BMW M2 Competition vs Honda Civic Type R - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2019
  • THE FIRST IN A FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 BMW M2 Competition and pit it against the 2019 Honda Civic Type R in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the lightness of the Type R defeat the powerful but much heavier BMW? Let's find out!
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  • @oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436
    @oxpahnakompromatkohtpol436 4 года назад +1404

    Just the fact that the Honda was paired with this serious BMW tells you loads about how competent the Honda is.

    • @klauserji
      @klauserji 4 года назад +5

      @Fire Heart the weakest engine on f1. You know honda engines are jokes on f1 right ?

    • @tidaltidaltidal
      @tidaltidaltidal 4 года назад +15

      @Fire Heart honda nsx is faster than any bmw
      Mclaren F1: hold my tea

    • @tidaltidaltidal
      @tidaltidaltidal 4 года назад +10

      @Fire Heart no innovative engines from bmw? Bmw received most world awards from their engine.

    • @starpier
      @starpier 4 года назад +53

      @@klauserji Honda MP4/4 with its RA168E V6 engine was a joke right. Just one of the most successfull F1 cars of all times.. You must live in a world where F1 history started after 2010s

    • @samymasta
      @samymasta 4 года назад +5

      @@starpier No but we live in 2020 and Germans rule the game right now

  • @jonathanacosta7509
    @jonathanacosta7509 5 лет назад +2412

    Says a lot about the Type R that it's being compared to a car twice its price.

    • @ZEWCHOOB
      @ZEWCHOOB 5 лет назад +137

      Hardly, the M2 isn't double the price, it's £10k less than double. An M240i is the same price and still demolishes the Type R in every way.

    • @setdecinmotion6719
      @setdecinmotion6719 5 лет назад +206

      Keep in mind the Type R also has a lot more room for additional buildable aftermarket horsepower (some of these are already at well over 400 hp) and a whole crap load of suspension upgrades. And the reliable Honda nameplate to boot. Not so much for the Beemer. Very little support offered from the aftermarket, and as well from BMW itself.

    • @f181234
      @f181234 5 лет назад +72

      Doctor Zaius BMW has tons of Aftermarket support

    • @pswmetalmonkey
      @pswmetalmonkey 5 лет назад +91

      @@ZEWCHOOB where i live the BMtroublu is more than double the price.. and even if it wasnt and say was only 1/3 more its still not worth it over the CTR.. Honda all the way.

    • @ZEWCHOOB
      @ZEWCHOOB 5 лет назад +95

      @@pswmetalmonkey An M2 is better than a Civic Type R in literally every single way. The Civic just looks fucking awful. And 300 BHP FWD, ooo wow, ho exciting! It's boring, ugly, and has a bad interior. Unless you're 14 and still into Hot Wheels I don't understand how anybody can be appealed by this car.

  • @kacysao7383
    @kacysao7383 4 года назад +577

    I'd take the type R and use the extra 30k for a used truck and boat to do some fishing on the weekends. 🤘

    • @lild3838
      @lild3838 3 года назад +17

      Yooo that smart move
      Bravo!

    • @sadboymz4057
      @sadboymz4057 3 года назад +5

      Hell yea

    • @bobbyg5904
      @bobbyg5904 3 года назад +7

      I'd buy 2 type Rs

    • @lucasmilik7626
      @lucasmilik7626 3 года назад +18

      Or use $600 to put a tune on it and watch it lap the Beemer

    • @Fpslaith
      @Fpslaith 3 года назад +1

      @@lucasmilik7626 cause u cant tune a bmw

  • @tamfamily1701
    @tamfamily1701 4 года назад +209

    Unbelievable, the Type R has amazing tech!!!

  • @johnschotz1614
    @johnschotz1614 5 лет назад +2609

    So the BMW is almost double the price And has almost 100 hp more And is 1 second faster......oké.....Good Job Honda!

    • @928_tyler
      @928_tyler 5 лет назад +131

      You spoiled it for me u owe me a sub tbh

    • @johnschotz1614
      @johnschotz1614 5 лет назад +2

      Ed Jack so even worse

    • @zetcelsiuss
      @zetcelsiuss 5 лет назад +104

      give it a proper track and see the difference mate.

    • @928_tyler
      @928_tyler 5 лет назад +7

      @@zetcelsiuss honestly

    • @koruki
      @koruki 5 лет назад +171

      Do you know how long a second is in a lap?

  • @kanemnewton6153
    @kanemnewton6153 5 лет назад +467

    Soichiro Honda once said “without racing, there would be no Honda”. Wise words from a wise man.

    • @samrit123in
      @samrit123in 5 лет назад +50

      The only company that has dominated every major motorsport. F1 ( Marlboro McLaren Honda), MotoGP, Isle of Man TT, Paris Dakar.

    • @kanemnewton6153
      @kanemnewton6153 5 лет назад +8

      Nothing but facts under this comment lol

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 лет назад +11

      Its all about the K baby! When it comes to Honda, the K is king. I got a all motor 320hp K20A2 in my 2001 Civic. People never suspect anything until my VTEC kicks in at 4500! #beastmode

    • @kanemnewton6153
      @kanemnewton6153 5 лет назад +2

      DaReoCharmer I just have 09 Accord. It’s slow and big, but I’m always reving it up to redline lol

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 лет назад +3

      @@kanemnewton6153 If you have the one with the K24. You can be build that thing into a monster. Race cams is the last thing I can add but I dont think its needed. 320hp vs 360hp isnt gonna make a big difference for a daily driver. I already feel like its too fast for my lead foot #impulsive

  • @RealCarsSA
    @RealCarsSA 5 лет назад

    REAL CARS SA: ruclips.net/video/ssKcgcXn5fo/видео.html - POINTLESS DRAG RACE - Toyota Hilux vs ATV's

  • @SilverandButters
    @SilverandButters 4 года назад +993

    Nurburgring times:
    1) Honda Civic Type R: 7 minutes 43.8 Seconds
    2) BMW M2: 7 minutes 50 seconds

    • @ervinmb
      @ervinmb 4 года назад +55

      Yes but not competition m2!

