Started playing 40k in June 2021 with Daemons/CSM and this new book has been really hard to wrap my head around. Your videos have really helped break down synergies for different legions and I super appreciate it since the new CSM book does not have a lot of obvious ways to score when a noob like me reads it front to back lol
So, I know I said on a previous video that I prefer these master classes to the "combo" video you did for the Iron Legion, and that's true, I do. But it looks like the combo video was almost twice as successful as the master classes. So if you can find the time to do both, then that would probably drive your channel growth considerably more. Keep up the great work!
there is no chance I will be able to do both lol. Im starting a new Job this week so I will likely struggle to get one episode done per week going forward
I actually took this list with slight modification to our local league. Changed one possessed unit to chosen. Thank you! Real good content! Loved your segment at Art of War 💪
Honestly love the videos being fiddling with a creations list for a few weeks so this has been helpful. Slannesh definitely works with this legion if choose core and icons can become deadly
Always nice to see a Masterclass for one of my favourite legion mostly because it makes melee armies sweat each time they charge a creation of bile unit. I like having some warp talons just for the fact that they can lock units with them and score some points. For Mr Fabulous, I totaly agree witht he fact that if I want a punchy character, I would go for a master of executions. There is too many competition in the HQ slots for him like you said. I find out there's also a bunch of things missing in his abilities so it'll not be there only for his special rule (which is difficult to use several times and work on the most buffable units in the codex if you decide to not give them some of those, so maybe on list with cheap legionaires when you didn't take the cultists instead). The things I miss are 1) Being a chaos lord in his own legion 2) Why can't he count like having the three abilities for "the masters are watching" stratagem 3) He's only a selfish healer with his chirurgeon (like he like to enchance them but not making them live longer, even if it'll just against range attacks and he'll be selfish in melee) I am also glad to hear someone else thinking that relics to make command points are not a thing for nephilim. Paying a cp to get more is a big gamble but paying points for a character who have an ability/spell/chant this is the real thing.
Really cool. Got a sub as well as a like for this vid. I think you are highly intelligent and you give out some good advise. You also have the ability to communicate smart ideas simply, which is really golden. Looking forward to going through some of your other vids and well done on this one :)
With the nerf on warptime i can see the set up strategy on turn 1 to brutalize on turn 2 approach but also not being able to charge on warp time seems too much restriction personally Definitely will have to play around with it though
Haha thanks mate, we are growing steady but it is hard to keep up with the bigger channels, I have to work 50hr a week in a warehouse just to pay bills, leaves very little time for content creation
@@BlogForTheBloodGod I know, I feel you, I’m a corrections officer that works 12 hour days at a prison without A/C. Between that and other person stuff going on in my life I barely make time for Wargaming, but between it, Church, and the gym it helps me keep my mind off the rough parts of life.
@@BlogForTheBloodGod yeah, for sure, I’m model buying based off of some of your stratagem lists on each episodes about each Legion. I’m still debating about what Legion I wanna run. I am going to get the new world eaters stuff when it all comes out though. I just got done painting up Kharne! Now I’m going to get the Combat Patrol, and Angron whenever they come out.
Thanks for the great content! I am new to 40k and want to start a CSM list, but I am in doubt if i want to play NL, WB, CoB or RC. Is this still a strong list in 10th edition ? :)
Hello my fellow 🇦🇺 ! I am a beginner in the 40K I have ordered the new csm codex also the new combat patrol ! Do I need the psychic awakening book ? Or does the new codex have that in it ? Also is the new combat patrol ok for a bile starter army ? Cheers bro 🍺
I was looking for a explanation of this subfaction in preperation for Risky Rollers and what do you know, you've outed yourself beforehand! CoB seem awesome
Small correction, you do have access to Fight Last via Dark Apostle - Litany of Despair. Just not a guranteed Fight Last. But 3D6 give you an average of 10.5, so it is pretty reliable.
