I've driven both when shopping used (key point here when they are comparatively priced, it is easier to decide). I choose Volvo because: Issues I kept hearing about with a Volvo vs a Hyundai seemed better. Dealership experience went to Volvo on the sales side. We will see about service but I have experience with Hyundai service on the ICE side and it wasn't great. I preferred the infotainment in the Volvo and loved the HK soundsystem. Felt the design was slightly better on the Volvo and the build quality seemed sturdier here as well. Driving dynamics: Volvo by a slim margin. I would like to choose my regen on the fly, but recently learned I can update that by asking google to do it instead of touching anything. Suspension and steering seemed tighter and firmer in the Volvo vs a SEL.
Great comparisons loved the Harmon sound system. I take it Hyundai doesn't offer service vehicles like Volvo does? On the other hand, Ioniq is so reliable and EVS require very little service so that may be a moot point. Suspension in Volvo is definitely stiffer, to the point where I didn't enjoy the ride. I'd be curious to see what the skidpad is in both vehicles, I would guess the Ioniq can take the corners just as aggressively as the volvo without the stiff ride.
I would take the XC40 because that Google-based system letting you know the destination battery percentage is huge. I can't imagine having any road trip anxiety at all especially once getting Tesla access. I don't need the faster charging. A 30 to 40 minute stop after a couple hours of driving is fine by me.
It's definitely a big selling point for both this, Polestars, and others like GM models that include native Google. Also helpful for new EV drivers, such as those getting a rental. I love hearing more realistic travel plans, too... I can't remember the last time I did more than three hours of driving and didn't want to take a break, whether it's ICE, PHEV, or BEV!
I have had one for a year .. it is excellent. Never had to charge for more than 30minutes. The Google system is incredible - probably the best after Tesla
@@mdshovel I'd put the Google UI ahead of Tesla, personally. Google Maps is significantly better and there's a growing home ecosystem to plug into that Tesla can't replicate (yet). Tesla's primary strength is the vertical integration with Superchargers, which makes route planning a much more in-depth and reliable experience for Tesla drivers.
I own a Kia EV6, and I can confirm that when using the onboard navigation, it provides the destination battery percentage. Furthermore, it preconditions the battery when you're navigating to a DC fast charger.
Glad it's just as accurate in the Polestars (not sure why it wouldn't be, but you never know!) I haven't had the pleasure of road tripping a PS2 but with so many entering the rental fleet, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with one in the not-too-distant future. Thanks for watching!
One thing people always miss out ... when can you get one. I trawled around and tested several vehicles and got an XC40 on a work lease within 3 weeks. That was a year ago - I had tried to get an Ioniq5 but was quoted 18months. So I have been driving the very good XC40 for a whole year whilst I would still be waiting another 6 months for the Ioniq 5
Where are you based? Ioniq 5 and 6 are now well stocked at most dealerships I've encountered around the eastern US, but I know Canadian buyers have long had supply delays.
@@mdshovel Ah, gotcha. I visit relatively often but don't monitor the ebb and flow of inventory there, so it's good to know what's happening on the ground, cheers 👍
We recently bought a 0 km 1 year old XC40 recharge. As we have been driving Volvo for more than 16 years and wanted to convert to an electric car we chose this one as it offered a great discount of 25%. We are really happy with it and I agree regarding the comments on the XC40R with the review in the video. I have no experience with the Ionic 5 but don’t really like the design.
Thanks for your ownership story. There's a lot of potential to bring brand-loyal drivers into an EV, which is why it's important to have multiple electric models at all levels. With the EX30 and EX90 following the XC/C40 to market, it's clear to see Volvo gets that.
@@kentao4 If you happen to still be looking, I just picked up a CPO 2021 with 34k miles for $24.9k. Fully loaded. Even has the towing package. Listed for $30k. Got the dealer to go just under $25k to qualify for the used ev tax credit.
A couple other benefits of the Google Android Automotive would be the integration with Google Home and Google Assistant. Once you start using those products, you find them essential to pleasurable driving.
Thanks, Warren. We do have a Google home ecosystem and would love to hook the car's activities up to that. What kind of applications have you found for it?
@@plugandplayEV When I am driving home, I use GAA to tap into my Google Home based systems. They include, Philips Hue for both interior and exterior lighting, Nest thermostats, B&O speakers and Spotify. As I approach my driveway, the lights are on, inside temperature is set to my preference and smooth jazz is playing on my B&O speakers. The only GAA limitation currently is the inability to link commands via "routines". You must tell Google assistant each command, rather than saying, "Hey Google, make my home comfy" or whatever title you select for your "routine". I use that capability almost every day. By the way, Google Assistant is extremely snappy and accurate. These systems all play together really well!!
