I photographed Men's LAX and a Philadelphia Union Soccer game after filming this video....and I'm even more sold on it's AF capabilities. This $1,500 R8 has superior AF capabilities than the Nikon Z9. It just works, without a fight. No, Nikon shooters wont like these facts. They will tell me I don't know how to set the Z9 up, and that it's human error, it's not. I know what I'm doing, and so do the Pro Z9 shooters I speak with at events. Right out of the box, it just works.
Hey Jared! I own a Z9 and I'll be truly honest! you are right, Now, I don't have hands on the R8 just yet but from only the "Tracking Standpoint" what I saw in this video is mindblowing! Nikon Z9 is nowhere close to it.. Let me be clear with it... This is only regarding the subject detection and tracking capabilities. Hopefully Nikon fixes it. The af is good, but I often need to switch to dynamic on it and go "Dslr Style" quiet often
I’m so happy for everyone that will get this camera. The more and more innovation and competition that occurs between companies hopefully more and more people will continue photography and professional cameras.
I’m a hobbyist photographer who travels often enough. I sold my Nikon gear 5 years ago and want to get back into it. I’ve been researching on whether to go Canon or Sony. I’m leaning to Canon because I like the ergonomics and ease of use. I don’t plan to go professional and I don’t have a strong negative opinion on the RF-EF adapters. Body budget is around $1300 so that puts me around the R8 or A7III. There’s a lot of Canon/Sony switchers on RUclips but it feels like an iPhone vs Android for me. I’m looking to only get 4 lenses on either system: 50mm 85mm 70-200mm 24-70mm Optional 18-35mm. This video just tipped me over to Canon
I have the M6 mark ii and I’ve been waiting to go full frame. This is the perfect camera for me, an upgrade in every way and no breaking the bank, and all my old batteries are compatible. What a stellar piece of kit for $1500
Good thing you still have $3500 left over from the savings of not getting a Nikon z9. Not like the z9 comes with free lenses. Correction. $4,000 to spend on glass.
I own the R6 Mark II and the RP (along with a dozen older Canon DSLRs) and I'm pretty sure I'll get rid of the RP and pick up this R8 as the backup/second camera. It only makes sense since the R6 Mark II and the R8 has the same sensor. The color science will match perfectly in the editing phase.
The biggest thing is the tracking coming diagonally towards the camera, so many cameras even with great eye AF struggle with this and to think this is adapted glass with was it a 600f/4 mkii? That is about 10+ years old now. Great results. For less than £2k damn.
Since R6-R5 was released, everything in canon (except the lack of third party lenses) is great! I still working with R6 bodies and I think that they will be in the bag until they die/R6 mk3 is released.
@@cuncapt Yes, without any doubt. You will regret nothing. 6D mk2 was my last reflex back in 2018 before I jump to the R and I would never go back again.
If you are doing something that requires it, like fast sports, journalism. For majority of users, no point, except to be amazed by the AF specs. Nobody talks about battery life that is beyond bad, with 270-350 per charge (compare that to 1300-1500 on 90D).
@@maboleth if you take pictures of your kids or go to their sports day or trying to catch a photo of your favorite pet in motion etc. you will notice a difference , and that's just the befinninng Good AF is fundamental. Battery life is fine unless you are a pro taking over 300 shots at one go and then all u have to do is carry extra batteries .... That's a non issue
If I wasn't already invested in the Sony echosystem, I might have considered this for my bird photography. The price is pretty hard to beat with that kind of AF
@@zegzbrutal The R7 is a better APS-C bodyfor birding if you can swing it, but I'm definitely intrigued by the idea of the R50 + RF 100-400 as a backup/secondary setup for birding. e.g as a handheld option if the main camera is on a tripod/gimbal. Hoping to see some real-world experience with it soon.
@@TheRealJonathanArdila I don't see any problem using Canon unless you are desperate for cheap 16-28/28-75 f2.8 zooms. That which in practical use. RF24-105L, RF16 and RF24 work as well as those zooms. If adapt EF, the 24-70L&16-35L f4 IS USM can take on those e mount zooms. Canon lens IS is stronger than Sony IBIS IRL. And RF line up is the most affordable and portable for telephotos.
Good to see the R8 holds its own. I had some concerns when it first was announced. For the extra 1000.00 I like all the options that come with the R6MII personally and glad I chose that one for my first FF camera. Did you use the auto in the Case settings and what other AF options did you possibly change to dial it in a bit more? Great AF review.
FYI on lax sticks. That's the shutter. Lax sticks don't ever flex like that on a shot. I still use mechanical shutter on my R6 when shooting lax for that reason. The biggest challenge I've had with the eye AF autofocus has been it's ability to discern which player I want when taking high traffic shots. I've stayed using the traditional spot focus so I can be specific in telling the camera which person to start with. I look forward to trying the improved capabilities this spring season
I have my R6 set-up to start eye AF at the location the spot/central point AF is set to, and I have a 2nd back focus button for eye AF with servo AF, so then I just point my camera to the person I want to focus on, and start continuous eye AF. It's mostly focus and recomposing, I'm using the central AF point to tell the camera who I want to focus on. Jared did that on this video as well. While this is not perfect, it does help, most of the time, when there are multiple subjects in the frame.
Currently have a beater 5DII with 50 STM, 24-105 L, and 200 f/2.8 L. I'd love to keep my lenses and upgrade the body. I was going to maybe replace with something else that's not too much more than what I would get for the 5DII, but this R8 looks so good, I think it would be worth living with the beater until I can get this. Wow.
@@lewcehjitl3282 it depends what wildlife you shoot and what region you're in. Where I am everyone wishes their rf 100-500 was as long as the sony 200-600 lol
alright, looks like the money i spent on the nikon z9 wasn't worth it comparing to this $1500 camera only in terms of tracking... the tracking in this video for the canon r8 is absolutely incredible!!!
I sold my Z7II at a big loss after I tried the R7 and A74. I'm holding out for a 30mp stacked sensor though. Canon's RF lenses are quite expensive, and I'm done adapting. Tamron offers Sony users some decent f2.8 glass which is a great value, light, and compact.
