More IONIQ 6 content coming this month, including efficiency, charging experiences, and some fun at Palmer Motorsports Park at Corbin the IONIQ Guy's Massachusetts meetup.
There has been whispers of the death of sedans as a form factor in the U.S.. I sat in an I6 about a year ago. My wife and I are empty nesters and the six has a style that harkens back to porche from the 1980s as well as the EGMP underpinnings for me make it desirable. I could see myself in one in the future. Thank you for the video. I enjoyed watching.
Thanks, Walter. It's a unique design that doesn't grab me from all angles (I find the back a bit too busy for my liking) but sleek and the front quarters look great. I had also given up on sedans, for the most part, but the 6 would definitely make me rethink that.
I’m 6’4”, 250 lbs, and fit well in both the Ioniq 5, and 6. Both are very roomy, and comfortable, but the 6 seems more sporty, and form fitting. I really liked the driving experience a little more than in the 5. That said, the cargo capacity is as good as a midsized SUV, and my elderly parents can get in and out of the 5 better, so that won out in my use case. The 5, & 6 are both outstanding EV’s though. Plus it comes with the peace of mind, of not supporting that real life super villain, Elon.
Thanks for the additional thoughts on both vehicles. You have a couple of inches on me so it's good to know the 6 holds up with even more height. I was definitely not expecting how much the 6 would swallow in that trunk.
Thank you, Steve. I don't think you can go wrong with either as a highly-capable EV for daily driving. That just brings it down to which style you prefer between the 5/6 and whether greater efficiency or the height/practicality of a hatch are more important to you. Keep us updated on what you choose!
I've seen aftermarket "deep frunks" for the single-motor I6 models that bring the total capacity to 1.5 cu ft (45 l). You can't do it with the dual-motor AWD because the second motor is below the frunk and there is no more room.
Thanks for the comparison, Steve! I will say that I've become accustomed to hatchbacks/liftbacks, and with the superior cabin and cargo volumes available in EVs, they might be even more necessary. One of my biggest criticisms of the Bolt EV is that the rear doors don't actually swing open wide enough to support loading the size of objects that will fit on the back seat, so the hatch in the rear is crucial.
Right, the Bolt's storage is completely transformed when the full back space is opened up. Still remember a few early models converted to local delivery vans with the rear seat delete option. The bright yellow Yerba Mate one springs to mind.
Nice review of two vehicles I'm considering to eventually replace my 19 Ioniq EV (Ioniq 1). The 6 looks fabulous, but I love the utility of a hatchback. I really want the NACS charging port, so I'll have to resist the deals on the 24s. Tough choice! I had a rental Model 3 for a week last year. I liked it, but not the center screen or the tight rear seat.
That was interesting, thank you. I'm sure many of us have wanted to compare these two vehicles. I've thought about a test drive but, well, one still has a life. :-) I like what Hyundai has been doing. We might be spending too much time talking about charging speeds. It doesn't matter to most of us, I think. Very few of us are going to frequently travel beyond the 250-300 miles range of our typical EV, so the charging speed just isn't that important. (IMHO.) Not that I'm in the market. Holding onto the Mach-E GT Performance for a while, I hope. To be honest I still occasionally miss the cheap, reasonable simplicity of the Bolt EV.
I agree. Looking at range has become less consequential recently, as most EVs are now delivering in the 250-300 mile region. For daily use that's more than enough, then for long trips buyers just need to assess how often that's a consideration and what kind of fast charging capability fits their travel style. That said, I would like to see efforts redoubled on improving efficiency. As we get down to more affordable EVs, squeezing every last mile out of the kWh put in will be a more important consideration and it's only really a few players right now who seem to be focusing on that.
Does the Limited's sunroof add significant light to the cabin? It already felt quite airy with the light color materials in this SEL, but I've heard the darker trim can feel a bit gloomy... wondering if the sunroof makes a difference there?
@@plugandplayEV Honestly, I don't use it a lot. The problem is, on sunny days, I don't want blinding sun directly overhead. On non-sunny days, why open it? 🙂 One other thing, that back seat height. It is one thing to sit in the seat while tall and the car isn't moving, quite another to be tall and hit a bump. My 6' 4" son has plenty of leg room in the back seat, but bumps his head so will only ride in front.
