BMW M2 Competition vs Honda Civic Type R - TRACK REVIEW // DRAG RACE & LAP TIMES
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- THE FIRST IN A FULL TRACK SERIES! James and Thomas take the new 2019 BMW M2 Competition and pit it against the 2019 Honda Civic Type R in a full track test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times! Can the lightness of the Type R defeat the powerful but much heavier BMW? Let's find out!
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Just the fact that the Honda was paired with this serious BMW tells you loads about how competent the Honda is.
@Fire Heart the weakest engine on f1. You know honda engines are jokes on f1 right ?
@Fire Heart honda nsx is faster than any bmw
Mclaren F1: hold my tea
@Fire Heart no innovative engines from bmw? Bmw received most world awards from their engine.
@@klauserji Honda MP4/4 with its RA168E V6 engine was a joke right. Just one of the most successfull F1 cars of all times.. You must live in a world where F1 history started after 2010s
@@starpier No but we live in 2020 and Germans rule the game right now
So the BMW is almost double the price And has almost 100 hp more And is 1 second faster......oké.....Good Job Honda!
You spoiled it for me u owe me a sub tbh
Ed Jack so even worse
give it a proper track and see the difference mate.
@@zetcelsiuss honestly
Do you know how long a second is in a lap?
I'd take the type R and use the extra 30k for a used truck and boat to do some fishing on the weekends. 🤘
Yooo that smart move
Bravo!
Hell yea
I'd buy 2 type Rs
Or use $600 to put a tune on it and watch it lap the Beemer
@@lucasmilik7626 cause u cant tune a bmw
Says a lot about the Type R that it's being compared to a car twice its price.
Hardly, the M2 isn't double the price, it's £10k less than double. An M240i is the same price and still demolishes the Type R in every way.
Keep in mind the Type R also has a lot more room for additional buildable aftermarket horsepower (some of these are already at well over 400 hp) and a whole crap load of suspension upgrades. And the reliable Honda nameplate to boot. Not so much for the Beemer. Very little support offered from the aftermarket, and as well from BMW itself.
Doctor Zaius BMW has tons of Aftermarket support
@@ZEWCHOOB where i live the BMtroublu is more than double the price.. and even if it wasnt and say was only 1/3 more its still not worth it over the CTR.. Honda all the way.
@@pswmetalmonkey An M2 is better than a Civic Type R in literally every single way. The Civic just looks fucking awful. And 300 BHP FWD, ooo wow, ho exciting! It's boring, ugly, and has a bad interior. Unless you're 14 and still into Hot Wheels I don't understand how anybody can be appealed by this car.
The One Punch Man sweatshirt is absolutely the star of this video.
this comment should have soooo many more likes
Yep, next time Tokyo Ghoul. 😂
Nurburgring times:
1) Honda Civic Type R: 7 minutes 43.8 Seconds
2) BMW M2: 7 minutes 50 seconds
Yes but not competition m2!
@@ervinmb they literally said m2 comp. 0:37
Hey! Now not throw in comparisons from a proper track with real times! I own a FK2, got a FK8 on order. These cars are absolutely mental. I wanted an M2 comp, but the price is double here which is just silly. And no....BMW quality is not better then Honda, though Honda quality is not what it used to be.
@@anantbijolia8415 He's implying that the lap time was not the m2 competition. It was easy asf to distinguish, fuckin facepalm LMAO
@@ervinmb The official lap time of BMW M test driver Jörg Weidinger in the M2 Competition was 7:50 minutes, so fairly close to the Sport Auto time.
Soichiro Honda once said “without racing, there would be no Honda”. Wise words from a wise man.
The only company that has dominated every major motorsport. F1 ( Marlboro McLaren Honda), MotoGP, Isle of Man TT, Paris Dakar.
