Not particularly interested in MG but watched from start to finish. Jonny is hands down the best car reviewer on RUclips or any medium for that matter 👌🏽
I wasn't interested in MG, just happened to pass the dealer after test driving Tesla's. I ended up with an MG5. Now I know that it's no Tesla and it's ugly, but it's not half the car either but it was half the price. If I had water in light fittings on my £24,000 MG I would take it back to the dealer, Tesla put their £50,000 car out as a demo. Really fancy an MG4 with the dual motors, what a street sleeper and how many embarrassed super car owners!
That is praise indeed for the MG5. Until the MG4 appeared, the MG5 would be at the top of my shopping list if I ever go full EV. Chinese MGs are used as Taxis for years. One even appeared frequently as a Taxi on the popular TV Series Doc Martin. That being an MG6 1.8 Petrol Turbo. According to some reports, MG6s used as taxis 200,000 miles is not unusual. The MG 6 is a far better car than many would have you believe for some reason when they first appeared on these shores. The Chinese having bought the IPRs of the MG Marque for relatively buttons, made an excellent job of their version of Rover's 1.8 turbocharged K-Series. Johnnie's enthusiasm comes over strongly for the MG4. Looks like I shall have to see for myself, ideally with actual "hands on" experience rather than the opinions of others who sometimes allow their bias and prejudice to distort and mislead.
not true whatsoever. that would violate the laws of physics. it's completely impossible that the batteries haven't degraded. they do. it's just your shitty on board computer that doesn't tell you the truth. you DO NOT have the same range.
@@riskinhos All on board computers speaketh with forked tongue occasionally. His "same range" experience could be ca. hundred miles per day subject to use. .
@@riskinhos I have heard the batteries are slightly larger than their stated capacity so the degradation that does happen is not shown by the on-board computer......
@@tocreatee3585 Great sloganeering. Basic intelligence, not so much. The Chinese have sent machines to the dark side of the moon and rovers on Mars - all without any glitches. And here you are belittling their abilities to build EVs, which are positively low-tech stuff compared to those things they build for the moon and Mars. You need to rewire your head, dude.
@@tocreatee3585 Everything is now being made in China thats why everything is So Poor now, I get sent to Customers Machine yesterday, They Complained They Struggle to Open Door, I had No Solution For Them, All I Could Say is Cheap Chinese Locks and Keys Unless There Replaced With Good Quality You'll have to Put up with it. Have same issue on Arcade Machine Locks
@@tocreatee3585 it is not rebadged. It is a straight forward Chinese car. They bought the MG/Rover logo when it went bankrupt. These cars are nothing whatsoever to do with the old MG company. They are purely Chinese with a retained UK design base in Birmingham. Also, they are super, value for money motors. Probably like the telephone/computer you are using to post your comments. 😂
We've had two Leaf's a MG ZS EV and a Tesla Model 3. We currently have the Model 3 and the ZS EV. With the exception of handling the MG is the best EV we've had. Yes, the Tesla is fast and handles well, but, for what it is and how much it cost the MG is an absolutely cracking EV. Ours is 2.5 years old and has been faultless and brilliantly built, better built than the Model 3. The ZS will.be replaced by the MG4, legacy manufacturers need to keep a close eye on MG.
As an MG Rover Mechanic. I love the brand owning many cars from this brand last being the MG Maestro Turbo. Really good to see the brand bouncing back 👌 Alan Partridge 🤣
I bought a 2nd hand ZSEV expecting some oddities and little issues. Non! It’s 2 years old, 20K, drive superbly, saves us £100+ a month in fuel, has lots of tech and the kids love the glass roof. The thing I added was a spare wheel and tint to the rear glass. Funnily enough we had a opportunity to hire a ID4 on hols and we were all pleased to be back in the ZSEV after, funny software in the VW and far more plasticity surfaces than a VW £50k should have. I a big fan now of SAIC (MG) 👍
No comparison between the id4 and szev the zs is one of the worst cars I’ve ever drove my ev van is better to drive. I agree the tech is decent level but the quality ect is not good and the range is awful
FWIW with our (great!) ZSEV ownership experience, and non-stellar time friends have had with VW, SAIC are on our future consideration list and VW just aren't.
I think we lost you for a moment there, Jonny. Full on '80s flashback going on. Love it! I absolutely would drive one of these. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a Tesla Model S, but there's no way I'm forking out £700 a month. I'm very much looking forward to test driving an MG4!
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) ruclips.net/video/pnmaYPewyB8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YiHITQFtTQo/видео.html The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. ruclips.net/video/1FjOIqSuhO8/видео.html China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. ruclips.net/video/xIyenQ-njlQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RdkHA_-xryk/видео.html
I been keeping my eye on this since they announced it. For 28k for the mid trim with decent range and 7 years warranty. You can’t go wrong. Is nice looking as well. I’m certainly will buy one of these.
and after warranty is finished prepare to burn your car, because not a single idiot on this planet will buy second hand EV car with semi dead battery. And price for new battery=price for new car, lol.
@@VYM The standard range LFP battery has a charge cycle rate of 3,000 - 10,0000 cycles so even charging twice per week means the battery should be good for the life of the car. MG offer 7 years warranty on the whole car. Yes, the long range NMC battery only has a charge cycle rate of approx 1500 cycles but this would still be 14 years at 2 charges per week. More reviews should talk about the LFP/NMC battery difference. Even Tesla Model 3 & Model Y are moving over to LFP batteries.
@@undecided25 it's all theory, nothing else. And in my opinion gram of practice is worth tons of theory. So please enjoy your beta testing of these Chinese carts for your money and I will watch.
Great video Johnny, you’re so right about the MG! We’ve had an MG5 for the last 6 months or so, and I really can’t fault it. I’m a petrol head at heart too, and was initially reluctant but this is honestly one of the best cars in terms of value, drive-ability and spec I’ve ever owned.
Never thought i would ever say i like MG cars. But i have been driving an MG5 EV since June as a company vehicle. I have covered 6k miles without any issues and i would even consider owning one as a my own private vehicle. I'm impressed with MGs so far
@@tobyhall7617 Not realy, the Chinese models which they are based on is slightly different. The Design house in Longbridge, Birmingham does customize it for Europe.
@@tobyhall7617 Had MG-Rover been a Public Sector Bottomless Money pit Organ, taxpayer rescue and sustaining funds would have been provided. The then UK Government called in the receivers and unless news of the fake variety, acted to torpedo any chnace of a joint venture with a far Eastern manufacture on the lines of the previous and successful Honda~ Austin Rover Group Partnership . MG-Rover was a Private Company then and thus did not align with their ideology... A harmful to the Nation one and ongoing. I voted for that shower three times! Never again. Mug Brits sold the remnant IPRs of the much asset stripped former massively asset rich Rover Group then known as MG-Rover for peanuts to the Chinese owners of the marque. Who have used it well Worldwide with increasing sales even here in the UK.. Yes, Rover group asset stripped by the Bavarian outfit ( Foreign owners of the once massively asset rich Rover Group ) who needed TWO small cars in their otherwise Gas Guzzler Model line up or be penalised heavily by the EU constraints and guidelines. Soon after acquiring Rover Group for relatively little, they sold off the JLR assets. JLR sold to FOMOCO for more than they paid for the whole sheebang unless those figures quoted were fake news. The huge R&D costs of those two small cars BMW set against the Rover accounts to demonstrate what they called, here I use their words. "The English Patient.. " Millions of Brits bought into that Bovine Excrement and still do to this day! Then if that was not enough, sold off the remnants which became known as MG-Rover for a tenner so escaping the massive redundancy costs had the company been wound up then. Mug UK Governments still see foreign ownership of so many aspects of the UK and its various assets as "Foreign Investment" .. often given massive under the table taxpayer financial inducements to set up here with access to greenfield sites denied to many "In House" British concerns. Most like Honda warned when it suited them, not the UK, they will up sticks and leave. Give credit to Honda company, well before any mention of an IN-OUT EU Referendum, they told us that, Yet cue some of the more poisonous sectors of UK Main Stream Media blaming the OUT voters for that. FAKE NEWS since denied by the honourable Honda Motor Company of Japan. As a Nation we seem determined to fall for the three card trick time and again. Many Brits form queues still to pay over the odds for BMWs and other foreign built Automotive product. That adds to the UK impressive increases in exports. Yes exports of many worthwhile UK careers and jobs straight out of the country ... The USA is not the only place having "Rust Belts" Still they come in their thousands daily to treat the UK Taxpayers as mugs. It's now twenty years since I ordered and bought the last MG new, one of several over the decades. In so doing sustaining good jobs and careers for the good folks of the Midlands at Longbridge. Still have the last MG I bought new and the new Rover Metro in the family fleet bought twenty nine years ago. I can no longer have the pleasure of doing that ever again. I can of course buy a nice new MG tomorrow like several folks down my street have done. All tell me they are delighted with their new MGs when I ask them. Nothing wrong with that except, those nice new MGs should have been built and manufactured by the folks of the UK's Midlands as was once the case many years ago! Only in the UK .. :sigh: If having read so far, you get the impression I have strong feelings about so many of the wrong decisions those we entrust to this Nation's well being have failed us by, you'd be quite correct. Worse still, it's ongoing. I am far from alone in having these strong views and those who feel the same way or rapidly increasing in number. Many here could learn from those folks across the other side of the Atlantic. Make a start with the following Mission Statement. UK FIRST.
Another honest, unbiased review Jonny. I like the finer details you get into, the level of finish within the boot area. No one else would pick up on these things. Top man!
Shame Kia aren't still doing what they were doing 4-5 years ago. Still making great cars but the prices now are just as astronomical as everyone else. MG4 & Dacia look to be on a roll, good luck to em.
Really good review, great to see cars like this that Hyundai used to offer. 5 years on from our Ioniq, this offers twice the range, faster acceleration and twice the charging speed for the same money. What's not to like?
As many in the comments here had my ZS EV for a year now. Can't fault it. Did 13500 miles on £216 of electric according to my charger app. It's brilliant. Highly recommend any doubters to try one.