Hi Steve - I like both of these cars. The 5 brings forward the lines from the 80’s era, which had several ok looking hatches. Love the utility of the hatch. The 6 keeps the sedan thing going (happy for that!) - love the “Porsche look” rear lines on it. Either one of these cars would be great! My 19 year old son, having grown up with our now 7 yr old Bolt, has the 6 on his shopping list once he gets a real paycheck coming in. I couldn’t pass up the recent discounts on inventory MYs, so picked up a LR RWD last weekend for my next EV adventures, although we’re keeping the Bolt in the family. Cheers!
Thanks, Dennis. Every time we touch on the idea of going back to two EVs, those used Bolts around $15K immediately pop into my mind. I don't think we'll be back to a non-hatch vehicle until the kids have cars of their own, but the Ioniq 6 certainly has a lot to offer when that's not a high priority.
Yep, the owner does rideshare and seemed to want a BMW M model without stumping up real cash... so IONIQ 6 + cheap stick ones = performance, I guess? ⚡🏁
Thanks Steve, this is one of the best comparisons I have seen between these two cars. Thanks for that trunk space comparison. I have seen so much negative stuff about that truck, but looks like it holds more than it looks like it would. Love the looks of the 5, but the efficiency of the 6. The Model 3 is absolutely much smaller in the back seat. I don't see enough critical assessments of the rear seat space in the M3. It is cramped for sure. Steve are you considering the I6 as your replacement for the I5? What are your major considerations? The greater efficiency? Range?
Thanks for the additional thoughts. We're in an extended run of living with one vehicle right now, which I think will eventually turn into a second EV. So as a result I'm trying to test a bunch over long weekends to see what options would work. I don't think the 6 would be one, based purely on the lack of a hatch, but I was happy with the drive style and passenger space that I could see it being a great companion to the IONIQ 5 for longer trips, where the excellent charging of both would be paired with the improved efficiency and range of the 6 at highway speeds. Very unlikely that we would do that at this stage, but the leases are always compelling on these models right now so...?
Please share what the OTA update experience is like! One of the reasons I sold my Ioniq5 was the lack of any real OTA updates - had to waste time at a dealer for each upgrade. Also does phone as a key I hate carrying keyfobs now that I’ve owned Teslas.
Not bad in terms of actually getting updates OTA, but there's not nearly as much in the update of features compared to Tesla, Rivian, and Ford. The last one for our IONIQ 5 (typically two a year) only added a sports score function and some extra voice commands, so it's nothing especially exciting but the process is easy enough. In terms of keyfobs, Hyundai does offer Digital Key via phone on Apple, Google, and Samsung devices (last I heard... might have expanded since). I tend to have my fob on key ring with house and bike lock keys, so I'm rarely without it, but in isolated times without the fob I've used it without trouble. Just a bit laggy, compared to the physical fob, in my experience.
Those who prefer a sedan with a trunk, rather than an SUV with a hatchback, will like the Ioniq 6. Not I! My Model 3 was like that, and I much prefer my Ioniq 5. The only real advantage to the I6 is that it achieves better range, thanks to its slicker aerodynamics. Regardless, my I5's range is more than sufficient for me.
Right, I think the 6 would start to shine on the kind of long trip we took over the summer, although again car camping would be less convenient than the 5. I met two IONIQ 6 drivers in Vermont this summer who had traveled all up the East Coast in just a couple of days. The combination of outstanding aero and the same stellar EGMP charging would clearly make the 6 a top choice then.
May I ask how you're only averaging 3.1mi/kwh @ 2:01? I would think it would be way higher unless 90% of your miles are highway and you're doing 80mph + consistently. lol
Ha, I wish I could tell you... the IONIQ 6 was a Turo rental and I was only responsible for the last 250 miles of that 20K number! Owner is a rideshare driver too, so possibly a lot of sitting around blasting the heat through the New England winter?!
