In The Mind Of A Villain - The Penguin from Batman Returns
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In this entry we’ll be taking a closer look at the mind of Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin from Batman Returns.
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Topics: character analysis, villains
I’m endlessly fascinated by this version of the character. His intellect and vileness made him outrageously entertaining. I don’t have much sympathy for him but his gravitas and presence are compelling. Plus Danny DeVito is always impeccable!
Most animalistic penguin yet.
quite the opposite for me, I have lots of sympathy for him, society threw me away as well
@@AbrasiousProductionshow are you doing I'm so sorry
Me too but because I have sympathy. The comic version either took inspiration from this or went kind of in this direction. I think the latter. Watch top 5 Mr rogues penguin stories to get what I mean
Penguin’s life is a sad 😔 story when, his parents abandoned him after birth and kill the 🐈 as an infant 👶🏻
the sad story of a man rejected by society 😥
If I may comment this because I feel it is necessary. Oswald, in my opinion, is a very realistic epitome of the proverb, ‘A child who isn’t embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”
One of the things I like the most about this version of Penguin is that there's so much we're not told about him. We find out all the truly important stuff, and are left to figure out the rest for ourselves. Like, how, exactly, did he end up in the circus? How did he gain control of it? Where did his Duck Vehicle and all its gadgets come from, and how did he or his minions gain the know-how to create them?
It doesn't matter. We know who and what Oswald Cobblepot is; the rest is just icing on the cake. Burton doesn't slow the film down to explain everything; he knows we'll accept cool stuff whether or not he comes up with a logical reason for it. So he gives his villain plenty of it, and just lets him use it - any explanation we could come up with for all this stuff would be bound to be more interesting than his, so why bother?
Really appreciated that about the Burton films. They didn't need to stop and explain things like where Batman got all his gadgets? How did he build a secret lair under his house, and who's repairing the Batmobile every time it gets messed up? The audience is already coming into it the film with a certain level of suspension of disbelief. It is still a movie about a guy dressed as a bat fighting a clown after all.
As much as I love the Dark Knight trilogy, they spend a little too much time explaining all the ins and outs of Batman's tools. If it happened once or twice then it would be fine, but no. They spend an entire scene talking about how every new gadget Batman is about to use works.
Exactly. We've accepted all this stuff without question in the comics for many years. Sure, it's always INTERESTING when we hear about how it works, but is it necessary? No. As fans of the source material, we've already proven many times that we can take this stuff at face value; it's not going to kill us if we don't find out exactly which manufacturing firm made the Batmobile's engine. @@redphantom6921
Best iteration of the character so far.. he was both comical and terrifying 👍
He was tragic. It would have been interesting if they told us that he tried to reenter society when he was child but shunned him because of his appearance. He was unable to handle it so he snapped.
Absolutely, that would make it even more sad.
@@inthemindofavillain It can give us a reason why Penguin wanted to do these horrible acts.
Tim Burton said that if Penguin's parents were alive, he would have killed them himself for what they did to him.
He wasn't tragic at all. He killed an innocent cat
@@tizianoferrigno588 His parents shouldn't have thrown him into the river and act like he didn't exist. They were more ashamed of his appearance and his behavior. They didn't do anything to help him. They were the reason he became who he is.
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He’s wearing his Moms fur coat. He killed his parents
no he didn't you idiot, my mom gave me some of her clothes that doesn't mean I killed her
He's also wearing his father's monocle. But then again, only in the film is it unlikely he killed his parents. In the book it is implied. I suggest he didn't murder his parents since he would have bragged about it. His hatrted against firstborns was indicative he didn't forgive his parents.
He never found or meet his parents .
Ok I get he throws tantrums like a child but don't we all when we have something that we had planned very well on go south
We do, but hopefully in a more controlled manner.
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@@inthemindofavillain 🫤 true
I think you nailed this one. I’ve watched this movie many times since I first went to see it in the cinema with my dad. A lot of my thoughts on him as a psychotic but highly intelligent man-child are all on display.
I have a theory that he is actually the reason his parents are dead. You are right in saying it wouldn’t take much for him to work out who his parents (and his birth name) were, and therefore it wouldn’t take much for him to find them, visit them and kill them with the help of the Red Triangle Gang. Him later putting on a display and twisting it to his favour is an un/planned benefit.
Another commenter mentioned he’s wearing his mother’s coat as an adult, so there’s a good chance he did eliminate them.
@@inthemindofavillain I didn't notice that. Thank you. 👍
He was my favorite villain from my childhood
I've always loved this characterization. It shows that even the most intelligent and clever of people can be childish and repulsive. I have to wonder, though, exactly how a "boy who never grew up" could develop a sex drive.
Because he still developed physically as a man.
This is tired terminology but he is the quintessential "incel" who is obsessed with sex because he's never (or seldom) known it.
Danny devitos penguin is my favorite villain out of all the movies.
Another member of "Batman's Rogues Gallery."
When did they find out he knew his parents all along?
Bruce suggested it in his research in the Batcave. When combined with how resourceful Oswald appears to be, that seems a strong possibility.
@@inthemindofavillain The novelisation says he found and killed his parents himself.
@@Xehanort10 In the book. But in the film it is unlikely he has killed the since he would have vocally made it known. There are elements that are mysterious. He put decayed flowers to the tomb of his father and mother.
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They should have introduced the mad hatter in this movie
Due to the appearance of "The Penguin" in this film, McDonald's threw a hissy fit over this film and forced WB to hire someone else for the next film (not smart considering the films "Batman Forever" and "Batman and Robin" being total duds and "Batman and Robin" being a complete fiasco).