Nothing but facts under this comment lol
Its all about the K baby! When it comes to Honda, the K is king. I got a all motor 320hp K20A2 in my 2001 Civic. People never suspect anything until my VTEC kicks in at 4500! #beastmode
DaReoCharmer I just have 09 Accord. It’s slow and big, but I’m always reving it up to redline lol
@@kanemnewton6153 If you have the one with the K24. You can be build that thing into a monster. Race cams is the last thing I can add but I dont think its needed. 320hp vs 360hp isnt gonna make a big difference for a daily driver. I already feel like its too fast for my lead foot #impulsive
both also very good cars
and the few last cars we still can purchase in real manual gearbox
MX-5 184ps
@@albopastrami9269 MX 5 is great if you're under 5 foot 8
Yes, the Manuals!
00:31 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
00:37 “HONDA CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
1:35 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”
3:55 “IN THE CIVIC TYPE AAAAHH”
4:45 “THE TYPE AAAAHH”
💀💀
😂😂😂
Lmao 💀💀💀💀
Hahahahaha
That M2 is a beauty. The Type R is incredibly impressive for $37,000USD.
if only it could actually be purchased for that price
Impressive when its 100hp under. Not many cars can come even close with that difference
Yeah, The Type R is amazing for 4 dr / fwd vs BMW M2 2 dr/rwd sports car. Still... I'd save up for the M2.
@@bmorlok1 my local dealer has it listed for $55k
Attomsk my next door neighbor got one for $36,499 I saw the invoice.
Unbelievable, the Type R has amazing tech!!!
That’s impressive how well the Honda is made.
Bob Ross Toyota Camry V6 are fast sleepers, 2007 camry V6 can tie with the type R.
Cristopher Reeves FWD does not suck, it is way more reliable than AWD!!
Bob Ross the 2007 camry V6 is even faster, it does 0-80 mph in just under 8 seconds!
Bob Ross 2020 does 0-100 in 13-14 seconds i believe, thing about the 2020 camry is TOO MUCH POWER, NO GRIP, I sometimes put my 2007 camry V6 on 93 octane and they can creep up on a Infiniti G37 and smoke V6 camaros and mustangs!
Ye full of fake parts
BMW have 2 cylinders and 100hp more, and I'm impressed with time of Honda.
At nurburgring, honda made a record FWD car with a European model that has 14hp more.
Power output is the same. Power is calculated differently for the Civic in EU.EU's DIN method of measurement is slightly different from the US' SAE. Europe certifies using 98 RON (octane) fuel, where the US fuel for SAE net certification is 95 RON
@@painkilerr No, power output is not same. Its the same engine, just different software. Honda has reduced the power because the USA does not have high octane fuel available.
The reason is very simple, Honda wants to have a reliable high performance engine.
Well done Honda.
@@anteperkovic111 so then the European model doesnt have more power but better fuel. The engine is the same
@@painkilerr The europen model engine is tuned to 98 octane. ECU map is different and power is different.
Listen in the 15:20min:
ruclips.net/video/dibClbd-Tx0/видео.html
@@anteperkovic111 not sure if English is your second language but I did watch part of the video. When the guy asked : so what is the difference, reply : Fuel. You just my proved point for me.
that one punch man sweater is gang
one puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunch
Saitama would never be in a gang! He's a hero for fu... I mean a professional hero and people just choose to follow him!
@@biggboysouth ok nerd
@@AshishKulkarni0506 ok geek
Thats what I remember the most! hahah
The Type R is faster on a track, its been proven on the nurburgring, it beat the M2 by a good 6.2 seconds. 7:43.8 over 7:50.
true:D .... Skoll:D Proost:D
It depends on the track. If theres long straights, I'm sure the M2 would be faster, but something technical like the Nurburgring, the type R's downforce would make it faster
Ciello ___ lol its not just the M2, its beaten other cars with a lot more power than the M2 as well.
@@ciello___8307 Have you looked at the Nurburgring before? It has a lot of very long straits and most of the turns are high speed.
@Boss ` Every car on the Nurburgring needs a few mods for safety reasons.