@@phuketexplorer that's the rub with these. To 'upgrade' I'd probably have to spend over 15 grand after part-ex. Unless changing anyway, saves money to actually stick with the current petrol/diesel car.
Absolutely considering an MG. As a traditional country dweller, I think the EV5 is the one I'd have. Absolutely not a badge snob, but will always buy the vehicle that suits what I need. More over, why the hell hasn't Jonny been put on the telly box with a motoring show??? His presentation style is absolutely on point, a joy to watch and listen to.
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) ruclips.net/video/pnmaYPewyB8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YiHITQFtTQo/видео.html The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. ruclips.net/video/1FjOIqSuhO8/видео.html China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. ruclips.net/video/xIyenQ-njlQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RdkHA_-xryk/видео.html
24:26 I picked up a new style MG5 here in France this week…. It’s so good! No new car glitches, good panel fit, no rattles etc. The touch screen navigation and entertainment screen is very responsive. I made a point of not reading the user manual - everything is just evident - no surprises. And it goes well - the long range luxury version has all the toys and is certainly fast enough. Just back from the DIY store with 2.4m lengths of wood no problem!
Hi Jonny, thanks for the presentation. I bought an ex demo MG5 Exclusive last October - my previous vehicle was a 2004 Range Rover with LPG conversion - lovely vehicle but began costing lots of money at each successive MOT. The MG5 has, so far proved to be faultless - the air conditioning is the best that I've experienced in any vehicle that I've owned in the past. Its completely unobtrusive in operation. I generally drive in 'economy' mode and max 'regen' mode. Recently, in the hot weather. it was returning 4.6 miles per kwh - I pay 21p per kWh on economy 7 so circa 4.7 pence per mile. The 12 month service cost £70 and that included cleaning inside and out and took about an hour. Have been thoroughly impressed with the car.
The biggest problem is that if you buy it you are supporting the Chinese government... remember? The people who gave you the pandemic, the people who do social engineering like no other....the people who are helping to destroy your children's way of life....that price seem so reasonable now?
@@golfbulldog I suggest you take a look at every device, appliance, piece of equipment, clothing, etc. you own and get back to us as to the country of manufacture.
At last a great looking car from MG! Ultra competitive against its rivals and has all the ‘toys’ you would ever need when driving from A to B. It’s a no bargainer Jonny!
I have a Polestar, and I like the centre console. But I'm old, so it doesn't count. And this car here, is really significant and exciting. It's a huge step up in value for EV's. It's the first time an EV with "full" functionality has come out with a price hugely undercutting its obvious competition. The warranty is incredible. The 64 kWh is interesting. Are theses all the same across the manufacturers? Is it all CATL? I have a 69 kWh Polestar, which first came out with 64 kWh. And there are all the Korean 64 kWh too.
Finally an EV with practical motorway range (able to go for almost 3h at 70mph after a quick rest stop) at a decent price. And it's not a SUV!!! Hurray!
It's great the MG4 has V2L at this price because it will force pretty much all manufacturers into adding it. And I think that will make EVs in general just that bit more attractive compared with ICE vehicles especially for campers and people in areas that have frequent power cuts. I wonder what will happen with battery warranties for people who start using their vehicles every day as a home battery. Would reduce the lifespan of the battery but the warranties are based on mileage and time not number of charges/discharges.
mg4 51kwh model use LFP battery , that has longer lifespan then the mg4 64kwh model with Ternary lithium battery. lfp battery normaly had 2000 time charging cycle. so if you worry about it you can choose 51kwh model. battery warranties will ensure the degeneration of battery within 20% . if warranties out of date you can still use the rest 80%.
@@xiaoyang9758 Interesting thanks. I did wonder about whether it was LFP or not as I was watching the video. Car reviewers tend not to mention it and I think it's a pretty important consideration.
@@nitelite78 lot of people are watting mg4 here in china ,in china mg4 call MG MULAN. there already over 40000 per-order. and the price in china are not release yet. 😂😂
I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure there’s more to battery degradation than just charge discharge cycles. Those are just a quick ball park spec to give a rough idea of battery lifespan. The rate you charge and discharge the battery’s makes a huge difference. If you have a smart metre at home, you’ll probably see that most of the time your home is drawing 100s of watts, rather than a few kilowatt (a few thousand watts) which is what an EV consumes whilst cruising and even more when accelerating. Drawing power at a lower wattage general results in less heat. Roughly speaking, less heat = less degradation, so I can’t see people using there EV as a home battery make much difference to the lifespan of the pack. Especially considering you’d have to be trying really hard to drain the entire pack in a day just from your home. Like I say, I’m not an expert. Just a nerd whose been following EVs since 2014 😊 Edit: Just adding to my initial comment. For context on how much energy you use in a home,p vs an EV uses driving. Our Hyundai Kona takes about 12 hours to charge from empty to full drawing 7 kW most of the way. Again, roughly speaking (you need to account for losses in electricity transmission etc) that means to drain the entire 64 kWh battery in the Kona in a day, you’d need to sustain a 7 kW draw for around 9 hours. You are very unlikely to draw anything near that for half and hour, let alone 9.
Absolutely fantastic video again Jonny, watched it with my Dad who is seriously considering an MG4 to replace the horrible diesel evoque he’s got just now. I’ve got an MG3 and I just absolutely love it. I love that this isn’t a pretentious softroader, it’s a comfortable, well equipped, spacious and affordable family car with a superb range and it’s actually quite enjoyable to drive. Cheers again legend Jonny
Absolutely would drive an MG. Looks good and most importantly great value. Hopefully other manufacturers who've been pushing prices up for EVs will have to respond. Like you I think a new MG5 estate with sharper looks will be just the ticket. Like an e-Niro, only more car-ish
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) ruclips.net/video/pnmaYPewyB8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YiHITQFtTQo/видео.html The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. ruclips.net/video/1FjOIqSuhO8/видео.html China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. ruclips.net/video/xIyenQ-njlQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RdkHA_-xryk/видео.html
You do know it's just a random metal box with a badge stuck on it that people have heard of..?! It has NOTHING to do with real MGs.....! That doesn't mean it can't be a great car, of course.......!!
This is one of the best reviews of an ev or even a new car in general. I am going to have to seriously rethink what the brand actually means to me because I think sometimes we are nearly brainwashed into thinking certain brands mean More than they actually do mean
Keith, look at the better known customer satisfaction surveys to see what brainwashing ( or clever marketing) does. The so-called "prestige" brands are nowhere near the top, and the lesser perceived brands (such as Dacia and Skoda) are often way higher up the scale than your head suggests they ought to be......
The first good value family hatch EV I've seen - I see the BYD Atto 3 as it's natural competitor if and when that arrives. At that price/warranty it's hard to say anything against it. Plus they say for each 5k you drop in price, you double the number of prospective buyers. This should do well, the only real drawback is production numbers. How many rhd MG4s can they import, not nearly enough I imagine. Good review, Jonny.
As Jonny says, MG feels like a value brand to me. But that's a hell of a discount compared to its competitors. Kudos to Jonny for being frank about his own prejudices, I think I'm with him on this one. With a challenging financial mess ahead for the next couple of years, I think more people will forego the brand snobbery, especially as those brands often fail to earn our custom. Is MG the new Skoda or Kia? 🤔
We have had an ID.3 First edition for 1,5 years now and are so satisfied that we want to replace our remaining VW Golf VI GTD. After watching this video I have placed an order for the 64kWh Luxury edition of the MG4. I am so excited, especially for the V2L functionality!
Yeah, as long as there's decent mpg, the most environmentally friendly car is the one you already have, so I'll be doing the same (although my Ford's mpg is definitely rather less than 65!), but it's good to see what the future holds in store! I look forward to seeing this car on the roads, and eventually the 2nd hand market, and what it will hopefully do to the competition
@@EcceJack that’s not strictly true though. You can burn through enough fuel to match the CO2 of building a new car in 10,000 to 30,000 miles so it depends on how much you drive. Engineering Explained has run the numbers and made a good video on it.
@@EcceJack "most environmentally friendly car is the one you already" Not relevant anymore. The number of cars being manufactured has collapsed. You have no real way to effect the number of cars being scrapped and replaced. It is entirely up to the supply of cars available. Just because a singular person keeps their old car has negligible effect to all registered cars on the road. The less cars that are being manufactured, the longer old cars are kept.
I see a lot of MG evs about where I live, near the old Longbridge plant, and although a new ev is way out of my price bracket, this car looks good enough to tempt the badge snobs away from their go to marques. A very fair and unbiased review. Well done sir.
I like it! I wish they were available in the US. Sounds like a great set of features and excellent range. As a multiple electric car owner, I agree with your assessment about the range here being ideal.
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 Except for Polestar 1 probably? But other polestars would be built in North Carolina afterwards... Good for US jobs anyways I guess
As an owner of MG5 which is currently on 12k miles and I’ve owned a year to the date.. It’s still solid with no creaks or noises.. also to mention at its service last week the battery degradation was still at 100% which is great. Also to mention MG parent brand SAIC manufacture VW ID’s for Volkswagen for the Chinese market so they can’t be that bad!
well they made it right and at the right price point. the idea from all China brands is that they want you to not be brand concious and save your money for some other things in life. It is a lifestyle not a brand.
I currently drive a 40kw Leaf and really like it but would absolutely drive the MG4. I would also choose it over an ID3. The Leaf was not compared in this video, not a surprise because first impressions, its better in almost every way, and for less money.
Good review. Plenty of information. Personally, I'd never pay more for a badge. Reliability and build quality yes, but I'd always go for the value option. The likes of VW should be getting very nervous.
I’ll be waiting for the performance model. I owned one of the last MGZS 2.5 V6 for 8 years and clocked 100k miles with no problems. A lovely car and was proud driving the MG. I wish I still had it.
I can actually see myself driving this, quite a fan of the ID3 and was at the time the only EV I would have considered but the MG4 looks so much better, the interior is quite familiar to my C4 Cactus very minimalist, I think MG are going to be the king's of EV very soon, another great review Mr Smith.