Well, the Apostle needs to move forward anyway, since he wants to let Slaneesh Units Advance and Charge :D. I used the combo twice with great success so far. Getting my Slaneesh demon prince who fights first advance and charge against a Silent King, who I made fight last basically won me a game vs Necrons.
CoB might be the best combat army in the game rn. I feel like Banners could definitely be higher. I mean, like you said, what army wants to fight into CoB? I think it's a pretty easy 10 as long as you don't start throwing units away. I think you could make a list that forgoes the Psykers entirely to get Abhor as an option, but it hurts to lose the option to smite. But something like Tzeentch marked Terminators in a list with no Psykers (the irony) could simulate the tankiness of Slaanesh marked Terminators with the FNP while also gaining some better shooting. It is a gangster legion trait. Great video! I would give honorable mentions to Venomcrawlers which go up to S8 and offer some shooting and Chosen who go up to strength 6. You could even mark Chosen with Slaanesh to get fights first for some real melee proficiency.
@@rustyshackleford3078 it will be posted on the Risky Rollers youtube channel as they were kind enough to have me on as a guest. I will probably do a summary/highlights reel on my channel too
Like your work 1 question about this build… a creations of bile needs fabious bile as warlord according to the warhammer build app and some online sources (webpage not comments) and Abaddon is required to be the Warlord if you take him. How are you able to take Abbadon and not Bile
@@BlogForTheBloodGod thank you! You are right and the description story page in the codex for Fabious says “ Biles creations are ultimately perfected for a paying Chaos Lord”… the app gives an error marker and a goonhammer article stated you had to take him. Thanks again (and for the work on the channel)
I do prefere the summarised videos, but I liked this one!!! Creations of vile offers a lot of kitbashing options, and it's backed up by some nice rules!!!! Could you do Alpha legion next????
Can’t wait till you get to alpha legion. Ik they aren’t the best legion but they are my favorite and would love to know some more ideas on how to make them work
@@BlogForTheBloodGod I dropped a Heavy Flamer and instead of zerks added chosen with MoK and Icon...the extra bolters and wounds make them worth it over zerks + they keep the legion trait
I picked CoB instantly as my Slaanesh band proxy. EC are really strong but I wanted them to focus on noise marines which is not exactly how they operate now. So CoB jumped at me as a cool alternative choice. My question is - how do you use possessed in the list? There is no real way to buff their rolls, aside from maybe prescience. Do you just hope for the best when they charge? Or are they only skirmishing with small units on the side of the board?
I offer more detailed and personalised advice on my patreon if you are interested: www.patreon.com/BlogForTheBloodGod With that said they are more used to harass and push small units around, at 140pts they trade up quite well
Erm, the Daemon Prince only has one psychic cast. I don't think he can do an action and then cast a psychic even if he uses that great sorceror strategem. Can he? @_@ Does it work that way? Does he actually gain one psychic cast? I thought the intent of that strategem was to allow a normal Tzeentch psyker with two cast to do a psychic action and then cast one psychic.
The exact warp ritual plan you have can't work because you can't warptime the demon prince, only infantry or spawn. You can however warptime the terminators in front of him instead of warptiming the DP back
Oh wow you are right! I knew they ruined warptime by making it so you couldn't charge after but didn't realise they ruined it for Daemon Princes as well. So lame
Warptime on the Terminators to launch them forwards is fine as that still let's them protect the DP, in fact it is probably better as it gets your Terminators up the field faster instead of pulling you DP back. Thanks for the comment ;)
I think your concept list may be illegal due to the mere mortals rule requiring at least 3 core infantry units. I only see 2, the Terminators and the Raptors.
@@BlogForTheBloodGod No worries 👍 Edit: Some thoughts, could delete a terminator to convert one of the cultists units to accursed, though then you'd only be allowed to have one heavy weapon with the termies.
Battle scribe says I'm spot on 2000pts. As for the cultists, I misread the Core part if the infantry restriction. Swap some possesed for chosen and you are good to go
Started playing 40k in June 2021 with Daemons/CSM and this new book has been really hard to wrap my head around. Your videos have really helped break down synergies for different legions and I super appreciate it since the new CSM book does not have a lot of obvious ways to score when a noob like me reads it front to back lol
Ive really been enjoying your masterclass series! Keep it up.
