OH. MY. GOD. This one was a nightmare. The copyright bots were all over this one, to the point I had to make THIRTY TEST EDITS this week. So uh, hope y'all enjoy. I hope this isn't an omen for the rest of season 3. If it is... idk consider pledging on Patreon so I can still pay my bills? lmfao
@@eye-conicben1048 If I recall correctly, 4kids was going bankrupt around the last season, so it features the least amount of story changes--plus they also got the rough draft when it came to animation, explaining why the final cut looked better.
I love how Bloom and Stella saving the puppies, instead of going after the dress. Foreshadowed how the winx, would later on have to sacrifice themselves and their own needs/wants. For another person, in order to earn their Enchantix.
Absolutely agree- Lisa Ortiz is BEST Icy. She brought so much cold malice to the character and genuinely made her a terrifying villain... and also made me severely question my sexuality. 😳
Stella had the best winx subplot--though it makes me sad that Tides/Andros and Linphea are barely explored and we never get to visit Zenith and Melody.
@@OpticalSorcerer you're right and I wish bloom got her Encantix by saving Daphne like idk he tries to use her sirenix to turn the water stars against bloom and bloom earns Encantix after saving her And yeah I think you're right I wish we got to see the singing Whales in season 3 and also TECHNAS PARENTS THAT NEVER EVEN CALLED WHEN THEY'RE DAUGHTER IS IN ICE HELL
30:08 can we talk about how he just teleported to Solaria at his weakest when the winx usually need Stella’s sceptor or the specialists ships to travel through realms ? It’s such a small yet important detail for me like he’s POWERFUL. 21:42 I think it was a reference to Ferregamo
When I was a kid, I thought the V was some kind of mask or shield type thing. But when I learnt his name was actually Valtor, it made SO much more sense!
I love it when Bloom uses explosive magic. On aircraft carriers, there's a joke/advice that goes as such "If the guys in red are running, you best start running in the same direction". Just switch it to 'girl with red hair' and the joke applies here. Aircraft carriers use color coded uniforms to make it easier to tell who does what job, and red signifies explosives technician (the people that deal with the bombs). If this wasn't a kid's show, Bloom would definitely have a history of making bombs.
We stan Sky being the ultimate wingman of telling Brandon to comfort his darling LIKE YES WE STAN!! Also them just winking at each other and obviously knowing what to do by pumping out a window was ICONIC! And Flora with her "Wrap" joke? LEGENDARY.
I knew I have a type when I didn’t fall for any of the specialist in season one, but for Helia and Valtor… there’s no in between, or is an introvert with a love for art or is a man who will destroy the goddamn world
It's the way this season just hopped from one crisis to another, but effortlessly. The way Valtor caused problems all over the magical universe immediately, and all the girls get directly emotionally involved as a result, instead of by proxy to Bloom. He's truly a threat and that's what makes this season so good.
Valtor's 4Kids voice makes him sound like the Sephiroth of Winx Club. Kudos to Sean Schemmel for giving us a performance both badass and menacing at the same time!
I'm Czech and I love when Chimera tells Stella in the 2nd episode that she'll give her the dress and in our dub Stella replies: Keep it! I don't wear clothes from a Secondhand shop! 😂😂😂 God I love the original seasons dialogues and comebacks ❤
You’re czech??? Excuuuuse? I’m slovak and we watched the same dub!!! Everyone here is like: “I watched the nick dub, cinelume dub, the 4kids dub or whatever”, and I just watched the international dub, get it? I miss the voice cast so much (the barrandov one if I remember correctly). The s06 - s07 voice cast is fine too. I’m still sad they didn’t dub season 8… my childhood would have been complete. No nič, takéto sentimenty lmao. Tak ti aspoň prajem pekný deň, keď už tak 😄
@@monikablaskova4155 To sa nedá, lebo iba prvá séria bola dabovaná do slovenčíny. A po česky sa dabovali 1 - 7. Ani ôsma séria neni po česky, iba po anglicky. A je to super že tu sú ľudia čo hovoria mojím jazykom :D
@@alliecrown2125 The enchantix song dubbed in czech sucks? Excuse me, I grew up with czech enchantix and I loved it! But yeah, neverthless, it's an amazing dub!
Season 3 is the real gem of the crown! No other season can beat its splendour and glory. It is also obvious that all the team, working on it, put a lot of work, though, passion, creativity and love in it. Bless! 🦄💖🙏🏻💖🦄
I remember watching what happened to Stella all those years ago and I would count the minutes and the SECONDS until the episode where she'd get her revenge
"I don't mean to be dumb, but what's a princess ball exactly?" - Bloom "It's like a coming out party for royalty." - Aisha "So everyone gets to know your sexuality there?" - Bloom
About the brand of Stella's dress, those are puns referencing major fashion houeses and its amazing! Wizrahi is a reference to Isaac Mizrahi and even though Fairy Go'Mo like in fairy godmother is a great guess it most likely was meant to be Fairygamo as in Ferragamo, an Italian brand
21:25:True. I think a nice and subtle way the creators showed the Winx maturing is the way they dress. Compare the S1 and S3 casual outfits. The S1 outfits feel like something girls would wear in high school while the S3 outfits feel more mature. Still maintaining that "Hot Girl" energy but more mature.
YESSSS AUGH. This season was so much fun, it was _ridiculous._ Just like how you said it gripped you watching it off the 4Kids block, I caught a random S3 episode back when Nick got airing and dubbing rights and I was just so starstruck over how gripping the plots seemed to suddenly become. And yeah, I didn't watch much Winx as a kid, only catching random episodes sometimes (but somehow none of the S3 episodes. weird.). EVERYTHING about this season was so _GOOD_ (except maybe Valtor's defeat, but maybe 4Kids tweaks that a bit?). I hope to God RUclips lets you review the rest. Every one of these plot threads and characters were a cultural reset and it still kills me that Winx Club never reaches these high highs again.
Same the show 1st aired around the year I was born But never heard of it, So when the Nickelodeon specials came out That's when I start to learn Of the show And it's many many dubs
36:50 Exactly. Season 1-3 was something different. She was someone who you could trust as a leader. And then she got every other girl's screentime in season 5 and up.