No bullshit; the chemistry you guys are developing is like the good old days of Top Gear. This is comfortably the funniest car review channel on RUclips, and I had to pause the video after the stop watch gag because I was laughing too hard to keep listening. I also love the very different priorities and perspectives while reviewing and comparing cars as well. Truly one of the best car channels out there.
Layne Dingman day made, thanks Layne!
Two of my favourite cars of the moment, driven both and there both outstanding, can’t believe how close the CTR is considering the cost difference, I think with a basic tune the CTR would close the gap and they’d then be about the same .... which is ridiculous.
Two of the best cars I’ve ever driven funny enough and so glad you did a direct comparison
M2 Competition is great, but the 30k difference between them would make me pick the Type R...
Not only the money my friend, the reliability is most important and the resale value
@@julioserna5659 reliability def isn't the most important
@@kristians2704 nah it is. You’ve no idea how annoying and fruatratit is to deal with dealerships and mechanics.
@@xoxoj OMG man I totally agree with you.
@@xoxoj The Type R has and will have a lot more reliability issues than the M2. This is not 1980s. The Japanese fell behind in reliability since the early 2000s.
$30K Less
2 More doors
100Hp down
Cheaper cost of ownership
got beat by 1 sec. not bad at all.
2 extra cylinders
Better chassis
Rear wheel drive
Better sounding
Better looking
Better resale value
David C lmao. An M car and better resale value should never go in a same sentence. That thing will be half its original price in 2 years.
@@dufferego87 and the honda will be 1/4 of its price. thats a stupid point. another fact is, that the overall build quality of the m2 is miles ahead of the honda
SkyOwnZ imagine believing that.an accord holds 2/3 of its original price 5 years later. 90 thousand dollar m5 cost 30 thousand in 4 years. Type r is still selling for the same if not more than the sticker price 2 years later. What build quality? Being an unreliable machine is a build quality? Not buying that. But I’ll give you that m2 looks far better than the type r tho. Especially in person.
@@skylineownzful 1/4 of it's price? Lol. Find me one and Ill go cash it out 2 years from now. EDIT* Forget 2 more years. I'll cash it out right now!
For a long time i wanted to see a race between a TypeR and a BMW M2. Thanks!
3500 was a decent launch point but I launch mine at 3200. 8600 redline with my K20A2 spewing 320hp
I want people to go back and realize the air conditioning was on in the type r during the hot laps. In a 2 liter engine, that is going to make a difference.
@@XMyouth when does it mention the AC being on in the civic?
To sum it up - pay an extra 30k for the BMW, and get an extra 1s lead
@@neds3685 the M2 is a RWD sports car and the Type R is a FWD hatchback. Also 1 sec is quite a lot on a track
That Civic can still keep up with a car twice it’s price. Truly amazing
I mean if we’re being honest main reason it’s so pricey is because of the name brand
No
Its not twice its price first off and m2 has WAY better interior
@Brendan Caldwell kinda picking straws aren't ya? 7k of from being twice the price, there ya happy? And also...fk8 interior is better and with better seats. Good day
where the fuck are yall getting "twice the price" Honda MSRP 37k M2C MSRP 57K
Lol! The humor is seamless with you guys. Great driving! Looking forward to the track day videos.
What ...humour .... .lol that's funny
Both of these cars are already legends especially with their 6 speed manuals. I only see their values increasing in the wake of the all electric future. Again, well done!
there is no electric future. literally defies physics. governments have convinced the public to invest in that garbage but it will never happen. fully electric cars will be an alternative vehicle just like diesels and hybrids.
4:57 *mercedes just pretending to be a wind turbine watching from afar when it comes to racing* 😄
Hahaha...😂😂😂😂
Just one recommendation - maybe include/do a rolling race instead a drag race, that way it takes driver/launching error out of the equation. Great comparison and really good video and info as always.
Even at a roll the Type-R would be smoked.