I love the 17" wheels - VW needs to take a hint on this. Slightly smaller wheels let you go farther on a charge, all else being equal. RWD is awesome! If it had a volume knob and a slightly shallower "plinth" for the shift knob - it was pretty close to your left knee. Having the space for your leg is a god-send for us taller folks - I am 6'-4"/~173cm and center consoles are the bane of too many cars.
Initial reaction, I’d pick this over an ID.3, Zoe, e corsa, e208 etc in a heartbeat. Why spend the extra when you don’t have to? Brand loyalty = Consumer stupidity IMO. I think this could be the most important car to launch in Europe this year. Will wait for some more reviews to say for sure though. I’m particularly looking forward to Bjorn Nyland putting it through its paces 😊
Often thought of Kia and Hyundai when I read of the early sneery reviews of MGs. People laughed at the Kia Pride and Hyundai Pony years ago. Now look at those two. MG seems to have done this "brand growing" in an nth of the time.
Hi Jonny. Just about to order a white SE standard range so your excellent review helped a lot. One thing that reviewers are missing though is the battery chemistry for the standard range (LFP) and long range (NMC). As most EV users actually do relatively short journeys, the standard range LFP that can happily charge from 0% to 100% all day long would generally be sufficient for every day use. Even using fake WLTP figures, 100% of 218 miles is 218 !!. However where the long range NMC battery should only be charged to 80% on a routine basis, you end up with a similar "actual" WLTP figure of 224 miles (281 X 80% = 224 miles).Charging an NMC battery to 100% on a regular basis apparently damages the cells. Also the LFP battery has a far greater charge cycle count than the NMC battery. When I fist test drove the MG4 I too thought that a long range SE was the sweet spot but now i'm not so sure. Unless you are regularly going to do road trip level miles, I can't see any reason why the standard range SE would't be the sweet spot for most peoples daily needs. The fake WLTP situation has just replaced the fake MPG figures for ICE cars and i think manufactures dealers and indeed reviewers are missing the opportunity to finally inject some true clarity into the actual mileage that EVs will do and in fact what EV drivers are doing on a daily basis. Unless that is i'm completely missing something. Anyhooo, thanks for a great informative video.
I do tend to agree with you. I’ve had an MG5 for two years and it was a wonderful car. I’ve traded in for an MG4 SE standard range. It’s a lovely vehicle. Totally different from the MG5. However, so far my miles per KWH in the cold weather have been a bit disappointing at 2.8. I’m sure this will improve massively as temperatures rise. For most people, the standard range car is more than enough. It is very rare that I do a trip of 200 miles. When I have done, rapid charging hasn’t been a problem using reliable chargers like Instavolt. I’m not sure that for most people, it’s worth paying £3.5K more for a long range battery. I may be wrong, but, not for me.
Really interesting. I might have opted for the long range battery had I not known this, but it sounds like the NMC would be the way to go for my kind of mileage.
I enjoyed your unbiased appraisal of the MG4 Johny, and have to say that I was quite impressed which is very strange because I am not an EV fan! I know we responsible citizens should all be doing our bit for the environment, but from where I stand there are still too many obstacles and potential problems with buying and owning an EV! The biggest concern that most have, as I have learnt from friends is, 'charging', and how long it can take if a supercharger is not available! No matter, the MG4 is very nice and may have swayed me if it had been available in early 2022 when I traded in my old Jag for a newer one. Keep up the good work.
Currently driving a Toyota Hybrid which is great but, I would seriously consider this if moving over to full electric….interested in the seating position as I prefer at my age a higher position for ease of getting in and out…..GREAT REVIEW 👍
I had a 2014 MG3 for 2 years and it definitely felt cheap but no more cheap than the likes of a Corsa for example. Definitely great "bang for your buck". My only complaint was that it needed a new clutch at 40k miles which seemed premature to me... People like to slate them still because "they're not a real MG" and they're made in china but the "real" MGs had their faults and Volvo are chinese these days so I really don't see the issue. Great review
Tell me if put A. a small petro engine that could charge EV instead of plugging in would that not be better? B. Put a row or several rows of turbines on the roof that turn from the wind that would charge the car? Possibly magnetically accellerated faster than the wind but wind gets them moving
Yeah I had a 2017mg3 for about 2 years, was going to need a new clutch too, but everything else was spot on. I swapped it to a micra even though it was a better quality car and better mpg while being faster having a turbo...I missed the mg3 compared too. It was a bargain as well! I really do think it is the..'its Chinese' So I'm gonna hate it with every review being biased. I even test drove an mg6 and loved that too, handled well while being as comfy as my rover 75
Another great review! I think this is a game changer, proving just how overpriced the VWs and Cupras are, even Kia I think people want a range of 300 miles for a reasonable price I don't know if I want one, but I'm interested in what the rest of the industry will do in response. At least there are some interestig EVs coming out, for a reasonable price without a load of silly gimmicks
Nothing beats a Tesla ! comes with farting noises ! Tesla Model 3: £51,090. Tesla Model 3 Long Range: £60,090. Tesla Model 3 Performance: £62,590.Aug 16, 2022
Great review, this is exactly the car I have been waiting for. I love the Ioniq5 but it’s too expensive. I have a Golf and that form factor is so practical, this MG does look like an great EV option.
Great video once again! As an MG enthusiast it’s great to see some great interest in the MG brand once again. This looks like a great car and I’m very much looking forward to the next MGs using this platform.
I love my MGs (ZT and TF) also owned a SAIC MG6 previously, all great cars. My son also has an MG ZT, his girlfriend has an MG3 and her dad has just bought a facelift MG3 too as he was so impressed with the value they offer. Looking forward to something sporty from them in future - even though the new cars are all way out of my price range!
If SAIC is going to accord the same respect to the MG brand as Geely has the Volvo badge, and there's every reason to think SAIC will, MG's second wind is probably going to be a long, successful one.
I would honestly have no problem buying an MG and don’t see the badge as any less than a Kia, Hyundai or Renault and I’d certainly rather this than a Peugeot or a Vauxhall. If you’re buying a car - for the purpose of being a car, why not? Different matter if you want performance or a toy perhaps, but st that money it’s no more than an equivalent spec ICE family hatch. Looks smart, well equipped and if it drives well enough, I see this as a decent family car/commuter if you can have a toy for the driving you actually want to do.
MG have been making silent but great moves lately and I believe this is the start of the brands revival in Europe. I'm glad to see the MG brand back, such a great marque that was squandered and as now as an EV it brand couldn't be more perfect.
I think the comparison with the early Japanese and Korean cars is valid. Ignore MG at your peril. Great review. And good pheasant and grandfather clock content... something sadly missing from the yoof reviewers 😅
As someone from the U.S., I’ll never see most of the cars you review. I really love seeing the beautiful countryside as you drive! The B roads I can’t get over. So narrow and hedges really close to the pavement. The cars are a nice touch, and your reviews of them are great!
Just ordered an MG4 Trophy after a fun test drive, to replace our 3yr old MG ZS EV. The ZS EV has been a brilliant car, and at the time it was best in class, but the MG4 is a big step up again! So, I'm really pleased with MG as a brand, good build quality (after 3 years the ZS EV shows no rattles or other aging signs), good reliability, good support from dealers - but now we can get excellent range and great styling too - and for the price, an absolute no brainer!!
Excellent review and a good insight. Couple of items you missed: - the Trophy gets a raised floor in the boot as an extra option. Why you'd want to lose the extra space is beyond me, but hey, whatever you're into! - the Trophy also gets storage slots on the back of each front seat for rear passengers. Minor item but useful. - tow rating of 500kg across the range: excellent! - no roof rack: the one item that stops it from becoming a direct competitor to the Niro EV. Lastly, and related to the last statement: the new Niro EV is €11,000 MORE than the Trophy MG4 in Ireland. Wow...... Personally, I'd love all the spec of the Trophy model, but in the long-range SE body so allow the maximum range........ Deposit is down and still time to decide
Honestly sounds like a brilliant car for the price. Vehicle to load is the key thing that most are missing & I think the big differentiator over the next few years. Get this, you don't need a £10k home battery.
On EV-database it says it's vehicle-to-load but not vehcile-to-home, so not quite replacing home batteries yet. I.e. with an adaptor you can run a three pin socket from the car's charging port but you can't plug it in to your home charger and run the whole house. But hopefully V2H will come soon.
That looks a really great option. If they can make MG4s for that price range then hopefully we can have smaller, compact, lower range cars for under £20K
@markyes brand new fix started this month. 2.45p per mile. Be an idiot not to be on an ev tariff with an ev. Battery will last longer than you'll likely own the car 15 years to 80% typically. Still far cheaper than petrol at 30-40p/mile and I spend less leasing my 'shit' mg than I'd be paying on petrol on any non electric and it's a fraction the monthly cost of a tesla
Thanks for a great review. Most comprehensive one of the MG4 that I've seen so far. Got my MG4 SE Long Range on order, going to seem a very long wait ! :-)
That's the first EV I've seen that I actually like the look of. I think when it has the mentioned switchable battery pack it'll clean up on the volume EV market.
It's unlikely there will be any "switchable" battery packs. There are two big issues. 1. What happens to your 8 year battery warranty if you have it "switched"? 2. After the switch, how could you be sure you didn't end up with someone else's abused battery? Battery swapping stations would be unviable to operate. They would need to be open 24/7, and be at least double manned for H & S reasons. They would need to keep dozens of different types and capacities of battery packs, fully charged, and in stock to cater for the different models of EV..... It's not happening anytime soon. Tesla dropped the concept of battery swapping in 2013, in favour of their Supercharger network, which can add 75 miles of range for every 5 minutes the car is hooked up to the charger. Increased charging infrastructure and faster charging times will render battery swapping pointless.
@@Brian-om2hh I wasn't talking about "battery swapping stations", we're talking having user swappable 'suitcase' batteries that you swap out at home, have one set charging on a wall charger in your home whilst the other set is in the car. No need for a driveway or garage or for cables trailing out into the street. You underestimate how many (city) drivers don't have these things.