Aisha's name being changed to Layla being a 4kids thing makes no sense at all... Especially since Cinelume called her Layla as well for no specific reason. I've talked to a WinxTuber that got in contact with some of the 4kids crew and they denied that Layla was their idea. It seems like Rainbow and Iginio themselves decided Layla would be her international name until Nick came along with the decision to call her Aisha like in Italian.And also, all merchandise and official stuff like the magazines and websites acknowledging her name as Layla all around the world kinda confirms it not being a "dub exclusive" change. It totally must have had Rainbow's finger on it.
Just to point out im From The Netherland she was Always called Layla and there fair reason. 1 something I have to do do with internationale reason because not everyone whould call or caint call her Aisha it a really rare name to be heard/say in other country's. So mabey by Language it was chanced 2 it can have do something about Someone that those company need to chance those names, either to protect children & teenage aswell not getting suède or get problem with pereants *As exsample* : the Disney movie Moana, her name is Chanced in some internationale country's to > Vianna. Why you may ask? What I understand in the Netherland if you type the name "Moana" you will find a p*rnstar who was big (I think) for that reason she called Vianna 3 the reason what you said chould also play a big role and I knowthat can also literly happening I just want to point out that there chould be different reason behind some name changing
Too be honest I always watched the four kids dub when I was little and when I tried to rewatch the different dubs when they called her Aisha it was so off to me
I have no idea which version is the one where Valtor has a deep voice but I love that one just because of how much I personally think the voice suits him. That’s just my personal opinion tho
38:22 Can we appreciate how Aisha/ Layla in her dress gown is literally giving the old rich vibes??? Like rich from the 80's or 90's and with her personality it's just a perfect match made in heaven She gives that rich aunt vibes with a glass of wine that will judge you with her stare but you will never know whether you were approved or not. And I'm here for it
Can we talk about season 2-3 aisha? She is awesome,polite and the great princess.she hasthe best princess vibes from the winx BUT the later seasons esp season 4 ruin her character for no reason.she is no longer kind,polite,rational and is instead this weird,aggresive girl who fights everyone and is always angry for no reason. Like give me the season 2-3 polite,sweet girl aisha who stands up for herself but never uselessly picks fights
@@winxclubflora8446 I refuse to acknowledge season 4 onwards. For me season 4 and above don't exist ^^ The only seasons worthy of being in my memory is seasons 1 to 3 The rest is ✨GARBAGE✨
@@romyjane17 Gurl, you need to watch season 3 That season is awesome but yeah- Season 4 is okay I guess but I'm very bitter that they killed Nabu and I cannot stand that so I can't watch season 4 in peace and the following seasons are just garbage So yeah- season 1, 2 and 3 plus the first 2 movies is good. The rest is where everything starts going downhill for me
I love how Aisha/Layla had to go back home to her realm with the mermaid was done. Her going through the ocean meant she had to take the Magix/Andros gate which were introduced later in Season 5 with the Selkies. We got the answer on how exactly that process went in Season 3. Man, Winx Club is so iconic. I love that it was one of the few cartoons that actually lives on. Not many were existing to last.
I’m alright with the 4Kids dub as long as you cut to Nickelodeon/Cinelume whenever the girls transform into Enchantix. I will NOT be deprived of that HEAVENLY song 😇
Currently rewatching season 3 and I like picking up on little details I would 100% miss as a child. The way Techna walked out of the room like a girlboss after she packed her things showing her development imo. Bloom still struggling with basic magic from time to time as you mentioned, I noted that myself. Icy struggling and taking longer to release Valtor, implying how strong the spell used to capture Valtor was compared to what was used on the Trix. Stella being 100% determined to get that dress (Don't know why they didn't just transform though) but not hesitating at all to point out and save those puppies. Stella's look as Chimera tried to spell her hair. My headcanon is she saw her and whispered to Bloom to just casually move to the right spot with the mirror Also, unrelated but wtf did they expect would happen sending the witch of ice to an ICE PRISON?? The real villains of the season was whoever sentenced to the Trix to Omega.
37:53 huh, that kinda makes sense actually? Here in Brazil on the harshest summers and hot days, specially on the south, we have different degrees of hail when raining, like summer showers little pebbles of rail for a clue minutes. So it can technically make sense in a exaggerated fantasy setting like this that out of no where in very a hot planet to just snow.
As shocked as I am that you skipped seasons one and two, I can’t complain! Season three is so amazing! They did so much right with this season! I sometimes wish that 4Kids could’ve kept the dubbing rights, dubbed the first movie, and we would’ve had a completed arc before moving onto the Nickelodeon years. But hey, I’m still so happy with what we got!
I'm going to be honest. I REALLY needed this today. Sorry to hear that you had so much trouble with the copyright. I was really surprised that you chose to do the 4kids dub, but I'm really glad you did. I've watched the series several times, but I think I've watched the 4kids dub the least out of all of them and I'm constantly surprised by all of the little things that they did to make it completely different from the other dubs. It was touched on in the episode, but I definitely think that adding in lines is one of my favorite things that they do. Honestly if I had a wish that would let me make any TV show I wanted. I would probably just wish or for kids just still exist and for them to dub the rest of the series. With that being said, I think this is a nice Segway to for me to start talking about the voices. This was something I actually found out a few years ago now thanks to one of Thomas's videos. The voice direction can actually make a.MASSIVE difference in performance. The example given Keke Palmer as performances for Nickelodeon and dubbing Brothers are COMPLETELY different. To give another example and one more pregnant to this video, the actress that plays Chimera in this dub is also the same actress that plays Diasparo in season 6. Also, I'm sure she did her best and her performance isn't even bad per se. But if there is one thing I could change about the four kids cast it would be that had the same voice actress as she did for seasons one and two. Also, before I forget I know I say this a lot but I just love how you're editing and humor blend together so well.and not just into one another but with the jokes told in the episode as well. Lastly, I know I say how good these videos are all the time, but I've never just said this so plainly. Thomas, thank you so much for making these videos They're honestly the best part of my week I know I haven't watched everything that you've made primarily because I have yet see fairy tail. Despite all good things, I've heard about it, but these videos are always a pick me up when I'm feeling down. Can't wait for the next video!😀
I need to bring this up. It’s so stupid how the guys dropping off the Trix didn’t think maybe an ice witch encased in ice won’t work. Like. Huge oversight on their part!