Been thinking of selling my 15 Sti for a civic type r, living in AZ the awd is pointless for me.
I drove the STI and I have the Civic. The Civic is much more refined. The STI is like a truck. Smooth roads=Civic. Rough roads=STI.
Add a few more bucks and buy the Acura TLX Type S AWD.
I live in FL and got rid of my S2000 for a 19 Type R. I have made a lot of mistakes in my life but trading in my second s2000 for the Type R is not one of them. I fucking love this car so much. I could talk your ear off for hours about it but it be brief, it's a phenomenal car. My brother has a 17 STi and while its definitely quick, I don't feel like it's fast. It's a fast car that feels slow... The Type R is a fast car that feels fast.
@@bullracing1 No 6-Speed
I’m thinking of selliNg my manual mustang gt 2019 for a type r... not sure if I should
Dont forget the honda reliability
3 times the life of a BMW and half the price. 1 sec difference per loop...but drifting around you will need extra time to change tires in a race.
the biggest point of failure on the m2c is definitely the turbos haha
German engineering cant be compared to Japanaise engineering
In an ideal world, the BMW M2C is better than the Honda Type R, but in the real world (price, reliability, real-world performance) there is no comparison. Scotty Kilmer is right, the Honda Civic Typer R is probably the best car ever made.
@@PutinIsKing Yeah, because german engineering isn't what it was in the 80's or 90's. For the last decade it's just garbage right off the warranty.
This channel supplying the goods 24/7
We need M2 vs Supra!
right!? I currently have a 2016 M4 and I am reeeeeaaaally thinking about a Supra once they release a hot version.
Add a Cayman S on there too
its same car
@@316328597 the Supra share components with the BMW Z4 M40i not the M2.
@@DeeJayAdverb I wouldn't go from S55 to B58. S55 has much more potential.
I drove a camry for many years, just got an audi A6 3.0t Quattro. It feels (to me) like the best handling car on the planet. Though I know it's far from it, it's the most exhilarating car I've owned in over a decade. I'm going to assume to drive a more track focused M3 would be waay better but I just can't imagine it coming from a dependable, cheap to drive freaking camry! Hell of a time to be alive! Keep the great content coming!
oh man, two of my dream cars! in ONE VIDEO?! Thanks TH!
I am happy to see the Civic Type R while I am also happy to see the M2 in a manual transmission a real BMW
BASITH PH so, any car made in auto is NOT real??
Newzchspy automatic cars are soulless.
Newzchspy yes
Newzchspy BMW is meant to be best driving machine and BMW with manual transmission is real driving machine
The auto is good but the experience doesn’t compare to the manual
@@basithph8958 Yeah it's great BMW still makes brand new BMW M2s and M3/M4 with manual transmission options.
watching Thomas bounce up and down out of excitement at their OWN track is just wholesome :) True enthusiasts. you guys deserve it
Considering how much the M2 have more hp and much more expensive and the difference is just 1 sec
For me the type r is the real winner
The only loser in my opinion is the person who has to be seen driving the type R, it just looks absurd
True...and to be more even. Should got a reflash hondata typer . . . That! Would be interesting.
@@exiledrabbit for you... That car to me is beautiful
@@cr2nr I'm sorry to hear that
@@exiledrabbit The car is amazing looking, its probably just too much car for you. :)
This is quickly becoming my favourite car channel. Bell on and everything
The type is really impressive, let’s just make sure A/C is turned off in both vehicles 💯 thanks for the video 👍🏻
Thank you guys for doing manual vs manul. You would be surprised how many times these are done imporperly. Great job! Thomas drifitng the M2 was Chris Harris good. Loved it
Hot damn, that Thomas is a pro
I love Honda Civic Type R !!!
Need type R soon but first I need the money lmao
Ever get the type r?
Nice M2 3rd gear power slide. A lot of reviewers don't have the balls (or skill) for that.