    • @anantbijolia8415
      @anantbijolia8415 4 года назад +105

      @@ervinmb they literally said m2 comp. 0:37

    • @chantalslut
      @chantalslut 4 года назад +61

      Hey! Now not throw in comparisons from a proper track with real times! I own a FK2, got a FK8 on order. These cars are absolutely mental. I wanted an M2 comp, but the price is double here which is just silly. And no....BMW quality is not better then Honda, though Honda quality is not what it used to be.

    • @totoro1605
      @totoro1605 4 года назад +35

      @@anantbijolia8415 He's implying that the lap time was not the m2 competition. It was easy asf to distinguish, fuckin facepalm LMAO

    • @SilverandButters
      @SilverandButters 4 года назад +31

      @@ervinmb The official lap time of BMW M test driver Jörg Weidinger in the M2 Competition was 7:50 minutes, so fairly close to the Sport Auto time.

  • @Matt-gn7uz
    @Matt-gn7uz 5 лет назад +949

    That M2 is a beauty. The Type R is incredibly impressive for $37,000USD.

    • @bmorlok1
      @bmorlok1 5 лет назад +96

      if only it could actually be purchased for that price

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 5 лет назад +52

      Impressive when its 100hp under. Not many cars can come even close with that difference

    • @anonypersona3189
      @anonypersona3189 5 лет назад +38

      Yeah, The Type R is amazing for 4 dr / fwd vs BMW M2 2 dr/rwd sports car. Still... I'd save up for the M2.

    • @klpinfl127
      @klpinfl127 5 лет назад +16

      @@bmorlok1 my local dealer has it listed for $55k

    • @Matt-gn7uz
      @Matt-gn7uz 5 лет назад +24

      Attomsk my next door neighbor got one for $36,499 I saw the invoice.

  • @vernonprice5986
    @vernonprice5986 5 лет назад +239

    The One Punch Man sweatshirt is absolutely the star of this video.

    • @lilnicky131
      @lilnicky131 3 года назад +3

      this comment should have soooo many more likes

    • @stevenhearnden66
      @stevenhearnden66 3 года назад +1

      Yep, next time Tokyo Ghoul. 😂

  • @TrayCaddyyy
    @TrayCaddyyy 4 года назад +374

    That’s impressive how well the Honda is made.

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 года назад +1

      Bob Ross Toyota Camry V6 are fast sleepers, 2007 camry V6 can tie with the type R.

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 года назад

      Cristopher Reeves FWD does not suck, it is way more reliable than AWD!!

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 года назад

      Bob Ross the 2007 camry V6 is even faster, it does 0-80 mph in just under 8 seconds!

    • @aimxdy8680
      @aimxdy8680 3 года назад

      Bob Ross 2020 does 0-100 in 13-14 seconds i believe, thing about the 2020 camry is TOO MUCH POWER, NO GRIP, I sometimes put my 2007 camry V6 on 93 octane and they can creep up on a Infiniti G37 and smoke V6 camaros and mustangs!

    • @gabrijelbrobosnjak5028
      @gabrijelbrobosnjak5028 3 года назад

      Ye full of fake parts

  • @gamefoorum
    @gamefoorum 4 года назад +38

    4:57 *mercedes just pretending to be a wind turbine watching from afar when it comes to racing* 😄

  • @hamzamashal8335
    @hamzamashal8335 5 лет назад +878

    that one punch man sweater is gang

    • @jamesengelsman9369
      @jamesengelsman9369 5 лет назад +22

      one puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunch

    • @biggboysouth
      @biggboysouth 5 лет назад +7

      Saitama would never be in a gang! He's a hero for fu... I mean a professional hero and people just choose to follow him!

    • @AshishKulkarni0506
      @AshishKulkarni0506 5 лет назад +6

      @@biggboysouth ok nerd

    • @biggboysouth
      @biggboysouth 5 лет назад +3

      @@AshishKulkarni0506 ok geek

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 5 лет назад

      Thats what I remember the most! hahah

  • @shngsam8777
    @shngsam8777 5 лет назад +183

    both also very good cars
    and the few last cars we still can purchase in real manual gearbox

  • @angnaangna7916
    @angnaangna7916 4 года назад +83

    00:31 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    00:37 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    1:35 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”
    3:55 “IN THE CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
    4:45 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”

  • @Kevin-ek1su
    @Kevin-ek1su 2 года назад +23

    That Civic can still keep up with a car twice it’s price. Truly amazing

    • @arixramirez3701
      @arixramirez3701 2 года назад +2

      I mean if we’re being honest main reason it’s so pricey is because of the name brand

    • @neewsay7979
      @neewsay7979 2 года назад

      No

    • @bcald08
      @bcald08 Год назад

      Its not twice its price first off and m2 has WAY better interior

    • @hondaman8648
      @hondaman8648 Год назад +2

      @Brendan Caldwell kinda picking straws aren't ya? 7k of from being twice the price, there ya happy? And also...fk8 interior is better and with better seats. Good day

    • @andycjin4955
      @andycjin4955 Год назад

      where the fuck are yall getting "twice the price" Honda MSRP 37k M2C MSRP 57K

  • @motorhead16
    @motorhead16 5 лет назад +113

    For a long time i wanted to see a race between a TypeR and a BMW M2. Thanks!

