Should you buy a USED Honda Civic Type R? What goes WRONG?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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This generation of the Honda Civic Type R is one of the most polarising cars in recent memory. But now the looks have been fixed on the updated Type R, some of these are going cheap(er). But is buying a used one a good idea? What goes wrong with them, what are they like to own and live and is it worth buying used? We find out.
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00:00 - Intro
00:32 - Exterior issues
05:29 - Interior issues
09:04 - Practicality and features
13:48 - What's it like to drive?
18:03 - Mechanical issues?
20:52 - Should you buy it?
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I dreamed of this car for 5 years before I was finally able to buy it in April. The best car I've ever driven. Always puts a smile to my face. No issues so far either.
Same it’s a awesome car no issues
What was mileage on car when u bought it?
Nice!
Nice and congrats!
We were able to get one 7 years after release. A 2017 model. 0 issues aside from the clutch line vibration. It's been trouble free do far. 1 year 5k miles. 2 accidents 3 owners. Lol. It's great ❤
I've had my Type R FK8 for over 4 years now, and if you get the chance to buy one, do it. It's an absolute driving machine. The looks are, of course, a matter of taste, but personally, I love this Gundam style.
Me too brother! I love my FK8 and am never selling it. There is a reason why they hold their value so well.
I dont own one but the FK8 looks 10 times better than the current gen.
Damn i thought i was the only one who thought it had a gundam look!!
@@Cubby9999 Agreed!
@@malcolmar Peak Type R imo, I was looking at it last night and yes it holds it's value very well. People who upgrade to the FL5 are idiots.
I love how there is almost always a Mini on the ramp behind Jim.
This was always one of my dream cars. I was fortunate to be able to buy one new in 2019 with no mark ups. My car is bone stock except for a K & N high flow air filter and I replaced the stock rubber with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. It always puts a smile on my face when I drive it and is one of those cars that makes you want to take the long way home when you have to do errands. My car might as well be a family heirloom because I am never selling my car. Because I am not thrashing it at the track every weekend and haven't modified the engine beyond recognition, I know the car will continue to give me a trouble free ownership which means more money for gas and more time for driving. Thanks for the tips. BTW I think this car looks best in the dark metallic blue of the early models.
Generally speaking, Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Mazda's ALL models are reliable with basic maintenance.
Not Mazda. They have a lot of issues
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t the petrol models are pretty reliable. Just the diesels aren't...
@@nicotang5583and the wankels
Mazdas have had their issues when they were involved with ford and with their automatic transmissions
@@nicotang5583mostly although the petrols with cylinder deactivation can have some expensive issues
Spotted the obscure single frame at 21:56 of the beautiful hair blowing in the wind x
I'm just glad it wasn't a Fight club inspired frame splice
Haha, just a happy accident. Lucky it was just the luscious hair
No nudes please
Was wondering what that was.
Some minutes 10am here in Kenya and a Macchiato this morning.
It's a good start to the day.
☕️
Bro I have not seen a single type r in kenya
@@calebwany8422there may be several reasons for that.
@@calebwany8422there may be several reasons why.
@@calebwany8422ziko kama mbili najua not FK8 tho
I own an FL5 Type R here in USA and I must say it is the most fun daily driver that I have ever owned in my over 40 years of driving. Of course it’s not perfect, but it is proof that a front wheel drive car can be a blast to drive.
Ive got the 1.5 turbo and love it, but now i want the FK8 type R
Just purchased a 2021 FK8 (Facelift) in Rallye Red with only 22 000 ks (completely stock and clean) with another year of warrenty. Was debating between a GR Corolla and FL5 Type R. FK8 was 12k cheaper than both so was the logical decision. Have driven GR Corolla prior to purchasing, the FK8 is more fun at 10/10s, GR Corolla obviously better in the wet. FK8 is much more spacious and practical. Just in the couple of weeks I've owned it, Ive noticed how much attention the car gets. Also, love how you can put it in comfort mode and it rides smoothly and comfortably even for passengers in the back.
