Tune it get with zzp or if you can afford it get hptuned. Im at 130k miles still pulling on scatpacks,fbo 5.0s with just an exhaust, upper charge pipe, intercooler and a tune.
@@toxicfg2941 no doubt it'll pick up some good gains with a tune but 60 horse and 100 lb ft? Unless your adding some bolt ons or more boost to that tune get fuckin real
The cobalt ss/tc, one of the most underrated vehicles from GM. I had a coupe that blew the doors off of a C6 z06. I was sitting at a very conservative 410whp with an S259et. Very fun car that I deeply regret selling.
Dude. I'm trying to buy a 2020 Civic Si, but not a single dealer has them here in Michigan. Been calling around for like the past month. I want to at least test drive one first, but I might just order one. Also, I was thinking of buying black or silver...what do you think?
take a road trip! nothing wrong with a good 500 mile trip to buy a good car at a good price. do all negotiation over email and the phone and get the deal all set up before you even leave the house. you dont need to test drive one. Its a really good car. I think definitely black! mayyybe silver. black is my favorite
Nice runs fellas ! I got an 09 ss cobalt sedan and I love it . Just replaced the engine with another lnf with 30k miles since my old engine died at 110,000 miles but it’s running better then ever right now . Got tons of plans for her 🤙but great video👌
Ye bro, good runs , also yes you have to take off traction control when you racing, it will hold back a lot of power to prevent the car from torque steer or wheel spin.
I had a 2005 supercharged Cobalt with the stage 2. That was a really fast car back then very under estimated. The engine was German and the transmission was from Saab.
My brother has this SI, But his is full bolt ons with tune. I have a Stage 2 2015 WRX and we are gonna run them this week. Can’t wait to see how it goes. His civic is surprisingly quick. Great car.
Storethis nah man I didn’t tune, thats why I bought that specific CAI since it doesn’t throw any codes after install. Runs a little rough but I have plans to build it later so I’m just enjoying how it is for now.
@@sergnextdoor5213 go for it dude, these are fine stock i was just curious lol. but yea when ya ready to mess with it, throw on a downpipe and ZZP tune and it'll make over 300. Fun as hell and reliable to boot t. i own an 09 SS sedan
I've got a LSJ (supercharged version). All I have is a 2.9" pulley, charge cooler upgrade, and 60# injectors and I dynoed in at 255HP at the wheels. Lots of fun driving daily (In Canadian Winters lol). I'm pretty happy with staying in this power range, it's got a great fun-to-cost ratio. Only annoying part is the stage 2 cancer on my driver's side door. I guess it's weight reduction and theft protection lol
Get the ZZP ECU and you'll be happy until you can get HPT and get a custom tune. I have am FBO LDK swap in my HHR SS with the ZZP ECU @ 25 psi and I wax a bunch of cars. I am going to go Z54 or ZFR this summer hopefully and stay on 93 until I get bored then I am thinking E47.
The ecotec engine is a great engine, I just now finishing a conversion of a 2.2 into my Alfa Romeo spider, no turbo, it was tested on a engine stand, at 216 hp at 6400 r and 189 tq at 4200 rpm. And the tq is very flat from 1600 to 6100 rpm, my Alfa Romeo spider weighs in at 2380 pounds more or less. Can't wait to drive it, oh yes, the transmission is from a 1997 mustang, w/c t5 transmission
You should try and find someone to race you in a stock Cobalt SS S/C or stock Saturn Ion Redline. From factory they are rated 205hp. I think that would be an interesting race.
Nice video. Although I think you're shifting too early. You'll need that type r or an accord. If you want to compete with cobalt. Its rough because you're scared of Vtec. 20 roll woke up the engine. Then you shift to early in second...
@@Camhill182 my bad. Sorry for bad advice. I just looked at specs for the civic si and the cobalt SS. Your buddy car is a hole second faster stock 0-60 than you. No win situation. I cant wait to see your hondata upgrade. Smaller wheels. bigger turbo and intercooler. I love the videos.
In-fact, here you go. This is from my personal post on CivicX.com The short 7 step process below Once in your car, just press the engine start on two times until every things on (ENGINE OFF/ON EITHER WAY) FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE UNTIL SAID OTHERWISE, and make sure your parking brake is off before starting this process. Follow this, and it will work every time. 1. Parking brake on/off 2. TC OFF/ON 3. Parking brake on/off 4. TC OFF/ON 5. Parking brake on **FOOT OFF BRAKE PEDDLE ** 6. TC OFF/ON **FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE** 7. TC OFF/ON Then, crank your car if you have not yet. Again, it isn't necessary for you to crank your car before starting this process. Lastly, if you mess up any time during these steps. you do not need to turn everything off, just start from STEP 1 at any point. It is just like starting over. Also, you don't have to wait for the PARKING brake to fully engage/disengage to start the next step. I do this at lights with in 10-15 seconds. To confirm, your VSA/TRACTION control light will be solid on the right, and the left icon will be blinking very quickly. So a total of two lights will appear in the top left of your gauge cluster.