Thanks mate, I'll do my best
Watched all the new content. Super great. This channel is so slept on for chaos content. Buy now
Hahaha thanks mate
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - PROs and CONs
2:26 - Legion Trait
4:30 - Unique Secondary Objective
7:11 - Warlord Traits
11:48 - Relics
16:55 - Strategems
22:30 - Army List Concepts
31:43 - Secondary Selection for above list
43:53 - Fabius Bile Datasheet
49:42 - Summary and Outro
51:30 - Objective Marker Infommercial
So, I know I said on a previous video that I prefer these master classes to the "combo" video you did for the Iron Legion, and that's true, I do. But it looks like the combo video was almost twice as successful as the master classes. So if you can find the time to do both, then that would probably drive your channel growth considerably more. Keep up the great work!
there is no chance I will be able to do both lol. Im starting a new Job this week so I will likely struggle to get one episode done per week going forward
@@BlogForTheBloodGod Best of luck to you in your new job!
I actually took this list with slight modification to our local league. Changed one possessed unit to chosen. Thank you! Real good content! Loved your segment at Art of War 💪
Looking forward to your Iron Warriors video. I have been a fan of them for years.
Thank you for the content.
Once again great job. Thank you for the video!
Thank you for the feedback! It is always appreciated
Great video again dude
Best 40 things on the internet these days!!!!
-Totally not a Skin-yellow Colored Greater Brass Scorpion
Excellent video, I am building my CoB forces up right now so awesome timing as well.
Thanks mate! Glad you enjoyed it!
Honestly love the videos being fiddling with a creations list for a few weeks so this has been helpful.
Slannesh definitely works with this legion if choose core and icons can become deadly
Thanks mate :)
Always nice to see a Masterclass for one of my favourite legion mostly because it makes melee armies sweat each time they charge a creation of bile unit. I like having some warp talons just for the fact that they can lock units with them and score some points.
For Mr Fabulous, I totaly agree witht he fact that if I want a punchy character, I would go for a master of executions. There is too many competition in the HQ slots for him like you said. I find out there's also a bunch of things missing in his abilities so it'll not be there only for his special rule (which is difficult to use several times and work on the most buffable units in the codex if you decide to not give them some of those, so maybe on list with cheap legionaires when you didn't take the cultists instead). The things I miss are 1) Being a chaos lord in his own legion 2) Why can't he count like having the three abilities for "the masters are watching" stratagem 3) He's only a selfish healer with his chirurgeon (like he like to enchance them but not making them live longer, even if it'll just against range attacks and he'll be selfish in melee)
I am also glad to hear someone else thinking that relics to make command points are not a thing for nephilim. Paying a cp to get more is a big gamble but paying points for a character who have an ability/spell/chant this is the real thing.
Really cool. Got a sub as well as a like for this vid. I think you are highly intelligent and you give out some good advise. You also have the ability to communicate smart ideas simply, which is really golden. Looking forward to going through some of your other vids and well done on this one :)
Also as I design clothes for a living, got to say super awesome top! :)
Just a quick note, daemon prince have the lord of chaos aura. The master is watching does have good utility.
These are great, can’t wait for word bearers
this is gonna be the most underrated army in 40k
With the nerf on warptime i can see the set up strategy on turn 1 to brutalize on turn 2 approach but also not being able to charge on warp time seems too much restriction personally
Definitely will have to play around with it though
Chirurgeon - K'eye-rer-jun (the rer bit to be said like the start of rum, but ending on an r instead of an m)
once again - a great lesson on the legion!!
What an absolute unit
Love ya brother Bile!!
I just wanna tell you that you deserve more than just 3.72 subscribers. Your channel is every bit as good as Auspex Teactics, or Cinderfall Gaming.