Jonny Smith must be the best Motoring Journalist on RUclips. He really goes into total detail and anybody interested gets to see and hear all the answers customers normally ask for. Recently I watched another critic describing the Hyundai IONIQ 5 but at the same time comparing and running it down whilst comparing it to some BMW. Please...... I wouldnt be watching if i was (heaven help me) interested in that BMW. Before closing he actually chose the BMW ahead of the Hyundai......What a joke....
Really great review. These MGs are making me really consider one for the next car. I am still concerned that I many do motorway driving and over 400 miles per week but I have a drive and home every night.
Another stellar and in-depth review which I really appreciate, you always cover what any prospective buyer would want to know and the ones we forget to ask. Totally would buy an MG, build and components look mid range in comparison to other manufactures but what swings it for me is the spec being so good for something that price especially with the future proofing.
I think this is a great car review channel. It hits a sweet-spot of what I actually want to know about a car (and that doesn't involve how quickly it goes round the Nurburgring). The MG4 looks great, I have a 5 year old 30KWHr Nissan Leaf. It's perfect except for 2 things .... range, and the crazy Chademo charger. That mean I have 2 cars. This and the MG5 look like cars will replace my 2 cars. I think they both accept towbars.... because I need to pull a 500kg trailer.
The best review yet of the MG4 👏👏 no faff , just honest observation, as always , top draw sir ! Yes we brits are badge snobs , but this is on the change in these cash tight times. I too dont 'get' the ID3 , looks and feel cheep inside , and bland outside.
MG have really had an amazing rise over the last few years and the current product is great and gets better with every launch. They are also positioning themselves to grab a sizeable share of the market in coming years. It may not be the MG of old, but it’s great to see the brand doing well and leading the way in affordable EV’s for the masses. Proof that you can offer the consumer value and be successful - something most car manufacturers have forgotten in the pursuit of ever higher margins.
I've been looking at a BEV ever since I was able to join the fleet scheme at work. Sadly, the prices have all gone up since I started six months ago and even the ID.3 has gone from doable to too expensive. But the MG4 is definitely on the fringes of affordable. I've got to say, the Chinese have done a good job on this one, I like how it looks, it has useful levels of kit and it seems it'll be the ideal commuter car. I've booked a test drive, I'm keen to see just how nice it is for myself.
Great review Jonny as ever. In answer to your question in the video, i would much prefer to drive something like this vs an ID3 at the price point. If i was going down the EV route (which i will be in about 18 months), MG is a brand i'd give serious consideration to. It's great value for money by the looks of it, decent design and the interior really does it for me. As someone who has a few other cars for my weekend fun, i could well see myself in this as a daily. Like you mention at the end, me 8 years ago would have gone for a badge that looks cool (Audi, BMW), but i'm just not convinced by those brands when it comes to EVs or quality anymore. I think i'd now prefer a top spec "lesser" badge than a rubbish spec "top" badge.
Thanks for not calling it "affordable" or "cheap" Jonny, You're the only one not doing that, too. Reviews which do that for £25,000+ (and more, even approaching £40,000) cars incense me.. Our last new car was less than £10,000. I've done the numbers on the lower running costs but all that does is prove once again that you need money to make or save money. I like Robert Llewellyn because he used to be Kryten but You're my favourite reviewer of EVs.
Had my mg5 for a couple of years now. Saved thousands compared to petrol, had no problems and not noticing any drop in range. Been really good value so far.
As always, loving Jonny's honesty. I guess most people felt the same about MG originally. Brand snobbery is still a thing, but that's changing with the dynamics of the Pacific rim manufacturers. Traditional Western producers are going to have to change quickly, or they'll go to the wall.
I am seriously considering getting the Citroen EC4 (maybe EC4x) mainly due to the fact that I have multiple spinal injuries and the comfort is amazing, but, this has really tweaked my interest.
Nice to hear someone praising value when it counts, MG are really trying to make electric , and environmentally friendly cars affordable for the mass market sector, even though it is still obscene compared to some peoples living’s standards in our world today.
Great video as always, and this car has piqued my interest! One thing seems odd - the standard range model appears to have a slightly lower miles/kWh efficiency compared to the long range. I'd expect standard range to do the same or slightly better, as it's lighter. I'd be interested to know how the real world range and efficiency of the two battery sizes compare.
Swapping my Peugeot e-208 GT for a Long Range SE. I prefer the looks of the Peugeot inside and out, but it appears that the MG4 betters it in every other measurable way (and for less money!) Fantastic detail in your review as ever 👏🏻
Cupra born is bigger inside than the MG or the Kia E Niro. Cupra infotainment is a bit laggy on start up but works well. The MG does look very different "taking" design ideas from other cars. If you want a large family EV the ID3 and Cupra Born beat all other cars but cost a bit more. Pity the KIA wasn't bigger inside as I like the look and KIA's are built very well. I bought a Cupra Born V2 62kwh as it suited my family needs. MG would have been in the running if I didn't need the interior leg room.
I have put a deposit on the mg4 se lr. Today but I got to wait till January 2023 till estimates delivery So I have instructed MG to give me a 2023 23 plate when I receive it in march 2023. That’s a long wait. But it gives me time to get an ev charging box attached to the garage. Good entertaining informative thoughtful programmes. Thanks
Thorough, high quality review as usual from Jonny. Superb. Surprised by this one. Exterior styling is a bit whiffy (in my opinion) but the package on offer for the price is incredible. MG will find a good few buyers in the UK on that basis I think.
Very interested to see how the MG4 compares with the Ora Cat when it comes to the UK. Having had a close up look at the Cat, which is similarly priced, a new Chinese brand for me has more appeal that a re-invented old British brand.
I’ve driven the ZS & thought it was pretty good but this one looks like a very worthy contender indeed. One thing I do not like is those leads popping up through looking like a poor diy charging option. Come on MG wireless chargers are a must nowadays.
I'd happily have the top spec of this instead of a base model i.d3 thanks Johnny. Yeah I am cheap like that. I think we are paying way too much for a badge sometimes. Currently driving a good ol' Kia e Niro FE. 😊
I agree with all the comments here, what an excellent, well thought through and well executed review. Not only did I enjoy it, but Jonny, you tapped into many of my feelings about the new SAIC incarnation of MG. The biggest point is that you gave it a fair chance, judged it purely on what it is and does and didn't just pigeon hole it and spend the rest of the review trying to find fault or abusing it. I'm absolutely intrigued by these cars and am coming around to the idea that when our old 53 plate CR-V finally gives up (or I give up maintaining it) that a ZSEV might be an option, or better still, downsize to one of these. I'm really impressed and now I feel I should be asking for a test drive myself.
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Not particularly interested in MG but watched from start to finish. Jonny is hands down the best car reviewer on RUclips or any medium for that matter 👌🏽
Jonny paid Raymond £6, a tub of ice cream and a ticket to Retro Rides Gathering to say this.
@@TheLateBrakeShow you had me at “tub of ice cream” 🍦
I wasn't interested in MG, just happened to pass the dealer after test driving Tesla's. I ended up with an MG5.
Now I know that it's no Tesla and it's ugly, but it's not half the car either but it was half the price. If I had water in light fittings on my £24,000 MG I would take it back to the dealer, Tesla put their £50,000 car out as a demo.
Really fancy an MG4 with the dual motors, what a street sleeper and how many embarrassed super car owners!
@@BRI535D Fully Charged is excellent too but not as in depth or as engaging IMHO and that’s what matters
@@BRI535D must have changed then, Robert used to know nothing about cars and just rant about fossil and price during his reviews.
I run an MG5 as a taxi 73000 miles in 20 months fault free still same range. Brake pads worn about 10% from new. Customers absulutly love it.
That is praise indeed for the MG5. Until the MG4 appeared, the MG5 would be at the top of my shopping list if I ever go full EV.
Chinese MGs are used as Taxis for years. One even appeared frequently as a Taxi on the popular TV Series Doc Martin. That being an MG6 1.8 Petrol Turbo. According to some reports, MG6s used as taxis 200,000 miles is not unusual. The MG 6 is a far better car than many would have you believe for some reason when they first appeared on these shores. The Chinese having bought the IPRs of the MG Marque for relatively buttons, made an excellent job of their version of Rover's 1.8 turbocharged K-Series.
Johnnie's enthusiasm comes over strongly for the MG4. Looks like I shall have to see for myself, ideally with actual "hands on" experience rather than the opinions of others who sometimes allow their bias and prejudice to distort and mislead.
not true whatsoever. that would violate the laws of physics. it's completely impossible that the batteries haven't degraded. they do. it's just your shitty on board computer that doesn't tell you the truth. you DO NOT have the same range.
@@riskinhos All on board computers speaketh with forked tongue occasionally.
His "same range" experience could be ca. hundred miles per day subject to use. .
Great feedback. Thanks.
@@riskinhos I have heard the batteries are slightly larger than their stated capacity so the degradation that does happen is not shown by the on-board computer......
This is how you review the car.
Fair play Johnny you are the No.1 car reviewer in my eyes 👍👍👍
its a rebadged chinese EV.
Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation orSAIC
owns MG brand. Dont be fooled.
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Great sloganeering. Basic intelligence, not so much.
The Chinese have sent machines to the dark side of the moon and rovers on Mars - all without any glitches. And here you are belittling their abilities to build EVs, which are positively low-tech stuff compared to those things they build for the moon and Mars. You need to rewire your head, dude.
@@tocreatee3585 Everything is now being made in China thats why everything is So Poor now, I get sent to Customers Machine yesterday, They Complained They Struggle to Open Door, I had No Solution For Them, All I Could Say is Cheap Chinese Locks and Keys Unless There Replaced With Good Quality You'll have to Put up with it. Have same issue on Arcade Machine Locks
@@kindface yeah of course they have, wake up its all bullshit, no one has been to the moon, stop being fooled by fools called nasa
@@tocreatee3585 it is not rebadged. It is a straight forward Chinese car. They bought the MG/Rover logo when it went bankrupt. These cars are nothing whatsoever to do with the old MG company. They are purely Chinese with a retained UK design base in Birmingham. Also, they are super, value for money motors. Probably like the telephone/computer you are using to post your comments. 😂
We've had two Leaf's a MG ZS EV and a Tesla Model 3. We currently have the Model 3 and the ZS EV.