Dude this is awesome vids, I started following you because you are just in Roseville CA. I thought about getting the SI but decided to go with the accord 2.0t and now did a lot to it which my warranty is a goner. Keep up the good content. I follow another SI dude that he built the engine tho
@@Camhill182 it's pretty quick but not done yet. I went with hondata flashpro but it's just what u want between flashpro or ktuner... Can't wait on what u do more on the car...
Hondata is the way to go on the 10th gen. K tuner came out and said so. Hondata has made this gen a priority. You will see bigger gains and they have partnered with PRL to custom tune with some of there parts.
@@Camhill182 Did you ever find out if using Ktuner or Hondata would void your warranty? I only ask because I'm scared of doing that to mine, hence I've left my 2020 bone stock.
Never driven a manual before but I’m deciding whether to get an SI or a Touring. I feel like I should get the Touring then get the SI when they redesign it. I’ll be leasing it too btw.
I mean, the si is great for the price. and the features that it comes with as standard are impressive. Both are good options, but 25 more HP with the si
I have a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3 with a Cork Sport CST 5 Turbo with a boost control solenoid running 26-28 lbs of boost, Stage 3 clutch with solid motor mounts and trans mounts, Cork Sport HPF pump, Cork Sport cold air intake, GFB 50/50 recirculating valve, custom made down pipe and catless all 3" straight pipe exhaust running on a Cobb Access Port with an aggressive tune. I would decimate both of these cars off the line in 3rd gear and they'd be seeing tail lights the entire time once I hit 4 gear lol. Car is roughly putting out 440Hp and about 410lbs of torque on stock block and internal so far, Niche 18" wheels on Continental extreme contact sport tires, more upgrades to come in the future with a goal of 550-600Hp 🔥🔥 My son has a 2006 Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged with 3" Pulley, Stage 3 clutch with all ZZP exhaust, header, solid motor and trans mounts sitting on coilovers putting out about 335Hp and 310' lbs of torque
To go back to ur reason y GM changed from Supercharger to turbo was in 05 they wanted to do turbo from jump but were still under contract with Eaton so to save money they went with the supercharger, in 08 the contract was up, I have a 05 SS, Very underestimated car but bout LSJ and LNF are capable of crazy Hp upgrades, my only issue with mine is the interior looking so cheap, hate that shit
Cameron Hill 20 roll you should beat him Bc cobalt shift points are 0-40-60-100-130 etc but the way cables are set up on a ss you can’t be in first at 20 gotta be in 2nd so you’re at like 2k rpms so takes a min fairest comparison is 30 and up or a dig. But if his clutch isn’t acting up tell him to breakboost and might help him depending on tire setup if he spins a lot or not
He said he stock 2020 si is rated at crank stock 205 hp but I have watched dyno runs that show stock horsepower for this car at 200 or 195hp at the wheels which means approx 220hp at crank
Go with an lnf Cobalt for bolt ons and tune. Go with lsj for an all out build. The lsj has a lot more of an aftermarket than the lnf. Turbo swapped lsj is a lnf's nightmare though
Good runs brah. I said before I daily a '08 SS. Today we had a huge snow storm and even with my Michelin X ice tires it was sketchy. Not sure if it's the low end torque or just shit suspension but it handles so bad in the snow. It torque steers all over the place. Sometimes I wish I had a car with a advanced awd system. I think my Camaro was even better in the snow lol. Best kill I had was a c6 vert. I heard him floor it and I had my revs up high enough in 2nd gear to pull him and then nlf into 3rd and he was behind me the whole time. We came up to a light and said ya got me lol. I said it's all good :). My ws6 was faster but the balt is decent.
9th gens si stock aren’t match for nothing, bolt ons and tune the car will do miracles that you didn’t know it can make.. I raced a cobalt SS with a turbo swap he said about 320whp, dude couldn’t believe I took him off a dig and got em by a whole car. I have raced 2 10th gen si, one stock and the other one bolt ons and tune, both 20 and 40 roll.. stock 10th gen has no chance either roll.. but the tune 10th gen gave me a better chance, only beat me once by a bumper for letting limiter bounce (my fault lol).. I’ll say 210 which is fair for my setup but not really, with a good tuner should be around 215 or a bit more.. but when I put my rbc and a few extra upgrades I should be around 220 and then upgrade Tb,intake, rsx oil pump, e85, probably missing some parts but should rocket up to 230 maybe 232whp and 190ish torque.. 9th gens are hard to balance power but fast asf when done..