Second video coming up on my charging, travel, and efficiency experiences with the IONIQ 5 next week. What this video does show is that the owner had it t 3.1 mi/kWh lifetime over 20,000 miles, which is odd as it only has a few Turo trips and I assume his rideshare activity is mostly metro Boston. That should yield a much higher number but if there's a lot of sitting around with the heating on and hammering the car around for his private driving, I guess it could explain the curiously low number on such a slippery EV.
Thanks! This 6 was a rental so I wasn't going to risk dinging it up. Seemed like it would be incredibly awkward though, no? And we can get two bikes into the 5, which I'm assuming isn't the case with the 6, given the height limitations?
@plugandplayEV Not sure if you can fit 2 bikes in the Ioniq6. I own an Ioniq6 and LOVE it. My male friend habitually carries his one large bicycle in the Ioniq6. That said, thank you for being an EV advocate.
I appreciate it, that kind of real-world use case is incredibly valuable and I was coming at it from a family angle (rescuing two kids on ambitious bike rides!) rather than an individual transporting their own bike. I'll have a couple more videos on the 6 so will definitely add that perspective, thank you.
all the point you said about the ioniq 6 i find it pure objective since for me it's all bad point, i own a ioniq 6 and my friend have a ioniq 5 and i wish i had never choose the ioniq 6... i hate it so much it's not even a car... it's badly made toy
More IONIQ 6 content coming this month, including efficiency, charging experiences, and some fun at Palmer Motorsports Park at Corbin the IONIQ Guy's Massachusetts meetup.
@plugandplayEV Great!! I wanted to go to the meet-up, but I live in North Carolina.
He did a great job. Never seen so many Hyundai-Kia EVs in one place, including auto shows and dealerships!
There has been whispers of the death of sedans as a form factor in the U.S.. I sat in an I6 about a year ago. My wife and I are empty nesters and the six has a style that harkens back to porche from the 1980s as well as the EGMP underpinnings for me make it desirable. I could see myself in one in the future. Thank you for the video. I enjoyed watching.
Thanks, Walter. It's a unique design that doesn't grab me from all angles (I find the back a bit too busy for my liking) but sleek and the front quarters look great. I had also given up on sedans, for the most part, but the 6 would definitely make me rethink that.
I’m 6’4”, 250 lbs, and fit well in both the Ioniq 5, and 6. Both are very roomy, and comfortable, but the 6 seems more sporty, and form fitting. I really liked the driving experience a little more than in the 5. That said, the cargo capacity is as good as a midsized SUV, and my elderly parents can get in and out of the 5 better, so that won out in my use case. The 5, & 6 are both outstanding EV’s though. Plus it comes with the peace of mind, of not supporting that real life super villain, Elon.
Thanks for the additional thoughts on both vehicles. You have a couple of inches on me so it's good to know the 6 holds up with even more height. I was definitely not expecting how much the 6 would swallow in that trunk.
@@plugandplayEVforgot to add, I’m looking forward to the car camping videos. That’s v something I want to try this summer as well.
Thanks for this comparison, Steve. Ioniq 5/6 are in the running for my next car.
Thank you, Steve. I don't think you can go wrong with either as a highly-capable EV for daily driving. That just brings it down to which style you prefer between the 5/6 and whether greater efficiency or the height/practicality of a hatch are more important to you. Keep us updated on what you choose!
Great coverage on the IONIC 5 and 6. Thank you.
Thanks!
I've seen aftermarket "deep frunks" for the single-motor I6 models that bring the total capacity to 1.5 cu ft (45 l). You can't do it with the dual-motor AWD because the second motor is below the frunk and there is no more room.
I love the looks of the 5. If the front of the 6 was reworked a bit, id like it just as much. But the 5's modern throwback looks are sweet
Thanks for the comparison, Steve! I will say that I've become accustomed to hatchbacks/liftbacks, and with the superior cabin and cargo volumes available in EVs, they might be even more necessary. One of my biggest criticisms of the Bolt EV is that the rear doors don't actually swing open wide enough to support loading the size of objects that will fit on the back seat, so the hatch in the rear is crucial.
Right, the Bolt's storage is completely transformed when the full back space is opened up. Still remember a few early models converted to local delivery vans with the rear seat delete option. The bright yellow Yerba Mate one springs to mind.