*cough* matt farrah *cough*
EXCEPT FOR CHRIS HARRIS
A lot of folks who buys such car cant even bring out the cars full potential. Money cant buy you skill
Vinskikauski Amourelius You seem to forget that's not what 98% of car buyers aim to or wish to do either, they buy a car because they like it and drive it like normal people on the road. And that's a good thing.
noth606 true, not everyone buys cars/motorcyles to be the next Rossi aiming to break records. Some have the financial freedom to buy nice expensive sport cars, and some are true enthusiasts who appreciate what the machine can do. Not to say lack of skill buyers dont appreciate it, they are just limited by lack of trust i what it can do or just scared in general of crashing their precious trophy car. With that said, my statement was intended for those that buys expensive sport cars and think they are the shit. Plenty of vids here to exemplify that btw. Crashing expensive and often collectible vehicles due to lack of sense and skill. But hey, this is Murica!!!! SEND IT!!!!
450 vs 320 cv, a second is not great diference(and not mention price)
I’ll take the Type R and invest the difference. Great video guys 🤙
That’s what I did. It’s a monster on track. Turned mine into a time attack car and it is highly competitive.
I’ll take a LS swapped Geo Metro, and invest the difference of the CTR lol
Jace MK7 that would be baller as fuck honestly.
Jace MK7 that would be a wild sleeper but would it fit??
John D What have you done your CTR? Any regrets on something you put on it or didn’t put on (At purchase or aftermarket)
Also how is your performance against Evos. I’ve heard the CTR beats it stock to stock.
Lastly what do you think about Honda making an all wheel drive CTR in the future? What would it take for you to switch cars?
What I love about the Type R, is that you save 30k on the M2C, spent another 10k - 15k on the chassis and engine and I'm sure the Type R will blow the M2C away on the track.
Great review lads. Subscribed.
But then you still have a 4 banger ricer car with fwd. The M2 has rwd and a very good inline 6. If you spent 20k on the M2c you can blow Ferraris.
@@bamphmx-5548 I mean, firstly that's your own opinion regarding the In-line 4 vs. In-line 6. Yes it would be nice to have a RWD car with more power. But my point was that the Type R is a much better track car for value of money. Like I said, the Type R is 30k CHEAPER than the M2, and only has 0.9s difference on the track. All I care about is track times in this case. And the Type R is so much better than the M2 because I don't have to spend as much money for the same/more performance.
Of course you could spend an extra 20k on the M2 and destroy Ferrari's/Porsche's whatever. But that amounts to TWO Type R's. I ain't rich, the Type R is already out of my budget so this is all "realistic hypothetical"
Lol gve the respect where it's due the m2 the better car bro
@@nlouisf its 70k car. Let that sink in , 70! For 70k it shoud be better but it's only 0.9 sec better for almost double the price, so in the end. CTR is MUCH better car!
BAMPh MX-5 the thing is it’s not a ricer. Calling a the type r a ricer is something an actual ricer would do.
Love the Type-R
What a great comparison video. Well done!
For the price gap and ease of working on a Honda, I feel the Type R is the winner of this comparison.
As a 2020 M2C owner, this started to make me sweat lol. Great content, keep it up!
People who hate on the type r really don’t know what it can do... one of the fastest track fwd car, only 300hp? No problem HP isn’t always everything, and for those who think HP is everything and think it’s slow just because it only has 300, then you don’t know much. For example a v6 camaro is faster than a rt charger because of the weight. Not always about HP and Cylinders, the way the Type R drives around corner feels like it’s glued to the ground
Yeah I set fastest time of the day in a track sprint and there was some pretty powerful muscle cars in the group. Cornering speed gave me the advantage in certain section of the track to get a good time.
I’m very BMW biased, but yea, that civic is good little car. Great comparison.
I didn’t know that Thomas was that good of a driver!