Cameron Hill I’m watching becuase right now I own a 2015 is 250 f sport and I’m thinking about trading it in for either a si or type r just don’t know if I make it happen now or wait for gen 11
Blayne Gowens well, if you do make it happen right now, the si and Type R both hold their value very very well, so you will have positive equity when the 11th gen comes out
Blayne Gowens yes, I think the changes will be significant. However, I dont thunk they will have the 11th gen until the 2022 model year, since they just did the refresh for the si and Type R this year. They wouldnt refresh them for only 1 year, know what I mean?
@@Camhill182 seems to be pretty awesome stock . I have an ILX i hate so much that ive been using my mustang as a commuter car, so im getting the civic when ilx goes back.
The problem is about affordability and cost, the cobalt SS youre basically paying for the motor and handling components, whereas the Si has a higher quality interior and luxury tech the Si could be made with 40 more horsepower but then theyd reduce quality in other areas not to mention thats why the type R is where its at on the totem pole if they made the Si as fast as the type R and nobody would buy the Type R its like your own brand competing with itself
Man I can’t wait till you race a 9th gen Cameron cause I have a 2015 si and only have a k&n and the hps silicone air intake tube!!! Feels better with the new intake tube but still need to get hondata and then the invidia q300 exhaust😁👍 ...PS..I also had a 2006 si back in 2009!!! Miss revving over 8k long live the k20 but love the torque of my k24 though😉
well, I already purchased an exhaust and its finishing up being built right now, and Ktuner is on the way. I love the wheels, so i wont be changing those
@@Camhill182 sadly on the east coast across the country. But talking about 10th gens, I did hear you mention the low redline has that been causing issues for you?
The cobalt turbo has the fasted times for FWD car at nurburgring until type r 2.0t came out. Before even watching this im guessing he smoked the Si. The SC mightve been a better race against the Si
lighter wheels, exhaust system, and a ktuner tune. definitely have to do that again and should be a lot closer towards the ends of those runs! love the videos, 2020 civic sport owner here!
@@Camhill182 he needs a tune to gain from any of his bolt ons, the lnf has the learn down feature so won't gain without tune. Looking forward to the video cool man. But seriously tell him he needs a tune, with e85 blend, he would be pretty close to 300 at the wheel
So, watching this video, your first problem is VSA is still on and you lost traction. Which means your car dropped all boost from that's 1st - 2nd shift.. You need to google "PEDDLE DANCE" for 10th gen civic Si. and do this again with the SS before tuning your car. You will hold 14psi from 1st - 2nd gear and rip him a new one to the end of 3rd. HUGE difference in these 2020's. I call it the "Cheat code" lol... its funny actually. P.S Just turning off VSA by pressing it doesn't actually stop your car from dropping boost. It helps, but still drops boost. This wont help your 2nd-3rd and up.
Run a bolt on Srt4 you’d get smoked I like combat SS’S but there heavy and slow I still wanna get one but with the understanding there slow but great races.
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Cobalt SS T/C specs:
K&N CAI
ZZP intercooler: 28"x 8.125"x 4"
ZZP Short shifter
Stock turbo (KO4) / 15lbs
Stock exhaust
140k miles
No tune :(
Get a tune from ZZP and GM 3 bar map sensor's!
Get the cobalt tuned to 22psi and you can get some big kills
Tune it get with zzp or if you can afford it get hptuned.
Im at 130k miles still pulling on scatpacks,fbo 5.0s with just an exhaust, upper charge pipe, intercooler and a tune.
_.C3RBERUS ._ how much boost u running
I appreciate it fellas, I do have plans for the car . 😀
With a simple tune that cobalt will gain about 60whp and about 100tq
😂😂😂🤣😂
@@allmotorfg2437 whats so funny
Cerberus speaks fucking truth.
@@toxicfg2941 no doubt it'll pick up some good gains with a tune but 60 horse and 100 lb ft? Unless your adding some bolt ons or more boost to that tune get fuckin real
Michael Risner u sure? U tune cars or something? Tuning is just adjusting air and fuel lol
The cobalt ss/tc, one of the most underrated vehicles from GM. I had a coupe that blew the doors off of a C6 z06. I was sitting at a very conservative 410whp with an S259et. Very fun car that I deeply regret selling.
Please make as many races as you can. I love them and I know others will
Will do sir! I’ll try to get another one against a pre-refresh 10th gen si this weekend
Traction control doesn’t allow the throttle body to fully open.