I read a comment that said Stella's step in 4kids voice Lisa Adams would've been a good 4kids Roxy. And speaking of Roxy, if you decide to rewrite season 7, I have an idea, make Kalshara Roxy's arch nemesis, they clearly view and treat animals differently
I have to admit, as a teen watching 4Kids on RUclips, I had a bit of a crush on Valtor, too. What can I say, but I like guys with long hair and with a polished style. Though, he's too evil for me to want to be with him. Just throw his looks onto someone who has a more kind and gentle nature, and I'm sold! (Also, while I identify a demisexual, as per my pfp, I still have romantic attraction. This is an identity in progress for me.)
As a here-for-the-Winx girlie, I love the Avatar retrospective too. It's really fun! I do prefer the cinelume dub for season 3 just for the story though.
Musa does look beautiful with long hair, but her short pigtails are just f*cking iconic. They suit her so much. Plus I'm a sucker for tomboys with short hair, so I prefer Musa's old hairstyle. Besides, it was nice to see two members of the Winx who didn’t have long hair.
I cannot believe you’re doing this season. I cannot wait to see the rest - the peak this season reached hasn’t and never will be reached again unfortunately. Season 3 is my absolute favourite. I was hoping you’d mix the dubs (4kids and Cinelume). The Cinelume dub is my personal favourites but I enjoy the 4kids dub as well. There’s just something about the Cinelume dub that vibes with me more but that’s not to say I think the 4kids dub is bad in any way - just not my first preference.
If I recall correctly, they grew up with the 4kids dub first (but I could be wrong), so they probably enjoy some familiarity. Plus I feel like 4kids is the most underrated despite having good voice acting--but I don't mind as long as it returns in some reviews. Not sure how it'll work out since they were also pointing out differences in the 4kids vs original dub.
@@OpticalSorcerer They claimed in a previous video the Cinelume dub was their favorite version, even stating 3/6 Winx had their best voices from that dub. But now they're saying the 4KIds dub has the 'definitive voices'?
I thank you for going above and beyond for us with this. Season 3 4Kids dubbed was so good! Can you imagine if they had been able to dub season 5-7? It would have been awesome.
@artomapoan2338 true! I was surprise to hear some of them returning. But what I meant was season 7 being dubbed entirely in 4kids style, not just the voices, but the added dialog uses, and the music as well.
For over 10 years I have looked for this image, something I saw only once though an open window. I wanted to find the show with this vampire wizerd I made up in my head, and now i find out it was a show my friends constantly tried to get me to watch.
30:40 Actually, Caren Tackett talked about this on the WinxForever podcast! She missed an episode or two because she got cast in an international touring production of RENT
It makes sense that they changed Musa's hair in her transformation sequence, but I still don't understand why 4kids felt the need to digitally edit old clips of Musa in the intro. Like they were trying to erase the fact she ever had short pigtails. Were they worried the children would become confused for a second if they saw a clip of Musa with short pigtails? Why not just replace it with a clip from season 3? It would be cheaper.
I never watched 4kids dub of season 3, growing up with the Italian dub. But I must say... it' s so accurate that I'm kinda moved. Tho I prefer Rai ost and songs, especially f9r this season. So sad they didn't keep Lucia Micinilli's Enchantix 😅
Hi. I am from the Netherlands and grew up watching Winx club like a crazy fan. i still remember when season 2 and 3 where new. Even i know the 4kids opening song because i used to go to the winx club website and kids in the Netherlands already learn english at a young age so i could use the american winx club website. I remember opening the website and it started with that song! I love it so much!! But i also loooove the original song because thats what i grew up with (in dutch). Btw Musa's voice in 4kids sounds a lot like the dutch one from season 1-3 like a bit tomboyish raspy and cute. Oh and Icy's voice also reminds me of the dutch one. So thats it, thankyou for your videos 😁
1) i dont comment much but i have to say a few things. to start - I FORGOT HOW GOOD THIS SEASON WAS????? I haven't watched/rewatched in years but i may consider one at this rate. 2) YES THE VILLIAN MUSIC - so fitting, so good, such a natural fit 3) 4kids dub 10/10 - Darcy sounding menacing but also sophisticated, Icy having the perfect attitude, Flora sounding perfectly maternal, Layla/Aisha's voice fitting super well for her, etc. - all the voice acting shoutouts you've made are so accurate from what i've seen 4) primarily winx viewer here but just wanting to pop over and say i do love the ATLA commentaries too and look forward to seeing more of those (since you mentioned that wasn't performing as well as you hoped, just wanted to mention this so you know at least someone cares!)
There are places that naturally get that "piss" diseased green water. The southern part of where I live is directly in line where two major rivers converge and empty out into the sea. The silt, algae, sand and other debris is often kicked up and makes the water brownish and murky. (There are a lot of waves, not to mention pollution.) So most of the beaches by that part of the coast look like this. (Sometimes you might get a clear day where the water is mostly blue green but it's not common.)
38:22 Loved most of the dresses (especially Flora’s) though didn’t care to much for Bloom & Techna’s. Just wish all the girls’ gowns were in their signature colours, as only Flora & Bloom stuck with theirs.
Going off what was said about bloom being an earthling to explain stuff it’s actually a more organic way of doing it than say something out of goddam season 6
Your editing is having me in stiches. I'm crying laughing. Also why can I imagine the only time Helia snapped is at Chimera when she talked back at Flora, like Helia is in the corner like "I'm about to beat this b*tch up".
4:46 only in the US. Because all around the world, if you talk about winx it's either "Under the sign of winx" or "magic winx song" that will be the first song coming in mind But as someone from Belgium, as a child, I still knew the "we are the winx"tune because it was used in a doll commercial and they kept it instead of using "under the sign of winx"
I grew up with the other English dubs. The dub Thomas chose here has the worst voice cast of the bunch, so I don't know why he picked it. Valtor doesn't sound intimidating whatsoever here - in Italian, French and the other English dubs of S03 he sounds FAR better.
@@Superlad945 Look, I've seen your comments on RUclips about Winx before. I know you hate the Cinelume dub, miss no chance to bash it and the other international dubs based on that, given how much you love 4Kids, so I won't even respond to the wall of text you posted. I don't want to speak to toxic 4Kids fans. If you like 4Kids more than Cinelume, fine. But bashing the actors, making fun of their other roles, and trying to defend a dub that is reviled by the CREATOR of the series, just shows you are being too patriotic in your defense. At least in the other English dubs and the international dubs in particular, the voice actors sound like real people.