The Ioniq 6 is on the top of my list when I decide to get rid of my Bolt.
Other than losing the practicality of the hatch and maneuverability of the Bolt, that should be a pretty enjoyable upgrade when it comes.
Got the Ioniq 6 seven months ago and love it. It’s a great drive and very stylish
Nice review of two vehicles I'm considering to eventually replace my 19 Ioniq EV (Ioniq 1).
The 6 looks fabulous, but I love the utility of a hatchback. I really want the NACS charging port, so I'll have to resist the deals on the 24s. Tough choice!
I had a rental Model 3 for a week last year. I liked it, but not the center screen or the tight rear seat.
That was interesting, thank you. I'm sure many of us have wanted to compare these two vehicles. I've thought about a test drive but, well, one still has a life. :-)
I like what Hyundai has been doing. We might be spending too much time talking about charging speeds. It doesn't matter to most of us, I think. Very few of us are going to frequently travel beyond the 250-300 miles range of our typical EV, so the charging speed just isn't that important. (IMHO.)
Not that I'm in the market. Holding onto the Mach-E GT Performance for a while, I hope.
To be honest I still occasionally miss the cheap, reasonable simplicity of the Bolt EV.
I agree. Looking at range has become less consequential recently, as most EVs are now delivering in the 250-300 mile region. For daily use that's more than enough, then for long trips buyers just need to assess how often that's a consideration and what kind of fast charging capability fits their travel style.
That said, I would like to see efforts redoubled on improving efficiency. As we get down to more affordable EVs, squeezing every last mile out of the kWh put in will be a more important consideration and it's only really a few players right now who seem to be focusing on that.
4.6s 0-60 on my AWD Ltd. Yes, it feels rocket-like, especially for a family sedan.
Does the Limited's sunroof add significant light to the cabin? It already felt quite airy with the light color materials in this SEL, but I've heard the darker trim can feel a bit gloomy... wondering if the sunroof makes a difference there?
@@plugandplayEV Honestly, I don't use it a lot. The problem is, on sunny days, I don't want blinding sun directly overhead. On non-sunny days, why open it? 🙂
One other thing, that back seat height. It is one thing to sit in the seat while tall and the car isn't moving, quite another to be tall and hit a bump. My 6' 4" son has plenty of leg room in the back seat, but bumps his head so will only ride in front.
Hi Steve - I like both of these cars. The 5 brings forward the lines from the 80’s era, which had several ok looking hatches. Love the utility of the hatch. The 6 keeps the sedan thing going (happy for that!) - love the “Porsche look” rear lines on it. Either one of these cars would be great! My 19 year old son, having grown up with our now 7 yr old Bolt, has the 6 on his shopping list once he gets a real paycheck coming in. I couldn’t pass up the recent discounts on inventory MYs, so picked up a LR RWD last weekend for my next EV adventures, although we’re keeping the Bolt in the family. Cheers!
Thanks, Dennis. Every time we touch on the idea of going back to two EVs, those used Bolts around $15K immediately pop into my mind. I don't think we'll be back to a non-hatch vehicle until the kids have cars of their own, but the Ioniq 6 certainly has a lot to offer when that's not a high priority.
io6 is my precious
The 6 looks like its got Halford accessories slapped onto it, just missing a powered by pixie dust sticker
Yep, the owner does rideshare and seemed to want a BMW M model without stumping up real cash... so IONIQ 6 + cheap stick ones = performance, I guess? ⚡🏁
Thanks Steve, this is one of the best comparisons I have seen between these two cars. Thanks for that trunk space comparison. I have seen so much negative stuff about that truck, but looks like it holds more than it looks like it would. Love the looks of the 5, but the efficiency of the 6. The Model 3 is absolutely much smaller in the back seat. I don't see enough critical assessments of the rear seat space in the M3. It is cramped for sure. Steve are you considering the I6 as your replacement for the I5? What are your major considerations? The greater efficiency? Range?