Good race. Now off to watch the other video in your description! Wanna see the Civic AFTER the tune. ;-)
Dude. I'm trying to buy a 2020 Civic Si, but not a single dealer has them here in Michigan. Been calling around for like the past month. I want to at least test drive one first, but I might just order one. Also, I was thinking of buying black or silver...what do you think?
take a road trip! nothing wrong with a good 500 mile trip to buy a good car at a good price. do all negotiation over email and the phone and get the deal all set up before you even leave the house. you dont need to test drive one. Its a really good car. I think definitely black! mayyybe silver. black is my favorite
Mrkysersose black would be nice
@@Camhill182 you made my mind up. Definitely doing black and taking a trip to Ohio.
Mrkysersose wow! Awesome! Get it
Nice runs fellas ! I got an 09 ss cobalt sedan and I love it . Just replaced the engine with another lnf with 30k miles since my old engine died at 110,000 miles but it’s running better then ever right now . Got tons of plans for her 🤙but great video👌
Ye bro, good runs , also yes you have to take off traction control when you racing, it will hold back a lot of power to prevent the car from torque steer or wheel spin.
There is no wheelspin on a roll race with the civic si . It has 200hp and less torque .
I had a 2005 supercharged Cobalt with the stage 2. That was a really fast car back then very under estimated. The engine was German and the transmission was from Saab.
The ecotec is originally from Opel and the transmission is German
Hill Billy yes I think from the opel speedster or something
My brother has this SI, But his is full bolt ons with tune. I have a Stage 2 2015 WRX and we are gonna run them this week. Can’t wait to see how it goes. His civic is surprisingly quick. Great car.
You should record it!
Great content brother! It was fun watching!!
Thanks!
I see the cobalt's got a CAI but he didnt tune it? LNF's take to tuning well
Storethis nah man I didn’t tune, thats why I bought that specific CAI since it doesn’t throw any codes after install. Runs a little rough but I have plans to build it later so I’m just enjoying how it is for now.
@@sergnextdoor5213 go for it dude, these are fine stock i was just curious lol. but yea when ya ready to mess with it, throw on a downpipe and ZZP tune and it'll make over 300. Fun as hell and reliable to boot
t. i own an 09 SS sedan
Storethis that’s cool brother ! Yeah man I will do that once the time comes. I appreciate it.
I have. Cobalt 2L turbo 26 psi at 420 hp ... Civic what civic ?
The reason gm went from supercharged to turbo because the Eaton contract expired. The lsj is a better motor than the lnf.
then why didn't they just put a turbo on the lsj
@@99_goat91 probably a question for gm....my guess is the lnf was a better deal in the long run.
@@99_goat91 to compete with other companies manufacturing 2.0 liter turbocharged entry level sporty cars
That's definitely way faster than you old 9th gen
I know nothing about any of this, but I do enjoy your videos! Also, I like Sergio
Love cobalts and thier flimsy wings. Lol good races, imo the LNF is still a very good platform, just happened to come in an economy car.
lsj-t is life
@@thomasallen4547 facts.
"Active aero"
I've got a LSJ (supercharged version). All I have is a 2.9" pulley, charge cooler upgrade, and 60# injectors and I dynoed in at 255HP at the wheels. Lots of fun driving daily (In Canadian Winters lol). I'm pretty happy with staying in this power range, it's got a great fun-to-cost ratio. Only annoying part is the stage 2 cancer on my driver's side door. I guess it's weight reduction and theft protection lol
yea, im from Maine so i know what its like to have rust on your car. it sucks
@@Camhill182 The only saving grace is I can be far less picky about who I park next to haha.
Roland Hodi yea thats true!
Get the ZZP ECU and you'll be happy until you can get HPT and get a custom tune.
I have am FBO LDK swap in my HHR SS with the ZZP ECU @ 25 psi and I wax a bunch of cars.
I am going to go Z54 or ZFR this summer hopefully and stay on 93 until I get bored then I am thinking E47.
You guys got good energy man you’re not dicks .you seem like genuine good people keep it up
Oh ive kept it up. Click on my channel
The ecotec engine is a great engine, I just now finishing a conversion of a 2.2 into my Alfa Romeo spider, no turbo, it was tested on a engine stand, at 216 hp at 6400 r and 189 tq at 4200 rpm. And the tq is very flat from 1600 to 6100 rpm, my Alfa Romeo spider weighs in at 2380 pounds more or less. Can't wait to drive it, oh yes, the transmission is from a 1997 mustang, w/c t5 transmission
Can’t wait till you do wheels/suspension as well.
Do full bolt ons and that cobalt will rip, I promise you wont be disappointed at all.
You should try and find someone to race you in a stock Cobalt SS S/C or stock Saturn Ion Redline. From factory they are rated 205hp. I think that would be an interesting race.