On practical basis the Ioniq 5 is the clear winner based on range and charging speed. It's also quite a bit bigger at 182.5 inches to the 174.8 inches in the Volvo. The Google system sounds nice, but I like that the Hyundai still has physical controls for climate. There are a lot more 5's to choose from around here, so a much better chance of getting a deal I'd say. I'd like to see what the Volvo drives like, but I've been impressed by the Ioniq as I've driven it a few times.
The XC40R feels stiffer than the IONIQ 5, which is a more floaty ride. Cornering in the Volvo felt a bit sharper but I think the I5 puts down the power more evenly at lower speeds, so it's easier to modulate and come out of corners smoothly. The XC40R delivers its kick around 30-40mph, which gives it a bit more oomph when overtaking on the Interstate. Both offer more than enough power, but I think for comfort the I5 wins out, whereas the XC40R is a bit more precise in its overall handling.
Well said, over here $169/mo for base model, $199 for mid, $299 for limited per month lease. Volvo is guestimating me at around $529 with 5k down. Not that great.
This is a great video! I test drove both cars back to back. The seats in the Volvo felt a bit more comfortable to me then the Ioniq, but the ride was stiffer. The tech in the volvo is eons behind the ionic, for example when having adaptive cruise control on it does NOT slow down when you're getting on an interchange ramp. The rated speed of the ramp was 35mph around the corner, I had the adaptive set at 75. and it almost took the corner at 75, but I quickly applied brake. No wireless carplay in the Volvo. I guess I've been spoiled with Tesla, which has all the tech right, but none of the creature comforts. The Harmon sound system in the Volvo REALLY rocks, the Bose one in the Ioniq is good too, I'm wondering what you thought about both of the sound systems?
Thanks! I enjoyed the Volvo H-K system very much. Deep, satisfying sound for my musical preferences (beats-based stuff like trip hop/lo-fi and hard/alt rock, for me). Ioniq 5 had disappointing sound even with the upgraded Bose system initially, although I believe a software update has improved it somewhat. Sounds since an OTA in 2023 are a little richer, but it's still not on the level of the XC40 Recharge system, in my opinion.
Hi Steve , your Lawrence video popped up on my tv . I was interested as I have a 2015 Leaf and I also lived in Newburyport for 2 years but Iam now back in the Uk . I don’t get much range from my leaf but it suits me as I don’t do motorway driving. The only problem I have is my radio sat nav screen has stopped working so will have to source one of those in the future . Did you go there for work like my husband it’s a lovely part of the USA . We live in Derbyshire most of the Ev outlets are in the large cities like Nottingham Birmingham etc and are still very expensive. I enjoy driving my leaf so will stick with it for now and keep watching the videos ❤ Margaret. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you, Margaret, that's a fascinating journey and very close to us! My wife is from Ohio but we eventually landed in the Boston area for her work, so we're settled here now. We particularly enjoy Newburyport for summer beach trips and the small town vibe around Christmas. I have some videos coming up on the original Leaf, so hopefully those will be of interest. It's a great entry-level EV for local duties... and if you never hit the Motorway, I expect it's almost ideal! Thanks again for watching.
Hey Steve - nice comparative review...however...the I5 is a way better looking car! I love the interior space and as for roadtripping the I5 is a winner! We are just sitting here in Palm Desert at the Marriott for a week. Yesterday was day 10 of our road trip, 5350 KM, 22 charging stops and only 1 minor issue in Las Vegas where an EA charger would not activate and we had to wait for 10 whole minutes! I can safely say the infrastructure as we found it is not the major disaster some You Tube pundits claim it is! Our favorite charging stop was the EA station in Baker California...we did not feel like outsiders...there were other EV owners there and all the stations appeared to be fully operational. Our only issue was the I5 charged so fast we were on our way too quickly! 😂 The I5 is performing flawlessly and super comfortable. Efficiencies have been pretty good as well, other than the huge headwinds we bucked all the way across Northern Texas and New Mexico. So, we have about another 9000km to go but this week is just going to be Winery tours and poolside living in 80 degrees and Sunshine! Cheers and have a great day! Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Thanks Mike and Ally, I tend to agree! I do like the Volvo's rear end more than the I5, and the hammer lights up front are cool, but the I5 doesn't lack in that department either thanks to the pixels. On the trip report, we really need to add that to the conversation on the fortnightly livestream. We drive a lot, but I don't think any of us cover as much ground as you two! Definitely shoot me an email at plugandplayev@gmail.com if you have the time and inclination to join.