With the exception of handling the MG is the best EV we've had. Yes, the Tesla is fast and handles well, but, for what it is and how much it cost the MG is an absolutely cracking EV. Ours is 2.5 years old and has been faultless and brilliantly built, better built than the Model 3.
The ZS will.be replaced by the MG4, legacy manufacturers need to keep a close eye on MG.
What do you think @gareth Saunders, would you upgrade to this from a 40kwh leaf?
Free charging with the Tesla is a great option
Go live in china then !!!
So you've made a habit out of buying cars?
As an MG Rover Mechanic. I love the brand owning many cars from this brand last being the MG Maestro Turbo. Really good to see the brand bouncing back 👌 Alan Partridge 🤣
chinese communist party owns it
You know it has nothing to do with the original brand beside the name only
@@NS_Miata Did you know Rolls Royce has nothing to do with the original brand and is now a VW, similar for Bentley 😂
Go live in china then !!!
@@forsdykemontague1017 RR is BMW. Bentley is VW.
I bought a 2nd hand ZSEV expecting some oddities and little issues. Non! It’s 2 years old, 20K, drive superbly, saves us £100+ a month in fuel, has lots of tech and the kids love the glass roof. The thing I added was a spare wheel and tint to the rear glass. Funnily enough we had a opportunity to hire a ID4 on hols and we were all pleased to be back in the ZSEV after, funny software in the VW and far more plasticity surfaces than a VW £50k should have. I a big fan now of SAIC (MG) 👍
How much does a two year old one cost?
Felt the same about an ID3 I had a go in. Overly complicated software and disappointingly plasticky for the money. Glad I’ve got the ZSEV
No comparison between the id4 and szev the zs is one of the worst cars I’ve ever drove my ev van is better to drive. I agree the tech is decent level but the quality ect is not good and the range is awful
That is some impressive praise.
FWIW with our (great!) ZSEV ownership experience, and non-stellar time friends have had with VW, SAIC are on our future consideration list and VW just aren't.
I think we lost you for a moment there, Jonny. Full on '80s flashback going on. Love it!
I absolutely would drive one of these. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a Tesla Model S, but there's no way I'm forking out £700 a month. I'm very much looking forward to test driving an MG4!
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc...
Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies )
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The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice.
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China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you.
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Johnnie is the best motoring journalist by far…no waffle or unnecessary numbers…talks to you as an equal and keeps it interesting…top man 👍
Cheers 👍🏻
Yeah completely agree.
I been keeping my eye on this since they announced it. For 28k for the mid trim with decent range and 7 years warranty. You can’t go wrong. Is nice looking as well. I’m certainly will buy one of these.
and after warranty is finished prepare to burn your car, because not a single idiot on this planet will buy second hand EV car with semi dead battery. And price for new battery=price for new car, lol.
@@VYM Who would keep a EV? Usually buy with pcp for 4 years and just chance it for something else lol.
@@VYM The standard range LFP battery has a charge cycle rate of 3,000 - 10,0000 cycles so even charging twice per week means the battery should be good for the life of the car. MG offer 7 years warranty on the whole car. Yes, the long range NMC battery only has a charge cycle rate of approx 1500 cycles but this would still be 14 years at 2 charges per week. More reviews should talk about the LFP/NMC battery difference. Even Tesla Model 3 & Model Y are moving over to LFP batteries.
@@undecided25 it's all theory, nothing else. And in my opinion gram of practice is worth tons of theory. So please enjoy your beta testing of these Chinese carts for your money and I will watch.
@VYM's Playpen stay undecided waiting for inflation eating your savings 🤣
Great video Johnny, you’re so right about the MG! We’ve had an MG5 for the last 6 months or so, and I really can’t fault it. I’m a petrol head at heart too, and was initially reluctant but this is honestly one of the best cars in terms of value, drive-ability and spec I’ve ever owned.
Never thought i would ever say i like MG cars. But i have been driving an MG5 EV since June as a company vehicle. I have covered 6k miles without any issues and i would even consider owning one as a my own private vehicle. I'm impressed with MGs so far
It's not an mg they've went bankrupt with rover years ago they 100% Chinese
@@tobyhall7617 It's still an MG by name. Your comment makes as much sense as saying Jaguar, Rolls Royce or Bentley, went bankrupt years ago.
@@tobyhall7617 Not realy, the Chinese models which they are based on is slightly different. The Design house in Longbridge, Birmingham does customize it for Europe.
@@tobyhall7617 FYI back then Rover was owned by BMW.
@@tobyhall7617 Had MG-Rover been a Public Sector Bottomless Money pit Organ, taxpayer rescue and sustaining funds would have been provided. The then UK Government called in the receivers and unless news of the fake variety, acted to torpedo any chnace of a joint venture with a far Eastern manufacture on the lines of the previous and successful Honda~ Austin Rover Group Partnership . MG-Rover was a Private Company then and thus did not align with their ideology... A harmful to the Nation one and ongoing. I voted for that shower three times! Never again.
Mug Brits sold the remnant IPRs of the much asset stripped former massively asset rich Rover Group then known as MG-Rover for peanuts to the Chinese owners of the marque. Who have used it well Worldwide with increasing sales even here in the UK..
Yes, Rover group asset stripped by the Bavarian outfit ( Foreign owners of the once massively asset rich Rover Group ) who needed TWO small cars in their otherwise Gas Guzzler Model line up or be penalised heavily by the EU constraints and guidelines. Soon after acquiring Rover Group for relatively little, they sold off the JLR assets. JLR sold to FOMOCO for more than they paid for the whole sheebang unless those figures quoted were fake news. The huge R&D costs of those two small cars BMW set against the Rover accounts to demonstrate what they called, here I use their words. "The English Patient.. "
Millions of Brits bought into that Bovine Excrement and still do to this day!
Then if that was not enough, sold off the remnants which became known as MG-Rover for a tenner so escaping the massive redundancy costs had the company been wound up then.
Mug UK Governments still see foreign ownership of so many aspects of the UK and its various assets as "Foreign Investment" .. often given massive under the table taxpayer financial inducements to set up here with access to greenfield sites denied to many "In House" British concerns. Most like Honda warned when it suited them, not the UK, they will up sticks and leave. Give credit to Honda company, well before any mention of an IN-OUT EU Referendum, they told us that, Yet cue some of the more poisonous sectors of UK Main Stream Media blaming the OUT voters for that. FAKE NEWS since denied by the honourable Honda Motor Company of Japan.
As a Nation we seem determined to fall for the three card trick time and again. Many Brits form queues still to pay over the odds for BMWs and other foreign built Automotive product. That adds to the UK impressive increases in exports. Yes exports of many worthwhile UK careers and jobs straight out of the country ... The USA is not the only place having "Rust Belts"
Still they come in their thousands daily to treat the UK Taxpayers as mugs.
It's now twenty years since I ordered and bought the last MG new, one of several over the decades. In so doing sustaining good jobs and careers for the good folks of the Midlands at Longbridge. Still have the last MG I bought new and the new Rover Metro in the family fleet bought twenty nine years ago. I can no longer have the pleasure of doing that ever again. I can of course buy a nice new MG tomorrow like several folks down my street have done. All tell me they are delighted with their new MGs when I ask them. Nothing wrong with that except, those nice new MGs should have been built and manufactured by the folks of the UK's Midlands as was once the case many years ago!
Only in the UK .. :sigh:
If having read so far, you get the impression I have strong feelings about so many of the wrong decisions those we entrust to this Nation's well being have failed us by, you'd be quite correct. Worse still, it's ongoing. I am far from alone in having these strong views and those who feel the same way or rapidly increasing in number.
Many here could learn from those folks across the other side of the Atlantic. Make a start with the following Mission Statement.
UK FIRST.
Another honest, unbiased review Jonny. I like the finer details you get into, the level of finish within the boot area. No one else would pick up on these things. Top man!
Shame Kia aren't still doing what they were doing 4-5 years ago. Still making great cars but the prices now are just as astronomical as everyone else.
MG4 & Dacia look to be on a roll, good luck to em.
Really good review, great to see cars like this that Hyundai used to offer. 5 years on from our Ioniq, this offers twice the range, faster acceleration and twice the charging speed for the same money. What's not to like?
Think i might be trading in my IoniQ 38kwh for this!
@@alanbrad3727 absolutely!
@@alanbrad3727 Probably not quite as fuel efficient as the Iconiq 28 kWh, but still pretty good.
@@robertsmart7484 Definitely not! But Battery size & charge speed make up for that.
What's not to like? It's fucking chinese !!!!!!!!!!
one of the best car reviews ever..this was a journey. From nanny's clock to brand snobbery to eating your own words..this was great.
As many in the comments here had my ZS EV for a year now. Can't fault it. Did 13500 miles on £216 of electric according to my charger app. It's brilliant. Highly recommend any doubters to try one.
Really, Wow thats some cheap motoring, What are the other costs involved??
@@WilliamStevens007 The cost of buying still far outweighs the savings made on fuel.
@@phuketexplorer that's the rub with these. To 'upgrade' I'd probably have to spend over 15 grand after part-ex. Unless changing anyway, saves money to actually stick with the current petrol/diesel car.
That's under 2p per mile! I wish I could find electricity that cheap.
@@phuketexplorer not if you take into account the reduction in maintenance costs and the much greater resale value.
We've had a MG5 for 18 months, it's fantastic. Love the look of the MG4!
Go live in china then !!!
Absolutely considering an MG. As a traditional country dweller, I think the EV5 is the one I'd have.
Absolutely not a badge snob, but will always buy the vehicle that suits what I need.
More over, why the hell hasn't Jonny been put on the telly box with a motoring show??? His presentation style is absolutely on point, a joy to watch and listen to.
Been there, done the TV Nick. One day I might do it again...
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc...
Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies )
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The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice.
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China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you.
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Fifth Gear? You can probably watch reruns on Dave. I have been following Jonny’s career ever since he started on Max Power all those years ago!
Mainstream tv is finished. RUclips etc best thing that has happened in year's and I am nearly 60.