Good idea!
hmm i gotta try that, i got a 8th gen civic si, and ive done a few races, but ive never turned off the traction control
Nice video. Although I think you're shifting too early. You'll need that type r or an accord. If you want to compete with cobalt. Its rough because you're scared of Vtec. 20 roll woke up the engine. Then you shift to early in second...
im trying to get the 2020 R. and im not shifting early, Im shifting at the end of my powerband. The power drops off on these cars after 6k rpm
@@Camhill182 my bad. Sorry for bad advice. I just looked at specs for the civic si and the cobalt SS. Your buddy car is a hole second faster stock 0-60 than you. No win situation. I cant wait to see your hondata upgrade. Smaller wheels. bigger turbo and intercooler. I love the videos.
@@hondatriple6 Im installing Ktuner this week! You'll see that video probably Saturdayish
The horsepower and torque were 260. With GM stage one it removes the torque limiter and produces 340lbft with 280 ho
Where in nm are you guys I have that a cobalt ss also
I have a 2020 si 4 door. I've found 1st and 2nd gears are a little weak. 3rd and 4th though...wow! Is it the same with the coupe?
I think 1st and 2nd pull hard!
@@Camhill182 I should take some driving lessons then. 😆
TK GreyHawk lol no we probably just drive differently!
I have the 2020 Si sedan too, 1st pulls hard and so does second but 3rd and 4th are lacking when compared to others :(.
@@AnimationRecapz just wait till I install Ktuner this weekend!
In-fact, here you go. This is from my personal post on CivicX.com
The short 7 step process below
Once in your car, just press the engine start on two times until every things on (ENGINE OFF/ON EITHER WAY)
FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE UNTIL SAID OTHERWISE, and make sure your parking brake is off before starting this process.
Follow this, and it will work every time.
1. Parking brake on/off
2. TC OFF/ON
3. Parking brake on/off
4. TC OFF/ON
5. Parking brake on
**FOOT OFF BRAKE PEDDLE **
6. TC OFF/ON
**FOOT ON BRAKE PEDDLE**
7. TC OFF/ON
Then, crank your car if you have not yet.
Again, it isn't necessary for you to crank your car before starting this process.
Lastly, if you mess up any time during these steps. you do not need to turn everything off, just start from STEP 1 at any point. It is just like starting over.
Also, you don't have to wait for the PARKING brake to fully engage/disengage to start the next step. I do this at lights with in 10-15 seconds.
To confirm, your VSA/TRACTION control light will be solid on the right, and the left icon will be blinking very quickly. So a total of two lights will appear in the top left of your gauge cluster.
Hey Cam anyone ever tell you favor Justin Timberlake
lol yea I get that once in a while
Dude this is awesome vids, I started following you because you are just in Roseville CA. I thought about getting the SI but decided to go with the accord 2.0t and now did a lot to it which my warranty is a goner. Keep up the good content. I follow another SI dude that he built the engine tho
Awesome! Thanks for watching my stuff. That accord must be pretty quick!
@@Camhill182 it's pretty quick but not done yet. I went with hondata flashpro but it's just what u want between flashpro or ktuner... Can't wait on what u do more on the car...
You still got the all season tires? No tune yet? That cobalt moves.
im getting there man! i have ktuner on the horizon. TSP Stage 1 is getting loaded up right away then we will rematch
The stock tune will negate any gains from an intake or similar bolt on. If they ever actually got 12 hp gain, that was before the ECU re adjusted
Ive heard that too, but it actually does feel different to me. And PRL did everything on the stock tune when they were building this intake
Cameron Hill i can say that after installing my CS intake on my speed3 it definitely felt quicker, only thing that made it feel faster was a tune lol
You would DEFINITELY take him with a Ktuner Tsp stage 1, makes a world of a difference trust
well i cant wait then!
Hondata is the way to go on the 10th gen. K tuner came out and said so. Hondata has made this gen a priority. You will see bigger gains and they have partnered with PRL to custom tune with some of there parts.
@@egmadness209 I already made this recommendation, but I think he had purchased Ktuner prior to that.
Biggs Dickleson yup! Im going ktuner
@@Camhill182 Did you ever find out if using Ktuner or Hondata would void your warranty? I only ask because I'm scared of doing that to mine, hence I've left my 2020 bone stock.
Never driven a manual before but I’m deciding whether to get an SI or a Touring. I feel like I should get the Touring then get the SI when they redesign it. I’ll be leasing it too btw.
I mean, the si is great for the price. and the features that it comes with as standard are impressive. Both are good options, but 25 more HP with the si
What’s best about these 10thgen is they respond great to boltons. KTUNER and TSP FTW!! If you wanna really hurt feeling go FLEXFUEL and TSP stage 2.
