it makes it a very good cinematic whoop whilst keeping the dji features no other whoop has. Not for everyone... but I love it!
really nice shots broo, and thanks for ur sharing, helped me a lot. I just made this upgrade to 3.5''!! Im really impressed, works so much better!! but, could you tell me hows ur rates for cinematic shots?
Hey, do you see the 3,5 frame in the avata camera, when you fly??
@@chr1s_69 yeah, thats why u should shoot with high angle, or in 4x3
@@flyah thank you.
What means high angle?
@@chr1s_69 if u set ur camera angle to 10º to 15º u will not see the frame anymore
@@flyah thank you, sounds good.
And when i fly 20+ degree, i fly always in 20-32
Very impressive! The stock Avata can't do any of these moves without tumbling! It's not a subtle improvement, there is far more thrust and stability
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - you are the best FPV pilot out there! Don’t care what anyone else thinks! You’re my FPV idol! 💪🏼🔥absolutely stunning shots!
PS. Quick question, was this recorder with a GoPro?
This was all recorded on the O3. I did do some GoPro testing with the Hero 8 as weight. It handled it very well. I'm planning on doing a mod to use the GoPro Hero 10 Bones.
@@MurdersFPV appreciate your quick response brother! I’m actually shocked you got such a great footage out of it. I’m wondering what am I doing wrong, I guess I just need to learn a bit more about ISO and exposure settings + nd filters! 😂
Looking forward to the Hero 10 footage! 🔥
@@BrakeRLRUclips I just use Auto settings. 😂
Thanks for this amazing video!
And what is your opinion about complete 3.5 upgrade vs just axis flying motors upgrade ?
I absolutely love the way the Avata flies and handles with the full upgrade. For me, this is what the Avata should have been.
@@MurdersFPV thank you very much 😊
I've done both of my avata with upgrade had no problems never done soldering before anything like that
Well, that's excellent news! Glad you knocked it out.
I accidently purchased the c157 motors and the 3.5" frame do I have to use the C157-2 or will the C157 work fine?
The c157 have the wrong bolt pattern. It's the weird 3 bolts thing that the stock Avata uses and like nothing else. The c157-2 has the standard 4 bolt pattern that the upgrade kit uses.
@MurdersFPV that sucks, thank you for letting me know
@MurdersFPV just ordered the 157-2 if you know of anyone who needs the C157 motors let me know
Is there anybody that actually will do the upgrade for you? Seems like there were someone that was doing it on the motor upgrade
It's not something I advertised but I did about 6-8 motor upgrades for subscribers. It's just really dependent on if I had time. You may be able to in the DJI FPV/Avata Facebook group.
Dude i need help after instalation mew motors i got erorr esc
I would unsolder. Clean pads. Look for stray solder balls. Resolder. Make sure there are no solder bridges.
Awesome footage, What kind of sticks are you using on your controller?
hey man, do you know which adapter you used to put on those thick M4 radiomaster style stick ends on the DJI controller? Would be nice to put some thicker sticks than the stock ones.
Anbee Upgrade CNC Aluminum... www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZCKC2R7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
hey Murders, nice vid. i did mount the new motors.. now i have no cam.. and gimbal didnt start up when i start the drone.. do you know the problem?
I would definitely reseat the gimbal and camera connectors. It's easy to misalign those.
I like the joystick you have on the controller😍 Do you have a link or what i need?
Looking for tech shop who will mod the Avata. Is there anyone doing this ?
I recommend checking the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and asking around. I'm sure someone is doing it. I used to offer the motor upgrade service on a case by case but lately I've just been crazy busy with normal day to day stuff. 🫤
I really liked the video, you are an excellent pilot! , new subscriber here, I just ordered the kit, a small question, did you use dji stabilizers? Or in jyroflow?, thanks 😎
They don't have battery that can fly at least 15 min? That seemed very short
With FPV the concept is performance not efficiency. If you want 15+ minutes of flight you can fly slow and steady but if you want to feel like a jet pilot you're going to burn through a battery in 5-7 minutes.
how about a battery that last longer than 18 min. all this technology and they can't make a bigger mah battery?
Hi cool stuff 😅 i had the same upgrade Kit I loved it
But I need the Stickends on your Dji Remote Controller 2
It's self made thing?
I have made one too but I'm not happy with it. My tbs tango it's perfect
I have trying out 5 set from aftermarket for the dji controller but to long or to small or not to sharp for grip
Best Regards from swiss
Is there a service that can do the upgrade for a fee ? I would rather pay someone to do it instead of messing it up.
I used to offer my services for that kind of thing but lately I've been super busy with work and I just don't have time especially with as much travel as I've had lately. I recommend checking out the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and ask there. I'm sure someone will offer.
Awesomeee !! Can you tell me your PID ?
Dental floss works to pull the grommets thru.
That's a great idea and probably a lot less likely to cut through grommets.
I’ve heard that the best way to put the gummies through is with a bit of floss that you’d use for flossing your teeth.
Axisflying DJI AVATA 3.5" in sport mode (not manual) gives more speed?