@plugandplayEV would love to, kind of depends on dates and where we are. We just got back from a run to the Temecula Wine region about a 300km round trip from here, Palm Desert, heading toward Santa Barbara on Monday then working our way up the coast highway to Oregon! So not sure when your next Livestream is but will shoot you an e mail over the next couple days! Actually saw a couple Volvo's here and parked beside one, nice looking vehicle but I really do prefer the I5. Have seen a couple Lucid Airs here and they are gorgeous....and of course, a parade of Tesla's. Anyway, cold beer is calling and a warm pool for an evening swim! 😁 Cheers Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Absolutely! Native is significantly better, even absent me logging into my own Google profile. With that hooked up, I can only imagine it would be close to the ideal ecosystem.
Hello and thanks for good tests. These two electric cars are among the most relevant for my wife and me, and are leaning most towards the Volvo after the importent last range upgrade. We are in the sixties and have a couple of grand children. My wife haven't retired yet, and I have recently retired, but I have promised to do some engineering there I first need to collect some ground-datas, and would like at least a capacity of 1800 kg for trailerweight on 1700 kg, on a aprox 200 km long towing trips. If I should use a car like Ionic 5, I had to slim down the equipment I'm bringing for the investigations with less than 1700 kg towingcapasity in Norway. We also need good ground clerance and awd for som difficult conditions near the projects. In Norway we have speedlimit for such trailers at 80 km/h. These roads are in some limited conditions, and we need a car with wltp range at more than 500 km for a decent towing range, and a range at 400 km at the same 200 km towing roads to make this trips possible with towing without a everytime need of extra charging stops. Until I retired we used a Toyota LC 150 for this, and have slimmed down the towing weight from 2500 - 3500 kg down to 1700 kg with less equipment to make this possible. It's not a lot of ev's in the right price range and capable in addition to XC40. This towing can be tough, maybe we have to use a plugin hybrid which would cover my wifes daily driving. Thanks😊😊.
Great comparison. Nice to watch a "nuts and bolts" review that focuses on the important points. If I were Volvo, I would have added reclining seats in the back. The seats are too upright. Also, a 40/20/40 folding rear seat would be far better than that tiny passthrough that cannot fit much. Otherwise, a great car. BTW: What rental company has XC40 Recharges?
The Ioniq 5 is remarkably well-insulated, given the lower price segment in which it operates. I'd say road noise is slightly less in the Hyundai but it does have more audible rattles than the Volvo, which definitely felt better put together. The limited wind and rain we drove in both felt more or less the same.
We just got the I5 nav update over the air this week, so will have to test it out again. The functionality definitely looks better, especially with winter approaching and the need to use it for battery conditioning, but the UI remains inferior to Google Maps and Android-based systems, imo.
I suppose it boils down to your use case. My wife and I are road trippers, so it's be the Ionic 5 for us due to the faster charging. Also it costs less which is important.
Thanks, Tom. I think the costs align when you hit the top trim of the IONIQ 5 and the middle of the XC40 Recharge, both of which would be similarly equipped. But you're absolutely right that I5 buyers can drive off spending $10K less if they opt for an SE trim model. Lease deals and the included tax incentive that brings with it also make them more affordable, so it does become a pricing decision at that level, for sure.
Nice comparison, Steve! It’s not one I’ve seen made so it’s cool to ponder the two, especially on the same trip. Hate to say it, but I think I’d probably take the XC40. Despite the bigger cabin size, superior cockpit ergonomics, and much faster charging, the Volvo’s Android infotainment system is a nicer OS to use than Hyundai’s. The shorter range isn’t a big deal for trips of 300 miles or less and the charge port will make it easy to slot in at Superchargers.
Thanks, I thought it was interesting to ponder two automakers at very different ends of the spectrum, but both of which seem to have landed on $50-60K EVs (albeit top trim vs. lower trim). I totally understand the infotainment priority. Hyundai's is rather dated at this point and it's a big piece of the driving experience. Android Auto closes the gap, but not for route planning and entertainment. But we have people in the back most of the time and long trips, so the I5 is always where I'd land personally.
Recent convert here - honestly, after driving with android auto, I wouldn't go with anything else other than a Tesla. The range estimations on the integrated google maps are spot-on to the point where if it says that I arrive with 10% charge, I really don't stress about getting there. I don't even care anymore about what the car estimates for the range, just battery percentage at arrival.
With the Android Auto integration, do you need a separate cellphone/data subscription to get access, or can you use your phone as a WiFi access point for it? Also, I prefer to keep my music library locally on my iPhone rather than using streaming services - how well does it work as a Bluetooth music player?