Trifecta tune, 3” catless down pipe and cat back and e47 will get you like 320to the wheels
the ss sounds nice especially for stock. and the spoiler is not lose its automatic wind force adjustable
I have a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3 with a Cork Sport CST 5 Turbo with a boost control solenoid running 26-28 lbs of boost, Stage 3 clutch with solid motor mounts and trans mounts, Cork Sport HPF pump, Cork Sport cold air intake, GFB 50/50 recirculating valve, custom made down pipe and catless all 3" straight pipe exhaust running on a Cobb Access Port with an aggressive tune. I would decimate both of these cars off the line in 3rd gear and they'd be seeing tail lights the entire time once I hit 4 gear lol. Car is roughly putting out 440Hp and about 410lbs of torque on stock block and internal so far, Niche 18" wheels on Continental extreme contact sport tires, more upgrades to come in the future with a goal of 550-600Hp 🔥🔥
My son has a 2006 Chevy Cobalt SS Supercharged with 3" Pulley, Stage 3 clutch with all ZZP exhaust, header, solid motor and trans mounts sitting on coilovers putting out about 335Hp and 310' lbs of torque
nice! id like to take a ride in both of those cars
cant wait to see the rematch after you get ktuner
we will rematch soon!
Will be a huge difference
To go back to ur reason y GM changed from Supercharger to turbo was in 05 they wanted to do turbo from jump but were still under contract with Eaton so to save money they went with the supercharger, in 08 the contract was up, I have a 05 SS, Very underestimated car but bout LSJ and LNF are capable of crazy Hp upgrades, my only issue with mine is the interior looking so cheap, hate that shit
Cavalier Thompson nice! I STILL WANT A Bonneville SSei supercharged to this DAY. My first car was a bonneville SE and I loved it
What phone mount is that in the honda?
its a scoche magnet
Break boost your civic when you’re roll racing. Should help on any roll race.
im working on it
Cameron Hill nice, you have a nice car man. Keep up the good vids.
This Cobalt exhaust sounds is pretty cool! I LOVE Honda SI...
30-40-60 rolls are cobalts best 20 is horrible but do tune vs tune Bc the cobalt will make around 280-300whp on just a canned zzp tune for $150
I bought a tuner for my si. Serg and I will race again next weekend. Our whp numbers will be the same, so it should be a great race
Cameron Hill 20 roll you should beat him Bc cobalt shift points are 0-40-60-100-130 etc but the way cables are set up on a ss you can’t be in first at 20 gotta be in 2nd so you’re at like 2k rpms so takes a min fairest comparison is 30 and up or a dig. But if his clutch isn’t acting up tell him to breakboost and might help him depending on tire setup if he spins a lot or not
Ambitious Future I will show him this!
@@landonhall55 I used to do 20 rolls in first in my 06 RL.
Zachary Carlock you gotta think power difference and different trans
He said he stock 2020 si is rated at crank stock 205 hp but I have watched dyno runs that show stock horsepower for this car at 200 or 195hp at the wheels which means approx 220hp at crank
Yea ive seen that too. Pretty cool
Definitely need a tune but I would say to get a downpipe and frontpipe cause it will give you way more gains than a exhaust
FK7LB already got my catback on. Its not all about the gains, but ktuner came in yesterday too. Exhaust video up in 30 mins
Cameron Hill sick can’t wait to see
I got on 05 type s. Let’s race?
0:56 260hp to the crank that’s like 240 230 to the wheels is this men ok cause 260 to the crank is like 180whp or maybe 190 but idk bout that
every car is different. you can find dyno charts of the cobalt making about 240-245whp stock, and the si makes 200whp stock
Its FWD less drive train loss than and RWD or AWD. Guess you don't know your cars 🤦♂️
Yoooo the cobalt was on DONUT media
yup! they took my dang footage! (im honored)
Dude I'm going to check it out right now
Lolz couldn't find it you guys know what was the name of that episode
5 cars most likely to appreciate or something like that
@@Camhill182 just saw it bruh congrats on been on donut 💪🤘🤙👍
SS Are quick lil cars I’ve gotten mine to do 260 easily with the right tune and right mods u can get them cars to move
do you disable the traction control completely?
I did, yes!
do you have the ktuner?
Jorge De Jesus not yet. Im ordering one this week
Fun stuff. Btw, man I hope you are rev matching on those downshifts lol
Of course I am
Would like to see this Cobalt race your buddies Focus ST!!
Yes
Go with an lnf Cobalt for bolt ons and tune. Go with lsj for an all out build. The lsj has a lot more of an aftermarket than the lnf. Turbo swapped lsj is a lnf's nightmare though
Request Civic 1.5tcp Sedan vs Your civic.
If this video was filmed in Mexico, how come everything at the gas station is written in English?
Liquid Puffin i love you
Would love to see what Hondata/Ktuner can do
This was fun. Really enjoyed the vid.
GM switched from LSJ to LNF due to emissions
Not stock, upgraded intercooler, upgrade the civic intercooler and run them. It makes a big difference.
we are rematching this week! stay tuned
Wow so those SS are pretty quick huh. Anybody know how fast I could make a supercharged one?