Thanks Adam and redrivwn after months of watching your reviews I watched the one on the Mazda 3 and on the basis of that review i bought a Mazda 3 GT a 2019 model and could not be happier the 2.5 ltr with a six speed manual is just great .Keep up the good work your reviews are awsome
Great to hear mate. Enjoy!
Thank Adam for the fantastic reviews and advice 👏 finally bought my first car at 17 a 2nd gen honda fit, and it's been absolutely great. Thanks for the great banter,laughs, and advice with love from Swaziland 🇸🇿
HAHA get 'em, Jim. I liked the energy Jim was bringing today, especially the commentary on 2nd gear grind.
I swapped my Golf R MK8 for the FL5. The golf is a fantastic car, but too clinical for me on Australian roads. Meaning it just felt like it needs to be on the autobahn to appreciate its strength. The Honda however has so much personality. You can drive it around the streets legally and still enjoy its involvement. Then it’s got a wicked side that is just crazy if you willing to find it..
It was the 2019 model they put the volume knob on and the new grey color. Sonic Grey Pearl. I didn't like the Fk8 style at first, but overtime the style grew on me and started to like it the more I look at it.
I think the wing is just to much. I saw an aftermarket one that's a bit more milder
3 careful elderly lady owners. Never been revved past 3000 rpm.
😅😅😅😅😅
Some comments bit exaggerated but overall pointing all issues. The best one however was about the chase on public road agains RS Focus with racing driver. Indeed you feel like a Pro in FK8. I love this car and believe me I have driven many modern sports cars and despite its FWD the balance, the,mechanical feeling is supreme in Type R. I have Sportline version with dark seats and better sound isolation.
Great review. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the FL5.
I actually love the way these look
The FL5 looks boringly slow
The front half is way more cohesive than the rear
1. sagging front grille over time.
2. Missing paint in certain areas of the car such as on the corners of one of the rear tail lights, and the Pillar area on the LH side windshield next to the hood.
3. Low pressure fuel pump issue
4. high risk of AC problems. From condenser, to evaporator, to compressor
5. Valve cover not torqued to spec on one of the valve cover bolts, likely contributing to the oil leaks from the valve cover seal.
6. Hood scoop leaks water from the gasket area (not from the hood scoop opening). Leading to a coilpack/spark plug issue on the LH side
7. Coolant expansion tank will leak sooner than you think
8. Throttle body rubber will be torn sooner than you think
1. the rattle on thefront its the front speaker cut half of a card sponge and put it there the rattle disappears is the only effective method after 3 months trying different stuffs.
2. the infotainment can be change for a 2020 one in 5 minutes it may cost you 300-500 dollars. or you can use the volume buttons on the steering wheel.
3. there is a small compartment under the shiftknob of the sunglases
4.the wheels are just terrible worst experience in my life. most people change to 18 in and 245/35 tires
5.the ac condensor its cover by warranty by honda
6. most of those problems on the engine are because of owners dont care mostly, the gear crunch its because of the weak synchros it has. it will crunch a little and shift after that, and i havent have any single problem besides that not even the over heating and i live in panama a country super humid and 40c weather.
great video it did cover alot i just wanted to mention this for people that want to buy one
In UK no problems with my 19 reg FK8 GT at 20k miles. Something on front was changed under warranty to cure front parking sensors giving false warnings after car parked in rain. Sound system is very good for my ears. Best upgrade was at 15 k miles when oem Pirelli tyres still had 3mm tread was to replace them with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres. The Michelins give a more comfortable ride, are quieter, no chunk chunk when manoeuvring in cold weather & make steering slightly heavier when in comfort mode which I prefer. Just the infotainment touch screen system annoys so I set climate control settings to suit prevailing weather conditions before driving off & use WAZZ for navigation. There is space for an expensive Honda space saver spare wheel which does not significantly reduce boot volume. I prefer the dramatic looks of my FK8 to that of both the Sport Line & new FL5. From Euro NCAP test results the FL5, & other manufacturers recent cars, are not worthy of 5 Star ratings as driver safety is compromised in the offset test - refer to Auto Expert JC who has exposed this problem.
