Triangle Titus EZ vs. KEF LS50 shootout
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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Hi Steve - I am fortunate to have a Triangle dealer where I live, and I have heard the Comet EZ (one step “up”) as well as the Gaia towers, both with my own amplifier. I agree whole heartedly with your impressions. The one word I would use to describe Triangle speakers is that they are FAST! There is a life and realism to the music that just engaged me. I preferred the Gaias as they have more low frequency extension. While not the ultimate in bass response (2 x 5.25” woofers,) the Gaias are much better suited for me. In the EZ line the Antals would be even better, but my primarily listening room is quite small and I’m concerned they might overpower the room though the extra sensitivity would be welcome as I have an SET amp.
I pretty much agree that these speakers and others in the EZ line are not for rocking out hard; they wouldn’t be an embarrassment, but for acoustic, jazz, most pop, etc., I think they’re hard to beat.
I’m sure the good folks at the distributor would be happy to provide review samples of other Triangle speakers. IMO I think they are one of the best values in the audiophile space.
I never worry much about bass extension on a bookshelf so long as the rest is great. A sub can always be added if so desired. I don't care for speakers that add a 60hz hump to fake bass.
Scott Lowell I agree, but in my room it would be a challenge to place a good sub, due to space limitations. Currently I am using double Advents - not the best in resolution and speed, but sort of a fun throwback until I pull the trigger on the Triangles. Or something else 😂
I have a set of Triangle Niia tower speakers that are 15 years old. I love them, just wish there was a local dealer as I want to audition their Megallon (spelling?) Series.
Hello, did you prefer the Gaia than the Comet ? Why ? I am desperately looking for opinions on the Gaia EZ. I hesitate with Dali Oberon 5. I have a Cambridge CXA60 amp. Thanks for your feedback.
@@mikaelfrancois7512 Yes, I preferred the Gaia. There seem d to be more foundation to the music. For me there needs to be *enough* quality bass to underpin the rest of the frequency spectrum. That’s what makes music reproduction more whole and organic, at least for me.
I’m REALLY happy with my Triangles (Titus EZ) but I do play them with a REL T/5i subwoofer. That is a match made in heaven. The frosting is that they look like a perfect match as well.
Use the REL with my totem mites. Magic
Forget the speaker shootout, sounds like there’s a real shootout going on outside!!!
One of the most underrated and overlooked brands in the game. Was introduced to them a few years ago when I was first heard a pair of their towers, of which I can't remember the name but they were finished in a beautiful red and were actually pretty cheap, under $1400(after Indian import taxes) and I was simply stunned by the performance of those speakers. Haven't heard any of their recent models, but thanks to your video now I'm reminded of them again and will probably contact the Distributor soon.
I had the Titus EZ and NOW i have Comete EZ. These speakers are INCREDIBLE, matched with a Rega Elex-R.
They are REALLY fast, the highs are incredible, and perfect for jazz or progressive rock.
How would you compare the titus to the comete? I recon they are quite similar except the comete has more base and sounds „bigger“?
Hi Raul, I would also be interested in your feedback. I currently own a pair of Triangle BR02 as desktop speakers (1m/1.5m away from me)... and was willing to upgrade to a Titus EZ for their horn and better trebbles... but should/could I use a pair of Comete EZ as desktop speaker? wouldn't it be "too much of a good thing"? (I've found a shop selling a pair of Comete EZ at 700€... it's very tempting).
I'm listening to all kind of music... maybe a bit more of Jazz and it's true the Triangle make my jazz records shine!
@@dinhduynguyen3809 Hi !!! Sorry for the late answer. Yes, the Comete EZ sounds bigger, fits better in bigger spaces. The horned tweeter is the same, but Comete sounds bigger, better bass AND (very important) has FRONT bass ports.
@@francoisbouchet9907 Hi !!! The Cometes are too big for desktop speakers... they have TWO front bass ports. For a desktop, the Titus are perfect. Just remember, you have to make a equilateral triangle, AND you need a good pair of speaker isolation pads or similar.
@@rauld.s.4433 thanks a lot for your reply, I'll go with the Titus with no regrets then! 👍
I have owned a pair of triangle quartets for years now, and consider them my final speakers, it’s pure love....i have heard pretty much the entire lineup, and the signature or ez is the sweetspot, especially when using tube amps due to their high sensitivity as the magellans need many watts to show what they can do. I dont think most people would want anything more than a pair of Gaias in life, to be honest. Also, 10/10 waf across the brand.