No, the car has its own connectivity so you can just log into whatever accounts you have or use it out of the box. In five days with the car, I didn't hook up my Android phone to it once. I use Spotify so I didn't test out the Bluetooth streaming quality, but based on everything else about the connectivity and system, I'd be surprised if it was anything other than smooth.
The connectivity is free for the first four years, after which it is supposed to be fee -based. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any sources confirming how much that would cost once the free package expires.
If you regularly have people in the back or drive those 4,000 km in one big chunk (long distance trips), the Ioniq 5 makes more sense due to space and fast charging. If it's just you and a front passenger and the miles you do are spread evenly over a month (for a commute or regional trips, say 500-600km), go for the additional premium of the XC40 Recharge.
I bought the XC40 recharge and it is a no go for long trip. The planificator is shit (it goes to out of service "pump") , the autonomy is limited (150km with a roof top) , the line assist is so dangerous.
I dislike lane assist in any vehicle but agree this would not be great for road trip to unknown parts. Great as a daily driver and normal trips....so 80-90% of the driving most people do. However if you have to, the best way to roadtrip this car is to keep the SOC between 20%-80% which is about 150 miles and take advantage of any DC superchargers along the route, level 2 for longer breaks.
IMHO, the Google Auto GOM is best in class at estimating destination SoC. As you mention, both in GM & Volvo family of cars. I am guessing Google assigned a team of PHD data scientist from their pool of ones they keep locked up in a back room to go full alien tech on it. Big disadvantage to the XC40 recharge is the dreaded turtle mode. argh!!! 🐢🐢🐢 Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Expensive staggered tire setup, low efficiency, ultra finicky infotainment, wobbly and bobbly ride, unnecessary proprietary wiper connectors, no V2L options and lesser (compared to the Ioniq 5) smart cruise control action made me return the lease on my XC40 over an Ioniq 5. It was a great first EV but there’s better options out there now.
Been driving an xc-40 recharge for over two years, and I gotta say, there are so many little glitches with the computer/app that I will never buy another Volvo. They clearly have little priority for the software and it's made an otherwise excellent car feel like hot garbage.
You'd need to create a Google account to get the most personalization, but Android Automotive is baked into the vehicle and so operates independently of your phone.
I'd agree on safety, for sure. Haven't tried the Volvo in snow or ice, but I will say the IONIQ 5 has impressed me in the snow and slush. Very capable adverse weather vehicle, at least in the AWD variant.
I think there's a broader sense that Volvos have more lux to them than a Hyundai, so buyers expect to pay more. The materials are certainly a cut above in the XC40 Recharge but whether that's with $10K+ is obviously debatable.
No brainer here. More room, better acceleration, yet more efficient. More range with faster charging. All at 5K less, just as premium feel. No wonder Ioniq5 won the European Car of the year
I think it comes down to Volvo's initially conservative specs. They peg the curent model at 4.9 seconds 0-60, where as independent tests frequently record mid 4 seconds. At the latter, you're quite right that it would beat the IONIQ 5 by a few points.
I've driven both when shopping used (key point here when they are comparatively priced, it is easier to decide). I choose Volvo because:
Issues I kept hearing about with a Volvo vs a Hyundai seemed better.
Dealership experience went to Volvo on the sales side. We will see about service but I have experience with Hyundai service on the ICE side and it wasn't great.
I preferred the infotainment in the Volvo and loved the HK soundsystem.
Felt the design was slightly better on the Volvo and the build quality seemed sturdier here as well.
Driving dynamics: Volvo by a slim margin. I would like to choose my regen on the fly, but recently learned I can update that by asking google to do it instead of touching anything. Suspension and steering seemed tighter and firmer in the Volvo vs a SEL.
Valuable insights from someone shopping both models. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Great comparisons loved the Harmon sound system. I take it Hyundai doesn't offer service vehicles like Volvo does? On the other hand, Ioniq is so reliable and EVS require very little service so that may be a moot point. Suspension in Volvo is definitely stiffer, to the point where I didn't enjoy the ride. I'd be curious to see what the skidpad is in both vehicles, I would guess the Ioniq can take the corners just as aggressively as the volvo without the stiff ride.
I would take the XC40 because that Google-based system letting you know the destination battery percentage is huge. I can't imagine having any road trip anxiety at all especially once getting Tesla access. I don't need the faster charging. A 30 to 40 minute stop after a couple hours of driving is fine by me.