“I can’t drink my espresso latte” in the back seat😂. You’re getting kicked out if you drink that messy drink in my car.
For me, I love the front 75% of the car and the wing. But the rear end, specifically the taillights, throw the whole thing off for me.
Mugen-style tail lights look good though.
I was tempted by the FK8, really was, but went with a i30 Fastback N. Great car. When the FL5 came out I waited best part of 10 months, then low and behold you could buy one. Love it.
Bought an fk8 at 70k miles. Needed an adjustment, and there was a valve cover leak and axle leak. After that was fixed, it keeps running. I’m happy with it.
Owned mine for over 6 years and only just traded it in, brilliant car , only issue was the windscreen washers jets , the fact the sat nav was crap but android auto sorted that and the tyres would wear fairly quickly and cost a fortune, but would defiantly recommend buying one as for looks I always loved it.
I have a '23 with over $10k in accessories yet it looks totally standard. James May would approve.
How do you like the clutch. I hate the clutch in mine. High bite and soft pedal
@ clutch feel is great. Bite point isn’t high on mine. If your car is new it might get better with time. Pedal feel is not soft especially compared to lower powered manual cars. Driving ND2 MX5 after the FL5 is like stepping on a marshmallow but the Civic’s clutch feels precise.
Mate, people who drive this dont drink girly esspressos on their way to the Ralph Lauren shop, where they work.
Owners of these IV mainline Redbull on their way to fist fight another owner for the wheel spacers from Ebay 😅
I've got the new FL5 version, had the older FK8 before, absolutely loved both. I sell coffee machines for a living and I absolutely need to hatch space. This is the best alternative to the classic trade-who-needs-space-for-his-tools Ute. It delivers boxes during the week and smiles on the weekend!
I was able to get a decent sound by putting deadening in the doors and using top the line alpine tweeters
As a FK8 owner, I heavily discourage you to get a FK8/FL5 to be your daily + weekend racer.
The cooling issues being talked about, are not fixed by simple solutions like a different radiator. Be prepared to sink over $5,000 in mods and time into the platform, just to be able to go a few more laps.
There are many owners, who get real with the issue and tell you not to get one, if you want to race them.
The overheating issues are not due to a small radiator or something like that- the engine bays are simply too cramped for the turbocharged K20C1.
Mind you, it's pushing 320+ HP from a 2 liter, so it's the turbo doing the heavy lifting. If you put that hot turbo AND CAT UNDER the intake charge pipes and IN BETWEEN the engine and the heat exchangers, you WILL get heat soak.
A bigger radiator will only worsen this issue, because now you decreased the airflow to the engine bay to cool other components.
Like I said, it's not an easy "slap some mods and call it a day" problem. This is a "this platform is silly" kind of problem.
You need at least a engine hood with major cooling vents, at least one external oil cooler (2 is better...) another front mask with bigger opening for airflow, wrap on the intake charge pipe (no turbo or exhaust blanket- you need the airflow to cool it) and CAT delete to make a real difference.
Guys, I'm not hating on the Type R- it is the best (stock) FWD sports car for the street. When I got mine, I was laughing in joy, all the way back home, carving through the country roads. But it is not for the track- as is. I don't consider a car, that can only do 5 laps, before it goes into limp mode a "track car".
There are many cars, that you can slap a bigger radiator, oil cooler on and prop the hood in the rear and have fun all day. This ain't it.
Does this include the fk2?
@@Chenzooo Yes. It's way worse due to a much smaller engine bay.
@@UrsaWarrior95 What kind of cars would you recommend where simple mods can make a half decent trackday car?
didn't honda fix the cooling issue on the 2021? I want the newer one but if I can't afford it people keep telling me the 21 and up are better
@@vicentee2687 they didn't.