I remembered Winx Club when seeing a fic and promptly had to lookup Valtor Like I barely remember anything except him. And goddamn, 4Kids really made him girlboss Sephiroth with a fire VA and Theme. Also the Clothing. I’m a goddamn sucker for billowing coats on villains
I did rewatch and gave 4Kids version a chance and I gotta say... besides the "we are the winx, we are the winx. we are the winx..." its not bad and kinda funny xD
About the pizzas in the 4kids bloom is not the one to introduce pizzas but in the cinaloom version shes the one who introduces it and instead OSS pizzas they refer to them as pies in season three just a observation
After seeing you endlessly roast the newer winx seasons, it's very nice to see you praising it so so much!! Man now I wanna do a rewatch on Winx. I love your Avatar the Last Airbender commentaries too! If you're looking to comment on more animes it would be cool to see you talk about Sasaki and Miyano, a new boys love anime that came out a while ago.
OH. MY. GOD. This one was a nightmare. The copyright bots were all over this one, to the point I had to make THIRTY TEST EDITS this week. So uh, hope y'all enjoy. I hope this isn't an omen for the rest of season 3. If it is... idk consider pledging on Patreon so I can still pay my bills? lmfao
Good job :]
SEASON 3 AT LEAST. 4KIDS though?
4kids was not that good tbh. Why it? It was chopy and cut parts and not that emotional.
Hopefully it's easier for you from here on. Please continue with the 4kids dub; it's so underrated.
@@eye-conicben1048 If I recall correctly, 4kids was going bankrupt around the last season, so it features the least amount of story changes--plus they also got the rough draft when it came to animation, explaining why the final cut looked better.
Instead of dropping the Trix in a Ice based prison with a witch with ice based powers, they should have dropped them into a volcano
She is not a Pokemon
@@bichitomax😂😂
They should have through them into the vortex of flames so they can do a backflip into the vortex and get bloomix 😂😂😂
No when they imprisoned the truck they should’ve been separated to places that doesn’t help their powers
@@Azurexoxproductions I just imagine
The Trix hating the name “Bloomix"
I love how Bloom and Stella saving the puppies, instead of going after the dress. Foreshadowed how the winx, would later on have to sacrifice themselves and their own needs/wants. For another person, in order to earn their Enchantix.
oh! I didn't think of that, that's very clever!
Season 6 stella would have said fuck the puppies i need my dress 👹
My heart flutters when Valtor shows up and speaks
I'm embarrassed to say this: me too😳😖
you're so, so real.. i need more valtor x y/n fics personally
Frrr he is too fine🤭
Esp the Nick dub, im sorry i find that one the supreme voice for Valtor 😊
Girl you remember the speach he gives to the young witches at the beginning of episode 10 🥵?
Absolutely agree- Lisa Ortiz is BEST Icy. She brought so much cold malice to the character and genuinely made her a terrifying villain... and also made me severely question my sexuality. 😳
The deeper voices for the Trix felt so powerful and menacing. It's always neat to have female villains who's voices aren't high (ie Regina George).
Stella had the best winx subplot--though it makes me sad that Tides/Andros and Linphea are barely explored and we never get to visit Zenith and Melody.
At least we got to see it in season 5, and 7
@@Azurexoxproductions I meant in the good seasons. The requirements for Enchantix were the perfect reason to explore the other girl's worlds.
@@OpticalSorcerer you're right and I wish bloom got her Encantix by saving Daphne like idk he tries to use her sirenix to turn the water stars against bloom and bloom earns Encantix after saving her
And yeah I think you're right I wish we got to see the singing Whales in season 3 and also TECHNAS PARENTS THAT NEVER EVEN CALLED WHEN THEY'RE DAUGHTER IS IN ICE HELL
30:08 can we talk about how he just teleported to Solaria at his weakest when the winx usually need Stella’s sceptor or the specialists ships to travel through realms ? It’s such a small yet important detail for me like he’s POWERFUL.
21:42 I think it was a reference to Ferregamo
Cuz he is frickin valtor. He is the best winx character honestly! He is sooo cool in season 3 and dangerous
Valtor being called Baltor in the 4kids dub but his mark still clearly being a V is weirdly funny to me lol
When I was a kid, I thought the V was some kind of mask or shield type thing. But when I learnt his name was actually Valtor, it made SO much more sense!
I guess Baltor instead of Valtor because his monster form looks like Balor from Lords Of Ring🤣
I love it when Bloom uses explosive magic. On aircraft carriers, there's a joke/advice that goes as such "If the guys in red are running, you best start running in the same direction". Just switch it to 'girl with red hair' and the joke applies here. Aircraft carriers use color coded uniforms to make it easier to tell who does what job, and red signifies explosives technician (the people that deal with the bombs). If this wasn't a kid's show, Bloom would definitely have a history of making bombs.
I mean we would know why sparks was gone then 😂
We stan Sky being the ultimate wingman of telling Brandon to comfort his darling LIKE YES WE STAN!! Also them just winking at each other and obviously knowing what to do by pumping out a window was ICONIC! And Flora with her "Wrap" joke? LEGENDARY.
ICONIC
musa's magic winx edit in the 4kids dub is so magical, i adore it. look at how her hair moves. 😍😍😍
YOU'RE A MONSTER
But ngl i loved it too. 😭😭
WE'RE MONSTERS 💀
right 😩
I was rewatching that scene and I just realized her pigtails and her hair were different shades of blue 😭
Stop 😂😂😂😂😂
NO SHH DONT RUIN IT FOR THE ONES WHO HAVENT NOTICED YET
I knew I have a type when I didn’t fall for any of the specialist in season one, but for Helia and Valtor… there’s no in between, or is an introvert with a love for art or is a man who will destroy the goddamn world
Thought you have a type for long haired guys
@@I_always_have_been_Daniel49 That too, I don’t know how I forgot that
So glad to know I wasn't alone! Valtor and Helia are perfect!
bloom had more history with valtor than she did with her own boyfriend I'm dying 💀
And that's why we ship them.😉
Fake Avalon wants to have a word with you
@@AdorianDelmore I- bestie...