It's definitely a big selling point for both this, Polestars, and others like GM models that include native Google. Also helpful for new EV drivers, such as those getting a rental. I love hearing more realistic travel plans, too... I can't remember the last time I did more than three hours of driving and didn't want to take a break, whether it's ICE, PHEV, or BEV!
I have had one for a year .. it is excellent. Never had to charge for more than 30minutes. The Google system is incredible - probably the best after Tesla
@@mdshovel I'd put the Google UI ahead of Tesla, personally. Google Maps is significantly better and there's a growing home ecosystem to plug into that Tesla can't replicate (yet). Tesla's primary strength is the vertical integration with Superchargers, which makes route planning a much more in-depth and reliable experience for Tesla drivers.
@@plugandplayEV I think the Tesla Navigation is actually built on Google Maps with Tesla mask
I own a Kia EV6, and I can confirm that when using the onboard navigation, it provides the destination battery percentage. Furthermore, it preconditions the battery when you're navigating to a DC fast charger.
Those range estimates are great. Recently drove the Polestar 2 again and it was spot on both directions.
Glad it's just as accurate in the Polestars (not sure why it wouldn't be, but you never know!) I haven't had the pleasure of road tripping a PS2 but with so many entering the rental fleet, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with one in the not-too-distant future. Thanks for watching!
One thing people always miss out ... when can you get one. I trawled around and tested several vehicles and got an XC40 on a work lease within 3 weeks. That was a year ago - I had tried to get an Ioniq5 but was quoted 18months. So I have been driving the very good XC40 for a whole year whilst I would still be waiting another 6 months for the Ioniq 5
Where are you based? Ioniq 5 and 6 are now well stocked at most dealerships I've encountered around the eastern US, but I know Canadian buyers have long had supply delays.
@@plugandplayEV I am in the UK.
@@mdshovel Ah, gotcha. I visit relatively often but don't monitor the ebb and flow of inventory there, so it's good to know what's happening on the ground, cheers 👍
We recently bought a 0 km 1 year old XC40 recharge. As we have been driving Volvo for more than 16 years and wanted to convert to an electric car we chose this one as it offered a great discount of 25%. We are really happy with it and I agree regarding the comments on the XC40R with the review in the video. I have no experience with the Ionic 5 but don’t really like the design.
Thanks for your ownership story. There's a lot of potential to bring brand-loyal drivers into an EV, which is why it's important to have multiple electric models at all levels. With the EX30 and EX90 following the XC/C40 to market, it's clear to see Volvo gets that.
Nice comparison, i bought the Ioniq5 and still loving to drive it.
For longer travelling it is the car in my opinion.
Thanks... and agreed!
I bought a used xc40 recharge CPO for $23k. Feels like a luxury rocket tank and does everything I need in style.
Nice ride and a great price for the premium feel. Glad you're loving it! ⚡🚀
How many miles were on it at purchase and what year? Looking to grab one possibly soon.
@@kentao4 If you happen to still be looking, I just picked up a CPO 2021 with 34k miles for $24.9k. Fully loaded. Even has the towing package. Listed for $30k. Got the dealer to go just under $25k to qualify for the used ev tax credit.
A couple other benefits of the Google Android Automotive would be the integration with Google Home and Google Assistant. Once you start using those products, you find them essential to pleasurable driving.
Thanks, Warren. We do have a Google home ecosystem and would love to hook the car's activities up to that. What kind of applications have you found for it?
@@plugandplayEV When I am driving home, I use GAA to tap into my Google Home based systems. They include, Philips Hue for both interior and exterior lighting, Nest thermostats, B&O speakers and Spotify. As I approach my driveway, the lights are on, inside temperature is set to my preference and smooth jazz is playing on my B&O speakers. The only GAA limitation currently is the inability to link commands via "routines". You must tell Google assistant each command, rather than saying, "Hey Google, make my home comfy" or whatever title you select for your "routine". I use that capability almost every day. By the way, Google Assistant is extremely snappy and accurate. These systems all play together really well!!
On practical basis the Ioniq 5 is the clear winner based on range and charging speed. It's also quite a bit bigger at 182.5 inches to the 174.8 inches in the Volvo. The Google system sounds nice, but I like that the Hyundai still has physical controls for climate. There are a lot more 5's to choose from around here, so a much better chance of getting a deal I'd say. I'd like to see what the Volvo drives like, but I've been impressed by the Ioniq as I've driven it a few times.
The XC40R feels stiffer than the IONIQ 5, which is a more floaty ride. Cornering in the Volvo felt a bit sharper but I think the I5 puts down the power more evenly at lower speeds, so it's easier to modulate and come out of corners smoothly. The XC40R delivers its kick around 30-40mph, which gives it a bit more oomph when overtaking on the Interstate. Both offer more than enough power, but I think for comfort the I5 wins out, whereas the XC40R is a bit more precise in its overall handling.