@@skyrunr You gotta sell a kidney or two, to be able to afford RF lenses unfortunately. Switched to Sony and never looked back. First lens I owned was the tamron 28-75 2.8 and I took that thing everywhere. Recently got the 70-180 and been shooting weddings with just these two lenses. Probably going to invest in some primes next. Cant beat Sony when it comes to great lenses at affordable prices.
@@b47d16 I paired the 70-180 with the 20-40f2.8, a Samyang 45f1.8, and the kit lens (used.) For now I'm using an A7C, a bit less dynamic range than the Z's, but I'm making it work. Not to mention how good the battery life is! Hoping the A7CII has a joystick and 30mp. If Sony would just work on making them more comfortable in hand!
I photograph events such as weddings. I bought a new R6II. Should I buy a new R8 for a backup camera or keep my old R6I...? {If I sell the R6I, I can buy a new R8 with this money} Thank you very much for all the reviews you do!
Good info, and appreciated. I have been wondering if the lesser memory in the R8 compared to the R6mkII had an appreciable effect on AF speed and accuracy. It sounds like it doesn’t. Frankly, the buffering limitations are ones I can live with, as they fit into my shooting style anyhow. This video helps to confirm what I already knew: my RP’s days are numbered, and the R8 will be taking its place as quickly as I can afford one. Thanks!
I have a 10 year old Canon T5i Rebel in excellent condition that still serves me well. However it's definitely lagging behind in the video department (1080p 30 h.264) and the AF and low light performance is mediocre by today's standards. I guess it's finally time to upgrade, the R8 looks like a worthy upgrade for the price. I guess I'll keep and demote my T5i to B-cam status, its still in excellent condition and works perfectly so might as well keep it.
Wow!!! 😍I was waiting for Canon to come up with something like this. I couldn't move to Sony as I just find their colors a bit off and the images are also a bit more difficult to edit in LR. I am not sure if I missed it in your video. But can you share info regarding the weather sealing? Thank you!!
A perfect companion to this camera would be a 50mm F/1.4 IS lens. Costing 1099 USD and weighing around 900g (2 lbs). I would pair it with a 24-105mm f/4 and travel with only these lenses.
Jared I'm impressed with the R8 also impressed that you said "warp balls" with a straight face and made no jokes, become wiser you are 🤗 btw great AF review 👍😎
Great photos and review! I appreciate the shirt. 🇨🇦 As a primarily digital photographer since 2001, I’m pretty damn happy that my entire catalogue is RAW. Way more flexibility at the time of capture and as technology improves.
Canon always make great cameras… great colours, god speed AF, fast readout e shutter damnnnn… thank God unlike youtubers taking about video capabilities of a camera, so boring.. camera is to take pic, cinema line to shoot video professionally
As a Nikon dslr shooter, when I decide to switch to mirrorless it will likely be Canon. Too many ‘meh’ reviews of the Nikon Z cameras regarding auto focus. Imho Nikon needs to get on their horse and either fix the AF issues with the current crop of Z cameras or introduce new ones that match the competition.
Nikon has embarrassingly bad af. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish I never bought a z7ii, thought they would improve the af but they have done bugger all !
They should be able to, the z9 has solid af and all around better than dslr. However, canon and Sony are still ahead. Nikon is however continuing to update and improve their autofocus on the z9 expend 7 chip which when it is put in other bodies should be pretty much perfected with all the random glitches gone.
Every time he reviews a Canon or a Sony its the best thing since sliced bread. 3 months later everybody talks about all the flaws they find. You just can’t believe this guy on anything he reviews.
Great review for how you were using the R8, but please also review the camera shooting birds in flight and other wildlife. You've made it clear that's not what you enjoy shooting, but a number of your viewers do, and your type of unbiased viewpoint is why they subscribe. Showing how the camera performs using the RF 600-800, a more common kit addition to a $1500. body, would also be appreciated. The majority won't have our RF L's probably ever.
I'm waiting for Canon to figure out where they want the rear dial and power button to be. Not to mention some mid-range RF zoom lenses. Especially after they increased the price of the 70-400F4 by $500 since I tried one with the Canon R several years ago.
Thank you for this video Jared! We just picked this camera up for video, but the stills aspect is insane along with the face tracking, what a superb camera at the price point.‼️🙌🏾🤩
Jared great video, I noticed you're switching between an expanded mode and Face / Eye + tracking, why do you do that, why not single spot etc? I am still learning the r5 and the focus modes, taking it out to shoots every day. I used to shoot with canon with a 5Dmk2, mk3 and then I switched to a D850. I mostly do product shoots.
I'm going to get this as my second camera to my r5. Perfect for video and BTS and lineups Currently only £939 brand new. Thanks Jared. You're my first reviewer for camera real world usage :))
Unrelated to the camera review, but I went to see the Globetrotters a couple weeks ago and I enjoyed the show. The "Dazzle" guy is basically doing like a circus-level juggling performance, and they had a good mixture of their classic old jokes and some new gags too.
Hey Jared, nice video! i do a lot of cycling photography and im turning into a profesional, do you recommend this camera as a second body? row now i have the R6 and work perfect for me but i need a backup body.
Impressive. Looks better at tracking than my R5 and Z9 (they both still get the shots). Good price too, but too bad it’s half RP. Makes it a no go for me.
Great video and awesome action shots I’m thinking about getting a canon camera for wildlife, sunset, sporting events and landscape if money not a problem what do you think is a better all around camera the new R8 or the R6 Mark ll
Great video! Watching the new Harlem Globstrotters brought back memories of the original ones (I think these were original) in Curry Neal and Meadowlark Lemon.
I'm still waiting for the review of the R6 Mark II (not just pReviews). It's easily the best camera in its class (followed by the A7IV and then the S5 II) but almost nobody covers this outside of its initial release (even Pete Mckinnon only did a preview and nothing else and Irene Rudnyk, the second biggest Canon ambassador, hasn't done any review).