It’s nice to see someone review these Triangles too, especially you Steve! I mention you in my videos often. 😊👌🎼✨
but you didnt
I have the Titus EZ’s in my second system and much prefer them to the LS50’s (had the LS50’s for home demo. The Triangle speakers are highly recommended and astonishingly good speakers. The bass response in my system is great.
Holy shit, better than the ls50 in near field? 🤔🤔🤔
Just got a pair, oh wow, everything you said and more. Significantly better in emotion and tonality than LS50s but not as much weight. With my Ayre ax-7e and Audiolab mdac I am in heaven. Ayre difficult to get in U.K., triangle less so but the pairing is a match made in heaven! Thank you Steve for such a concise and clear quick review .
I like that the LS50s are a reference for so many reviewers ( love mine :-)
how about pairing the Titus EZ with Rega IO?
Also, quartets are still available if you look hard enough, and at a heavy discount...by far the best deal in hifi if you ask me, especially with the substantial increase in prices across the brand seen recently
Is the silver bit metal? If it is metal, does it affect the HF response?
Thank you thank you thank you Steve. I’ve had a pair of the 30th anniversary ‘Comete’ model for about four years now and I’m hard-pressed to find anything that I like better in that class and price range. I would love to see them go up against the S400 Buchardts in a comparison. The reason for the emphatic thank you is because it’s hard to find any reviews for these guys’ bookshelf speakers. Sean did some a little while ago so it’s nice to see that that ‘Triangle’ are finally are getting exposed. Love what you do. Cheers, Chris
Even worse, try finding used Triangles in the 2nd hand market. Not many sellers and not many buyers. Stick with the best speaker that is name branded to hedge against future disappointment when Craig's list/Ebay selling.
Hi Chris, I'm with you all the way, a rare fabulous find. Several years ago I discovered them found a demo pair of Zerius 202 towers in the UK and had them shipped to me here in China. Loved every day with them, clean, fast, lively but not overly so... I'm sure quite similar sound profile to the Comete....Best, Mario.... Here's my newest vid comparing 3 awesome standmounts that deliver big scale... studio.ruclips.net/user/videoXac4InYO-8k/edit
You should look into Jean Marie Reynaud speakers - a French brand that's more versatile.
good review Steve ! I like richness sound and honestly always liked paper woofers but still having a problem finding a new speaker to out do my hpm 100s for under 1500 bucks , just curious have you heard the vintage Hpm 100s on a 300 watt class AB amp with a very warm preamp ? I don't know wish svs would send me a set of their new prime pinnacles to review I think they may be a new king in price range ! Can't get SVS to reply to the stereo bargin file !!!!!! guess they keeping it with the hi me theater reviewers lol
I've heard the ls50 at 2 different places. I didn't like them. In curious, are they the new standard in the relatively affordable audiophile category?
This is coming from a proac, harbeth, atc guy.
Hey Steve, why not play a sound demo of each speaker with a mic positioned close enough to minimize local interference?
You aren’t bound by the constraints of print media here. So why constrain your content by abiding by legacy media methodologies?
WoundrousMindTrick A pro recording setup costs less than 1/2 an iPhone and is simple to use. Sure, level matching and recording is more work than simply rambling for 20 odd minutes but it’s time worth spending.
While you don’t get the full in room experience, the same limitations apply to compared equipment helping to level a playing field and enforce -some- measure of objectivity beyond “take my word for it” for a salesman.
Sexy, but for that price the Ohm mini?
Do you think the Titus are better than B&W 606/607 and or ELAC B6? Thank you!
cinqo7
Yes I do
The latest elac 5.2 kill these except for top end
@@jackfalco5351 haha absolutely not
Interesting to see a loudspeaker brand that uses horn elements besides Klipsch, JBL, Yamaha and such companies...
Does anyone know how does the Titus EZ compare to the Comete Ez?
Hi Steve. I started to use just a dac/pre-amp w active speakers more than 5 years ago. The main reason is I am trying not to use any interconnects between components. Speakers cables, interconnects can cost more than the components themselves. Their high costs basically killed the hobby for me. Do an episode to tell us how to continue having separates without being bankrupted buying cables and interconnects.
Isaac Chew buy the low end cables from audioquest their great also like the yb3 power cable for under 200 bucks golden gate rca under 90 bucks and pearl optical under 40 bucks then buy the or speaker wire and separate banana plugs and connect them yourself think I have 480 total in mine and they sound great !,But I do get what your saying
Blue Jeans Cables - high quality, reasonable prices
Warm greetings from Germany. Thanks for your wonderful contributions.
Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland. Danke für deine wunderbaren Beiträge.
to bad its bass reflex design, i never going back to that again. just think how good it would have sounded in a sealed box.
i like how it looks and what steve says about it.
I don’t think you can fairly say that. I mean, why not judge any speaker just on how it sounds, regardless of what design is incorporated? Bass reflex, sealed, horns... in the end, what matters is how the designer puts it all together. But I understand what you’re saying; you know “what you like”.
The Triangle Comete i fail in love with Steve ! My 1st over review is up of the big bro Comete but 2nd overview I will pop the hood 😆
Where can I buy these speakers in the US (online store)?
adorama
I am not so sure that really is a horn tweeter??? Seems to look like a dome tweeter set inside a horn-esque wave guide. Am I mistaken? In fact it seems like a lot of the modern "horn" tweeters are like this. Inexpensive Klipsch have membranes inside that appear to be a dome style tweeter as well. Maybe I need more info but I always thought horns were basically just a magnet within a horn like old PA speakers. Could you provide more info sometime?
Looks to me like a horn using an exponential curve to mate the sound wave with the air as is done in musical instruments such as trumpets, trombones, etc. Items like the Klipsch like to use the tractrix curve because it needs less space back to front to get good results. I think what you are thinking of as a true horn is a compression driver which is simply the most extreme possible application of the horn concept. It is used in PA systems because nothing else can be as efficient.
Speakers do indeed look cool!
Where the hell do you live next to a Horn and Siren factory never heard so much back ground noise in my life I had to lol when you mentioned about the horn in Titus :)
Ever heard about New York?
@@OriginalMindTrick Sorry I can't hear you 😆
How this could be your listening room with these much of Street noise?...
Welcome to New York lol
Probably why he's into horns these days.
Better than an ear trumpet!
I live in rural Montana.
Silence means I can enjoy the subtle treble delicacy of my LS50s with REL subs (with my pygmy pony out by the dental floss bush ;-)
@@20CycleMonger
LOL!
Was going to ask how the dental floss was this year, then got to the end of your post. You were way ahead of me. : D
@@20CycleMonger Frank would approve
Can you do a live feed sometime but the camera pointing outside your window I'm always interested to know what's going on for 24 hours
Triangle are under appreciated. I have the Naia's and they sound terrific. Fast, high definition - they sing !
I have the same ser as you. They are now 15 years old. I love the sound they still produce. I would love the audition their Megallon (spelling?) Series as I want to upgrade to newer speakers. Unfortunately their are no dealers near me.
Wow! Beautiful
Cellulose?? Woofer made from paper.
SightLess Wisdom exactly!
Depends on what else is in the mix ;-)
This is recurrent in triangle speakers, it is a deliberate choice to choose paper for the quality of it in medium part of the spectrum.
cool these (or others) Triangles may be what I'm looking for in the long term!
I'd want to experience a speaker with good dynamics. Some sort of a RP 600M , but tamed a little. A higher end speaker than the Klipsch, that images better and is more transparent. Sacrificing some but not all of the dynamics, hopefully.
I'd alternate between this hypotethical speaker and something complementary like a Harbeth #fiveYearPlans
entity279 Trying not to sound like the ad agency for Triangle ... I think you would really like Triangles. I didn’t play with or pay much attention to imaging during my audition, but energy, transparency and “drive” are in abundance in my opinion.
@@PanAmStyle Thanks. I think i'd like them too. I'm probably 1 year away from being able to afford them so I'll keep following Triangle in the meanwhile.
Cymbals will sound like brass pinging when a speakers tweeter setup is perfected , not just a signal, you can hear and feel the sense of brass material. The same goes with a good tt cartridge. Cymbal reproduction tells all.
This Drummer agrees with your assessment. A good speaker should tell you if the drummer is using Wood or Nylon tipped drum sticks, on a Ride Cymbal. I listen, to the "bell" of a Ride Cymbal if it's being used ... "hi-hat" work, is also very telling.
it's one of my things to look for, watching a DVD when a drummer hits a cymbal, can you hear it ? frequently, it seems 'not so much'.... the actual detailed tone is a higher level test of course.
@@rickc661 - Rick, as always, it's material dependent. One must know the Music. One must know the Recordings. That being said; "good hunting".