    • @Charmer4856
      @Charmer4856 5 лет назад

      3500 was a decent launch point but I launch mine at 3200. 8600 redline with my K20A2 spewing 320hp

    • @XMyouth
      @XMyouth 5 лет назад +4

      I want people to go back and realize the air conditioning was on in the type r during the hot laps. In a 2 liter engine, that is going to make a difference.

    • @neds3685
      @neds3685 4 года назад

      @@XMyouth when does it mention the AC being on in the civic?

    • @neds3685
      @neds3685 4 года назад

      To sum it up - pay an extra 30k for the BMW, and get an extra 1s lead

    • @kristians2704
      @kristians2704 3 года назад +2

      @@neds3685 the M2 is a RWD sports car and the Type R is a FWD hatchback. Also 1 sec is quite a lot on a track

  • @anteperkovic111
    @anteperkovic111 5 лет назад +130

    BMW have 2 cylinders and 100hp more, and I'm impressed with time of Honda.
    At nurburgring, honda made a record FWD car with a European model that has 14hp more.

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 лет назад +6

      Power output is the same. Power is calculated differently for the Civic in EU.EU's DIN method of measurement is slightly different from the US' SAE. Europe certifies using 98 RON (octane) fuel, where the US fuel for SAE net certification is 95 RON

    • @anteperkovic111
      @anteperkovic111 5 лет назад +23

      @@painkilerr No, power output is not same. Its the same engine, just different software. Honda has reduced the power because the USA does not have high octane fuel available.
      The reason is very simple, Honda wants to have a reliable high performance engine.
      Well done Honda.

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 лет назад +2

      @@anteperkovic111 so then the European model doesnt have more power but better fuel. The engine is the same

    • @anteperkovic111
      @anteperkovic111 5 лет назад +3

      @@painkilerr The europen model engine is tuned to 98 octane. ECU map is different and power is different.
      Listen in the 15:20min:
      ruclips.net/video/dibClbd-Tx0/видео.html

    • @painkilerr
      @painkilerr 5 лет назад +8

      @@anteperkovic111 not sure if English is your second language but I did watch part of the video. When the guy asked : so what is the difference, reply : Fuel. You just my proved point for me.

  • @DreamWorkDrive
    @DreamWorkDrive 5 лет назад +151

    M2 Competition is great, but the 30k difference between them would make me pick the Type R...

    • @julioserna5659
      @julioserna5659 3 года назад +23

      Not only the money my friend, the reliability is most important and the resale value

    • @kristians2704
      @kristians2704 3 года назад

      @@julioserna5659 reliability def isn't the most important

    • @xoxoj
      @xoxoj 3 года назад +23

      @@kristians2704 nah it is. You’ve no idea how annoying and fruatratit is to deal with dealerships and mechanics.

    • @christianyang196
      @christianyang196 2 года назад +1

      @@xoxoj OMG man I totally agree with you.

    • @billybones2385
      @billybones2385 2 года назад

      @@xoxoj The Type R has and will have a lot more reliability issues than the M2. This is not 1980s. The Japanese fell behind in reliability since the early 2000s.

  • @syedrizwan273
    @syedrizwan273 4 года назад +44

    Need type R soon but first I need the money lmao

  • @John-ip7qo
    @John-ip7qo 5 лет назад +140

    Lol! The humor is seamless with you guys. Great driving! Looking forward to the track day videos.

  • @laynedingman9707
    @laynedingman9707 5 лет назад +9

    No bullshit; the chemistry you guys are developing is like the good old days of Top Gear. This is comfortably the funniest car review channel on RUclips, and I had to pause the video after the stop watch gag because I was laughing too hard to keep listening. I also love the very different priorities and perspectives while reviewing and comparing cars as well. Truly one of the best car channels out there.

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti 2 года назад +2

    watching Thomas bounce up and down out of excitement at their OWN track is just wholesome :) True enthusiasts. you guys deserve it

  • @StandingUpForBetter
    @StandingUpForBetter 2 года назад +18

    Both of these cars are already legends especially with their 6 speed manuals. I only see their values increasing in the wake of the all electric future. Again, well done!

    • @S54VR6
      @S54VR6 2 месяца назад

      there is no electric future. literally defies physics. governments have convinced the public to invest in that garbage but it will never happen. fully electric cars will be an alternative vehicle just like diesels and hybrids.

  • @mikenormandy9250
    @mikenormandy9250 5 лет назад +15

    oh man, two of my dream cars! in ONE VIDEO?! Thanks TH!

  • @PeakPerformanceReviews
    @PeakPerformanceReviews 5 лет назад +26

    Two of my favourite cars of the moment, driven both and there both outstanding, can’t believe how close the CTR is considering the cost difference, I think with a basic tune the CTR would close the gap and they’d then be about the same .... which is ridiculous.
    Two of the best cars I’ve ever driven funny enough and so glad you did a direct comparison

  • @toddgrant6103
    @toddgrant6103 4 года назад +1

    Excellent testing as always! Great job!

  • @chaseadams8018
    @chaseadams8018 4 года назад +106

    Been thinking of selling my 15 Sti for a civic type r, living in AZ the awd is pointless for me.

    • @MsBigtom
      @MsBigtom 4 года назад +14

      I drove the STI and I have the Civic. The Civic is much more refined. The STI is like a truck. Smooth roads=Civic. Rough roads=STI.