U should do the best camera for like low light photography like for dark setting venues for concerts, clubs, raves would be cool to see which camera handles the quick changes of colors as well as how much grain each camera make produces like the RP, R3, R6 mk2
It is truely amazing that the only that you appear to focus on is autofocus, that's it. Every camera..... "How sticky is the autofocus?"........ "How quickly does the AF acquire?" you seem to avoid the very obvious questions: How eye-bleedingly expensive is RF glass? I mean why would you use an adapted lens for the lacrosse? Why not use the $13000 RF version? Yep $13k! And to be honest, you could put the EF 600 in front of a box brownie and you'd get great shots. You used possibly one of the best telephotos in the world, not the usual lenses that most of us have. How about talking about the very few lenses that are available on the RF mount? How there is not competition on the RF mount, so Canon will keep rinsing it's customers. We could talk about the tiny buffer that the R8 has (much like the R7), your experience of it does match others. So when you are shoot continuous RAW, how quickly does that fill? How long does it take to clear? So many unanswered questions......................................................Why would anyone buy a camera and allow the manufacturer to decide what glass you can use? It's a licence to rinse. At the end of the day the R8 is the poor man's R6 Mk2. Poor weather sealing and average build quality. Slower reading sensor, so expect plenty of rolling shutter (might not see much in basketball but baseball?), one card slot and no IBIS (great if you are a pro but for the average photographer....). It's got it's place but you still need RF glass. If you are happy with Canon dictating what you do, that's fine, after all, you are only a paying customer.
I'm just an amateur photographer with the knowledge to get some decent shots with the equipment I currently have (a crop sensor Canon DSLR). Being as I don't want to use my hobby as any kind of a business, I've been waiting for a reasonable Canon camera to come into my life, and I think this is it. I'd rather get the R8 and invest in some slightly better glass then to get the R6 MkII and suffer with some middling lenses. I dabble in all sorts of photography; a student of many, master of none. But the all around capability of this camera, whether it be landscapes, portraits, air shows, sports, astrophotography... I think this body will be able to handle them all. I'm truly excited. Now to drum up the $1500. :) Thanks for the info, 'Fro.
Jared, help me out! I’m looking to get a nicer camera and get more into photography. I’m looking at the Canon R8 or Sony a6700. I’ve had a Canon DSLR and the a6000 in the past and liked them both. I currently use a Canon SX40hs to shoot my daughter’s dance team at sporting events. I like it because of the nice zoom from the bleachers. The pictures aren’t always the greatest, especially in low light. Besides the dance team, I plan to shoot some nature photos. What would you recommend? Thanks!!
Thank you very much for this video. I watched it several times in the past few weeks, and this was what led me to my decision to buy this camera. And (ta-daa): Tomorrow, I can pick it up at my preferred shop. Greez from Switzerland
Jared, you were shooting at 1/2500sec on some shots. Why wouldn't a mechanical shutter give you a "rolling shutter" effect? Remember that at high speeds you are shooting through a moving slit. Logically the moving subject is in a different place as that slit moves across the sensor. Somebody explain to me why a mechanical shutter doesn't give rolling shutter effect, on moving subjects, at high shutter speeds.
Would love to see a review on this camera's video capabilities, which I'm sure you will do (even if it's just small part of the overall review for the camera) this is more or less just me being impatient to see it lol
Great video as usual. I have the Canon R6 Mark II and Canon 90D. I'm looking to replace the 90D and get a 2nd Mirrorless Camera, but I don't want to spend a ton of money. I was thinking about the R, R7, or maybe this R8. Push come to shove. Maybe I can grab a pre-owned R6. Any thoughts?
I compared the R6 (not II) to the R8 I own in the store and the R6 just focuses faster, and more definitively. There is no guessing in the R6. I've played around with all sorts of settings and cannot get it to match. Also, there are more useful controls in the R6 menu than the R8. And the viewfinder is better. The R6 is a nice step up from the R8... I read a lot of your reviews (and others) and it makes it seem like the R8 is just as good as higher end models when you compare them. In the real world, using the latest copies on the market, there is a noticeable difference to me. I just got an RF100 2.8L and it's ok, but it misses focus a lot. I'll keep messing with settings (I've watched yours and others' videos on all the settings.)
The R3 and gripped R6/R5 both have portrait grips to make shooting in portrait orientation easier and more comfortable...how was it for you shooting the R8 with those adapted tele lenses with your hand turned? Couldn't be comfortable I imagine...
I would like to know how it goes with the video side! I was about to by a R7, but... I'd like to know how the R8 does with videos! Thanks! Great tuto dude! 😊
I have the canon 5d mark iv and am considering selling my camera and L lens to purchase the r8 and some glass. Think that’s a good switch? I want to go mirrorless AND I also want something that I can travel with and shoot content. I primarily use my camera for video.
Thanks Jared, really helpful. That auto focus tracking is amazing! Super fast and accurate. Apologies if I missed it but did you use the new ‘false shutter sound on the electronic shutter mode?’ And if so, is it any good? Hopefully, not too loud?
@@fromquake Yes I love it, you set the volume as you need, you are able to tell when shoot. But the shutter is so fast even on the slowest setting, its hard to take just one shot.
R7 owner here. How do you think the R8 compares to it? Looking to sell my R and perhaps look into this, or just a second R7 body. Haven't had much time with my R7 yet.
ill say this again . Nikon should not compete for af speed at this time. I think Nikon has to concentrate on Af Precision and accuracy. The Z9 is a fast camera, no doubt but not at the expense of af accuracy. When the Z8 comes out let it be able to nail images in focus and sharp. Let it be the camera that will shoot portraits and models and nail the af of the eye and not the lashes. Let the z8 speak for itself. The Z9 firmware can continuously be tweaked to keep up with the jonses. After the Z8 this is Where Nikon has to separate itself from EVERYONE by releasing the Z90/ Z900 APSc camera with Superior Af that will exceed what the Z9 offers currently. It has to kill all the noise for wildlife tracking and fast action. The noise output has to be superior with a nothing less than 28mp sensor. I truly believe its the APSc line from Nikon can set the af speed pace while the full frame bodies nail precision and accuracy. After that NIKON drops the ZX (Roman numeral 10) or ZΔ (Delta Greek for 10) or any other symbol for 10. Maybe a Japanese symbol like Z十 meaning Ten.