@@AdorianDelmore wait- isnt bloom a teenager!?
@@kiameiluvbotI believe she would be 17 in S3
It's the way this season just hopped from one crisis to another, but effortlessly. The way Valtor caused problems all over the magical universe immediately, and all the girls get directly emotionally involved as a result, instead of by proxy to Bloom. He's truly a threat and that's what makes this season so good.
Logan fan?
@@angelic252 just saw this but yes!
@@MJ-98 nice, I'm a Roman fan myself!
The 4Kids voice cast is so amazing I've always loved how they have their own voices and gives off their own personality.
Yeah despite the issues with the company, 4Kids had amazing VAs and MUSIC. Like seriously some of the scores they’ve made is top tier.
Valtor's 4Kids voice makes him sound like the Sephiroth of Winx Club.
Kudos to Sean Schemmel for giving us a performance both badass
and menacing at the same time!
The moment chimera insulted Flora, you KNEW Stella was about to throw hands.
I'm Czech and I love when Chimera tells Stella in the 2nd episode that she'll give her the dress and in our dub Stella replies: Keep it! I don't wear clothes from a Secondhand shop! 😂😂😂 God I love the original seasons dialogues and comebacks ❤
You’re czech??? Excuuuuse? I’m slovak and we watched the same dub!!! Everyone here is like: “I watched the nick dub, cinelume dub, the 4kids dub or whatever”, and I just watched the international dub, get it?
I miss the voice cast so much (the barrandov one if I remember correctly). The s06 - s07 voice cast is fine too. I’m still sad they didn’t dub season 8… my childhood would have been complete.
No nič, takéto sentimenty lmao. Tak ti aspoň prajem pekný deň, keď už tak 😄
A čo mám povedať, keď som videla epizódy v slovenčine a nie v českom dabingu? ...ale súhlasím čistá nostalgia 😅
@@monikablaskova4155 To sa nedá, lebo iba prvá séria bola dabovaná do slovenčíny. A po česky sa dabovali 1 - 7. Ani ôsma séria neni po česky, iba po anglicky.
A je to super že tu sú ľudia čo hovoria mojím jazykom :D
Honestly the only thing I dislike abt the Czech dub is that the enchantix song sucks, otherwise it’s awesome lol
@@alliecrown2125 The enchantix song dubbed in czech sucks? Excuse me, I grew up with czech enchantix and I loved it! But yeah, neverthless, it's an amazing dub!
21:14 FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. Long hair SEASON 3 Musa is EVERYTHING.
Can you even imagine her Enchantix with short hair though? No because her long hair is perfect!
She looks so good
Season 3 is the real gem of the crown! No other season can beat its splendour and glory. It is also obvious that all the team, working on it, put a lot of work, though, passion, creativity and love in it. Bless! 🦄💖🙏🏻💖🦄
honestly Valtor was a kick ass villian in season 3 back then i actually wanted him to win in the end against the girls
I remember watching what happened to Stella all those years ago and I would count the minutes and the SECONDS until the episode where she'd get her revenge
"I don't mean to be dumb, but what's a princess ball exactly?" - Bloom
"It's like a coming out party for royalty." - Aisha
"So everyone gets to know your sexuality there?" - Bloom
😂😂😂😂
About the brand of Stella's dress, those are puns referencing major fashion houeses and its amazing! Wizrahi is a reference to Isaac Mizrahi and even though Fairy Go'Mo like in fairy godmother is a great guess it most likely was meant to be Fairygamo as in Ferragamo, an Italian brand
21:25:True. I think a nice and subtle way the creators showed the Winx maturing is the way they dress. Compare the S1 and S3 casual outfits. The S1 outfits feel like something girls would wear in high school while the S3 outfits feel more mature. Still maintaining that "Hot Girl" energy but more mature.
@@Superlad945Fuck em seasons. We talk about the GOLDEN ERA
I love how anyone can wear a crop top in the Winx universe. The Winx, yes, but also the Specialists lmao
YESSSS AUGH. This season was so much fun, it was _ridiculous._
Just like how you said it gripped you watching it off the 4Kids block, I caught a random S3 episode back when Nick got airing and dubbing rights and I was just so starstruck over how gripping the plots seemed to suddenly become. And yeah, I didn't watch much Winx as a kid, only catching random episodes sometimes (but somehow none of the S3 episodes. weird.).
EVERYTHING about this season was so _GOOD_ (except maybe Valtor's defeat, but maybe 4Kids tweaks that a bit?). I hope to God RUclips lets you review the rest. Every one of these plot threads and characters were a cultural reset and it still kills me that Winx Club never reaches these high highs again.
Same the show 1st aired around the year I was born But never heard of it, So when the Nickelodeon specials came out That's when I start to learn Of the show And it's many many dubs
36:50 Exactly. Season 1-3 was something different. She was someone who you could trust as a leader. And then she got every other girl's screentime in season 5 and up.
Aisha's name being changed to Layla being a 4kids thing makes no sense at all... Especially since Cinelume called her Layla as well for no specific reason. I've talked to a WinxTuber that got in contact with some of the 4kids crew and they denied that Layla was their idea. It seems like Rainbow and Iginio themselves decided Layla would be her international name until Nick came along with the decision to call her Aisha like in Italian.And also, all merchandise and official stuff like the magazines and websites acknowledging her name as Layla all around the world kinda confirms it not being a "dub exclusive" change. It totally must have had Rainbow's finger on it.
I always thought they changed it to make it two syllables like the rest of them, minus Bloom of course.
Just to point out im From The Netherland she was Always called Layla and there fair reason.
1 something I have to do do with internationale reason because not everyone whould call or caint call her Aisha it a really rare name to be heard/say in other country's. So mabey by Language it was chanced
2 it can have do something about Someone that those company need to chance those names, either to protect children & teenage aswell not getting suède or get problem with pereants
*As exsample* : the Disney movie Moana, her name is Chanced in some internationale country's to > Vianna. Why you may ask? What I understand in the Netherland if you type the name "Moana" you will find a p*rnstar who was big (I think) for that reason she called Vianna
3 the reason what you said chould also play a big role and I knowthat can also literly happening
I just want to point out that there chould be different reason behind some name changing
I grew up with the French version
So she was always Layla to me
@@nazyadlakhdari6191 i grew up with the brazilian portuguese version, so she was Layla up to season 4 then changed to Aisha season 5 onwards.