Canton Reference book shelf’s did the same to me over my LS50? Steve. Have you ever listened to the Canton’s
Eric It’s been a long time. There are US distribution has been pretty spotty.
@Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac Bingo! Speaker of the month back when and now? Spotty.
In a space restricted (but acoustically treated) room where these 2 speakers would be close to a wall or corner, which would be the most forgiving & better in near field? I was thinking of ditching studio monitors in a DJ setup.
The chrome horn lens screams cheap. Reminds me of 80’s boomboxes with chrome trim and accents.
Oh you’re one of those people. We’re talking about speakers and you’re talking about what?
I'll take the LS50's every time. Why? Because they don't need a certain type of music to sound their best. They play ALL music well. As these should for the price. I honestly wonder if people could tell the difference between the Triangles and the Sony SSCS5's in a blind behind the screen listening test. There's a lot of hype in this hobby.
And if it's not on Amazon I won't buy it and the Triangles are not on Amazon and the LS50' are.
@@stevenholt5484
That's how I got my Black Edition ls50s ($999),Not that I didn't try the local dealers first.
@@20CycleMonger That's a good price for the LS50s!
Depends what you want really. I had a pair of LS50, while they do play all music well, they are colored. They make bad recordings sound good. A good pair of audiophile speakers will stay true to the recording, garbage in garbage out.
In France the Triangle Titus EZ is half the price of the KEF LS50. I think that's a major win for the Triangle speakers.
What happened to your video from yesterday? It appears to have been deleted.
R Bass That vid got trashed in the comments. That’s probably why it’s gone.
@@ecyfoto that's too bad, I enjoyed that lady's perspective.
Designed in France or made in France 🇫🇷?
Doan Trinh designed in France, made in China. But let me ask him what consumer-electronics to you own that are not made in China or Asia?
Interesting. Thanks for clarifying.
@@epi2045 Only the higher end lines(Signature and Magellan) are made in France. The shop near me has them hooked-up to Rouge tube stuff and the Rega Rp10.
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Hi Steve. I own Naim amps. Chord Dac. B&w 800 series speakers. Rega CD player all proudly made in Great Britain.
Love your channel.
Sorry to gripe. Purchased into the Chinese manufactured HiFi with Cambridge Audio class xd amps. I bought three giving the first and second ones the benefit of doubt.
All failed prematurely! The last one turned itself upto full volume and nearly blew up my speakers.
Never again!
Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac My Magnepan’s (both sets 1.7 and MMG) are made in USA. Mark Levinson No. 331 amplifier made in USA. B&W old Prism CDMs and mid 2000’s 604 S3 made in England. Mid 90s Klipsch KG series made in USA. Clearaudio turntable Germany. I don’t have issues with things made in China but higher spec models from the same company usually are natively built - this the same for Triangle. I asked because it does make a difference in model differentiation and resale / trade.
I saw your video on the Magnepan LRS and amazed that such a speaker can be around $650 and still be made in the USA. I’m planning to sell my MMG for the new LRS.
Keep up the great videos. Been following your reviews before RUclips ever existed.
So it sounds like if you could only have one speaker of these two, it would be the Triangle....after praising the LS50 for years? This is the part of audio which drives me nuts. Opinions change with the wind in an ADD culture. I think the LS50 is still the gold standard in this category but that's me.
Michael You’re implying that just because I like something I have to continue to say it’s the best there is? The triangle is better in the way as I described in the video.
Hi Steve...yeah, no speaker does everything / is the best per se. I guess speakers are like women to me...you pick one you love and stay with them within a given system unless there are issues. The only difference is one can own speakers but hopefully not have multiple woman partners. Constant comparing is also not a hot button for me. My goal is to always enjoy the music / emotional connections via good audio gear, of which there are gobs to choose from, as you know.
And yes, I am a Triangle fan, actually came close to buying them before deciding on the LS50's.... but as Steve Jobs once said and I paraphrase..."you have one horse to run the race so take your pick among lots of good horses and go with it."
@Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac Not for resale. A topic not often discussed.
Michael
He just introducing another option. The LS 50’s are flagship well respected reference speaker
I own a pair but I’m always open to different options
The LS 50 are not all rounders, they reproduce and present very well, but they are also flawed.
There is no perfect speaker and mostly speakers are more inclined towards personal taste.
They are not finite
LS50 - the most overrated speaker on the market. In the UK they just dropped the price from £1200 to £800...still too much for such a brutal sound.
agree.