So both Sports and Normal mode the speed is governed by GPS. So it will only let you go so fast. You'll need to fly in manual mode to take advantage of the additional speed.
What are those sticks for the controller 2? Edit: Just watched the end, hah, of course you flew it to the breaking point! Thats the difference I watch your channel for!!!!!
The guards look flimsy as fuck. Its exactly what I was waiting to see from your review. Thanks for all the work and time, the bando at the end was sick! Shows the real value of this upgrade.
Great video! Was it also quieter after the upgrade?
Hey Nicholas! Should i choose axis flying kit frame or just upgrade motors (kinda like how original frame looks like)? Really wanna now your opinion. 🙏
@mebeldude just the motor upgrade alone is a nice upgrade, and it's much easier to do.
hi thank for the video. Did you notice lost of GPS when you begin to fly ?
Nope. GPS works perfectly fine. If you're having issues, try reseating your cable.
murdered it 💀
@murders - forgot to mention - think I fit the target customer. I bought the Avata as a bridge from DJI Mavic flying to freestyle and it worked! have now built from component level, so the idea of converting the Avata to a proper cinewhoop but more power (full gopro) and also keeping all the stock Avata features sounds awesome.
Great video! So I’m looking into this upgrade. Definitely for the Full-size GoPro 11 capability. But Im worried about “too much” power. In particular for indoor flying. I use my Avata more as a cinewhoop. Would you still recommend this upgrade in this case?
I made the modifications to my avata, but when trying to fly it doesn't take off, I think it's because I don't know how to put the ellipses correctly, any suggestions?
Check all of your solder joints.
@@MurdersFPV all it's okay
slick
Would you say that just the engine upgrade is worth it to a casual flyer? I've been watching videos for a few weeks and im looking to bumb up the agility a tad and not totally kill the battery performance.
I think so. Just the motor upgrade alone makes this drone fly much better in my opinion and it's worth the reduction in flight time. My answer is to just buy more batteries. I know that is an expensive way to think about it but that's just the facts of the hobby.
@@MurdersFPV I have 10 batteries, so basically no issue there. Lol I'll have to look into it, wonder if I can pay someone to install the motors, I have ZERO experience in that area.
Do you provide the service of installation for people?
This should be the Avata v2.
Agreed. 💯
Man, your flying is insane! So I have a question. I'm a total newb at FPV. I've only flown the DJI M4P but I'm ready to go to the next level. I was planning on purchasing the Avata 2. Should I go that route or buy a more capable FPV? I like how the A2 allows the total beginner to fly FPV then gradually go manual. Thoughts?
Do you have any soldering skills? If so, I'd recommend building your own.
@@MurdersFPV I do. I used to race 1/10 scale off road buggies.
@ 13:54 GODLY ASS SONG BY A BEAUTIFUL BAND !!!
Hello, do you see the frame in the avata camera when you fly?
Not in Manual mode, which is the only mode I fly in.
@@MurdersFPV thanks a lot.
I have a Avata with "only" c157 Motorupgrade, sometimes with prop-wash.
Is the 3,5" kit much more better?
@@chr1s_69 it's a completely different drone. It's the way the Avata should have been. It's my favorite cinewhoop now.
@@MurdersFPV thank you Sir, merry christmas 🎄
I have question in the Avata to Axisflying3.5. Is your internal storage working for you when you connect using usb-c port? is it showing in you computer? Mine is not showing in my computer the internal storage
Mine is working as intended. I would double check to see if you've soldered the connection correctly.
@@MurdersFPV thank you
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Hello, great video and really helpful! Very random question but do you know if any platforms where I could contact someone to do the axis build for me. I want to upgrade my avata so badly but have no soldering skills whatsoever. Thank you!
Your best bet is to join some DJI Facebook groups and ask around
I would like to send you a custom avata upper frame, is there a way we can do that?
it seems like a lot of work that also voids the warranty. what is the benefit of the upgrade kit over buying or building another, better cinewhoop or other style drone?
If you're referring to the DJI limited warranty that is voided by just about everything then yes you would void your warranty. I mean simply taking off with additional weight such as a GoPro does that. Their limited warranty doesn't cover any form of crashes or damages due to pilot error as well as flying in areas where WiFi is present or "bad weather". I would hope someone has spent time flying their Avata as stock to determine if there were any manufacturing defects that would be covered by the warranty prior to the upgrade.
Now if you are referring to DJI Care Refresh then simply performing the upgrade does not void your coverage. It's a paid service that covers the drone in the event that it was run over by a freight train. You simply return your drone as wholely as possible and pay your replacement fee and they send you a new drone.
I know this because I have done it myself even after performing the previous Axisflying motor upgrade and had no issues. I have had several viewers who reached out to me with the same outcomes.
The benefits over other drones you could buy or build is features. Normal, Sport, Manual mode for varying degrees of pilot skills. The most dependable GPS and RTH capabilities I've seen. Active braking ("oh shit" button). It's quite durable even after the upgrade. Intelligent batteries that are safer than any normal LiPo. Ease of use, there's no "configuration" or setup and lastly there are people who simply enjoy being in the DJI ecosystem.