Too be honest I always watched the four kids dub when I was little and when I tried to rewatch the different dubs when they called her Aisha it was so off to me
“we’re going to be watching the 4kids dub” AND WE ALL CHEERED 🎉🎉🎉
I have no idea which version is the one where Valtor has a deep voice but I love that one just because of how much I personally think the voice suits him. That’s just my personal opinion tho
He has a deep raspy voice in the Cinelume/Rai English dub.
In 4kids it's also kinda deep, but not raspy and not as sexy nor sinister imo.
@@calvinvanbalen2664 4kids valtor... that's the same voice Sean uses for Super saiyan Goku and i can't unhear it.
@@ghoulchan7525 i never watched that
@@calvinvanbalen2664 i did.
Hmmn... Maybe search for clips if you are curious what it sounds like
I think the deep but slightly raspy voice he has in the Cinelume dub fits him best.
Man, I’ve been WAITING for your commentary on Winx Club season 3. Valtor has been my favorite villain and toxic crush for more than a DECADE
Ah yes... Valtor, my childhood fiction crush when i was 10
38:22 Can we appreciate how Aisha/ Layla in her dress gown is literally giving the old rich vibes???
Like rich from the 80's or 90's and with her personality it's just a perfect match made in heaven
She gives that rich aunt vibes with a glass of wine that will judge you with her stare but you will never know whether you were approved or not.
And I'm here for it
Can we talk about season 2-3 aisha? She is awesome,polite and the great princess.she hasthe best princess vibes from the winx BUT the later seasons esp season 4 ruin her character for no reason.she is no longer kind,polite,rational and is instead this weird,aggresive girl who fights everyone and is always angry for no reason. Like give me the season 2-3 polite,sweet girl aisha who stands up for herself but never uselessly picks fights
@@winxclubflora8446
I refuse to acknowledge season 4 onwards.
For me season 4 and above don't exist ^^
The only seasons worthy of being in my memory is seasons 1 to 3
The rest is ✨GARBAGE✨
@@dess5362I’ve never seen after season 3 due to age, might be a blessing
@@romyjane17
Gurl, you need to watch season 3
That season is awesome but yeah-
Season 4 is okay I guess but I'm very bitter that they killed Nabu and I cannot stand that so I can't watch season 4 in peace and the following seasons are just garbage
So yeah- season 1, 2 and 3 plus the first 2 movies is good. The rest is where everything starts going downhill for me
@@dess5362 I mean that I’ve seen 3, but not anything beyond that. English is not my firsr language oops
I love how Aisha/Layla had to go back home to her realm with the mermaid was done. Her going through the ocean meant she had to take the Magix/Andros gate which were introduced later in Season 5 with the Selkies. We got the answer on how exactly that process went in Season 3. Man, Winx Club is so iconic. I love that it was one of the few cartoons that actually lives on. Not many were existing to last.
I’m alright with the 4Kids dub as long as you cut to Nickelodeon/Cinelume whenever the girls transform into Enchantix. I will NOT be deprived of that HEAVENLY song 😇
4kids season 3 is so iconic, I don’t think I could watch another version 🥹 the writers in this era were amazing
some of the season 3 storyboards actually show valtor's name as baltor.
Currently rewatching season 3 and I like picking up on little details I would 100% miss as a child.
The way Techna walked out of the room like a girlboss after she packed her things showing her development imo.
Bloom still struggling with basic magic from time to time as you mentioned, I noted that myself.
Icy struggling and taking longer to release Valtor, implying how strong the spell used to capture Valtor was compared to what was used on the Trix.
Stella being 100% determined to get that dress (Don't know why they didn't just transform though) but not hesitating at all to point out and save those puppies.
Stella's look as Chimera tried to spell her hair. My headcanon is she saw her and whispered to Bloom to just casually move to the right spot with the mirror
Also, unrelated but wtf did they expect would happen sending the witch of ice to an ICE PRISON?? The real villains of the season was whoever sentenced to the Trix to Omega.
37:53 huh, that kinda makes sense actually? Here in Brazil on the harshest summers and hot days, specially on the south, we have different degrees of hail when raining, like summer showers little pebbles of rail for a clue minutes. So it can technically make sense in a exaggerated fantasy setting like this that out of no where in very a hot planet to just snow.
As shocked as I am that you skipped seasons one and two, I can’t complain! Season three is so amazing! They did so much right with this season! I sometimes wish that 4Kids could’ve kept the dubbing rights, dubbed the first movie, and we would’ve had a completed arc before moving onto the Nickelodeon years. But hey, I’m still so happy with what we got!
Was expecting 4 after 6 but it's nice to see you clear your palate with the gracious beautiful season 3
I'm going to be honest. I REALLY needed this today. Sorry to hear that you had so much trouble with the copyright. I was really surprised that you chose to do the 4kids dub, but I'm really glad you did. I've watched the series several times, but I think I've watched the 4kids dub the least out of all of them and I'm constantly surprised by all of the little things that they did to make it completely different from the other dubs. It was touched on in the episode, but I definitely think that adding in lines is one of my favorite things that they do. Honestly if I had a wish that would let me make any TV show I wanted. I would probably just wish or for kids just still exist and for them to dub the rest of the series. With that being said, I think this is a nice Segway to for me to start talking about the voices. This was something I actually found out a few years ago now thanks to one of Thomas's videos. The voice direction can actually make a.MASSIVE difference in performance. The example given Keke Palmer as performances for Nickelodeon and dubbing Brothers are COMPLETELY different. To give another example and one more pregnant to this video, the actress that plays Chimera in this dub is also the same actress that plays Diasparo in season 6. Also, I'm sure she did her best and her performance isn't even bad per se. But if there is one thing I could change about the four kids cast it would be that had the same voice actress as she did for seasons one and two. Also, before I forget I know I say this a lot but I just love how you're editing and humor blend together so well.and not just into one another but with the jokes told in the episode as well. Lastly, I know I say how good these videos are all the time, but I've never just said this so plainly. Thomas, thank you so much for making these videos They're honestly the best part of my week I know I haven't watched everything that you've made primarily because I have yet see fairy tail. Despite all good things, I've heard about it, but these videos are always a pick me up when I'm feeling down. Can't wait for the next video!😀
Honestly, thank god we had just one dub in Brazil, and the voices were perfect from the get go.