Haha thanks mate, we are growing steady but it is hard to keep up with the bigger channels, I have to work 50hr a week in a warehouse just to pay bills, leaves very little time for content creation
@@BlogForTheBloodGod I know, I feel you, I’m a corrections officer that works 12 hour days at a prison without A/C. Between that and other person stuff going on in my life I barely make time for Wargaming, but between it, Church, and the gym it helps me keep my mind off the rough parts of life.
@@chalkdemon8019 absolutely, what's the point of working 50 hours a week if you don't have something you are passionate about to do when you get home
@@BlogForTheBloodGod yeah, for sure, I’m model buying based off of some of your stratagem lists on each episodes about each Legion. I’m still debating about what Legion I wanna run. I am going to get the new world eaters stuff when it all comes out though. I just got done painting up Kharne! Now I’m going to get the Combat Patrol, and Angron whenever they come out.
@@chalkdemon8019 deciding on a Legion is very hard as they are all great in their own ways.
Thanks for the great content! I am new to 40k and want to start a CSM list, but I am in doubt if i want to play NL, WB, CoB or RC.
Is this still a strong list in 10th edition ? :)
10th has changed a lot but the core of CSM is still strong
hello :) great vid thx for the approach! Could you think if you swith Lord disco than Deamon prince still ok?
I'm actually planning a video explaining when and why to take a DP and when and why to take a disco. They fill very similar roles in many lists
@@BlogForTheBloodGod Nice im looping forward this vidéo with :p
Hello my fellow 🇦🇺 ! I am a beginner in the 40K I have ordered the new csm codex also the new combat patrol ! Do I need the psychic awakening book ? Or does the new codex have that in it ? Also is the new combat patrol ok for a bile starter army ?
Cheers bro 🍺
Welcome mate! The new codex has everything you will need, no need to pick up Psychic Awakening unless you want the lore and artwork :)
@@BlogForTheBloodGod cheers brudda 👍🍺🍺🍺🇦🇺
I was looking for a explanation of this subfaction in preperation for Risky Rollers and what do you know, you've outed yourself beforehand! CoB seem awesome
Hahaha I like to share my lists before events so there is no confusion or gotcha moments
Is there any ruling on how a CoB fight on death with changed characteristics (lets say maulerfiend) works with Blasphemous Machines strat active?
Small correction, you do have access to Fight Last via Dark Apostle - Litany of Despair. Just not a guranteed Fight Last. But 3D6 give you an average of 10.5, so it is pretty reliable.
Problem with despair is you have to be within 12" in the command phase OR spend 2CP. Then roll over their LD. That's lame AF
Well, the Apostle needs to move forward anyway, since he wants to let Slaneesh Units Advance and Charge :D. I used the combo twice with great success so far. Getting my Slaneesh demon prince who fights first advance and charge against a Silent King, who I made fight last basically won me a game vs Necrons.
What are the shelves behind him? They look awesome
Ikea Billy bookshelves
CoB might be the best combat army in the game rn.
I feel like Banners could definitely be higher. I mean, like you said, what army wants to fight into CoB? I think it's a pretty easy 10 as long as you don't start throwing units away.
I think you could make a list that forgoes the Psykers entirely to get Abhor as an option, but it hurts to lose the option to smite. But something like Tzeentch marked Terminators in a list with no Psykers (the irony) could simulate the tankiness of Slaanesh marked Terminators with the FNP while also gaining some better shooting.
It is a gangster legion trait. Great video!
I would give honorable mentions to Venomcrawlers which go up to S8 and offer some shooting and Chosen who go up to strength 6. You could even mark Chosen with Slaanesh to get fights first for some real melee proficiency.
All very good points.
@@BlogForTheBloodGod btw where will the WE's report end up?