I've had my 2019 FK8 since new and I love it! Only issues I've had is the 2nd gear crunch which was fixed by changing the transmission fluid. And the black trim above the windows has started to bubble and peel which is hopefully getting replaced under warranty. Other than that, it's been fantastic! Looks are of course subjective, but personally I don't understand the hate! I love the Gundam styling of these! Allthough I do also really like the mature lines of the current gen.
My comment applies to Japan market samples. The shop I use that specializes in track tuning Lotuses is friendly with people who race these. Evidently the chassis is built with relatively thin steel and insufficient spot welds. If you put stiff suspension and sticky tires on it, then track it for a couple of seasons, the chassis gets flexy and spongy. It’s pretty much done, with not much that can be done about it. So best enjoyed as a street car, as it was designed.
I do know that earlier years they have issues with welds in the hatch area. The later years have a patch weld over it.
Saving up for one now FK8 is my favourite type R
Never had a problem with the volume control on the head unit because I use the controls on the steering wheel….its what they’re there for isn’t it?
Also, my friends love it & I don’t care what the in-laws think. I love mine, my wife loves it & so does my toddler & that’s all I care about.
Thats exactly how i drive mine. And i'm an old lad.(55+)
I think it looks excellent, nothing over the top in my brain. Then again I’m going from a 2013 STI which I Absolutely loved.
@14:01 As an automotive engineer I can tell you 17 or 18 inch wheels are the way to go for performance and ride quality reasons.
The only downside to be is the electronic parking brake. I prefer the classical one.
If you are watching from LHD countries, the infotainment was replaced in 2019 instead of RHD model's 2020. The newer model does work a lot better but sometimes I still have connectivity issues.
Ahhhhh I worked at the Swindon Honda factory. Such a shame Honda manufacturing left the UK.
I still drive past th factory every day and it’s…. Now all gone. Building houses on it
I like mine a lot. 2nd gear crunch is a thing sometimes. And the front lip...you need to be mindful of it when goung up any inclines/declines. Not a low car but low enough youll scrape on stuff you wouldnt have on a normal car.
Literally just bought one, love it so far
I almost bought one of these until I read about the 2nd gear grind. Even happened on my test drve. Car only had 15K miles on it.
Hey there! Love the vid. Could you do a review on older civic such as an eg9 sedan or eg6 hatch? Or maybe an ek sedan/hatch
I definitely haven't thought of buying one of these and wrapping it baby pink. XD
100% love the looks.
Thank goodness for Honda building what they should have, unlike the crud WRX which has been gimped in looks for too many generations now.
The witchcraft that makes the FK8 handle and the manual gearbox is the absolute best I’ve used. It was on my list to replace my 2013 BRZ, but I ended up with a reasonably low km 2016 Audi RS3. I would love to try an FL5 though.
FL5 Honda Civic Type R FTW!
Where i'm from these hold value even used with high mileage.
American fan here. What was that 2 door Honda shown in the background of the wiper tech ad?
Honda HRV.
No one, literally no one hates the styling on the road, in the real world. Only on the Internet is considered "childish'.
No, a lot dont like the look...😅
That's just not true. The newer model is toned down and looks great.
People compliment it all the time. They find it exciting. The new one is also nice, but this is not horrendous.
I've had one for 6 years and most people tell me they love it
It's a polarising design.
Honda Civic Type R ! The Ultimate "High Plains Drifter"!! 🏁🏆
This is the video I’ve been waiting years for
Like the ingenious things my for volume adjustment in the later models
Missed a fair bit on the reliability issues. I am basing my list on the FK2, but these problems carry over, considering a lot of the parts are shared:
- Suspension; particularly shocks failing, but also other components.
- Gearbox synchros eating themselves. This is a thing and isn't driver error. I've seen multiple cars grind and refuse to go into gear whilst driving sedately. between first & second, second & third and sometimes into reverse from neutral.