Well said, over here $169/mo for base model, $199 for mid, $299 for limited per month lease. Volvo is guestimating me at around $529 with 5k down. Not that great.
This is a great video! I test drove both cars back to back. The seats in the Volvo felt a bit more comfortable to me then the Ioniq, but the ride was stiffer. The tech in the volvo is eons behind the ionic, for example when having adaptive cruise control on it does NOT slow down when you're getting on an interchange ramp. The rated speed of the ramp was 35mph around the corner, I had the adaptive set at 75. and it almost took the corner at 75, but I quickly applied brake. No wireless carplay in the Volvo. I guess I've been spoiled with Tesla, which has all the tech right, but none of the creature comforts. The Harmon sound system in the Volvo REALLY rocks, the Bose one in the Ioniq is good too, I'm wondering what you thought about both of the sound systems?
Thanks! I enjoyed the Volvo H-K system very much. Deep, satisfying sound for my musical preferences (beats-based stuff like trip hop/lo-fi and hard/alt rock, for me). Ioniq 5 had disappointing sound even with the upgraded Bose system initially, although I believe a software update has improved it somewhat. Sounds since an OTA in 2023 are a little richer, but it's still not on the level of the XC40 Recharge system, in my opinion.
I really prefer the xc40 all the way…, great review and comparison.
Thanks for the preference and feedback! 👍
Hi Steve , your Lawrence video popped up on my tv . I was interested as I have a 2015 Leaf and I also lived in Newburyport for 2 years but Iam now back in the Uk . I don’t get much range from my leaf but it suits me as I don’t do motorway driving. The only problem I have is my radio sat nav screen has stopped working so will have to source one of those in the future .
Did you go there for work like my husband it’s a lovely part of the USA . We live in Derbyshire most of the Ev outlets are in the large cities like Nottingham Birmingham etc and are still very expensive. I enjoy driving my leaf so will stick with it for now and keep watching the videos ❤
Margaret. 🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you, Margaret, that's a fascinating journey and very close to us! My wife is from Ohio but we eventually landed in the Boston area for her work, so we're settled here now. We particularly enjoy Newburyport for summer beach trips and the small town vibe around Christmas.
I have some videos coming up on the original Leaf, so hopefully those will be of interest. It's a great entry-level EV for local duties... and if you never hit the Motorway, I expect it's almost ideal! Thanks again for watching.
Hey Steve - nice comparative review...however...the I5 is a way better looking car! I love the interior space and as for roadtripping the I5 is a winner!
We are just sitting here in Palm Desert at the Marriott for a week. Yesterday was day 10 of our road trip, 5350 KM, 22 charging stops and only 1 minor issue in Las Vegas where an EA charger would not activate and we had to wait for 10 whole minutes!
I can safely say the infrastructure as we found it is not the major disaster some You Tube pundits claim it is!
Our favorite charging stop was the EA station in Baker California...we did not feel like outsiders...there were other EV owners there and all the stations appeared to be fully operational. Our only issue was the I5 charged so fast we were on our way too quickly! 😂
The I5 is performing flawlessly and super comfortable. Efficiencies have been pretty good as well, other than the huge headwinds we bucked all the way across Northern Texas and New Mexico.
So, we have about another 9000km to go but this week is just going to be Winery tours and poolside living in 80 degrees and Sunshine!
Cheers and have a great day!
Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Thanks Mike and Ally, I tend to agree! I do like the Volvo's rear end more than the I5, and the hammer lights up front are cool, but the I5 doesn't lack in that department either thanks to the pixels.
On the trip report, we really need to add that to the conversation on the fortnightly livestream. We drive a lot, but I don't think any of us cover as much ground as you two! Definitely shoot me an email at plugandplayev@gmail.com if you have the time and inclination to join.
@plugandplayEV would love to, kind of depends on dates and where we are. We just got back from a run to the Temecula Wine region about a 300km round trip from here, Palm Desert, heading toward Santa Barbara on Monday then working our way up the coast highway to Oregon!
So not sure when your next Livestream is but will shoot you an e mail over the next couple days!
Actually saw a couple Volvo's here and parked beside one, nice looking vehicle but I really do prefer the I5. Have seen a couple Lucid Airs here and they are gorgeous....and of course, a parade of Tesla's.
Anyway, cold beer is calling and a warm pool for an evening swim! 😁
Cheers
Mike and Ally 🇨🇦
Thanks, Steve! So would you say that the loud voices complaining about GM's dropping Android Auto and Car Play are a bit overblown?