@@beachamgroup2482 you could very well be right.
24:26 I picked up a new style MG5 here in France this week…. It’s so good! No new car glitches, good panel fit, no rattles etc. The touch screen navigation and entertainment screen is very responsive. I made a point of not reading the user manual - everything is just evident - no surprises. And it goes well - the long range luxury version has all the toys and is certainly fast enough. Just back from the DIY store with 2.4m lengths of wood no problem!
You mean the 2022 MG5 already on the market?
@@Lokkee929 Yes
@@Lokkee929 it went on sale in Europe earlier than it was coming to the UK
Hi Jonny, thanks for the presentation. I bought an ex demo MG5 Exclusive last October - my previous vehicle was a 2004 Range Rover with LPG conversion - lovely vehicle but began costing lots of money at each successive MOT. The MG5 has, so far proved to be faultless - the air conditioning is the best that I've experienced in any vehicle that I've owned in the past. Its completely unobtrusive in operation. I generally drive in 'economy' mode and max 'regen' mode. Recently, in the hot weather. it was returning 4.6 miles per kwh - I pay 21p per kWh on economy 7 so circa 4.7 pence per mile. The 12 month service cost £70 and that included cleaning inside and out and took about an hour. Have been thoroughly impressed with the car.
Go live in china then !!!
I see nothing wrong with this MG. It's a fuss free electric car at a good entry price. The styling is okay but miles better than the I.d3.
This car is like a New Balance shoe. Decent fit, will completely kill your sexlife.
The biggest problem is that if you buy it you are supporting the Chinese government... remember? The people who gave you the pandemic, the people who do social engineering like no other....the people who are helping to destroy your children's way of life....that price seem so reasonable now?
@@golfbulldog I suggest you take a look at every device, appliance, piece of equipment, clothing, etc. you own and get back to us as to the country of manufacture.
@@CastleKnight7 so the question really ought to be, how many have I purchased from China since the virus came out?
Even in base spec a budget car with no serious downsides. The performance model coming out next year could be the genuine young person's EV hot hatch.
At last a great looking car from MG! Ultra competitive against its rivals and has all the ‘toys’ you would ever need when driving from A to B. It’s a no bargainer Jonny!
True. The mg5 is ugly AF
@@vortexohm5830 The new face-lifted version looks a lot better.
I have a Polestar, and I like the centre console. But I'm old, so it doesn't count. And this car here, is really significant and exciting. It's a huge step up in value for EV's. It's the first time an EV with "full" functionality has come out with a price hugely undercutting its obvious competition. The warranty is incredible. The 64 kWh is interesting. Are theses all the same across the manufacturers? Is it all CATL? I have a 69 kWh Polestar, which first came out with 64 kWh. And there are all the Korean 64 kWh too.
Finally an EV with practical motorway range (able to go for almost 3h at 70mph after a quick rest stop) at a decent price. And it's not a SUV!!! Hurray!
It's great the MG4 has V2L at this price because it will force pretty much all manufacturers into adding it. And I think that will make EVs in general just that bit more attractive compared with ICE vehicles especially for campers and people in areas that have frequent power cuts.
I wonder what will happen with battery warranties for people who start using their vehicles every day as a home battery. Would reduce the lifespan of the battery but the warranties are based on mileage and time not number of charges/discharges.
V2L just powers individual devices, via a 3-pin plug
V2H is what you need to feed power from the car battery into a house, via a special charger.
mg4 51kwh model use LFP battery , that has longer lifespan then the mg4 64kwh model with Ternary lithium battery. lfp battery normaly had 2000 time charging cycle. so if you worry about it you can choose 51kwh model. battery warranties will ensure the degeneration of battery within 20% . if warranties out of date you can still use the rest 80%.
@@xiaoyang9758 Interesting thanks. I did wonder about whether it was LFP or not as I was watching the video. Car reviewers tend not to mention it and I think it's a pretty important consideration.
@@nitelite78 lot of people are watting mg4 here in china ,in china mg4 call MG MULAN. there already over 40000 per-order. and the price in china are not release yet. 😂😂
I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure there’s more to battery degradation than just charge discharge cycles. Those are just a quick ball park spec to give a rough idea of battery lifespan. The rate you charge and discharge the battery’s makes a huge difference. If you have a smart metre at home, you’ll probably see that most of the time your home is drawing 100s of watts, rather than a few kilowatt (a few thousand watts) which is what an EV consumes whilst cruising and even more when accelerating. Drawing power at a lower wattage general results in less heat. Roughly speaking, less heat = less degradation, so I can’t see people using there EV as a home battery make much difference to the lifespan of the pack. Especially considering you’d have to be trying really hard to drain the entire pack in a day just from your home.
Like I say, I’m not an expert. Just a nerd whose been following EVs since 2014 😊
Edit: Just adding to my initial comment. For context on how much energy you use in a home,p vs an EV uses driving. Our Hyundai Kona takes about 12 hours to charge from empty to full drawing 7 kW most of the way. Again, roughly speaking (you need to account for losses in electricity transmission etc) that means to drain the entire 64 kWh battery in the Kona in a day, you’d need to sustain a 7 kW draw for around 9 hours. You are very unlikely to draw anything near that for half and hour, let alone 9.
Absolutely fantastic video again Jonny, watched it with my Dad who is seriously considering an MG4 to replace the horrible diesel evoque he’s got just now. I’ve got an MG3 and I just absolutely love it.
I love that this isn’t a pretentious softroader, it’s a comfortable, well equipped, spacious and affordable family car with a superb range and it’s actually quite enjoyable to drive.
Cheers again legend Jonny
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Absolutely would drive an MG. Looks good and most importantly great value. Hopefully other manufacturers who've been pushing prices up for EVs will have to respond. Like you I think a new MG5 estate with sharper looks will be just the ticket. Like an e-Niro, only more car-ish
Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc...
Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies )
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The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice.
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China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you.
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You do know it's just a random metal box with a badge stuck on it that people have heard of..?!
It has NOTHING to do with real MGs.....!
That doesn't mean it can't be a great car, of course.......!!
@@andymccabe6712 Real MGS were garbage like all British cars.. At least these will be reliable and won't rust immediately.
@@andymccabe6712 yes thanks
The facelifted MG5 is coming soon. They already have it on the continent.
This is one of the best reviews of an ev or even a new car in general. I am going to have to seriously rethink what the brand actually means to me because I think sometimes we are nearly brainwashed into thinking certain brands mean More than they actually do mean
Keith, look at the better known customer satisfaction surveys to see what brainwashing ( or clever marketing) does. The so-called "prestige" brands are nowhere near the top, and the lesser perceived brands (such as Dacia and Skoda) are often way higher up the scale than your head suggests they ought to be......
Have had the ZS EV for nearly a year and everyone in the family uses it whenever they get the chance, an all-around favorite. Great car.
The first good value family hatch EV I've seen - I see the BYD Atto 3 as it's natural competitor if and when that arrives. At that price/warranty it's hard to say anything against it. Plus they say for each 5k you drop in price, you double the number of prospective buyers. This should do well, the only real drawback is production numbers. How many rhd MG4s can they import, not nearly enough I imagine. Good review, Jonny.
I read somewhere that MG UK have secured around 2000 models for delivery before the end of 2022. 👍
Amazing EV imo. And at a reasonable price! Really considering getting the top spec model!
I tested an MG5 and thoroughly liked it. The MG4 may very well be my next car. Thanks for the great review!
As Jonny says, MG feels like a value brand to me. But that's a hell of a discount compared to its competitors. Kudos to Jonny for being frank about his own prejudices, I think I'm with him on this one. With a challenging financial mess ahead for the next couple of years, I think more people will forego the brand snobbery, especially as those brands often fail to earn our custom. Is MG the new Skoda or Kia? 🤔
We have had an ID.3 First edition for 1,5 years now and are so satisfied that we want to replace our remaining VW Golf VI GTD. After watching this video I have placed an order for the 64kWh Luxury edition of the MG4. I am so excited, especially for the V2L functionality!
I think I now know what our next car will be. Even the charge point is in the right place for when reversed up the drive. Brilliant!
Absolutely I'd drive that. But I'll stick with my 13 year old diesel Volvo that does 65mpg until it goes to the big scrapheap in the sky.
Yeah, as long as there's decent mpg, the most environmentally friendly car is the one you already have, so I'll be doing the same (although my Ford's mpg is definitely rather less than 65!), but it's good to see what the future holds in store! I look forward to seeing this car on the roads, and eventually the 2nd hand market, and what it will hopefully do to the competition
@@EcceJack that’s not strictly true though. You can burn through enough fuel to match the CO2 of building a new car in 10,000 to 30,000 miles so it depends on how much you drive. Engineering Explained has run the numbers and made a good video on it.
I am in the same boat with my Fiat Stilo JTD.
If you want the ultimate smug face then convert your current ICE car to an EV.
@@EcceJack "most environmentally friendly car is the one you already" Not relevant anymore. The number of cars being manufactured has collapsed. You have no real way to effect the number of cars being scrapped and replaced. It is entirely up to the supply of cars available. Just because a singular person keeps their old car has negligible effect to all registered cars on the road. The less cars that are being manufactured, the longer old cars are kept.
Well done review of this MG, I just saw the Fully Charged review of the same car and this was miles better!
I see a lot of MG evs about where I live, near the old Longbridge plant, and although a new ev is way out of my price bracket, this car looks good enough to tempt the badge snobs away from their go to marques. A very fair and unbiased review. Well done sir.
I like it! I wish they were available in the US. Sounds like a great set of features and excellent range. As a multiple electric car owner, I agree with your assessment about the range here being ideal.
Yeah you can thank Trump for that that no Chinese car ever will come to the US
@@michalandrejmolnar3715 Except for Polestar 1 probably? But other polestars would be built in North Carolina afterwards... Good for US jobs anyways I guess
As an owner of MG5 which is currently on 12k miles and I’ve owned a year to the date..
It’s still solid with no creaks or noises.. also to mention at its service last week the battery degradation was still at 100% which is great.