    • @bullracing1
      @bullracing1 4 года назад +1

      Add a few more bucks and buy the Acura TLX Type S AWD.

    • @alexlopez2995
      @alexlopez2995 3 года назад +6

      I live in FL and got rid of my S2000 for a 19 Type R. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life but trading in my second s2000 for the Type R is not one of them. I fucking love this car so much. I could talk your ear off for hours about it but it be brief, it's a phenomenal car. My brother has a 17 STi and while its definitely quick, I don't feel like it's fast. It's a fast car that feels slow... The Type R is a fast car that feels fast.

    • @henrybrar
      @henrybrar 3 года назад +2

      @@bullracing1 No 6-Speed

    • @nozopoke1782
      @nozopoke1782 3 года назад +1

      I’m thinking of selliNg my manual mustang gt 2019 for a type r... not sure if I should

  • @brixtonmack10
    @brixtonmack10 5 лет назад +14

    This is quickly becoming my favourite car channel. Bell on and everything

  • @masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164
    @masterdriveroftoyotazupr4164 5 лет назад +696

    $30K Less
    2 More doors
    100Hp down
    Cheaper cost of ownership
    got beat by 1 sec. not bad at all.

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 5 лет назад +146

      2 extra cylinders
      Better chassis
      Rear wheel drive
      Better sounding
      Better looking
      Better resale value

    • @dufferego87
      @dufferego87 5 лет назад +323

      David C lmao. An M car and better resale value should never go in a same sentence. That thing will be half its original price in 2 years.

    • @skylineownzful
      @skylineownzful 5 лет назад +61

      @@dufferego87 and the honda will be 1/4 of its price. thats a stupid point. another fact is, that the overall build quality of the m2 is miles ahead of the honda

    • @dufferego87
      @dufferego87 5 лет назад +165

      SkyOwnZ imagine believing that.an accord holds 2/3 of its original price 5 years later. 90 thousand dollar m5 cost 30 thousand in 4 years. Type r is still selling for the same if not more than the sticker price 2 years later. What build quality? Being an unreliable machine is a build quality? Not buying that. But I’ll give you that m2 looks far better than the type r tho. Especially in person.

    • @tomchang88
      @tomchang88 5 лет назад +52

      @@skylineownzful 1/4 of it's price? Lol. Find me one and Ill go cash it out 2 years from now. EDIT* Forget 2 more years. I'll cash it out right now!

  • @DS-pk4eh
    @DS-pk4eh 4 года назад +1

    Just love these videos. Thank you guys a lot. Keep up the great work.

  • @Jefuri_Naiza
    @Jefuri_Naiza 4 года назад +310

    Dont forget the honda reliability

    • @ayayoutuber
      @ayayoutuber 4 года назад +31

      3 times the life of a BMW and half the price. 1 sec difference per loop...but drifting around you will need extra time to change tires in a race.

    • @lovelyxyz
      @lovelyxyz 4 года назад +3

      the biggest point of failure on the m2c is definitely the turbos haha

    • @TURE1215
      @TURE1215 4 года назад +20

      German engineering cant be compared to Japanaise engineering

    • @TheDalitis8
      @TheDalitis8 4 года назад +40

      In an ideal world, the BMW M2C is better than the Honda Type R, but in the real world (price, reliability, real-world performance) there is no comparison. Scotty Kilmer is right, the Honda Civic Typer R is probably the best car ever made.

    • @partyjerk
      @partyjerk 3 года назад +10

      @@TURE1215 Yeah, because german engineering isn't what it was in the 80's or 90's. For the last decade it's just garbage right off the warranty.

  • @WhiteGoldSynesthesia
    @WhiteGoldSynesthesia 5 лет назад +64

    Hot damn, that Thomas is a pro

  • @vlads2874
    @vlads2874 5 лет назад +3

    You guys are fun. My new favorite car review channel. No joke! More videos please!

  • @s7ai
    @s7ai 5 лет назад +1

    Great video guys! You nailed it with this one. At eye level with Top Gear and the likes

  • @sameralam1549
    @sameralam1549 4 года назад +16

    The type is really impressive, let’s just make sure A/C is turned off in both vehicles 💯 thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 5 лет назад +492

    We need M2 vs Supra!

    • @DeeJayAdverb
      @DeeJayAdverb 5 лет назад +21

      right!? I currently have a 2016 M4 and I am reeeeeaaaally thinking about a Supra once they release a hot version.

    • @pr0jectSkyneT
      @pr0jectSkyneT 5 лет назад +9

      Add a Cayman S on there too

    • @316328597
      @316328597 5 лет назад +4

      its same car

    • @pr0jectSkyneT
      @pr0jectSkyneT 5 лет назад +17

      @@316328597 the Supra share components with the BMW Z4 M40i not the M2.

    • @tng6628
      @tng6628 5 лет назад +11

      @@DeeJayAdverb I wouldn't go from S55 to B58. S55 has much more potential.

  • @petechar2261
    @petechar2261 5 лет назад +7

    Great video, you express your car passion quite well..that what it all about

  • @marktodd4479
    @marktodd4479 4 года назад +1

    now THAT"S how you do the graphics for running laps! great video guys.

  • @Maelstrom8
    @Maelstrom8 3 года назад +3

    Got my like just for James' shirt! Great video! Love the Type R.

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 5 лет назад +8

    Thank you guys for doing manual vs manul. You would be surprised how many times these are done imporperly. Great job! Thomas drifitng the M2 was Chris Harris good. Loved it

  • @sttng3.3r_68
    @sttng3.3r_68 5 лет назад +3

    That was amazing! You guys are the best!