As someone who builds and flies their own drones A LOT I still find value in the Avata. I like the Avata for its simplicity in regards to travel. I like letting friends and family fly it. I like knowing I can beat the shit out of it and it keeps going. It's more durable than my GepRc Cinelog35 and now with this upgrade it honestly flies and handles almost as well as the Cinelog35.
I hope that answers your question.
Have experienced red warning motor overload while trying power loops?
Where can I find those sticks bro??
This looks like it could be an ideal option instead of buying a Cinebot 30... Thoughts? I love my Avata so I need to be sure.
It's honestly my favorite whoop. The only major downside is remote ID. If that's something you can handle, I think it's the best option.
@@MurdersFPV I'm in the UK so I don't need to worry about connecting my phone....
.... Yet!
;)
Can you tell us more about how your experienced FPV friend had a bad experience? Maybe we can learn from this and know what to look out for?
Thanks.
So I've heard from a few people that they attempted the install and they were getting Propulsion Error once they powered the Avata up and tried to arm. This could mean they damaged the AIO in some way while trying to install the new battery lead or motors.
@@MurdersFPV OK that's a worry. It's better to splice the motor wires instead of solder directly?
@@craigdavidson52 If you're really good at splicing then it definitely is an option. I'm all about making it look good. Also, just proper handling of the AIO and making sure your solder joints are good goes a long way. DJI uses lead free solder so getting that off and making sure the pads are clean and properly flowed with new solder would also help. As always, be careful with solder blobs on the electronics.
@@MurdersFPV OK thanks 👍I build fpv quads but doesn't mean I can't mess this up. 🙈
So im done with the upgrade, motor falure? Any recomendations?
Is it just one motor or multiple? Have you attempted to arm the quad and see if any motors are spinning? Let's say it's just one motor not moving, I would move a known good motor to the spot where the bad motor is. The Avata has an AIO FC/ESC on the same board and it is likely the motors are fine but the AIO is bad.
Cloud City Drones out of Rhode Island has everything you'd need to build an Avata from scratch.
cloudcitydrones.com/collections/parts/products/dji-avata-esc-board-module
Its says motors starting, then it stops and says motor startup error, i installed the motors the recommended way by splicing the wires so i couldnt have fried the esc im at a loss now
@@clwood562 just curious who recommended to you to splice motor wires? I'm a firm believer the best way to perform the upgrade is to install the motors as intended directly to the AIO. I would verify your splices very carefully to ensure you have enough continuity for each of the motor wires. If you are positive that you do, then it's possible you still somehow managed to the AIO. You want to troubleshoot the motors first though. Reinstall the original motors and test. If motors still won't start then it's your AIO.
@@MurdersFPV AXIS recommends that you cut the wires to ensure that you dont fry the ESC. Im guessing that you are 100% correct i need to just go directly to the esc
@@clwood562 splicing can be done and I see why they recommend to avoid damage but having the appropriate skill and soldering station with the correct amount of heat makes soldering to the AIO directly very easy and it's just clean and tidy. Give it a shot. Look for any balls of solder or clear defects with the AIO while you're at it and like I mentioned, you can always use the old motors for troubleshooting.
Does this fix the tumble issue with the avata 100%? Best way to tell is to do a juicy flick from my experience which I didn’t see in this video
It does. 100%
What would you say the top speed is now with the upgrade. Cheers man
Sick
What sticks are those for the controller? I have the iFlight Commando 8 remote and it uses the same dumb way of threading sticks in.
The sticks came off the AG01 gimbals for the Radiomaster TX16s Max. I made them work using the bottom half of a stick upgrade I got for the Controller 2 off Amazon.
@@MurdersFPV I figured they would be some mish mash of pieces. I’ve got an m2 screw through a 3D print going right now.
Thanks for the reply !
Hard to believe the bando flying was an avata 😂
do you think i could send dji my avata and the 3.5 kit and they’d install it for me? curious to know if that’s possible.
No😂
👊👊😎👌
eis off and wide field of view hows the prop guard? does is show in the camera?
Not at 30 degrees in Manual mode.
Hello, I want to buy the kit for my AVATA, but I’m from Brazil, I have a little difficulty translating the lines, but I read better with the writing. How was the USB input and the SD input? Was it worth the modification? Can you answer me here?
I believe the upgrade was worth it. That's because my style of flying is more aggressive.
You have to install the SD card before hand and leave it in there. It is impossible to remove after the upgrade unless you take the ducts off. You get a USB cable that extends the USB-C jack out to the base of the quad. It's much easier to access and that is how you get your video files off the SD card. I recommend pre-installing a 128g or 256g SD card.
@@MurdersFPV Thanks for the reply. How did the frame look in normal mode with the camera at 0° angle? Does it appear or just to be in a position below 0°?
@@mathFPV you see the frame almost 100% of the time in Normal mode flight. It's there even in Sport mode though it does go out of the screen a bit when going as fast as you can in a straight line.