Also to mention MG parent brand SAIC manufacture VW ID’s for Volkswagen for the Chinese market so they can’t be that bad!
That must be why some copying has been going on. 😜
well they made it right and at the right price point. the idea from all China brands is that they want you to not be brand concious and save your money for some other things in life. It is a lifestyle not a brand.
I currently drive a 40kw Leaf and really like it but would absolutely drive the MG4. I would also choose it over an ID3. The Leaf was not compared in this video, not a surprise because first impressions, its better in almost every way, and for less money.
Good review. Plenty of information. Personally, I'd never pay more for a badge. Reliability and build quality yes, but I'd always go for the value option. The likes of VW should be getting very nervous.
I’ll be waiting for the performance model. I owned one of the last MGZS 2.5 V6 for 8 years and clocked 100k miles with no problems. A lovely car and was proud driving the MG. I wish I still had it.
I can actually see myself driving this, quite a fan of the ID3 and was at the time the only EV I would have considered but the MG4 looks so much better, the interior is quite familiar to my C4 Cactus very minimalist, I think MG are going to be the king's of EV very soon, another great review Mr Smith.
I love the 17" wheels - VW needs to take a hint on this. Slightly smaller wheels let you go farther on a charge, all else being equal. RWD is awesome! If it had a volume knob and a slightly shallower "plinth" for the shift knob - it was pretty close to your left knee. Having the space for your leg is a god-send for us taller folks - I am 6'-4"/~173cm and center consoles are the bane of too many cars.
You are right, tall people don't want big consoles - let's celebrate the flat floor car chassis with more open cabin design.
6’-4”/173?
Did you mean 193?
@@Brinta3 Yes, I didn't convert correctly. Thanks!
Initial reaction, I’d pick this over an ID.3, Zoe, e corsa, e208 etc in a heartbeat. Why spend the extra when you don’t have to? Brand loyalty = Consumer stupidity IMO.
I think this could be the most important car to launch in Europe this year. Will wait for some more reviews to say for sure though. I’m particularly looking forward to Bjorn Nyland putting it through its paces 😊
Often thought of Kia and Hyundai when I read of the early sneery reviews of MGs. People laughed at the Kia Pride and Hyundai Pony years ago. Now look at those two. MG seems to have done this "brand growing" in an nth of the time.
Hi Jonny. Just about to order a white SE standard range so your excellent review helped a lot. One thing that reviewers are missing though is the battery chemistry for the standard range (LFP) and long range (NMC). As most EV users actually do relatively short journeys, the standard range LFP that can happily charge from 0% to 100% all day long would generally be sufficient for every day use. Even using fake WLTP figures, 100% of 218 miles is 218 !!. However where the long range NMC battery should only be charged to 80% on a routine basis, you end up with a similar "actual" WLTP figure of 224 miles (281 X 80% = 224 miles).Charging an NMC battery to 100% on a regular basis apparently damages the cells. Also the LFP battery has a far greater charge cycle count than the NMC battery. When I fist test drove the MG4 I too thought that a long range SE was the sweet spot but now i'm not so sure. Unless you are regularly going to do road trip level miles, I can't see any reason why the standard range SE would't be the sweet spot for most peoples daily needs. The fake WLTP situation has just replaced the fake MPG figures for ICE cars and i think manufactures dealers and indeed reviewers are missing the opportunity to finally inject some true clarity into the actual mileage that EVs will do and in fact what EV drivers are doing on a daily basis. Unless that is i'm completely missing something. Anyhooo, thanks for a great informative video.
I do tend to agree with you. I’ve had an MG5 for two years and it was a wonderful car. I’ve traded in for an MG4 SE standard range. It’s a lovely vehicle. Totally different from the MG5. However, so far my miles per KWH in the cold weather have been a bit disappointing at 2.8. I’m sure this will improve massively as temperatures rise. For most people, the standard range car is more than enough. It is very rare that I do a trip of 200 miles. When I have done, rapid charging hasn’t been a problem using reliable chargers like Instavolt. I’m not sure that for most people, it’s worth paying £3.5K more for a long range battery. I may be wrong, but, not for me.
Really interesting. I might have opted for the long range battery had I not known this, but it sounds like the NMC would be the way to go for my kind of mileage.
I enjoyed your unbiased appraisal of the MG4 Johny, and have to say that I was quite impressed which is very strange because I am not an EV fan! I know we responsible citizens should all be doing our bit for the environment, but from where I stand there are still too many obstacles and potential problems with buying and owning an EV! The biggest concern that most have, as I have learnt from friends is, 'charging', and how long it can take if a supercharger is not available! No matter, the MG4 is very nice and may have swayed me if it had been available in early 2022 when I traded in my old Jag for a newer one. Keep up the good work.
Currently driving a Toyota Hybrid which is great but, I would seriously consider this if moving over to full electric….interested in the seating position as I prefer at my age a higher position for ease of getting in and out…..GREAT REVIEW 👍
I had a 2014 MG3 for 2 years and it definitely felt cheap but no more cheap than the likes of a Corsa for example. Definitely great "bang for your buck". My only complaint was that it needed a new clutch at 40k miles which seemed premature to me... People like to slate them still because "they're not a real MG" and they're made in china but the "real" MGs had their faults and Volvo are chinese these days so I really don't see the issue. Great review
Tell me if put
A. a small petro engine that could charge EV instead of plugging in would that not be better?
B. Put a row or several rows of turbines on the roof that turn from the wind that would charge the car? Possibly magnetically accellerated faster than the wind but wind gets them moving
@@ca6360 good questions. I'll answer you if you tell me how old you are
Yeah I had a 2017mg3 for about 2 years, was going to need a new clutch too, but everything else was spot on.
I swapped it to a micra even though it was a better quality car and better mpg while being faster having a turbo...I missed the mg3 compared too. It was a bargain as well!
I really do think it is the..'its Chinese'
So I'm gonna hate it with every review being biased. I even test drove an mg6 and loved that too, handled well while being as comfy as my rover 75
Great content as usual. I’m so apprehensive about the EV jump but your essential videos will always guide the way.
Another great review!
I think this is a game changer, proving just how overpriced the VWs and Cupras are, even Kia
I think people want a range of 300 miles for a reasonable price
I don't know if I want one, but I'm interested in what the rest of the industry will do in response.
At least there are some interestig EVs coming out, for a reasonable price without a load of silly gimmicks
In my opinion, this is the first convincing EV from any manufacturer. Well done MG and nice review Johnny as always.
Nothing beats a Tesla ! comes with farting noises !
Tesla Model 3: £51,090. Tesla Model 3 Long Range: £60,090. Tesla Model 3 Performance: £62,590.Aug 16, 2022
Nice, I remember when Japanese cars were looked down on; Chinese cars are only getting better, especially EV.
Great review, this is exactly the car I have been waiting for. I love the Ioniq5 but it’s too expensive. I have a Golf and that form factor is so practical, this MG does look like an great EV option.
Great video once again! As an MG enthusiast it’s great to see some great interest in the MG brand once again. This looks like a great car and I’m very much looking forward to the next MGs using this platform.
I love my MGs (ZT and TF) also owned a SAIC MG6 previously, all great cars. My son also has an MG ZT, his girlfriend has an MG3 and her dad has just bought a facelift MG3 too as he was so impressed with the value they offer. Looking forward to something sporty from them in future - even though the new cars are all way out of my price range!
If SAIC is going to accord the same respect to the MG brand as Geely has the Volvo badge, and there's every reason to think SAIC will, MG's second wind is probably going to be a long, successful one.
I would honestly have no problem buying an MG and don’t see the badge as any less than a Kia, Hyundai or Renault and I’d certainly rather this than a Peugeot or a Vauxhall.
If you’re buying a car - for the purpose of being a car, why not? Different matter if you want performance or a toy perhaps, but st that money it’s no more than an equivalent spec ICE family hatch.
Looks smart, well equipped and if it drives well enough, I see this as a decent family car/commuter if you can have a toy for the driving you actually want to do.
MG have been making silent but great moves lately and I believe this is the start of the brands revival in Europe. I'm glad to see the MG brand back, such a great marque that was squandered and as now as an EV it brand couldn't be more perfect.
I think the comparison with the early Japanese and Korean cars is valid. Ignore MG at your peril. Great review. And good pheasant and grandfather clock content... something sadly missing from the yoof reviewers 😅
If I can I always pop a pheasant and G'father clock ref into my MG reviews.
Except this is the start of subscription washing machines, or disposable washing machines
@@jd_99 probably both, but we all need washing machines.
Except early Japanese and Korean cars weren't rebranded to weaponise British nostalgia from an authoritarian country. Do. Not. Support. China.
@@CaptainHoratioPugwash I'm sure you don't buy anything made in china. Good for you.
Got one on order, beyond excited! Thanks Jonny
Air conditioning on Jonny? You OK?
As someone from the U.S., I’ll never see most of the cars you review. I really love seeing the beautiful countryside as you drive! The B roads I can’t get over. So narrow and hedges really close to the pavement. The cars are a nice touch, and your reviews of them are great!
Just ordered an MG4 Trophy after a fun test drive, to replace our 3yr old MG ZS EV. The ZS EV has been a brilliant car, and at the time it was best in class, but the MG4 is a big step up again! So, I'm really pleased with MG as a brand, good build quality (after 3 years the ZS EV shows no rattles or other aging signs), good reliability, good support from dealers - but now we can get excellent range and great styling too - and for the price, an absolute no brainer!!
I can totally see myself owning one of those, if they age well and finance options are good in a few years, this might be my first electric car
A worthy successor to the MG Magnette. Should sell extremely well..
Excellent review and a good insight.
Couple of items you missed:
- the Trophy gets a raised floor in the boot as an extra option. Why you'd want to lose the extra space is beyond me, but hey, whatever you're into!
- the Trophy also gets storage slots on the back of each front seat for rear passengers. Minor item but useful.
- tow rating of 500kg across the range: excellent!
- no roof rack: the one item that stops it from becoming a direct competitor to the Niro EV.
Lastly, and related to the last statement: the new Niro EV is €11,000 MORE than the Trophy MG4 in Ireland. Wow......