With a smaller pulley, intake etc
Pretty fast specially if you go tvs or turbo swap stock motor can handle 450 to 500 whp probably even more
I have a 2005 stage 2, it can do 158 mph. Swap to a TVS and could run 300hp pretty easy.
nice runs! i love seeing you beat on your 2020 before i do lol! just hit 500 miles on my od hahaha! good shit
Haha I knew someone would appreciate this!
Good runs brah. I said before I daily a '08 SS. Today we had a huge snow storm and even with my Michelin X ice tires it was sketchy. Not sure if it's the low end torque or just shit suspension but it handles so bad in the snow. It torque steers all over the place. Sometimes I wish I had a car with a advanced awd system. I think my Camaro was even better in the snow lol. Best kill I had was a c6 vert. I heard him floor it and I had my revs up high enough in 2nd gear to pull him and then nlf into 3rd and he was behind me the whole time. We came up to a light and said ya got me lol. I said it's all good :). My ws6 was faster but the balt is decent.
9th gens si stock aren’t match for nothing, bolt ons and tune the car will do miracles that you didn’t know it can make.. I raced a cobalt SS with a turbo swap he said about 320whp, dude couldn’t believe I took him off a dig and got em by a whole car. I have raced 2 10th gen si, one stock and the other one bolt ons and tune, both 20 and 40 roll.. stock 10th gen has no chance either roll.. but the tune 10th gen gave me a better chance, only beat me once by a bumper for letting limiter bounce (my fault lol).. I’ll say 210 which is fair for my setup but not really, with a good tuner should be around 215 or a bit more.. but when I put my rbc and a few extra upgrades I should be around 220 and then upgrade Tb,intake, rsx oil pump, e85, probably missing some parts but should rocket up to 230 maybe 232whp and 190ish torque.. 9th gens are hard to balance power but fast asf when done..
I appreciate the uploads
Thanks for watching man
Cameron Hill I’m watching becuase right now I own a 2015 is 250 f sport and I’m thinking about trading it in for either a si or type r just don’t know if I make it happen now or wait for gen 11
Blayne Gowens well, if you do make it happen right now, the si and Type R both hold their value very very well, so you will have positive equity when the 11th gen comes out
Cameron Hill do you think they will overhaul the changes in gen 11?
Blayne Gowens yes, I think the changes will be significant. However, I dont thunk they will have the 11th gen until the 2022 model year, since they just did the refresh for the si and Type R this year. They wouldnt refresh them for only 1 year, know what I mean?
What’s the point of racing when you get a head start
did you watch all 4 runs?
The cobalt is close to the same weight and has 260hp . It looked as if the cobalt was sandbagged to make the race seem closer.
the cobalt is lowered. I am now tuned and we're rematching tomorrow
@@Camhill182 awesome. Cobalt is fast but the honda is 1,000,000x better in every other way . Getting the SI sedan in the next few months .
@@Spiritcr1jsher nice! you're going to like it. I'm going to make a video on my recommendation for mods soon
@@Camhill182 seems to be pretty awesome stock . I have an ILX i hate so much that ive been using my mustang as a commuter car, so im getting the civic when ilx goes back.
Miss my ss already
This how far Honda still hasn’t come with the si. Si can be so much more.
It's all about profit and making things look good on paper. The real world is a different story
The problem is about affordability and cost, the cobalt SS youre basically paying for the motor and handling components, whereas the Si has a higher quality interior and luxury tech the Si could be made with 40 more horsepower but then theyd reduce quality in other areas not to mention thats why the type R is where its at on the totem pole if they made the Si as fast as the type R and nobody would buy the Type R its like your own brand competing with itself
Man I can’t wait till you race a 9th gen Cameron cause I have a 2015 si and only have a k&n and the hps silicone air intake tube!!! Feels better with the new intake tube but still need to get hondata and then the invidia q300 exhaust😁👍 ...PS..I also had a 2006 si back in 2009!!! Miss revving over 8k long live the k20 but love the torque of my k24 though😉
I cant wait either. Are you near sacramento?
Cameron Hill no!!! I’m in florida😩
Also you guys need tunes to get power from any of the mods!!
Wonder how a type R would do.
Type R would win by a little bit. I've seen it. If cobalt was tuned he'd walk a type R though.
I recommend lighter wheels, suspension, a better flowing exhaust, headers, and do a ktune
well, I already purchased an exhaust and its finishing up being built right now, and Ktuner is on the way. I love the wheels, so i wont be changing those
@@Camhill182 not bad can't wait for the build, one day we gotta do 8th gen vs 10 gen ;)
Coast Off for sure! Where are you located?