He wanted the BMW to win so drove ragged to mske sure it beat the type r as he knew he didnlt put that much effort when he set the time on the CTR. You can see he wasn't really trying on the CTR. IF they were hinest they;d do three runs on each aach and really drive to the potential of ezch ca for this track, pretty sure the CTR would have won..
@@tommiko8313 the Civic Type R is Nice and Iam thinking about buying one, because they are fun and quite cheap here in Germany and exotic......till now I only owned BMWs and I know the M2 C and Iam sure the Type R can’t beat it, the M2 is a track weapon and got 100 hp more
Surprised you didn't talk more about the weight difference on the track. The lighter Civic probably makes a large difference in feel, turn in, braking, etc. No amount of power makes a heavy car feel light.
Awesome vid guys! Was pulling for the Type R as well lol
Tom......amazing driving man. You're really making me want to do go the track in my f82....Amazing video guys!!!
Saw a white M2 competition on the showroom floor yesterday. I think it was listed for 60k. I am very happy about my Type R purchase.
glad to see you guys back at the track, I really enjoy your track content. What track was this filmed at?
Love my CTR, but if I didn’t need 4 doors & could afford the M2C I would definitely get the Bimmer lol.
Bullshit, straight 6 cant be destroyed, mine has 220000km and drives like a new car
Sunny Schebesta you’re a fucking idiot for sure 😂you might as well compare a Maserati to a Toyota in reliability as well
Noone ever needs 4 doors....
@@King88_8 Wait until you grow up
@@RenanJeffrey nope. All grown up. Stuff goes in the boot, people go thru front door.. now if you said wait until youre obese, might be a different story. 370z, R32 GTR.. manage the same as using the SUV or my little hatch. well the 370z might be a tad shite even for grocery shopping
In the end it was between the fk8, m2 comp, and the RS3. I ended up with the civic. Awesome car.
Got my like just for James' shirt! Great video! Love the Type R.
I'm a BMW loyalist and I love the Type R lol, seriously considering trading in my BMW F32 for the type R...
Ditto
I recommend it! My parents owned a Honda that was 20 years old, had 350k kilometres and was never in the shop (during the few years and 200k kilometres they out in it) totaling 550k kilometres!
@Boss ` they aren’t number one but still the top three in the world lmao (according to other car mags like Motortrend and a friend I know that works in a mechanic shop) my mechanic friend says they are 100000 x better than any American vehicle you can get...
@@dazednconfusedrnWhat do you mean they aren't number one? Honda represents the pinnacle of both quality and economy in vehicles. Even German manufacturers would envy Japanese cars, as they cannot match the superior engine quality.
Oh my gosh.. going back and watching these older videos, I didn't know this was the first track race.. that's awesome
"If you live somewhere it snows, you're probably as salty as we are... about rust on our cars." XD James and his jokes
The Type R will have ZERO issues compared to that M2 when the odometer goes over 50,000 miles.
I took a road trip from LA to Victorville and i saw nothing but BMWs stuck on the side of the road because of car issues LOL. You won’t see a civic stuck on the side of a road. I love my civic 💙
@@azureharris8647 My statement is solid, i know because I drive a BMW! When finances are straight again I'm heading right back to Honda! Should have never left in the first place!
@@azureharris8647Yet people claim that BMW is the best car ever. It’s merely a matter of jealousy; they can't afford a Honda, which boasts the finest and most economical engines.
Proud Type r owner over here 👍👍
FK8 owner here, but i think my FK2 was more fun :-) Well, actually, the EP3 was more fun.
Proud owner from Malaysia 👍
Impressive cars! I’m a M2 Competition lover and I’m impressed by the Type-R. What a machine 😍 #jdm
If the M2 Comp is comparable to a Honda Civic Type R, then is the BMW 2 series comparable to the Honda Civic Si and Subaru WRX?
Yeah lol
I just bought a 2023 M2. I can't wait for her to arrive.
Even though I’m a BMW fan and have own one. Still want that type R Honda.
So, you are inclined to squander money on a car that can't even endure for a minimum of five years?