Personally, I'd love all the spec of the Trophy model, but in the long-range SE body so allow the maximum range........ Deposit is down and still time to decide
Honestly sounds like a brilliant car for the price. Vehicle to load is the key thing that most are missing & I think the big differentiator over the next few years. Get this, you don't need a £10k home battery.
On EV-database it says it's vehicle-to-load but not vehcile-to-home, so not quite replacing home batteries yet. I.e. with an adaptor you can run a three pin socket from the car's charging port but you can't plug it in to your home charger and run the whole house. But hopefully V2H will come soon.
Shop around, and you'll find that £10k home battery is probably nearer £6k
That looks a really great option. If they can make MG4s for that price range then hopefully we can have smaller, compact, lower range cars for under £20K
@markyes can you read? said smaller and shorter range. think eUp size
@markyes find something cheaper with as many features you don't need to put Dino juice in
@markyes my 'petrol' bill last month was £20 to do 2000 miles... It's not avoiding fossil fuels. It's just straight cheaper
@markyes brand new fix started this month. 2.45p per mile. Be an idiot not to be on an ev tariff with an ev.
Battery will last longer than you'll likely own the car 15 years to 80% typically. Still far cheaper than petrol at 30-40p/mile and I spend less leasing my 'shit' mg than I'd be paying on petrol on any non electric and it's a fraction the monthly cost of a tesla
@markyes Sorry I don't debate with morons!
Thanks for a great review. Most comprehensive one of the MG4 that I've seen so far. Got my MG4 SE Long Range on order, going to seem a very long wait ! :-)
How long are the wait times?
That's the first EV I've seen that I actually like the look of. I think when it has the mentioned switchable battery pack it'll clean up on the volume EV market.
It's unlikely there will be any "switchable" battery packs. There are two big issues. 1. What happens to your 8 year battery warranty if you have it "switched"? 2. After the switch, how could you be sure you didn't end up with someone else's abused battery? Battery swapping stations would be unviable to operate. They would need to be open 24/7, and be at least double manned for H & S reasons. They would need to keep dozens of different types and capacities of battery packs, fully charged, and in stock to cater for the different models of EV..... It's not happening anytime soon. Tesla dropped the concept of battery swapping in 2013, in favour of their Supercharger network, which can add 75 miles of range for every 5 minutes the car is hooked up to the charger. Increased charging infrastructure and faster charging times will render battery swapping pointless.
@@Brian-om2hh I wasn't talking about "battery swapping stations", we're talking having user swappable 'suitcase' batteries that you swap out at home, have one set charging on a wall charger in your home whilst the other set is in the car. No need for a driveway or garage or for cables trailing out into the street. You underestimate how many (city) drivers don't have these things.
Jonny Smith must be the best Motoring Journalist on RUclips. He really goes into total detail and anybody interested gets to see and hear all the answers customers normally ask for. Recently I watched another critic describing the Hyundai IONIQ 5 but at the same time comparing and running it down whilst comparing it to some BMW. Please...... I wouldnt be watching if i was (heaven help me) interested in that BMW. Before closing he actually chose the BMW ahead of the Hyundai......What a joke....
Love them or hate them, you have to admire what MG are doing at the moment.
Cars the make sense, who'd have thought of that?
Really great review. These MGs are making me really consider one for the next car. I am still concerned that I many do motorway driving and over 400 miles per week but I have a drive and home every night.
Another stellar and in-depth review which I really appreciate, you always cover what any prospective buyer would want to know and the ones we forget to ask. Totally would buy an MG, build and components look mid range in comparison to other manufactures but what swings it for me is the spec being so good for something that price especially with the future proofing.
Go live in china then !!!
Excellent review, cheers Jonny. Love your level of detail and knowledge of the actual competition, and how honest you always are.
I think this is a great car review channel. It hits a sweet-spot of what I actually want to know about a car (and that doesn't involve how quickly it goes round the Nurburgring).
The MG4 looks great, I have a 5 year old 30KWHr Nissan Leaf. It's perfect except for 2 things .... range, and the crazy Chademo charger. That mean I have 2 cars.
This and the MG5 look like cars will replace my 2 cars. I think they both accept towbars.... because I need to pull a 500kg trailer.
The best review yet of the MG4 👏👏 no faff , just honest observation, as always , top draw sir !
Yes we brits are badge snobs , but this is on the change in these cash tight times.
I too dont 'get' the ID3 , looks and feel cheep inside , and bland outside.
MG have really had an amazing rise over the last few years and the current product is great and gets better with every launch. They are also positioning themselves to grab a sizeable share of the market in coming years. It may not be the MG of old, but it’s great to see the brand doing well and leading the way in affordable EV’s for the masses. Proof that you can offer the consumer value and be successful - something most car manufacturers have forgotten in the pursuit of ever higher margins.
I've been looking at a BEV ever since I was able to join the fleet scheme at work. Sadly, the prices have all gone up since I started six months ago and even the ID.3 has gone from doable to too expensive. But the MG4 is definitely on the fringes of affordable. I've got to say, the Chinese have done a good job on this one, I like how it looks, it has useful levels of kit and it seems it'll be the ideal commuter car. I've booked a test drive, I'm keen to see just how nice it is for myself.
Great review Jonny as ever. In answer to your question in the video, i would much prefer to drive something like this vs an ID3 at the price point. If i was going down the EV route (which i will be in about 18 months), MG is a brand i'd give serious consideration to. It's great value for money by the looks of it, decent design and the interior really does it for me. As someone who has a few other cars for my weekend fun, i could well see myself in this as a daily.
Like you mention at the end, me 8 years ago would have gone for a badge that looks cool (Audi, BMW), but i'm just not convinced by those brands when it comes to EVs or quality anymore. I think i'd now prefer a top spec "lesser" badge than a rubbish spec "top" badge.
Go live in china then !!!
Thanks for not calling it "affordable" or "cheap" Jonny, You're the only one not doing that, too. Reviews which do that for £25,000+ (and more, even approaching £40,000) cars incense me.. Our last new car was less than £10,000. I've done the numbers on the lower running costs but all that does is prove once again that you need money to make or save money.
I like Robert Llewellyn because he used to be Kryten but You're my favourite reviewer of EVs.
Best review of the MG4 I have seen so far. Johnny knows his stuff.
Had my mg5 for a couple of years now. Saved thousands compared to petrol, had no problems and not noticing any drop in range. Been really good value so far.
As always, loving Jonny's honesty. I guess most people felt the same about MG originally. Brand snobbery is still a thing, but that's changing with the dynamics of the Pacific rim manufacturers. Traditional Western producers are going to have to change quickly, or they'll go to the wall.
Great video and great car! Thank you Jonny for giving us your unbiased opinion once again.
I am seriously considering getting the Citroen EC4 (maybe EC4x) mainly due to the fact that I have multiple spinal injuries and the comfort is amazing, but, this has really tweaked my interest.
Nice to hear someone praising value when it counts, MG are really trying to make electric , and environmentally friendly cars affordable for the mass market sector, even though it is still obscene compared to some peoples living’s standards in our world today.
Great video as always, and this car has piqued my interest!
One thing seems odd - the standard range model appears to have a slightly lower miles/kWh efficiency compared to the long range. I'd expect standard range to do the same or slightly better, as it's lighter. I'd be interested to know how the real world range and efficiency of the two battery sizes compare.
11:40 It’s because of the aerodynamics 👍
Good spot though.
Swapping my Peugeot e-208 GT for a Long Range SE. I prefer the looks of the Peugeot inside and out, but it appears that the MG4 betters it in every other measurable way (and for less money!) Fantastic detail in your review as ever 👏🏻
Would I like the Pug if I was younger or is it a sign of my age? Who cares, they are making nice looking cars IMO.
I might swap my Corsa-e for a MG4 next year. I'm unsure if Stellantis can beat the MG4.
That’s a loooong way from Morris Garages.
Cupra born is bigger inside than the MG or the Kia E Niro. Cupra infotainment is a bit laggy on start up but works well. The MG does look very different "taking" design ideas from other cars. If you want a large family EV the ID3 and Cupra Born beat all other cars but cost a bit more. Pity the KIA wasn't bigger inside as I like the look and KIA's are built very well. I bought a Cupra Born V2 62kwh as it suited my family needs. MG would have been in the running if I didn't need the interior leg room.
I have put a deposit on the mg4 se lr. Today but I got to wait till January 2023 till estimates delivery So I have instructed MG to give me a 2023 23 plate when I receive it in march 2023. That’s a long wait. But it gives me time to get an ev charging box attached to the garage. Good entertaining informative thoughtful programmes. Thanks
Thorough, high quality review as usual from Jonny. Superb. Surprised by this one. Exterior styling is a bit whiffy (in my opinion) but the package on offer for the price is incredible. MG will find a good few buyers in the UK on that basis I think.
Very interested to see how the MG4 compares with the Ora Cat when it comes to the UK. Having had a close up look at the Cat, which is similarly priced, a new Chinese brand for me has more appeal that a re-invented old British brand.
I’ve driven the ZS & thought it was pretty good but this one looks like a very worthy contender indeed. One thing I do not like is those leads popping up through looking like a poor diy charging option. Come on MG wireless chargers are a must nowadays.
I'd happily have the top spec of this instead of a base model i.d3 thanks Johnny. Yeah I am cheap like that. I think we are paying way too much for a badge sometimes. Currently driving a good ol' Kia e Niro FE. 😊
I agree with all the comments here, what an excellent, well thought through and well executed review. Not only did I enjoy it, but Jonny, you tapped into many of my feelings about the new SAIC incarnation of MG. The biggest point is that you gave it a fair chance, judged it purely on what it is and does and didn't just pigeon hole it and spend the rest of the review trying to find fault or abusing it.
I'm absolutely intrigued by these cars and am coming around to the idea that when our old 53 plate CR-V finally gives up (or I give up maintaining it) that a ZSEV might be an option, or better still, downsize to one of these. I'm really impressed and now I feel I should be asking for a test drive myself.
That really is a very compelling and impressive package. Makes the VW I.D range look decidedly bland and overpriced.