  • @antonnugroho3724
    @antonnugroho3724 4 года назад +33

    I love Honda Civic Type R !!!

  • @amac8487
    @amac8487 5 лет назад +2

    Great video! Would never have thought civics were so capable thanks for the insight!

  • @DeeJayAdverb
    @DeeJayAdverb 5 лет назад +5

    Tom......amazing driving man. You're really making me want to do go the track in my f82....Amazing video guys!!!

  • @DaveyBee25
    @DaveyBee25 5 лет назад +144

    This channel supplying the goods 24/7

  • @PR1NCETD0T
    @PR1NCETD0T 4 года назад +138

    The Type R is faster on a track, its been proven on the nurburgring, it beat the M2 by a good 6.2 seconds. 7:43.8 over 7:50.

    • @grzegorzsynkracja426
      @grzegorzsynkracja426 3 года назад +1

      true:D .... Skoll:D Proost:D

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 3 года назад +5

      It depends on the track. If theres long straights, I'm sure the M2 would be faster, but something technical like the Nurburgring, the type R's downforce would make it faster

    • @PR1NCETD0T
      @PR1NCETD0T 3 года назад +2

      Ciello ___ lol its not just the M2, its beaten other cars with a lot more power than the M2 as well.

    • @LordHolley
      @LordHolley 3 года назад +3

      @@ciello___8307 Have you looked at the Nurburgring before? It has a lot of very long straits and most of the turns are high speed.

    • @mistamaog
      @mistamaog 3 года назад +1

      @Boss ` Every car on the Nurburgring needs a few mods for safety reasons.

  • @kenwong6536
    @kenwong6536 4 года назад +26

    Love the Type-R

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph8958 5 лет назад +109

    I am happy to see the Civic Type R while I am also happy to see the M2 in a manual transmission a real BMW

    • @Newzchspy
      @Newzchspy 5 лет назад +1

      BASITH PH so, any car made in auto is NOT real??

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 5 лет назад +17

      Newzchspy automatic cars are soulless.

    • @NaijaBull
      @NaijaBull 5 лет назад +8

      Newzchspy yes

    • @basithph8958
      @basithph8958 5 лет назад +5

      Newzchspy BMW is meant to be best driving machine and BMW with manual transmission is real driving machine
      The auto is good but the experience doesn’t compare to the manual

    • @JackRR15
      @JackRR15 5 лет назад +2

      @@basithph8958 Yeah it's great BMW still makes brand new BMW M2s and M3/M4 with manual transmission options.

  • @janakranchod
    @janakranchod 5 лет назад +22

    Just one recommendation - maybe include/do a rolling race instead a drag race, that way it takes driver/launching error out of the equation. Great comparison and really good video and info as always.

  • @nachtfuchs321
    @nachtfuchs321 4 года назад +2

    This was the first video I saw from you. You guys are really entertaining and work dreat together 😎👍
    Great track-battle, fun to watch!
    I think these two cars are quite comparable in terms of track performance. So I really like, that you just did that regardless what one could think of the comparison. The web is full of comparisons between M2, M4, C63, RS4 and so on. This one was really interesting 👍
    I really would like to hear a little more of the impressions you've got regarding to the steering, brakes, how likely it turns in etc. Especially the things each of the cars does quite better than the other one.
    Besides I really like to have a comparison with a Renault Megane RS, but that's just a personal thing 😄
    Keep doing, great work!
    😎💪

  • @Zeus-kj7nn
    @Zeus-kj7nn 5 лет назад +2

    Impressive powerslide in M2. You two know how to get the power down. Great review. Informative. And just nice. 👍.
    Subscribed.

  • @bumpinjeep
    @bumpinjeep 5 лет назад +9

    As a 2020 M2C owner, this started to make me sweat lol. Great content, keep it up!

  • @pappyodanial
    @pappyodanial 5 лет назад +322

    Nice M2 3rd gear power slide. A lot of reviewers don't have the balls (or skill) for that.

    • @stephenmac23
      @stephenmac23 5 лет назад +8

      *cough* matt farrah *cough*

    • @remilasoste9472
      @remilasoste9472 5 лет назад +14

      EXCEPT FOR CHRIS HARRIS

    • @Hakuna_My_Tatas
      @Hakuna_My_Tatas 5 лет назад +4

      A lot of folks who buys such car cant even bring out the cars full potential. Money cant buy you skill

    • @noth606
      @noth606 5 лет назад +1

      Vinskikauski Amourelius You seem to forget that's not what 98% of car buyers aim to or wish to do either, they buy a car because they like it and drive it like normal people on the road. And that's a good thing.

    • @Hakuna_My_Tatas
      @Hakuna_My_Tatas 5 лет назад +1

      noth606 true, not everyone buys cars/motorcyles to be the next Rossi aiming to break records. Some have the financial freedom to buy nice expensive sport cars, and some are true enthusiasts who appreciate what the machine can do. Not to say lack of skill buyers dont appreciate it, they are just limited by lack of trust i what it can do or just scared in general of crashing their precious trophy car. With that said, my statement was intended for those that buys expensive sport cars and think they are the shit. Plenty of vids here to exemplify that btw. Crashing expensive and often collectible vehicles due to lack of sense and skill. But hey, this is Murica!!!! SEND IT!!!!

  • @raymondlam8453
    @raymondlam8453 4 года назад +2

    Keep doing your great videos I love it!! And I can't hide that I love the M2 soooo much because of you guys! I hope I'll get one someday!