Absolutely! Native is significantly better, even absent me logging into my own Google profile. With that hooked up, I can only imagine it would be close to the ideal ecosystem.
Hello and thanks for good tests. These two electric cars are among the most relevant for my wife and me, and are leaning most towards the Volvo after the importent last range upgrade. We are in the sixties and have a couple of grand children. My wife haven't retired yet, and I have recently retired, but I have promised to do some engineering there I first need to collect some ground-datas, and would like at least a capacity of 1800 kg for trailerweight on 1700 kg, on a aprox 200 km long towing trips. If I should use a car like Ionic 5, I had to slim down the equipment I'm bringing for the investigations with less than 1700 kg towingcapasity in Norway. We also need good ground clerance and awd for som difficult conditions near the projects. In Norway we have speedlimit for such trailers at 80 km/h. These roads are in some limited conditions, and we need a car with wltp range at more than 500 km for a decent towing range, and a range at 400 km at the same 200 km towing roads to make this trips possible with towing without a everytime need of extra charging stops. Until I retired we used a Toyota LC 150 for this, and have slimmed down the towing weight from 2500 - 3500 kg down to 1700 kg with less equipment to make this possible.
It's not a lot of ev's in the right price range and capable in addition to XC40. This towing can be tough, maybe we have to use a plugin hybrid which would cover my wifes daily driving. Thanks😊😊.
Belated thanks for sharing your experience 🔋🙏
Great comparison. Nice to watch a "nuts and bolts" review that focuses on the important points. If I were Volvo, I would have added reclining seats in the back. The seats are too upright. Also, a 40/20/40 folding rear seat would be far better than that tiny passthrough that cannot fit much. Otherwise, a great car.
BTW: What rental company has XC40 Recharges?
Thanks! We got this on Turo. I think some Hertz locations offer Volvos, though, as well as a ton of Polestars.
How are the sound isolation capabilities between the two? Wind, tires, rain, etc.?
The Ioniq 5 is remarkably well-insulated, given the lower price segment in which it operates. I'd say road noise is slightly less in the Hyundai but it does have more audible rattles than the Volvo, which definitely felt better put together. The limited wind and rain we drove in both felt more or less the same.
@@plugandplayEV Thanks!
The recent I5 Nav update is big improvement to trip planning with charging stops
We just got the I5 nav update over the air this week, so will have to test it out again. The functionality definitely looks better, especially with winter approaching and the need to use it for battery conditioning, but the UI remains inferior to Google Maps and Android-based systems, imo.
I suppose it boils down to your use case. My wife and I are road trippers, so it's be the Ionic 5 for us due to the faster charging. Also it costs less which is important.
Thanks, Tom. I think the costs align when you hit the top trim of the IONIQ 5 and the middle of the XC40 Recharge, both of which would be similarly equipped. But you're absolutely right that I5 buyers can drive off spending $10K less if they opt for an SE trim model. Lease deals and the included tax incentive that brings with it also make them more affordable, so it does become a pricing decision at that level, for sure.
Nice comparison, Steve! It’s not one I’ve seen made so it’s cool to ponder the two, especially on the same trip.
Hate to say it, but I think I’d probably take the XC40. Despite the bigger cabin size, superior cockpit ergonomics, and much faster charging, the Volvo’s Android infotainment system is a nicer OS to use than Hyundai’s. The shorter range isn’t a big deal for trips of 300 miles or less and the charge port will make it easy to slot in at Superchargers.
Thanks, I thought it was interesting to ponder two automakers at very different ends of the spectrum, but both of which seem to have landed on $50-60K EVs (albeit top trim vs. lower trim).
I totally understand the infotainment priority. Hyundai's is rather dated at this point and it's a big piece of the driving experience. Android Auto closes the gap, but not for route planning and entertainment. But we have people in the back most of the time and long trips, so the I5 is always where I'd land personally.
Recent convert here - honestly, after driving with android auto, I wouldn't go with anything else other than a Tesla. The range estimations on the integrated google maps are spot-on to the point where if it says that I arrive with 10% charge, I really don't stress about getting there. I don't even care anymore about what the car estimates for the range, just battery percentage at arrival.
Appreciate the additional validation, thanks 👍
With the Android Auto integration, do you need a separate cellphone/data subscription to get access, or can you use your phone as a WiFi access point for it? Also, I prefer to keep my music library locally on my iPhone rather than using streaming services - how well does it work as a Bluetooth music player?