Since Nikon seems to become left behind more and more, they are going to develop towards becoming the new PENTAX of this mirrorless decade. Losing market share already. Ending up retreating to serve hobbyists, and to stuff which mostly hobbyists like. Just like Pentax in the DSLR era. P.S. I just see a comment by Nikon Z user @airjaff: "Nikon has embarrassingly bad af. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish I never bought a z7ii".
great info. it records c-log3 video in hevc (h.265) format. any thoughts on how to convert and what should be target bitrate for conversion of 4k and 1080p footage to h.264? also I couldn't find proper method to color grade c-log3. if you can guide, that would be great.
The lacrosse shot is stick flex and not rolling shutter. If it were rolling shutter the bend would in opposite directions on either side of her upper hand.
This is exactly what I needed to know. I want to buy a new Canon camera to primarily shoot sports and some video. I've been told by photographers I know to buy the R7 for the faster shutter speed. Something doesn't sit right with me spending $1500 on a crop sensor when the R8 is at the same price point. As an armature photographer I think the R8 is the best option for me?
@@keensoundguy6637 I don't understand, isn't macrophotography extreme closeups of small objects. 90% of what I shoot is high school track and field, 10% family portraits. My current setup is an old Canon Mark ii paired with a Canon 70-200mm f2.8 is ii lens. Works fine for portraits, not great for sports.
going to be picking this up for my young daughter who is saving up for photography school.. btw... i always wait patiently for SKITTLES... and i always know its coming...thank you for skittles
I remember when we were contemplating what R1 might be capable of when R5 and R6 were released. And then they released R3 implying R1 is gonna be even wilder than that, and now we're basing R1 on the R8 to even more insane heights... Where does it stop and what will this R1 actually be? :D
Should one be worried about the issues about overheating when shooting video and troubles with the SD-card reader and the batteries? I see several videos about that which makes me want to avoid the R8. I really want to like the R8 but the issues holds me back from buying one.
What type of person should get this camera and who should get an R7 instead? I know they are very similarly priced (or at least, in the market where I am)
This is my first full frame camera and comes with standard lens 24-50mm. Can you recommend me one or two lenses at the most regardless of the price that you say cover most of general photography. I’m not a professional photographer. Thanks
1/3200 at only ISO 5000 is insane for basketball....even the quality division 1 NCAA arenas I've been in don't have lighting that good. I'm lucky to be under ISO 5000 at 1/1000
Thanks for the cool video. I am doubting enormously. I started as a photographer two years ago. I now have my own photo studio. I mostly shoot portraits and fine art. I also occasionally shoot videos for companies. I have been using an a7ii on loan for the past few years. Now I want to buy my camera myself. I have a huge doubt between the R8 or R6 (not the markii) and can't make a choice after all those videos on RUclips. I watched your comparison but still in doubt.
Jared could you recommend me a camera for pet (cats) mostly indoor still and in action photography for beginner? I am thinking either r7 or r 8 which one will be better for such purposes? 😊
I photographed Men's LAX and a Philadelphia Union Soccer game after filming this video....and I'm even more sold on it's AF capabilities. This $1,500 R8 has superior AF capabilities than the Nikon Z9. It just works, without a fight. No, Nikon shooters wont like these facts. They will tell me I don't know how to set the Z9 up, and that it's human error, it's not. I know what I'm doing, and so do the Pro Z9 shooters I speak with at events. Right out of the box, it just works.
Jared go ahead and box one up for me.
Done and done.
the basketball bending wasn't the shutter it was the actual ball from the bounce.
Hey Jared! I own a Z9 and I'll be truly honest! you are right, Now, I don't have hands on the R8 just yet but from only the "Tracking Standpoint" what I saw in this video is mindblowing! Nikon Z9 is nowhere close to it.. Let me be clear with it... This is only regarding the subject detection and tracking capabilities. Hopefully Nikon fixes it. The af is good, but I often need to switch to dynamic on it and go "Dslr Style" quiet often
Conclusion, I do not have to wait for nikon z8 or z6 iii
I’m so happy for everyone that will get this camera. The more and more innovation and competition that occurs between companies hopefully more and more people will continue photography and professional cameras.
I’m a hobbyist photographer who travels often enough. I sold my Nikon gear 5 years ago and want to get back into it. I’ve been researching on whether to go Canon or Sony. I’m leaning to Canon because I like the ergonomics and ease of use. I don’t plan to go professional and I don’t have a strong negative opinion on the RF-EF adapters.
Body budget is around $1300 so that puts me around the R8 or A7III. There’s a lot of Canon/Sony switchers on RUclips but it feels like an iPhone vs Android for me.
I’m looking to only get 4 lenses on either system:
50mm
85mm
70-200mm
24-70mm
Optional 18-35mm.
This video just tipped me over to Canon
I have the M6 mark ii and I’ve been waiting to go full frame. This is the perfect camera for me, an upgrade in every way and no breaking the bank, and all my old batteries are compatible. What a stellar piece of kit for $1500
Cept you gone have to break the bank as soon as you wanna put a lens on it 😭😭😭
@@Photomeike nah I’ll be adapting my EF lenses lol
Good thing you still have $3500 left over from the savings of not getting a Nikon z9. Not like the z9 comes with free lenses. Correction. $4,000 to spend on glass.
@@froknowsphoto Yeah I don't think he was even looking in Nikon's direction, but I get it. 😅😅😅
I upgraded from this camera to the R. I wish this this camera was out when I upgraded. Nothing in this price point is this good.
I own the R6 Mark II and the RP (along with a dozen older Canon DSLRs) and I'm pretty sure I'll get rid of the RP and pick up this R8 as the backup/second camera. It only makes sense since the R6 Mark II and the R8 has the same sensor. The color science will match perfectly in the editing phase.
That’s an easy decision.
I am in to the 2:46 mark this is un believable WOW going back in
The biggest thing is the tracking coming diagonally towards the camera, so many cameras even with great eye AF struggle with this and to think this is adapted glass with was it a 600f/4 mkii? That is about 10+ years old now. Great results. For less than £2k damn.