With the price gap, can you spend that price on the civic to match the M2? I would love to see the aftermath
Just came to see bmw and honda lovers fight ✊🏻
I underestimated that Honda. Great video fellas
Everyone does they always hate on Honda but they make the best engines in the world and they have great track cars like the old type r s2000 and the new type r
I don't hate Honda. They make great cars, just didn't expect it to do so well. For instance i like my kid but when he came home with an A+ in science i was surprised 😂
@@gsjourney3054 best engines in the world? no
Great video, you express your car passion quite well..that what it all about
Excellent testing as always! Great job!
9:32 that Type-R intake is just so good
type r much smoother in the corner .. I can feel the drivers movement
I enjoyed this video,i'll go with the beema because of the driving experience it gives you.Its price tag couldn't sway me or make me settle for anything lesser.I believe in the BMW brand and everything it comes with,including the price tag.
You save 20k by buying a type R. Use that 20k on upgrades and for the same price you have a way faster car with a lot more power
While the M2 is priced higher, it has a more premium and refined look. I know the intent of the type r was to be aggressive/functional with the wing etc... but it screams racer boy to me
WeLl but THE CiVic is AlMoSt as FAsT
People don't get this, they don't get that the bmws are actually comfortable, luxurious and good looking
It's the Japanese design language in recent years.
It may be comfortable, i wouldn't know; luxurious, yeah, might be; but goddamn, that M2 dashboard looks like it's been stolen from 2005. Rest of the cockpit followed suit, with tablet-style infotainment screen already looking dated.
Eduard Teglenenco the type r has a better Nurburgring time for half the price, that’s pretty sad buddy
Just love these videos. Thank you guys a lot. Keep up the great work.
M2 competition vs 718 Cayman gts please...
Type R has 4 doors and is still lighter than the 2 door M2. Trust me when I say the Type R is a 4 door go-kart with its handling response and precision, and the acceleration in the car is very very strong. I'm happy to own one of these beasts.
Great video guys! You nailed it with this one. At eye level with Top Gear and the likes
Most people just hate on the Type R because it's that good. A true car enthusiast would respect each car for what it is.
It’s not about the car’s appearance; it’s about the engine.
Yet people claim that BMW is the best car ever. It’s merely a matter of jealousy; they can't afford a Honda, which boasts the finest and most economical engines.
BMW Z4 M40i vs TOYOTA SUPRA *PLZ*
That will be interesting. I have a feeling the Supra will be quicker round a track as it looks like its setup for it. The Z4M will be a beast
Ivor Problem there wont be any z4M
@@turbos7780 The Z4 M40i isn't the Z4M you mean. It's the top engine avaliable for BMW non M cars. The new Toyota Supra is powered by it, too.
CarĐesıgnø no cause you said the z4M will be a beast hut they wont make a z4M the only one thats going to be available is the z4 M40i thats it
@@turbos7780 when did I say that. I'm sorry but I don't recall.
I just found out that I am going to have to commute about 250 miles round trip 4 days a week so I just bought a 2019 Touring CTR sight unseen never drove one but it will be her in a couple day wearing some high performance Winter tires and my summer tires in the back of the truck so time will tell, I wanted decent comfort reliability and decent gas mileage... and to destroy my Central Missouri Backroads when I get near my house so I think this will be a winner. Yes it's ridiculous looking and I am old but I still love corners and speed.
Both superb, I’d love them both. For my pocket, though it’d have to be the Honda. Apart from the fact that it is ūber practical and reliable on top of its legendary pace, I think it’s gonna be a collectors car, eventually. I’d love the Beemer as a wee plaything, though. Another great video guys. Just love the Canadian pronunciation of any word with ou, in it!
What a great comparison, this makes expensive brands reconsider their price point. Imagine what that R could do with a set of coilovers and a re-burn.
This was the first video I saw from you. You guys are really entertaining and work dreat together 😎👍
Great track-battle, fun to watch!