No, the car has its own connectivity so you can just log into whatever accounts you have or use it out of the box. In five days with the car, I didn't hook up my Android phone to it once.
I use Spotify so I didn't test out the Bluetooth streaming quality, but based on everything else about the connectivity and system, I'd be surprised if it was anything other than smooth.
@@plugandplayEV Is there a monthly charge to get access to the connectivity?
The connectivity is free for the first four years, after which it is supposed to be fee -based. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any sources confirming how much that would cost once the free package expires.
Please let me know your suggestions on XC40recharge or Ioniq5, if I have more than 4000 kilometres drive one month.
If you regularly have people in the back or drive those 4,000 km in one big chunk (long distance trips), the Ioniq 5 makes more sense due to space and fast charging.
If it's just you and a front passenger and the miles you do are spread evenly over a month (for a commute or regional trips, say 500-600km), go for the additional premium of the XC40 Recharge.
There an added cost to get the Volvo’s premium feel.
For sure, but they do overlap in that mid $50K level, albeit the lower trims of the Volvo and the highest end of the Hyundai.
Hyundai ioniq 5 👍
I bought the XC40 recharge and it is a no go for long trip. The planificator is shit (it goes to out of service "pump") , the autonomy is limited (150km with a roof top) , the line assist is so dangerous.
I dislike lane assist in any vehicle but agree this would not be great for road trip to unknown parts. Great as a daily driver and normal trips....so 80-90% of the driving most people do. However if you have to, the best way to roadtrip this car is to keep the SOC between 20%-80% which is about 150 miles and take advantage of any DC superchargers along the route, level 2 for longer breaks.
IMHO, the Google Auto GOM is best in class at estimating destination SoC. As you mention, both in GM & Volvo family of cars. I am guessing Google assigned a team of PHD data scientist from their pool of ones they keep locked up in a back room to go full alien tech on it.
Big disadvantage to the XC40 recharge is the dreaded turtle mode. argh!!! 🐢🐢🐢
Thx for the vid. I enjoyed watching.
Oh no, I didn't get adventurous enough to drag us under 10%... when does the turtle show up?
@@plugandplayEV 12% I believe and it gets increasingly belligerent as you progress into single digits.
Well, there's a test for next time then... maybe the improved 2024 model. Thanks for the info.
Expensive staggered tire setup, low efficiency, ultra finicky infotainment, wobbly and bobbly ride, unnecessary proprietary wiper connectors, no V2L options and lesser (compared to the Ioniq 5) smart cruise control action made me return the lease on my XC40 over an Ioniq 5. It was a great first EV but there’s better options out there now.
XC40 adaptive cruise is flat out dangerous. It approached a 35mph ramp at 75mph and did NOT slow down!
Been driving an xc-40 recharge for over two years, and I gotta say, there are so many little glitches with the computer/app that I will never buy another Volvo. They clearly have little priority for the software and it's made an otherwise excellent car feel like hot garbage.
Interesting, thanks for the real world ownership experience.
Thx for a helpful review, Volvo it is most likely
Really nice ride, enjoy! ⚡👍
But what if you have only apple phones?
It has apple car play, Google is the on board system, they do not conflict
You'd need to create a Google account to get the most personalization, but Android Automotive is baked into the vehicle and so operates independently of your phone.
Ioniq 5, because of V2L function
Ah, absolutely, one of the distinguishing factors that I missed. Thanks!
Volvo XC40 is more safer and also better to drive expecially in slippery roads like in winter time.
I'd agree on safety, for sure. Haven't tried the Volvo in snow or ice, but I will say the IONIQ 5 has impressed me in the snow and slush. Very capable adverse weather vehicle, at least in the AWD variant.
Ioniq 5 is somparable and probably better overall but cheaper.... kind of a no brainer.
I think there's a broader sense that Volvos have more lux to them than a Hyundai, so buyers expect to pay more. The materials are certainly a cut above in the XC40 Recharge but whether that's with $10K+ is obviously debatable.
No brainer here. More room, better acceleration, yet more efficient. More range with faster charging. All at 5K less, just as premium feel. No wonder Ioniq5 won the European Car of the year
It's certainly the one we'd pick... and did! But the upgrades on the Volvo for 2024 will definitely make it that bit more competitive.
Volvo whey better ❤
Sounds like an advert for Volvo
Nope, the Ioniq 5 is what I recommended in the end.
No way that the IONIQ is faster.
I think it comes down to Volvo's initially conservative specs. They peg the curent model at 4.9 seconds 0-60, where as independent tests frequently record mid 4 seconds. At the latter, you're quite right that it would beat the IONIQ 5 by a few points.