Yup. Exactly.
Since R6-R5 was released, everything in canon (except the lack of third party lenses) is great! I still working with R6 bodies and I think that they will be in the bag until they die/R6 mk3 is released.
Would you recommend going for a r6 coming from a 6dII?
@@cuncapt Yes, without any doubt. You will regret nothing. 6D mk2 was my last reflex back in 2018 before I jump to the R and I would never go back again.
I don’t think my Sony A1 would track this well. It’s impressive.
The autofocus capabilities on the new canons are insane. Its reason enough to get one
If you are doing something that requires it, like fast sports, journalism. For majority of users, no point, except to be amazed by the AF specs. Nobody talks about battery life that is beyond bad, with 270-350 per charge (compare that to 1300-1500 on 90D).
@@mabolethit's r6ii or nothing, and the r6ii is pretty pricy
@@maboleth if you take pictures of your kids or go to their sports day or trying to catch a photo of your favorite pet in motion etc. you will notice a difference , and that's just the befinninng Good AF is fundamental. Battery life is fine unless you are a pro taking over 300 shots at one go and then all u have to do is carry extra batteries .... That's a non issue
@@fredriksvard2603not everyone has the money, or willing to shell out that much.
@@maboleth I took 1100 images on a car show, before I needed to change my battery.
If I wasn't already invested in the Sony echosystem, I might have considered this for my bird photography. The price is pretty hard to beat with that kind of AF
For about 1k USD, a R50 with RF100-400 for bird photography is possible.
@@zegzbrutal The R7 is a better APS-C bodyfor birding if you can swing it, but I'm definitely intrigued by the idea of the R50 + RF 100-400 as a backup/secondary setup for birding. e.g as a handheld option if the main camera is on a tripod/gimbal. Hoping to see some real-world experience with it soon.
@@dougkelly8956 I have R6 pair with RF100-400 already. It's a strong pairing.
I have high hopes on R50 so I've pre-order it.
I was really impressed by this camera but I can't get over the lens selection and price
@@TheRealJonathanArdila I don't see any problem using Canon unless you are desperate for cheap 16-28/28-75 f2.8 zooms. That which in practical use. RF24-105L, RF16 and RF24 work as well as those zooms. If adapt EF, the 24-70L&16-35L f4 IS USM can take on those e mount zooms. Canon lens IS is stronger than Sony IBIS IRL.
And RF line up is the most affordable and portable for telephotos.
I preordered the r8, I’m even more excited to get my hands on it after this video!
Good to see the R8 holds its own. I had some concerns when it first was announced. For the extra 1000.00 I like all the options that come with the R6MII personally and glad I chose that one for my first FF camera. Did you use the auto in the Case settings and what other AF options did you possibly change to dial it in a bit more? Great AF review.
FYI on lax sticks. That's the shutter. Lax sticks don't ever flex like that on a shot. I still use mechanical shutter on my R6 when shooting lax for that reason. The biggest challenge I've had with the eye AF autofocus has been it's ability to discern which player I want when taking high traffic shots. I've stayed using the traditional spot focus so I can be specific in telling the camera which person to start with. I look forward to trying the improved capabilities this spring season
I have my R6 set-up to start eye AF at the location the spot/central point AF is set to, and I have a 2nd back focus button for eye AF with servo AF, so then I just point my camera to the person I want to focus on, and start continuous eye AF. It's mostly focus and recomposing, I'm using the central AF point to tell the camera who I want to focus on. Jared did that on this video as well.
While this is not perfect, it does help, most of the time, when there are multiple subjects in the frame.
Currently have a beater 5DII with 50 STM, 24-105 L, and 200 f/2.8 L. I'd love to keep my lenses and upgrade the body. I was going to maybe replace with something else that's not too much more than what I would get for the 5DII, but this R8 looks so good, I think it would be worth living with the beater until I can get this. Wow.
Pre-ordered this to go with my r7. This is what I wanted the rp to be and here we are.
I sold my Sony gear going to buy one of these. Which lens you recommend for wildlife?
Tempted to to the same, this is such a great complement to the R7
@@lewcehjitl3282 it depends what wildlife you shoot and what region you're in. Where I am everyone wishes their rf 100-500 was as long as the sony 200-600 lol
Would love to see one of your famous AF tracking shootouts with other comparable cameras. Maybe even throw in the Z9 for good measure ;)
alright, looks like the money i spent on the nikon z9 wasn't worth it comparing to this $1500 camera only in terms of tracking... the tracking in this video for the canon r8 is absolutely incredible!!!
That is a correct statement right there.
I sold my Z7II at a big loss after I tried the R7 and A74. I'm holding out for a 30mp stacked sensor though. Canon's RF lenses are quite expensive, and I'm done adapting. Tamron offers Sony users some decent f2.8 glass which is a great value, light, and compact.
@@skyrunr You gotta sell a kidney or two, to be able to afford RF lenses unfortunately. Switched to Sony and never looked back. First lens I owned was the tamron 28-75 2.8 and I took that thing everywhere. Recently got the 70-180 and been shooting weddings with just these two lenses. Probably going to invest in some primes next. Cant beat Sony when it comes to great lenses at affordable prices.
@@b47d16 I paired the 70-180 with the 20-40f2.8, a Samyang 45f1.8, and the kit lens (used.) For now I'm using an A7C, a bit less dynamic range than the Z's, but I'm making it work. Not to mention how good the battery life is! Hoping the A7CII has a joystick and 30mp. If Sony would just work on making them more comfortable in hand!
I photograph events such as weddings. I bought a new R6II. Should I buy a new R8 for a backup camera or keep my old R6I...? {If I sell the R6I, I can buy a new R8 with this money}
Thank you very much for all the reviews you do!
Have you done a R7 vs R8 which is better? Both have some amazing pros and cons and prices the same just about
Good info, and appreciated. I have been wondering if the lesser memory in the R8 compared to the R6mkII had an appreciable effect on AF speed and accuracy. It sounds like it doesn’t. Frankly, the buffering limitations are ones I can live with, as they fit into my shooting style anyhow. This video helps to confirm what I already knew: my RP’s days are numbered, and the R8 will be taking its place as quickly as I can afford one. Thanks!