@@rustyshackleford3078 it will be posted on the Risky Rollers youtube channel as they were kind enough to have me on as a guest. I will probably do a summary/highlights reel on my channel too
Like your work 1 question about this build… a creations of bile needs fabious bile as warlord according to the warhammer build app and some online sources (webpage not comments) and Abaddon is required to be the Warlord if you take him. How are you able to take Abbadon and not Bile
Nowhere in the Chaos Space Marine Codex does it say you must take Fabius
@@BlogForTheBloodGod thank you! You are right and the description story page in the codex for Fabious says “ Biles creations are ultimately perfected for a paying Chaos Lord”… the app gives an error marker and a goonhammer article stated you had to take him. Thanks again (and for the work on the channel)
@@usgcod678 no wukkas mate :)
I do prefere the summarised videos, but I liked this one!!! Creations of vile offers a lot of kitbashing options, and it's backed up by some nice rules!!!! Could you do Alpha legion next????
My Patreon supporters chose the order of my releases. You can sign up for only $1 per month here www.patreon.com/BlogForTheBloodGod
@@BlogForTheBloodGod U have been making my thays better, I am in :D
Can’t wait till you get to alpha legion. Ik they aren’t the best legion but they are my favorite and would love to know some more ideas on how to make them work
They are next on my list, just need to find time to record
I think this made me change from BL to Creations
BL are also very very good
whats the third core infantry that allows the third cultist mob for the first list you showed?
I have since updated the list to swap one unit of possesed for a unit of Berzerkers
@@BlogForTheBloodGod I dropped a Heavy Flamer and instead of zerks added chosen with MoK and Icon...the extra bolters and wounds make them worth it over zerks + they keep the legion trait
Red corsairs masterclass coming soon?
It's currently 50:50 votes on patreon to see if they are next
I picked CoB instantly as my Slaanesh band proxy. EC are really strong but I wanted them to focus on noise marines which is not exactly how they operate now. So CoB jumped at me as a cool alternative choice.
My question is - how do you use possessed in the list? There is no real way to buff their rolls, aside from maybe prescience. Do you just hope for the best when they charge? Or are they only skirmishing with small units on the side of the board?
I offer more detailed and personalised advice on my patreon if you are interested:
www.patreon.com/BlogForTheBloodGod
With that said they are more used to harass and push small units around, at 140pts they trade up quite well
Can you cast warptime on a demon price?
No, he casts it on the Terminators to bring them up in front of him
Erm, the Daemon Prince only has one psychic cast. I don't think he can do an action and then cast a psychic even if he uses that great sorceror strategem. Can he? @_@ Does it work that way? Does he actually gain one psychic cast? I thought the intent of that strategem was to allow a normal Tzeentch psyker with two cast to do a psychic action and then cast one psychic.
With the tzeenth strat he can do an action and cast one spell.
The exact warp ritual plan you have can't work because you can't warptime the demon prince, only infantry or spawn. You can however warptime the terminators in front of him instead of warptiming the DP back
Oh wow you are right! I knew they ruined warptime by making it so you couldn't charge after but didn't realise they ruined it for Daemon Princes as well. So lame
Warptime on the Terminators to launch them forwards is fine as that still let's them protect the DP, in fact it is probably better as it gets your Terminators up the field faster instead of pulling you DP back.
Thanks for the comment ;)
Mm, Warptime the terminators potentially leaves the juicy characters behind
I think your concept list may be illegal due to the mere mortals rule requiring at least 3 core infantry units. I only see 2, the Terminators and the Raptors.
Yeah this was addressed in another comment, I need to do a corrections comment and pin it.
@@BlogForTheBloodGod No worries 👍
Edit: Some thoughts, could delete a terminator to convert one of the cultists units to accursed, though then you'd only be allowed to have one heavy weapon with the termies.
The list is 25 points over and you can't bring that many cultists.
Battle scribe says I'm spot on 2000pts.
As for the cultists, I misread the Core part if the infantry restriction. Swap some possesed for chosen and you are good to go
Abbadon in a bile list is not fluffy and not in any way an emp children list ether
well its tourney not fluff
Thats fine just don’t call it what it isn’t , it’s a black legion list
@@robertstrong6798 lol ONE model in BL. Calling in BL because of one guy ignores the ratio
That one model is the leader of the army lol 😂
Yeah, he is leading a Creations of Bile Army.