Audiovector sr1 avantgarde arreté
Great speakers
Nice video, but this wasn't a 'versus' review at all. You barely mentioned the Kef :) Appreciate your channel though :)
Steve will this trend of being hirny never end?Sorru just felt I had to toss that out.No I am down having a pair of Odeon Tosca horns from late 90's which also have doped paper cones.To be it would be interesting to look at various materials and see whether they always produce certain sound.One would think that with Stats,Planars etc.But the quality of my sound I think is less to do with driver that the x-over execution below.Maybe even more I'd like to know why this speaker is less or that Klipsch sound ("bite" maybe good but some would say "shrill" or "harsh").Still my speakers I referred to as "Poor Man's Avantgardes" because most people know the Klipsch sound and some like it others think it is either harsh or "cuppy".It would be interesting to to know the differences and implementation of compression and non-compression,folded etc in this realm.My problem is I like a lot of attributes and one thing I like about KEF is the imaging which I assume is aided primarily by it it's coaxial design.That's one thing you didn't seem tp go into here was imaging depth,width etc,But yes Triangle was in France and they were as ubiquitous as JBL/Harmon in the States and B&W everywhere' Like to here these two and toss in pair of Revel and SVS's
Minimum 8” Driver in my world...
Transmission line Rega Naos here too. The extra efficiency with an 8inch paper/cellulose driver allows for using a 35w tube amp :-)
well, I pretty much agree, speakers should be more full range not the almost universal now ' designed for a Sub' ( while admitting the sub trend is actually a good design, espec. for style IF Ya want unobtrusive main spks. I prefer old school.) I think 2 6.5 spks move as much air as a ten in. sub, properly designed. prime example, Polk LS 3 SHOULD have been and I think Polk easily could have designed them for stronger low bass - I'm talking what I think is low E on electric bass, is it 42 hz, and is kick drum usually tuned to mid 40's as well ? I'm thinking music not movie explosions of course.
Good grief listen to the street noise in his apt!
NY = URP!!!!!!!!!
NYC, summer, windows open... no way to escape it.
@Steve Tllsdaleys Trump is a New Yorker..
@Steve Tllsdaleys You know you're crazy wen you drag aggressively biased politics into a conversation that had *literally nothing to do with politics*. Ignore the obvious troll folks.
@Steve Tllsdaleys Riiiiight. Try trolling harder, troll, it's pretty transparent right now.
@Steve Tllsdaleys Pretty much. We all think you're a joke; can't even troll well.
I'm truly sorry but I disagree about amps and or power. Just a Yamaha 100 wpc/rms reciever.
That's all the power and clarity you need. And that particular reciever is only about $130 bucks on Amazon.
It's old school class A/B amp.
And damn inexpensive.
That speaker SCREAMS French. Gorgeous.
Stick with KEF. The Triangles you’ll be stuck with if you don’t like them (thin secondary market). Because rarely does one buy and keep stereo gear.
Speak fer yerself, bub!
I've had my rig since the mid 1990's, and it just keeps sounding better.
Yes, I will replace it eventually, but I'm still happy with it for now.
Hare deLune Bub still says no to the triangles. Yard sale has plenty in it already.
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That's fine. I just wanted to point out that not everyone is smitten with upgrad-itus.
At least, not all the time...
check out the used market, hard to find.
5" can't WOOF, it mumbles.
15" can WOOF!
Two words.. room size...
One word...subwoofer....
true BUT one symbol - $
I think we've just gone a little too far with the Condensing theme... Lol
Careful. Some speakers are all hat and no cattle.
I would prefer less word and more music.Thanks.
Yes me too
no surprise the ls50 were one of the worst speakers I
ever owned so overrated .
What didn't you like about them? I feel similarly about the Klipsch RP600M. I always thought that they sounded dry and thin. I'm considering a plethora of speakers, and I live in France. So the Triangle Titus EZ is 1/2 the price of the LS50 Meta
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q they have a bright in your face sound way too forward for me try a pair of Atc sm11 or 19
@@user-xg6zz8qs3q not really the RAF were trying to shoot down the bombers while being attacked by fighters at the same time
@@justinparkman3585 Alright. Personally, I don't find the Klipsch RP600M too bright. It's just the dry anemic sound I dislike with indie/acoustic music. But they sound awesome with female pop and hip hop.
It's rubbish, it's soft dull dead warm laidback and dark.
Klipsch are way better.
Klipsch give you a headache after 20 minutes, though. Fatiguing.
No!