I have a 10 year old Canon T5i Rebel in excellent condition that still serves me well. However it's definitely lagging behind in the video department (1080p 30 h.264) and the AF and low light performance is mediocre by today's standards. I guess it's finally time to upgrade, the R8 looks like a worthy upgrade for the price. I guess I'll keep and demote my T5i to B-cam status, its still in excellent condition and works perfectly so might as well keep it.
Wow!!! 😍I was waiting for Canon to come up with something like this. I couldn't move to Sony as I just find their colors a bit off and the images are also a bit more difficult to edit in LR. I am not sure if I missed it in your video. But can you share info regarding the weather sealing? Thank you!!
A perfect companion to this camera would be a 50mm F/1.4 IS lens. Costing 1099 USD and weighing around 900g (2 lbs). I would pair it with a 24-105mm f/4 and travel with only these lenses.
Oh yeah. Canon, when will we get IS nifty fifty, damn it? Even if f/1.8 mark 2 for 400-500!
Jared I'm impressed with the R8 also impressed that you said "warp balls" with a straight face and made no jokes, become wiser you are 🤗 btw great AF review 👍😎
Great photos and review! I appreciate the shirt. 🇨🇦 As a primarily digital photographer since 2001, I’m pretty damn happy that my entire catalogue is RAW. Way more flexibility at the time of capture and as technology improves.
Canon always make great cameras… great colours, god speed AF, fast readout e shutter damnnnn… thank God unlike youtubers taking about video capabilities of a camera, so boring.. camera is to take pic, cinema line to shoot video professionally
As a Nikon dslr shooter, when I decide to switch to mirrorless it will likely be Canon. Too many ‘meh’ reviews of the Nikon Z cameras regarding auto focus. Imho Nikon needs to get on their horse and either fix the AF issues with the current crop of Z cameras or introduce new ones that match the competition.
Nikon has embarrassingly bad af. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish I never bought a z7ii, thought they would improve the af but they have done bugger all !
They should be able to, the z9 has solid af and all around better than dslr. However, canon and Sony are still ahead. Nikon is however continuing to update and improve their autofocus on the z9 expend 7 chip which when it is put in other bodies should be pretty much perfected with all the random glitches gone.
The current crop of cameras is going on 3 years old. There’s no magic fix.
Every time he reviews a Canon or a Sony its the best thing since sliced bread. 3 months later everybody talks about all the flaws they find. You just can’t believe this guy on anything he reviews.
Great review for how you were using the R8, but please also review the camera shooting birds in flight and other wildlife. You've made it clear that's not what you enjoy shooting, but a number of your viewers do, and your type of unbiased viewpoint is why they subscribe. Showing how the camera performs using the RF 600-800, a more common kit addition to a $1500. body, would also be appreciated. The majority won't have our RF L's probably ever.
Respect to you and your team, fantastic video, great pictures.
The music with the first slide show fits so well!
I'm almost sold on the R8 as a compliment to my R7. I just wish it had a bigger body to accommodate the same LP-E6NH rather than the E17.
I'm waiting for Canon to figure out where they want the rear dial and power button to be. Not to mention some mid-range RF zoom lenses. Especially after they increased the price of the 70-400F4 by $500 since I tried one with the Canon R several years ago.
Thank you for this video Jared! We just picked this camera up for video, but the stills aspect is insane along with the face tracking, what a superb camera at the price point.‼️🙌🏾🤩
I love the music you put with that! I was really getting into it
Cemented my choice for R8. And thanks Jared for introducing lacrosse!
Jared great video, I noticed you're switching between an expanded mode and Face / Eye + tracking, why do you do that, why not single spot etc? I am still learning the r5 and the focus modes, taking it out to shoots every day. I used to shoot with canon with a 5Dmk2, mk3 and then I switched to a D850. I mostly do product shoots.
I'm going to get this as my second camera to my r5. Perfect for video and BTS and lineups
Currently only £939 brand new. Thanks Jared. You're my first reviewer for camera real world usage :))
Unrelated to the camera review, but I went to see the Globetrotters a couple weeks ago and I enjoyed the show. The "Dazzle" guy is basically doing like a circus-level juggling performance, and they had a good mixture of their classic old jokes and some new gags too.
Hey Jared, nice video! i do a lot of cycling photography and im turning into a profesional, do you recommend this camera as a second body? row now i have the R6 and work perfect for me but i need a backup body.
Impressive. Looks better at tracking than my R5 and Z9 (they both still get the shots). Good price too, but too bad it’s half RP. Makes it a no go for me.
Great video and awesome action shots I’m thinking about getting a canon camera for wildlife, sunset, sporting events and landscape if money not a problem what do you think is a better all around camera the new R8 or the R6 Mark ll
AF is lookin solid!
Great video! Watching the new Harlem Globstrotters brought back memories of the original ones (I think these were original) in Curry Neal and Meadowlark Lemon.
Happy to hear that same fro knows photo after all these years
I'm still waiting for the review of the R6 Mark II (not just pReviews). It's easily the best camera in its class (followed by the A7IV and then the S5 II) but almost nobody covers this outside of its initial release (even Pete Mckinnon only did a preview and nothing else and Irene Rudnyk, the second biggest Canon ambassador, hasn't done any review).
Dude chill out. You got your moneys worth. The R8 has the same sensor as the R6 ii. The only difference is IBIS.
I love my R10 but the new R8 looks insane for the price.
U should do the best camera for like low light photography like for dark setting venues for concerts, clubs, raves would be cool to see which camera handles the quick changes of colors as well as how much grain each camera make produces like the RP, R3, R6 mk2
I agree!
It is truely amazing that the only that you appear to focus on is autofocus, that's it. Every camera..... "How sticky is the autofocus?"........ "How quickly does the AF acquire?" you seem to avoid the very obvious questions: How eye-bleedingly expensive is RF glass? I mean why would you use an adapted lens for the lacrosse? Why not use the $13000 RF version? Yep $13k! And to be honest, you could put the EF 600 in front of a box brownie and you'd get great shots. You used possibly one of the best telephotos in the world, not the usual lenses that most of us have.