  • @TheTheShizzler
    @TheTheShizzler 2 года назад

    Oh my gosh.. going back and watching these older videos, I didn't know this was the first track race.. that's awesome

  • @trevormontague803
    @trevormontague803 5 лет назад +6

    glad to see you guys back at the track, I really enjoy your track content. What track was this filmed at?

  • @pqcpqcpqc
    @pqcpqcpqc 5 лет назад +3

    This is brilliant! Keep it up guys :)

  • @geraldchingambu8907
    @geraldchingambu8907 3 года назад

    Awesome track review guys. Shout out to James I love your woody♥️😊

  • @Pr0digy47
    @Pr0digy47 3 года назад +1

    Man they have my dream job. Love their content

  • @Anashere_Narrnda
    @Anashere_Narrnda 5 лет назад +244

    Considering how much the M2 have more hp and much more expensive and the difference is just 1 sec
    For me the type r is the real winner

    • @exiledrabbit
      @exiledrabbit 5 лет назад +26

      The only loser in my opinion is the person who has to be seen driving the type R, it just looks absurd

    • @cr2nr
      @cr2nr 5 лет назад +1

      True...and to be more even. Should got a reflash hondata typer . . . That! Would be interesting.

    • @cr2nr
      @cr2nr 5 лет назад +21

      @@exiledrabbit for you... That car to me is beautiful

    • @exiledrabbit
      @exiledrabbit 5 лет назад +7

      @@cr2nr I'm sorry to hear that

    • @davevil8750
      @davevil8750 5 лет назад +19

      @@exiledrabbit The car is amazing looking, its probably just too much car for you. :)

  • @dganaz
    @dganaz 5 лет назад +3

    Great job guys! Loved the review and track match of both cars! Definitely subscribing to your channel!

  • @BMWKelle
    @BMWKelle 5 лет назад +1

    This is a nice video with much emotions.

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 4 года назад

    such a ballin video!

  • @aconfusedazn
    @aconfusedazn 5 лет назад +20

    I didn’t know that Thomas was that good of a driver!

    • @tommiko8313
      @tommiko8313 3 года назад

      He wanted the BMW to win so drove ragged to mske sure it beat the type r as he knew he didnlt put that much effort when he set the time on the CTR. You can see he wasn't really trying on the CTR. IF they were hinest they;d do three runs on each aach and really drive to the potential of ezch ca for this track, pretty sure the CTR would have won..

    • @m3competitionracer788
      @m3competitionracer788 3 года назад

      @@tommiko8313 the Civic Type R is Nice and Iam thinking about buying one, because they are fun and quite cheap here in Germany and exotic......till now I only owned BMWs and I know the M2 C and Iam sure the Type R can’t beat it, the M2 is a track weapon and got 100 hp more

  • @princesiraj1
    @princesiraj1 5 лет назад +5

    "If you live somewhere it snows, you're probably as salty as we are... about rust on our cars." XD James and his jokes

  • @alecddaniels
    @alecddaniels 2 года назад

    The amount of fun Thomas has in the bmw is so funny and cool to see. And now he owns one! Congrats on how far you have come.

  • @jaimehernandez2377
    @jaimehernandez2377 2 года назад +4

    You save 20k by buying a type R. Use that 20k on upgrades and for the same price you have a way faster car with a lot more power

  • @ljpr360
    @ljpr360 5 лет назад +4

    What a great comparison video. Well done!
    For the price gap and ease of working on a Honda, I feel the Type R is the winner of this comparison.

  • @juanarielreyes
    @juanarielreyes 5 лет назад +102

    In nurburgring the bmw M2 make 7:52:36 with 6 cylinder and twin turbo. the Honda Type R make 7:43:80 with only 4 cylinder and one turbo obviously. the numbers says Typer R is better car.

    • @saucegodnas7318
      @saucegodnas7318 5 лет назад +6

      Weight is killer.

    • @nenadratic6319
      @nenadratic6319 5 лет назад +6

      Imagine if something is wrong with BMW . In USA if you come to the BMW diler and say :" good mourning , I do have a problems with my car .............." and you are not protected with waranty it will cost you 1000$ at list , and than will see how many $$$$$$$$ will bi after that . Honda engine is very close to perfect and all you have to do is regular maintenance ( oil, filters) and be vary patient after you start engine , never go with high RPM at cold engine. Once you warm up engine , you can not do nothing to this.
      My exp with two Hondas ( Civic's , for 20 yrs ) , about 500000+ miles ( 800000 km + ) , did not have one single problem . Regular maintenance and , run , run , run ............. The best engines ever made .
      About 10 yrs ago my good friend sad something like that :" Imagine if you will put Honda engine in BMW body , it will run for next 50 yrs without problems " . Very possible . I personaly think that BMW makes the best bodies , and Honda has the best engines .
      But , than what car mechanics will do than . Just change oil, tires , brakes and filters . No more fun with mechanics .
      But if you compare price and what you get for your money , than Honda is a far ahead BMW .

    • @iseeq72
      @iseeq72 5 лет назад +13

      forget that times... pick 2 cars freshly bought and completely STOCK... and the M2 beats that ugly pot by far on Nurburg...

    • @Chirock-dr5gx
      @Chirock-dr5gx 5 лет назад +18

      @@iseeq72 those r fresh bought stock times on the nurburg conducted by official trials dimwit.