I need to bring this up. It’s so stupid how the guys dropping off the Trix didn’t think maybe an ice witch encased in ice won’t work. Like. Huge oversight on their part!
18:52 "*They are the Winx*and don't you f*cking forget it " I AM GOOOOONE 😭😭😭😭😭
Season 3 is also the point where I started watching Winx regularly lol
I read a comment that said Stella's step in 4kids voice Lisa Adams would've been a good 4kids Roxy. And speaking of Roxy, if you decide to rewrite season 7, I have an idea, make Kalshara Roxy's arch nemesis, they clearly view and treat animals differently
This is my first look at the 4kids dub, like, ever. I grew up on Cinelume, so this is going to be interesting for me.
Same and I watched season 3 three on RUclips and that was back in 2009 or 2010, plus the dub in my country used the Cinelume version.
mine too. but i grew up with the dutch dub.
I have to admit, as a teen watching 4Kids on RUclips, I had a bit of a crush on Valtor, too. What can I say, but I like guys with long hair and with a polished style. Though, he's too evil for me to want to be with him. Just throw his looks onto someone who has a more kind and gentle nature, and I'm sold! (Also, while I identify a demisexual, as per my pfp, I still have romantic attraction. This is an identity in progress for me.)
May I suggest the White Mage of Maplestory? Pretty, Elegent, and very Caring
As a here-for-the-Winx girlie, I love the Avatar retrospective too. It's really fun! I do prefer the cinelume dub for season 3 just for the story though.
I love Winx and Avatar critiques.
Musa does look beautiful with long hair, but her short pigtails are just f*cking iconic. They suit her so much. Plus I'm a sucker for tomboys with short hair, so I prefer Musa's old hairstyle. Besides, it was nice to see two members of the Winx who didn’t have long hair.
I cannot believe you’re doing this season. I cannot wait to see the rest - the peak this season reached hasn’t and never will be reached again unfortunately. Season 3 is my absolute favourite.
I was hoping you’d mix the dubs (4kids and Cinelume). The Cinelume dub is my personal favourites but I enjoy the 4kids dub as well. There’s just something about the Cinelume dub that vibes with me more but that’s not to say I think the 4kids dub is bad in any way - just not my first preference.
If I recall correctly, they grew up with the 4kids dub first (but I could be wrong), so they probably enjoy some familiarity. Plus I feel like 4kids is the most underrated despite having good voice acting--but I don't mind as long as it returns in some reviews. Not sure how it'll work out since they were also pointing out differences in the 4kids vs original dub.
@@OpticalSorcerer They claimed in a previous video the Cinelume dub was their favorite version, even stating 3/6 Winx had their best voices from that dub.
But now they're saying the 4KIds dub has the 'definitive voices'?
@@Violentinthedaylight Do you recall which video?
@@OpticalSorcerer The Cinelume Dub video.
@@Violentinthedaylight Thanks! I found it. That was 3 years ago, so maybe 4kids grew on them?
Chimera sounds like she's about to say "Aay I'm walkin here" in this dub.
Chimera being from Manhattan would be interesting. Or even Boston.
I thank you for going above and beyond for us with this. Season 3 4Kids dubbed was so good! Can you imagine if they had been able to dub season 5-7? It would have been awesome.
S7 had some 4kids actresses and it was great btw (except for Icy, who wasnt dubbed by Lisa Ortis).
@artomapoan2338 true! I was surprise to hear some of them returning. But what I meant was season 7 being dubbed entirely in 4kids style, not just the voices, but the added dialog uses, and the music as well.
@@Galistarwater I see...well now I understood you.
@@Superlad945 Ew... Molly is so cringe.
@@Superlad945 No, it wasnt. Even Cindy and Emily did better job comparing to that Molly creature.
For over 10 years I have looked for this image, something I saw only once though an open window. I wanted to find the show with this vampire wizerd I made up in my head, and now i find out it was a show my friends constantly tried to get me to watch.
Oh the irony
I thought the 'Fairy Ga'Mo' dress Stella had was a nod to Ferrigamo, that famous Hollywood stylist 🤷🏽♀️
30:40 Actually, Caren Tackett talked about this on the WinxForever podcast! She missed an episode or two because she got cast in an international touring production of RENT
Valtor is the FINEST villian after Ogron & Gantlos i will forever die on this hill
It makes sense that they changed Musa's hair in her transformation sequence, but I still don't understand why 4kids felt the need to digitally edit old clips of Musa in the intro. Like they were trying to erase the fact she ever had short pigtails. Were they worried the children would become confused for a second if they saw a clip of Musa with short pigtails? Why not just replace it with a clip from season 3? It would be cheaper.
21:21 And it is logical to say that she was influenced by the girls Flora and Stella directly, so it is natural that she becomes more girly with time.
30:00 (not the exact time stamp but it’s close lol) Bloom being a Sagittarius literally makes so much sense
I never watched 4kids dub of season 3, growing up with the Italian dub. But I must say... it' s so accurate that I'm kinda moved. Tho I prefer Rai ost and songs, especially f9r this season. So sad they didn't keep Lucia Micinilli's Enchantix 😅
Here's my ranking for voices of the 4Kids dub:
Winx:
1. Bloom
2. Stella
3. Aisha
4. Musa
5. Flora
6. Tecna
Trix:
1. Icy
2. Darcy
3. Stormy
Specialists + Nabu:
1. Brandon
2. Riven
3. Helia
4. Nabu
5. Timmy
6. Sky
Hi. I am from the Netherlands and grew up watching Winx club like a crazy fan. i still remember when season 2 and 3 where new. Even i know the 4kids opening song because i used to go to the winx club website and kids in the Netherlands already learn english at a young age so i could use the american winx club website. I remember opening the website and it started with that song! I love it so much!! But i also loooove the original song because thats what i grew up with (in dutch). Btw Musa's voice in 4kids sounds a lot like the dutch one from season 1-3 like a bit tomboyish raspy and cute. Oh and Icy's voice also reminds me of the dutch one. So thats it, thankyou for your videos 😁
stella's 4kids voice (caren tackett) was actually busy doing a musical so they had to get a stand in (lisa adams).
lisa adams is also dolce/sweet from angel's friends.
plus in the 4kids preview, it was originally veronica taylor (4kids diaspro) replacing caren.