@@Camhill182 sadly on the east coast across the country. But talking about 10th gens, I did hear you mention the low redline has that been causing issues for you?
Coast Off no i dont think i said it was causing issues, but i miss my 9th gen
Chevy switched to the turbos because the contract with Eaton expired and turbo was the cheapest way to keep it boosted.
I have an 07 Cobalt SS but naturally aspirated:/ I really like the feel of those cars , wouldn’t mind me one like that!
Theres no such thing as the car you just described
Yes there is. They made a cobalt ss that is just appearance package.
Cameron Hill yeah dumby
Jorge Crawford oh, well, thats stupid
The wing on the civic jiggles like that as well. The one on my 2019 jiggles and its tightly secures on
Cobalt ss is a beast, tons of torque and good brakes. DP, intercooler and tune make it fast
We need more races fam
They’re coming man. 8th gen, 9th gen, BRZ, etc
We locked in 👀💪🏿
Put a stage 1 tune on
Ktuner JUST came in the mail today! Video will be up within the week with TSP Stage 1 and more racing!
Your AC was on!! Lol j.k. I remember from the other video 😂😂
looney Romero lol damn youve been around for a while! Thats an old video!
The cobalt turbo has the fasted times for FWD car at nurburgring until type r 2.0t came out. Before even watching this im guessing he smoked the Si. The SC mightve been a better race against the Si
You bring that with 10th gen to Vegas and race my stock lnf cobalt.
Nice runs I always wanted an ss tc lil beast of a car
lighter wheels, exhaust system, and a ktuner tune. definitely have to do that again and should be a lot closer towards the ends of those runs! love the videos, 2020 civic sport owner here!
No way Ill ever change the wheels. The stock wheels are badass
@@Camhill182 The Si black wheels are definitely better than any of the other stock civic wheels, I wish I had them for mine!
Turnster89 I still like the others but I just love these stock wheels!
Raced a 2.0l wrx recently and pulled on him 8) but my cobalt is trifecta tuned
30-40 rolls are a bad idea against a cobalt, also 09turbo ss engine code is LNF not LNM
He said lnf, he just mumbles a lot.
I raced a 17 civic si in my lsj saturn and beat it, that was the same gen civic as this one
Intakes DO NOT add horsepower. Throttle response at best.
Are you getting my responses to your comments
You’re kind of a dingleberry
I’m down to run with my 2.0 accord.
Tune only SS should pull slightly on the type r. That si would be good against the supercharged SS
Ktuner is coming in the mail today. Im going to upload a tune to bring my car to 237whp and then sergio and i are gonna race again
@@Camhill182 he needs a tune to gain from any of his bolt ons, the lnf has the learn down feature so won't gain without tune. Looking forward to the video cool man. But seriously tell him he needs a tune, with e85 blend, he would be pretty close to 300 at the wheel
@@aaronmenchinger he knows! he is reading these comments
Did you really just say a Chevy cobalt would pull on a type r?!😂😂😂😂
@@jdm7755 downpipe and E85 blend HP tune only on my 09. Pulled about a car ahead yes
Should run my stock 20 VT next time!
Jedwyn Taasin ok sure. Where you at?
ive owned both cars so this is extra good lol. i got the ss balt i daily drive now
i have cobalt content on my channel brother, ill be bringing you more content. My SS is a DD as well :)
Lsj can handle way more power stock that’s why most people build lsj s and strap a turbo on them
Clutch is slipping already ! I got 283 000 km on original clutch on my 06 ss sc 😉 owned for 11 years
those are good little cars man!
my clutch is also stock on 140,000 miles, check out my channel for more in depth of my SS . reliable cars!
Same only I have a 2005 ss s/c stage 2 with 110,000km. Only the AC is fucked.
So, watching this video, your first problem is VSA is still on and you lost traction. Which means your car dropped all boost from that's 1st - 2nd shift.. You need to google "PEDDLE DANCE" for 10th gen civic Si. and do this again with the SS before tuning your car. You will hold 14psi from 1st - 2nd gear and rip him a new one to the end of 3rd. HUGE difference in these 2020's.
I call it the "Cheat code" lol... its funny actually.
P.S Just turning off VSA by pressing it doesn't actually stop your car from dropping boost. It helps, but still drops boost. This wont help your 2nd-3rd and up.
Traction control was completely off in this video
@@Camhill182 ohh you know, thats right, we discussed the peddle dance on another one of your videos a few weeks back lol.
Go get a 9+ tune from hondata and you will close that gap big time ,you parts are not giving your car nothing till you tune it
The dobert won?
Sweet.
Run a bolt on Srt4 you’d get smoked I like combat SS’S but there heavy and slow I still wanna get one but with the understanding there slow but great races.
Slow car for a slow person. They're not there lol🤦🏽♂️