    • @dzionisis
      @dzionisis 5 лет назад +9

      So because the Type R can go around a lap faster it automatically makes it a better car ? The Honda is a little shit box compared to a Bmw

  • @itsallrobbish
    @itsallrobbish 4 года назад +3

    Both superb, I’d love them both. For my pocket, though it’d have to be the Honda. Apart from the fact that it is ūber practical and reliable on top of its legendary pace, I think it’s gonna be a collectors car, eventually. I’d love the Beemer as a wee plaything, though. Another great video guys. Just love the Canadian pronunciation of any word with ou, in it!

  • @Marineavp
    @Marineavp 4 года назад +15

    450 vs 320 cv, a second is not great diference(and not mention price)

  • @jeremytd7072
    @jeremytd7072 5 лет назад +3

    What an awesome video. I may have watched the whole thing with a big ol’ shit eating grin. I love when you guys compare cars that most others wouldn’t.

  • @rajat_shama
    @rajat_shama 5 лет назад +3

    First time viewer.. and I'm already loving this channel ✌️✌️ FYI I'm also a car youtuber 😁

  • @renesolis2169
    @renesolis2169 4 года назад

    Awesome shirt bro!!! Love that M2 though

  • @jay108D
    @jay108D 4 года назад +2

    9:32 that Type-R intake is just so good

  • @Fitforacting
    @Fitforacting 5 лет назад +24

    I’ll take the Type R and invest the difference. Great video guys 🤙

    • @johnd9357
      @johnd9357 5 лет назад +3

      That’s what I did. It’s a monster on track. Turned mine into a time attack car and it is highly competitive.

    • @JacesOwnWorld
      @JacesOwnWorld 5 лет назад +1

      I’ll take a LS swapped Geo Metro, and invest the difference of the CTR lol

    • @johnd9357
      @johnd9357 5 лет назад +1

      Jace MK7 that would be baller as fuck honestly.

    • @Fitforacting
      @Fitforacting 5 лет назад +1

      Jace MK7 that would be a wild sleeper but would it fit??

    • @Fitforacting
      @Fitforacting 5 лет назад +1

      John D What have you done your CTR? Any regrets on something you put on it or didn’t put on (At purchase or aftermarket)
      Also how is your performance against Evos. I’ve heard the CTR beats it stock to stock.
      Lastly what do you think about Honda making an all wheel drive CTR in the future? What would it take for you to switch cars?

  • @K20Elite23
    @K20Elite23 5 лет назад +18

    Awesome vid guys! Was pulling for the Type R as well lol

  • @LoveLikeaHurricane
    @LoveLikeaHurricane 4 года назад +1

    Saw a white M2 competition on the showroom floor yesterday. I think it was listed for 60k. I am very happy about my Type R purchase.

  • @langamaphumulo5009
    @langamaphumulo5009 4 года назад +2

    I enjoyed this video,i'll go with the beema because of the driving experience it gives you.Its price tag couldn't sway me or make me settle for anything lesser.I believe in the BMW brand and everything it comes with,including the price tag.

  • @Spikestriple
    @Spikestriple 5 лет назад +20

    Love my CTR, but if I didn’t need 4 doors & could afford the M2C I would definitely get the Bimmer lol.

    • @sunnyschebesta2358
      @sunnyschebesta2358 5 лет назад

      Bullshit, straight 6 cant be destroyed, mine has 220000km and drives like a new car

    • @josefgriveas7113
      @josefgriveas7113 5 лет назад +9

      Sunny Schebesta you’re a fucking idiot for sure 😂you might as well compare a Maserati to a Toyota in reliability as well

    • @King88_8
      @King88_8 4 года назад

      Noone ever needs 4 doors....

    • @RenanJeffrey
      @RenanJeffrey 4 года назад +3

      @@King88_8 Wait until you grow up

    • @King88_8
      @King88_8 4 года назад +1

      @@RenanJeffrey nope. All grown up. Stuff goes in the boot, people go thru front door.. now if you said wait until youre obese, might be a different story. 370z, R32 GTR.. manage the same as using the SUV or my little hatch. well the 370z might be a tad shite even for grocery shopping

  • @mrkruger5108
    @mrkruger5108 5 лет назад +7

    They are both brilliant cars

  • @conspiracykill
    @conspiracykill 4 года назад

    Reminds me of home when Thomas says "about" Thomas say " figure it out" next! Lol

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 5 лет назад +8

    Surprised you didn't talk more about the weight difference on the track. The lighter Civic probably makes a large difference in feel, turn in, braking, etc. No amount of power makes a heavy car feel light.

  • @thegameduo1827
    @thegameduo1827 5 лет назад +7

    Impressive cars! I’m a M2 Competition lover and I’m impressed by the Type-R. What a machine 😍 #jdm

  • @TenzaMotorsports
    @TenzaMotorsports 5 лет назад +6

    I’m very BMW biased, but yea, that civic is good little car. Great comparison.

  • @Tino2o9
    @Tino2o9 4 года назад +25

    While the M2 is priced higher, it has a more premium and refined look. I know the intent of the type r was to be aggressive/functional with the wing etc... but it screams racer boy to me

    • @djhh83
      @djhh83 3 года назад

      WeLl but THE CiVic is AlMoSt as FAsT

    • @djhh83
      @djhh83 3 года назад +6

      People don't get this, they don't get that the bmws are actually comfortable, luxurious and good looking

    • @timmang7891
      @timmang7891 3 года назад

      It's the Japanese design language in recent years.

    • @TheDrvenisovac
      @TheDrvenisovac 3 года назад +2

      It may be comfortable, i wouldn't know; luxurious, yeah, might be; but goddamn, that M2 dashboard looks like it's been stolen from 2005. Rest of the cockpit followed suit, with tablet-style infotainment screen already looking dated.