How about talking about the very few lenses that are available on the RF mount? How there is not competition on the RF mount, so Canon will keep rinsing it's customers.
We could talk about the tiny buffer that the R8 has (much like the R7), your experience of it does match others. So when you are shoot continuous RAW, how quickly does that fill? How long does it take to clear? So many unanswered questions......................................................Why would anyone buy a camera and allow the manufacturer to decide what glass you can use? It's a licence to rinse.
At the end of the day the R8 is the poor man's R6 Mk2. Poor weather sealing and average build quality. Slower reading sensor, so expect plenty of rolling shutter (might not see much in basketball but baseball?), one card slot and no IBIS (great if you are a pro but for the average photographer....). It's got it's place but you still need RF glass. If you are happy with Canon dictating what you do, that's fine, after all, you are only a paying customer.
I'm just an amateur photographer with the knowledge to get some decent shots with the equipment I currently have (a crop sensor Canon DSLR). Being as I don't want to use my hobby as any kind of a business, I've been waiting for a reasonable Canon camera to come into my life, and I think this is it. I'd rather get the R8 and invest in some slightly better glass then to get the R6 MkII and suffer with some middling lenses. I dabble in all sorts of photography; a student of many, master of none. But the all around capability of this camera, whether it be landscapes, portraits, air shows, sports, astrophotography... I think this body will be able to handle them all. I'm truly excited. Now to drum up the $1500. :) Thanks for the info, 'Fro.
Jared, help me out! I’m looking to get a nicer camera and get more into photography. I’m looking at the Canon R8 or Sony a6700. I’ve had a Canon DSLR and the a6000 in the past and liked them both. I currently use a Canon SX40hs to shoot my daughter’s dance team at sporting events. I like it because of the nice zoom from the bleachers. The pictures aren’t always the greatest, especially in low light. Besides the dance team, I plan to shoot some nature photos. What would you recommend? Thanks!!
The R8 will never beat my Canon Pixma Printer for Speed
Thank you very much for this video. I watched it several times in the past few weeks, and this was what led me to my decision to buy this camera. And (ta-daa): Tomorrow, I can pick it up at my preferred shop.
Greez from Switzerland
Jared, you were shooting at 1/2500sec on some shots. Why wouldn't a mechanical shutter give you a "rolling shutter" effect?
Remember that at high speeds you are shooting through a moving slit. Logically the moving subject is in a different place as that slit moves across the sensor.
Somebody explain to me why a mechanical shutter doesn't give rolling shutter effect, on moving subjects, at high shutter speeds.
Would love to see a review on this camera's video capabilities, which I'm sure you will do (even if it's just small part of the overall review for the camera) this is more or less just me being impatient to see it lol
Great video as usual.
I have the Canon R6 Mark II and Canon 90D. I'm looking to replace the 90D and get a 2nd Mirrorless Camera, but I don't want to spend a ton of money. I was thinking about the R, R7, or maybe this R8. Push come to shove. Maybe I can grab a pre-owned R6. Any thoughts?
I compared the R6 (not II) to the R8 I own in the store and the R6 just focuses faster, and more definitively. There is no guessing in the R6. I've played around with all sorts of settings and cannot get it to match. Also, there are more useful controls in the R6 menu than the R8. And the viewfinder is better. The R6 is a nice step up from the R8... I read a lot of your reviews (and others) and it makes it seem like the R8 is just as good as higher end models when you compare them. In the real world, using the latest copies on the market, there is a noticeable difference to me. I just got an RF100 2.8L and it's ok, but it misses focus a lot. I'll keep messing with settings (I've watched yours and others' videos on all the settings.)
Thank Jared! I appreciate all that you do!
The R3 and gripped R6/R5 both have portrait grips to make shooting in portrait orientation easier and more comfortable...how was it for you shooting the R8 with those adapted tele lenses with your hand turned? Couldn't be comfortable I imagine...
I would like to know how it goes with the video side! I was about to by a R7, but... I'd like to know how the R8 does with videos! Thanks! Great tuto dude! 😊
The basketball isn’t warped. It just bounced off the ground and is moving with force. No camera flaws!
Looks super nice. No IBIS is a bit of a downside for me, but overall it seems like a great camera.
RF lenses have IS anyways
@@zegzbrutal True but IBIS can work in conjuction with lens IS to improve performance.
RF lens IS alone is stronger than Sony IBIS. So I wouldn't worry too much
IBIS is not that great because it wobble.
I prefer the movie digital stabilization even though there's a cropping vs IBIS.
I figured I would post this here in case others can show interest too.. Can you do an R7 vs R8 review? I'm really torn between these 2 right now.
It’s going to take a min but we’re going to film a comparison.
i really need more Harlem Globetrotters in my life, they are freaking amazing, they have always been freaking amazing
I'm sold. I could only imagine how stills shots would come out.
cannot deny this deal from Canon
I have the canon 5d mark iv and am considering selling my camera and L lens to purchase the r8 and some glass. Think that’s a good switch? I want to go mirrorless AND I also want something that I can travel with and shoot content. I primarily use my camera for video.
How do you compare it to the R7?
Annoyingly £1700 in the uk, first curtain shutter, tiny tiny battery one card slot. I’ll stick with the r6 and r7 for now.
Love the FroPacks! Is there any Plans for a FroPack 4?
Yup! Currently about halfway done, will be released this year
I love SKITTLES too have them all but it is the best - wow the R8 have I wasted money on my R3 and R6 MKII ?
No you haven’t.
R6, R3 and R6mii and R5 can always have firmware update,.
@@froknowsphoto Thanks :)
"Canon is the sleeper of the bunch"- Jared Polin, 2019
Much like Grizzlies in Winters.
Thanks Jared, really helpful. That auto focus tracking is amazing! Super fast and accurate. Apologies if I missed it but did you use the new ‘false shutter sound on the electronic shutter mode?’ And if so, is it any good? Hopefully, not too loud?