I think these two cars are quite comparable in terms of track performance. So I really like, that you just did that regardless what one could think of the comparison. The web is full of comparisons between M2, M4, C63, RS4 and so on. This one was really interesting 👍
I really would like to hear a little more of the impressions you've got regarding to the steering, brakes, how likely it turns in etc. Especially the things each of the cars does quite better than the other one.
Besides I really like to have a comparison with a Renault Megane RS, but that's just a personal thing 😄
Keep doing, great work!
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For 25k more I expected the m2 competition pack to be better!
TheAftermath1987 beauty costs a lot of money
@@haytchdee3 personally i prefer the look of the CTR, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
NPC Dude what about interior though?
@@haytchdee3 who the fk cares about interior?
@@LowerYourExpectationsPleb generally people who are inside the vehicle
I’ll finally be taking delivery of an M2C in about a week, but the Type R is an impressive little machine from Honda. It’s nice to see them making cars like that. Seems like you’ll be having fun either way you go,and in my book, that’s all that matters.
I’m an M2 fan (and owner) and also a longtime Honda nut. Honda finally dumped the sand out and made a properly fast, capable car. Not many people are cross-shopping these cars as they’re so different, but it’s still a really interesting comparison.
Actually the Type R outruns the bmw m2 on nurburgring ....Type R lap time 7:43.8 and M2 lap time 7.58
www.motor1.com/features/143449/civic-type-r-lap-times/
The car was slightly modified and also not a Production model though.
yeah and it was infotainment system was taken out and the stock seats with various other mods, the actual lap with a stock civic is about 8 minutes, not to hate it's a great car
@@user-eu7cn1ht3h Those "mods" were to offset the weight of the suspended rollcage. The only real confirmed mod the Type R had was non-stock tires.
The Ring lap time doesn't mean too much. Honda was chasing that time and had multiple attempts at it.
I've been waiting for this, I clicked so fast
Impressive powerslide in M2. You two know how to get the power down. Great review. Informative. And just nice. 👍.
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At Nürburgring, The BMW driver did not push the M2 enough. The Civic Type R was almost on the limit the whole time.
It is similar to the huracan performante and the porsche 918.
And the people who are commenting about 1 second are just dumb...1 second is a pretty big time.
1 second is the difference between a ferrari 458 and a chevy camaro ss at a proper track.
The question is, where the difference comes from. Tires is the first question. Second is, straight line speed. This would be a much better test if it was a regular M2, not the Competition pack.
@@nickar2405 I agree...BMW is just charging too much for its cars
But still as far as track times are consider they're unbeatable
"This car does look a bit ridiculous but it's what's underneath that counts." The first part of this statement is 100% accurate.
That Type R is a keeper
Give a proper driver to the Type R..
Truly amazing that the Civic TypeR is only a second slower...for $30,000 grand less! If you invested in some performance mods for the TypeR for like another 50-60hp it would easily beat the M2.
Or did some research and invested those 30.000 in the stock market you could buy an NSX after a you have grown tired of the Type R... Ridiculous price difference between these two cars, really.
Nothing amazing about that. The Civic is an econo car built for the track while the BMW is a premium sport RWD coupe.
Why are they running a cheap type r against a real car.
@@boss4330 It isn't that special. I have a 4 series. The "premiumness" grows old, a good driving experience stays forever (hence why all classics have shot up in value).
@@aaa84gt We are talking about an M2 here, not a run of the mill BMW. The M2 like any other M car is going to be a classic.
One of your best head to head videos, about two of the best drivers cars out today.
With the M2 having a better power to weight ratio, even as a heavier car, I am not surprised at the outcome. The fact that it was this close speaks volumes about the Type R. BMW needed an extra 100 hp and an extra $30,000 to shave less than a second off the Honda's lap. And on another course, the CTR might even be faster than the Ultimate Driving Machine.
They are both brilliant cars