    • @marcusrodriguez845
      @marcusrodriguez845 3 года назад

      Eduard Teglenenco the type r has a better Nurburgring time for half the price, that’s pretty sad buddy

  • @mahdisharegh7220
    @mahdisharegh7220 5 лет назад

    Awesome video

  • @x3Ryosukeee
    @x3Ryosukeee 5 лет назад +26

    What I love about the Type R, is that you save 30k on the M2C, spent another 10k - 15k on the chassis and engine and I'm sure the Type R will blow the M2C away on the track.
    Great review lads. Subscribed.

    • @bamphmx-5548
      @bamphmx-5548 5 лет назад +11

      But then you still have a 4 banger ricer car with fwd. The M2 has rwd and a very good inline 6. If you spent 20k on the M2c you can blow Ferraris.

    • @x3Ryosukeee
      @x3Ryosukeee 5 лет назад +13

      @@bamphmx-5548 I mean, firstly that's your own opinion regarding the In-line 4 vs. In-line 6. Yes it would be nice to have a RWD car with more power. But my point was that the Type R is a much better track car for value of money. Like I said, the Type R is 30k CHEAPER than the M2, and only has 0.9s difference on the track. All I care about is track times in this case. And the Type R is so much better than the M2 because I don't have to spend as much money for the same/more performance.
      Of course you could spend an extra 20k on the M2 and destroy Ferrari's/Porsche's whatever. But that amounts to TWO Type R's. I ain't rich, the Type R is already out of my budget so this is all "realistic hypothetical"

    • @nlouisf
      @nlouisf 5 лет назад +1

      Lol gve the respect where it's due the m2 the better car bro

    • @clutchfreak13
      @clutchfreak13 5 лет назад +17

      @@nlouisf its 70k car. Let that sink in , 70! For 70k it shoud be better but it's only 0.9 sec better for almost double the price, so in the end. CTR is MUCH better car!

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 5 лет назад +11

      BAMPh MX-5 the thing is it’s not a ricer. Calling a the type r a ricer is something an actual ricer would do.

  • @ConEnigma
    @ConEnigma 5 лет назад +11

    Even though I’m a BMW fan and have own one. Still want that type R Honda.

  • @mehmetcosgun7568
    @mehmetcosgun7568 4 года назад +1

    Wind Turbines in background is nice, they are from the company i work for in Denmark :) :)

  • @wild_goose_0285
    @wild_goose_0285 3 года назад +3

    I can't believe that Thomas still hadn't subbed to himself by now.

  • @lifenz1
    @lifenz1 5 лет назад +238

    Who else here love the type r 😃

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch 4 года назад +6

      Love it and own one too. My nicest car ever

    • @irzaidm292
      @irzaidm292 4 года назад

      I ❤️ that car, Gundam Car(Type R FK8)

    • @codefk8711
      @codefk8711 4 года назад +1

      Love it so much that I own one lol

    • @cybercityoedo808
      @cybercityoedo808 4 года назад +3

      I got a Championship White FK8, it handles even better than my STI.

    • @seansurfn2
      @seansurfn2 4 года назад

      @Akemi SAIFULL looks ugly af.. and im a honda guy lol

  • @D-Man_Jam
    @D-Man_Jam 5 лет назад +197

    Are we really in a reality where a BMW M can barely compete with a Civic?... 🤣

    • @XMyouth
      @XMyouth 5 лет назад +14

      Yeah...qmd the type r air con was on during the track test. Not a fare assessment.

    • @gregblack8550
      @gregblack8550 4 года назад +10

      A regular m would be almost dead even with a civic. Oh thank God in heaven we live nowdays.

    • @gregblack8550
      @gregblack8550 4 года назад +25

      We are at a time when buying premium brands is not really worth it. Look at the Kia stinger and the genesis brand. Even the stuff like Acura -Infinity and the like are not that much better than lower priced cars. We thought we wanted a60k red sport Infinity. We test drove and were so unimpressed. Look at interior of a Mazda CX-9 compared to a bmw. There is not 20 k dif and does not drive much better if at all . I think that manufacturing techniques are so close nowdays that the brands are becoming irrelevant.Not sure if this holds water for the American brands but my wife’s n2015 sho went 160 k with no promblems and was a nice car.

    • @MalishinaRezidencija
      @MalishinaRezidencija 4 года назад +15

      BMW is better😃😉

    • @solraczetined5951
      @solraczetined5951 4 года назад +30

      @@MalishinaRezidencija better at leaking alot of engine oil after the 30k miles

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida 4 года назад +1

    I miss these track reviews.

  • @Hectorszenshopedc
    @Hectorszenshopedc 3 года назад

    This guys are great 👍

  • @grisa12345
    @grisa12345 5 лет назад +10

    M2 competition vs 718 Cayman gts please...

  • @drew5200
    @drew5200 5 лет назад +3

    Finally something to look at besides the Knicks 🤣🤣 lmao❗️

  • @Barrettcoronalight
    @Barrettcoronalight 2 года назад +2

    In the end it was between the fk8, m2 comp, and the RS3. I ended up with the civic. Awesome car.

  • @kswis
    @kswis 4 месяца назад

    I drove a camry for many years, just got an audi A6 3.0t Quattro. It feels (to me) like the best handling car on the planet. Though I know it's far from it, it's the most exhilarating car I've owned in over a decade. I'm going to assume to drive a more track focused M3 would be waay better but I just can't imagine it coming from a dependable, cheap to drive freaking camry! Hell of a time to be alive! Keep the great content coming!