- Timing chain and tensioner issues. On start up, the car will sound like a van for a second or so, which is usually the first sign of the issue. It'll progress from there over time.
- RUST and corrosion underneath the car, particularly at the back. Corrosion on the wheel arches as well. I've seen this becoming a real concern with the FK2, especially in the UK, so I'd keep it in mind with the FK8.
- Water in the rear spoiler. Not sure how it gets in there, but doesn't find its way out. Same with the rear lights.
Just on wipertech wipers I have purchased them for my nissan . While they do a great job at cleaning windscreen , thing that drive me nuts is that they sit higher off the windscreen than the original wipers and now I can see wipers sticking out when driving and looking at the road😂
I’ve got one and I love the looks, what’s wrong with wearing “ shouty trousers” ?? Subaru Impreza’s wore them and so did the Mitsubishi Evo’s
I am sure that this Honda drives even longer as al other hot hatches.The engine is one of the best in the world
I was a V8 tragic until i drove one of these things (and a WRX STI). Not a fan of the interior, but i could totally move past it. Any true car person should drove one, they are truely fantastic.
Best civic. Pure Samurai
I love both the previous and current Civic Type R design.
I love it. In base trim not so much. Its just the rear which seems a bit odd (but still much better then some of the Chinese stuff coming out)
Can you guys review a bmw 540i (g30) i think that would be a really good review to watch
I’ve had mine since 30k km and done about 35k on it. The issues I’ve had:
Clutch slip - new clutch needed at about 35k km, old owner’s fault
Synchromesh issue - maybe due to the old driver but seems a common issue, cost £4600 to repair
Clutch peddle creak - apparently common, easy fix lubricating it
Rest wiper letting water in - removed rear light and resealed
Creaking from suspension - replacement ball joints at 65k km
Brake noise - small stones get stuck between the brake shield and disc, just poke at the shield with a stick and it comes out
Seat bolsters - they’re wearing and creasing pretty fast
Any other issues were caused by mods done by myself
All cars have problems and I’m hoping no more issues as it’s a joy to drive and fits the family nicely, and the boot is huge, with room to fit a collapsible wheelchair and luggage with no problems
The opening statement made me laugh 😂
Could a Swift Sport with some subtle mods keep one of these honest on a tight and twisty race track?
Not sure if it could, though physics dictates it'd be more economical on tyres, brakes, fuel and all wear items being lighter, a jolly sight lighter.
What was that mantra from Lotus? Just add weight, more batteries, then add more weight again, and she'll be right mate? Was something like that.
No but its a far more sensible Car to own.
Intake valve coking was really common when PCV systems were simpler , when GDI started becoming widespread. It's not quite a old wives tale at this point but has anyone actually seen complaints about Honda intake valves coking with direct injection? Honda has a pretty sophisticated PCV oil separation system going back a decade now (a very easy way to see this is that the k-series direct injected naturally aspirated engines actually have a oil drainback specifically for the valve cover baffles).
if this car is UK produced, then the paint quality is par for the course. UK cars are always sub-par. my FN2 had major paint issues
The condition of the interior/exterior of a fk8 with give you a clue about it's overall condition. Tells you a lot about the TLC from the previous owner(s).
If it's available, buy an FK2 Type-R. It has a volume knob as standard😅
So does the FK8 on 19, 20, and 21 models. But they’re a little more pricy.
Waiting for the day a 2019+ Lexus ES300H (to compare with the late model crown you guys covered)shows up on your channel
I sooooooo want to buy a 2020 model es because they added full speed adaptive cruise control + they are priced well
But I wanted to know what to lookout for when buying and love you guys’ videos
Ps: I absolutely love how the civic type r looks in the right environment
would love to see a video on the hyundai i20N
That John Cena part was pure gold, give a high five to the editor 😂😂
True riding machine! Only too bad they seem to hold value too well so prices are bit out of reach. Personally looks has grown on me and really love over riced style. Looks serious and so different from other cars on the road.