@@roccaluce also fun fact Dolce's/Sweet's voice actress in the italian dub Francesca Bielli also voices the shaman witch in season 8
1) i dont comment much but i have to say a few things. to start - I FORGOT HOW GOOD THIS SEASON WAS????? I haven't watched/rewatched in years but i may consider one at this rate.
2) YES THE VILLIAN MUSIC - so fitting, so good, such a natural fit
3) 4kids dub 10/10 - Darcy sounding menacing but also sophisticated, Icy having the perfect attitude, Flora sounding perfectly maternal, Layla/Aisha's voice fitting super well for her, etc. - all the voice acting shoutouts you've made are so accurate from what i've seen
4) primarily winx viewer here but just wanting to pop over and say i do love the ATLA commentaries too and look forward to seeing more of those (since you mentioned that wasn't performing as well as you hoped, just wanted to mention this so you know at least someone cares!)
Valtor (and Itachi from Naruto) was my sexual awakening as a teenager.
Valtor, Itachi, Sephiroth, and Sesshomaru we’re mine bro
There are places that naturally get that "piss" diseased green water. The southern part of where I live is directly in line where two major rivers converge and empty out into the sea. The silt, algae, sand and other debris is often kicked up and makes the water brownish and murky. (There are a lot of waves, not to mention pollution.) So most of the beaches by that part of the coast look like this. (Sometimes you might get a clear day where the water is mostly blue green but it's not common.)
I’m just gonna say floras dress is the best one she has in the first three seasons not including the movies
38:22 Loved most of the dresses (especially Flora’s) though didn’t care to much for Bloom & Techna’s.
Just wish all the girls’ gowns were in their signature colours, as only Flora & Bloom stuck with theirs.
We stan our dark Icon Valtor ❤
I like the name Andros better sound unique
23:06 I would give ANYTHING to know what kind of instrument/synthesiser they used for Flora’s music in the transformation sequence!✨🌸 ✨
I like your filter for this video @UnicornofWar it makes Bloom's blue outfits more darker in better darker blues than her teals
the b in baltor had the same amount of work as musa’s intro hair💀
"Valtor is a girlboss" might be the most accurate description of a winx villain I have ever heard
my dad used to call Valtor "whore/how" cuz he whore eye shadow, and when he saw Valtors real form..
"thats not enchantix, that's whoretix"
Is your father shaming valtor?
Going off what was said about bloom being an earthling to explain stuff it’s actually a more organic way of doing it than say something out of goddam season 6
Season 3 commentary will be fun as there's so much to praise!
The 4 kids version does cut a few great scenes though
Your editing is having me in stiches. I'm crying laughing.
Also why can I imagine the only time Helia snapped is at Chimera when she talked back at Flora, like Helia is in the corner like "I'm about to beat this b*tch up".
4:46 only in the US. Because all around the world, if you talk about winx it's either "Under the sign of winx" or "magic winx song" that will be the first song coming in mind
But as someone from Belgium, as a child, I still knew the "we are the winx"tune because it was used in a doll commercial and they kept it instead of using "under the sign of winx"
nah definitely in ireland we got the 4kids version, then later the rai nickleodeon version nearly two decades later
Lmao did the solaria guard really say "No hip-hop allow-" 😂😂😂
best season right here thank you for doing this season we needed a break from nickelodeon
also for someone who's used to the french dub of valtor, his english dub is .... unique, to say the least
Same, I grew up with the Italian dub so all their voices feel so weird
I grew up with the other English dubs. The dub Thomas chose here has the worst voice cast of the bunch, so I don't know why he picked it. Valtor doesn't sound intimidating whatsoever here - in Italian, French and the other English dubs of S03 he sounds FAR better.
Same
Yeah valtor sounds better in the other English dubs tbh
@@Superlad945 Look, I've seen your comments on RUclips about Winx before. I know you hate the Cinelume dub, miss no chance to bash it and the other international dubs based on that, given how much you love 4Kids, so I won't even respond to the wall of text you posted. I don't want to speak to toxic 4Kids fans. If you like 4Kids more than Cinelume, fine. But bashing the actors, making fun of their other roles, and trying to defend a dub that is reviled by the CREATOR of the series, just shows you are being too patriotic in your defense. At least in the other English dubs and the international dubs in particular, the voice actors sound like real people.
This is late but Chimera and Morgana from Persona 5 share a VA, Cassandra Lee Morris
Fun fact in season 1 of the 4kids dub when the girls go out to the city of magix for the first time Stella does suggest they go out for pizza
Man rewatching this version and the Nick version. You could hear the bitterness In Aisha's voice both times
Valtor had 8 yo me in a CHOKEHOLD. That's my king. Support Valtor Wrongs !!
I remembered Winx Club when seeing a fic and promptly had to lookup Valtor
Like I barely remember anything except him. And goddamn, 4Kids really made him girlboss Sephiroth with a fire VA and Theme.
Also the Clothing. I’m a goddamn sucker for billowing coats on villains
your humour is just spot on
Thomas: I still don’t know why they ever changed her name to Layla.
I don’t either Thomas. And it will forever bother me! She is Aisha! Not Layla!
I did rewatch and gave 4Kids version a chance and I gotta say... besides the "we are the winx, we are the winx. we are the winx..." its not bad and kinda funny xD
Since season 3 was supposed to be the last season (with the first movie as the finale) it’s no wonder it was the best season.
About the pizzas in the 4kids bloom is not the one to introduce pizzas but in the cinaloom version shes the one who introduces it and instead OSS pizzas they refer to them as pies in season three just a observation
After seeing you endlessly roast the newer winx seasons, it's very nice to see you praising it so so much!! Man now I wanna do a rewatch on Winx. I love your Avatar the Last Airbender commentaries too! If you're looking to comment on more animes it would be cool to see you talk about Sasaki and Miyano, a new boys love anime that came out a while ago.
Valtor is my top three villains up there with Nerissa and Light Yagami.
To this day he is still one of my favs
YES I love this season so much I watched it on repeat as a child