Thanks for the additional thoughts. We're in an extended run of living with one vehicle right now, which I think will eventually turn into a second EV. So as a result I'm trying to test a bunch over long weekends to see what options would work. I don't think the 6 would be one, based purely on the lack of a hatch, but I was happy with the drive style and passenger space that I could see it being a great companion to the IONIQ 5 for longer trips, where the excellent charging of both would be paired with the improved efficiency and range of the 6 at highway speeds. Very unlikely that we would do that at this stage, but the leases are always compelling on these models right now so...?
Please share what the OTA update experience is like! One of the reasons I sold my Ioniq5 was the lack of any real OTA updates - had to waste time at a dealer for each upgrade. Also does phone as a key I hate carrying keyfobs now that I’ve owned Teslas.
Not bad in terms of actually getting updates OTA, but there's not nearly as much in the update of features compared to Tesla, Rivian, and Ford. The last one for our IONIQ 5 (typically two a year) only added a sports score function and some extra voice commands, so it's nothing especially exciting but the process is easy enough.
In terms of keyfobs, Hyundai does offer Digital Key via phone on Apple, Google, and Samsung devices (last I heard... might have expanded since). I tend to have my fob on key ring with house and bike lock keys, so I'm rarely without it, but in isolated times without the fob I've used it without trouble. Just a bit laggy, compared to the physical fob, in my experience.
Those who prefer a sedan with a trunk, rather than an SUV with a hatchback, will like the Ioniq 6. Not I! My Model 3 was like that, and I much prefer my Ioniq 5. The only real advantage to the I6 is that it achieves better range, thanks to its slicker aerodynamics. Regardless, my I5's range is more than sufficient for me.
Right, I think the 6 would start to shine on the kind of long trip we took over the summer, although again car camping would be less convenient than the 5. I met two IONIQ 6 drivers in Vermont this summer who had traveled all up the East Coast in just a couple of days. The combination of outstanding aero and the same stellar EGMP charging would clearly make the 6 a top choice then.
May I ask how you're only averaging 3.1mi/kwh @ 2:01? I would think it would be way higher unless 90% of your miles are highway and you're doing 80mph + consistently. lol
Ha, I wish I could tell you... the IONIQ 6 was a Turo rental and I was only responsible for the last 250 miles of that 20K number! Owner is a rideshare driver too, so possibly a lot of sitting around blasting the heat through the New England winter?!
What about ij terms of efficiency fot both,what are you getting from the Ioniq 5 in terms of miles per kilowatt?
Second video coming up on my charging, travel, and efficiency experiences with the IONIQ 5 next week.
What this video does show is that the owner had it t 3.1 mi/kWh lifetime over 20,000 miles, which is odd as it only has a few Turo trips and I assume his rideshare activity is mostly metro Boston. That should yield a much higher number but if there's a lot of sitting around with the heating on and hammering the car around for his private driving, I guess it could explain the curiously low number on such a slippery EV.
I prefer yhr Ioniq 5 design/shape over the Ioniq 6
I like the sleek, sporty front quarters of the 6 a little more but the overall style and angles of the 5 gives it the win for me, too.
You clearly don't own an Ioniq6. You can fit a bike in the Ioniq6 by putting the back seats down.
Thanks! This 6 was a rental so I wasn't going to risk dinging it up. Seemed like it would be incredibly awkward though, no? And we can get two bikes into the 5, which I'm assuming isn't the case with the 6, given the height limitations?
@plugandplayEV Not sure if you can fit 2 bikes in the Ioniq6. I own an Ioniq6 and LOVE it. My male friend habitually carries his one large bicycle in the Ioniq6. That said, thank you for being an EV advocate.
I appreciate it, that kind of real-world use case is incredibly valuable and I was coming at it from a family angle (rescuing two kids on ambitious bike rides!) rather than an individual transporting their own bike. I'll have a couple more videos on the 6 so will definitely add that perspective, thank you.
@plugandplayEV No worries. Thanks. Looking forward to it.
all the point you said about the ioniq 6 i find it pure objective since for me it's all bad point, i own a ioniq 6 and my friend have a ioniq 5 and i wish i had never choose the ioniq 6... i hate it so much it's not even a car... it's badly made toy