Would be also nice to see reviev 10th gen normal fk7 Civic with 1,5t engine!
Love them ❤ reminds me of my time in Japan 😊
Could you review the Toyota GR Yaris and the Ford Focus RS?
I owned 1. I got used to the look. Car is not perfect but it is near perfect enough to forget any shortcomings. Also very reliable. I could buy a second hand one and can feel whats happened to the car just by the behaviour (especially the gear box) but I wouldn't recommend buying a second hand 1 unless you really understand these cars.
FL5 is the one. Love mine!
You should put "10th gen" type R to differentiate this and the current Type R. Can you do a review over the 10th Gen Si next, I would love to know!!!
Review the latest Renault RS 280 sport / trophy EDC please
6:25 - I don't get this complaint at all. Are you planning to use the rear camera to take pictures for your upcoming holiday or something? It's perfectly adequate for its intended purpose: letting the driver know if there's something or someone behind the car when reversing. I've never had any issue, in snow or heavy rain.
Would be great if you could please review the VB WRX 2021 onwards?
Is ot possible for you ReDriven guys to get yours hands on a Subaru Levorg? Find out what’s good, and what goes wrong with it? Couldn’t find any video of that model on the channel.
Please review the i30 n line
Looks like we just need the FK2 and legendardary and hard to get EK9 Type R to be reviewed. All Civic Type R will be completed. We'll until FL5 which is still current model and not yet exactly "used" yet.
I love Innovative knobs to play with
Europeans, take notice. A car that is as fast as any european car AND reliable as a Civic. Absolutely brilliant ❤.
I never heared of a failed high pressure fuel pump in the K20C1s but the low pressure in tank fuel pump breaks down due to swelling pump vanes. The A/C condensers keep on failing due to bad quality. The K20C1 does not have issues with clogging inlet valves. The Honda engineers made a clever decision with the position of the high pressure fuel injectors. They spray up towards the inlet valves to help clean them when theire open. It is worth mentioning that high quality fuel helps a lot preventing carbon build up. Everything else Jim mentioned is correct especially the lack of mechanical sympathy some dudes have.
My FK8 fuel pump kaput at only 16k km
@yankeepapa3572 as I mentioned common issue. The fuel pump is located inside the fuel tank and pumps the fuel at low pressure to the front. Jim talks about the high pressure fuel pump which is located on top of the engine and is driven from the intake camshaft. It receives the low pressure from the tank and pressurises it for the high pressure fuel injectors to operate as intended. They usually never fail. The high pressure fuel pump is mechanical driven from the intake camshaft via an extra cam lobe.
do you happen to have the document or video for their method of spraying towards inlet valve, I would like to check it out
@LoveLikeaHurricane unfortunately not. Honda does not provide many information of that. I have seen a picture of it from a demonstration. At least I can not find it again. You can imagine why Honda put the injectors that horizontal in the turbocharged L15 and K20C1.
I love manual sports cars. The looks for me Are amazing! And it’s Honda so I wouldn’t worry too much Ofcourse maintenance is important but nah this all day everyday over a golf
Would love to see some 200SX/Silvia content
When you going to review black edition Sv6 vf
I love that it looks like a scaled up Hotwheels Car I think the new model looks boring in comparison.
Too poxy looking for me, but I have driven a mates type R (exactly the same as this one, same colour too) and it is a fine, fine machine to drive. I won't swap my turbo FG XR6 for one, but credit where credit is due.
One of my dream cars ❤❤❤
mmhm I think the biggest cargo space in this classe is from Skoda Octavia Vrs, or combi variant
This is what a hot hatch should look like. It should be outrageous, the only other one that pulls this off is the RS
Love the car. But when it comes to these types of cars the 6th and 7th generation is what I prefer
Always liked these.. awesome cars
You can’t go wrong with that. There’s no problems that the aftermarket can’t fix and bridge any gaps between the fk8 and the fl5. Hell, even the integra type s.