I shoot in silent.
@@froknowsphoto …..and in RAW
If the menu works like the R6 MKII, there is an adjustment for the “false” shutter sound volume.
@@fromquake Yes I love it, you set the volume as you need, you are able to tell when shoot. But the shutter is so fast even on the slowest setting, its hard to take just one shot.
@@robertschwarz8702 great thanks Robert. That’s good to know. At least with some sound you have an idea of how many images you are taking.
Awesome review as usual! Thank you so much Jared! Good luck!
Convinced me to purchase this camera. Do a full review Jared thanks!
Jared would you say that R8 has same AF tracking capability as R50 ? Or is one better than the other?
Thanks, Jared!!
R7 owner here. How do you think the R8 compares to it? Looking to sell my R and perhaps look into this, or just a second R7 body. Haven't had much time with my R7 yet.
First?
how was the experience not having an autofocus joystick to switch between lockons and targets?
Totally fine. I set the d pad to move points if needed. But it’s basically not needed because of how fast the af is.
@@froknowsphoto okay that's amazing to hear
ill say this again . Nikon should not compete for af speed at this time. I think Nikon has to concentrate on Af Precision and accuracy. The Z9 is a fast camera, no doubt but not at the expense of af accuracy. When the Z8 comes out let it be able to nail images in focus and sharp. Let it be the camera that will shoot portraits and models and nail the af of the eye and not the lashes. Let the z8 speak for itself. The Z9 firmware can continuously be tweaked to keep up with the jonses. After the Z8 this is Where Nikon has to separate itself from EVERYONE by releasing the Z90/ Z900 APSc camera with Superior Af that will exceed what the Z9 offers currently. It has to kill all the noise for wildlife tracking and fast action. The noise output has to be superior with a nothing less than 28mp sensor. I truly believe its the APSc line from Nikon can set the af speed pace while the full frame bodies nail precision and accuracy. After that NIKON drops the ZX (Roman numeral 10) or ZΔ (Delta Greek for 10) or any other symbol for 10. Maybe a Japanese symbol like Z十 meaning Ten.
Since Nikon seems to become left behind more and more, they are going to develop towards becoming the new PENTAX of this mirrorless decade. Losing market share already. Ending up retreating to serve hobbyists, and to stuff which mostly hobbyists like. Just like Pentax in the DSLR era.
P.S. I just see a comment by Nikon Z user @airjaff: "Nikon has embarrassingly bad af. They should be ashamed of themselves. I wish I never bought a z7ii".
For the price point that's a killer camera
How does the AF work when you're shooting basketball and you've got multiple players in the shot?
great info. it records c-log3 video in hevc (h.265) format. any thoughts on how to convert and what should be target bitrate for conversion of 4k and 1080p footage to h.264? also I couldn't find proper method to color grade c-log3. if you can guide, that would be great.
The lacrosse shot is stick flex and not rolling shutter. If it were rolling shutter the bend would in opposite directions on either side of her upper hand.
Thanks 👍 looking forward to see you review of it's video features too
This is exactly what I needed to know. I want to buy a new Canon camera to primarily shoot sports and some video. I've been told by photographers I know to buy the R7 for the faster shutter speed. Something doesn't sit right with me spending $1500 on a crop sensor when the R8 is at the same price point. As an armature photographer I think the R8 is the best option for me?
What kind of armatures do you photograph? Some might put you more into a macrophotography situation, so wouldn't lens choice be more important?
@@keensoundguy6637 I don't understand, isn't macrophotography extreme closeups of small objects. 90% of what I shoot is high school track and field, 10% family portraits. My current setup is an old Canon Mark ii paired with a Canon 70-200mm f2.8 is ii lens. Works fine for portraits, not great for sports.
Been watching you a while. These photos came out awesome.
going to be picking this up for my young daughter who is saving up for photography school.. btw... i always wait patiently for SKITTLES... and i always know its coming...thank you for skittles
I remember when we were contemplating what R1 might be capable of when R5 and R6 were released. And then they released R3 implying R1 is gonna be even wilder than that, and now we're basing R1 on the R8 to even more insane heights... Where does it stop and what will this R1 actually be? :D
I think stacked sensor, like R3, with even more FPS, so mb a new processor. And some wild RAW video shooting
Should one be worried about the issues about overheating when shooting video and troubles with the SD-card reader and the batteries? I see several videos about that which makes me want to avoid the R8. I really want to like the R8 but the issues holds me back from buying one.
What type of person should get this camera and who should get an R7 instead? I know they are very similarly priced (or at least, in the market where I am)
This is my first full frame camera and comes with standard lens 24-50mm.
Can you recommend me one or two lenses at the most regardless of the price that you say cover most of general photography. I’m not a professional photographer. Thanks
1/3200 at only ISO 5000 is insane for basketball....even the quality division 1 NCAA arenas I've been in don't have lighting that good.
I'm lucky to be under ISO 5000 at 1/1000
I was thinking the same thing. I shoot in HS gyms and I'm usually at ISO 8000 at 1/500. It's rough.
There is no mechanical shutter
What is the disadvantage of not having a mechanical shutter
Thanks for the cool video. I am doubting enormously. I started as a photographer two years ago. I now have my own photo studio. I mostly shoot portraits and fine art. I also occasionally shoot videos for companies. I have been using an a7ii on loan for the past few years. Now I want to buy my camera myself. I have a huge doubt between the R8 or R6 (not the markii) and can't make a choice after all those videos on RUclips. I watched your comparison but still in doubt.
for sure, those sticks have that much flex.
For a min I forgot this video was about auto focus lmao those globetrotters are damn good man😂😂
Hmm, so this would be a good replacement for my 7D MK1 with an EF adaptor. Only downside is they are $2500 here in Aus.
I was gonna upgrade my Sony for a newer model, but I'm getting the R8 instead. I WANT IT !
The over-under and how long it takes Jared to say Skittles is 6:07. Place your bets.
I WON !!!!!!!!
Jared could you recommend me a camera for pet (cats) mostly indoor still and in action photography for beginner? I am thinking either r7 or r 8 which one will be better for such purposes? 😊