Watch this if you think Reaction Tech Chasing is impossible

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @SSBMTutorials
    @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +16

    Learn from Spark at www.patreon.com/SSBM_Spark or www.metafy.gg/@Spark
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  • @TrueYankeeFan
    @TrueYankeeFan 3 года назад +288

    Blue Pill for sure. Cuz it doesn't say it has to be only for Smash, I could totally be like, "Hey Zain, which carton of milk should I buy?" and he could be all like, "2% dude." Would be pretty cool.

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад +34

      a good example of why experts in one field arent experts in every field. whole milk is clearly best and i will DIE on this hill

    • @ErikSeastead
      @ErikSeastead 3 года назад +13

      It says ALL the pros! Do you really want Ken, M2k, Mango, and Armada yelling over each other??

    • @finmin2k
      @finmin2k 3 года назад +5

      sounds like zain doesn't know that whole milk is CLEARLY THE BEST FUCKING MILK

    • @CSharp__
      @CSharp__ 3 года назад +5

      I hope this becomes a copypasta

    • @ThevenimX
      @ThevenimX 3 года назад

      See but what of like all the coaches talk to you including Leffen

  • @GustoFormula
    @GustoFormula 3 года назад +63

    thanks for this. I've practiced tech chasing in uncle punch a lot and even studied the frames of different tech options, but I still haven't been able to react to tech in place and grab it a single time lol. excited to see if this will help

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +13

      It's definitely still very hard, but in my personal experience, if you are even close to doing it online, you can easily do it on CRT

    • @ZachStarAttack
      @ZachStarAttack 3 года назад +6

      for reacting, sussing out visual cues and flowcharting by reacting to techrolls while assuming its tech in place until proven otherwise is what i have done to make me a reaction speed god

  • @DopeSamus
    @DopeSamus 3 года назад +9

    I've been playing this game competitively for 7 years and I still learn from these videos!! Such good content!!
    Keep it up ♥️

  • @DrewZGmusic
    @DrewZGmusic 3 года назад +37

    I'd take pink pill, without having to worry about execution I can completely customise my own playstyle

    • @MultiAsdasad
      @MultiAsdasad Год назад +3

      For real, being able to do whatever you want in Melee is the dream

  • @MrLzSmash
    @MrLzSmash 3 года назад +49

    algorithm

  • @koitsuga
    @koitsuga 3 года назад +8

    Reaction time pill is still the strongest because of what it does for you in neutral and advantage state: it shrinks your opponent's unreactable threat zone in a weird nonlinear way.

    • @ExoticDva
      @ExoticDva 3 года назад +1

      I’d be sick to not have to practice to get really good tech skill

  • @sweetshoez
    @sweetshoez 3 года назад +9

    Spark is actually making great guides. I’ve been playing for 8 years, I watch these mostly to support but this was actually OD

  • @rattlelarry2186
    @rattlelarry2186 3 года назад +37

    200 bpm? *gets wobbling flashback

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад +6

      200 bpm is the speed of melee imo, its like the heartbeat

  • @Peanutz996
    @Peanutz996 3 года назад +12

    I wish uncle punch just told you how late/early you were. Would make practicing tech chasing and knowing what you're doing wrong twice as easy

    • @brlvper4
      @brlvper4 3 года назад

      It does

    • @Peanutz996
      @Peanutz996 3 года назад

      @@brlvper4 If it does that's a setting I haven't found, is it in the long list of on screen displays or w/e?

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal 3 года назад +1

    Very nice, these are some things I will have to keep in mind for sure. Thank you Spark!

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 3 года назад +3

    Love the metronome advice. That helps me in general. With everything.

    • @maxono1465
      @maxono1465 3 года назад

      what are some other examples where it helps you?

    • @williamomalley6081
      @williamomalley6081 3 года назад

      @@maxono1465 wobbling lmao

  • @NicholasSunderland
    @NicholasSunderland 3 года назад +5

    Extremely helpful

  • @cceider
    @cceider 3 года назад +6

    Reaction time is very important but see I have a severe medical condition called stupidity that makes me incapable to react properly in situations where it would give me a big advantage or win me the game

  • @michaelcastelpoggi1735
    @michaelcastelpoggi1735 3 года назад

    Great advice. Love the video, you're definitely not disappointing as the new host

  • @ayden172
    @ayden172 3 года назад +7

    reject skill embrace lucky bracket pill

    • @jaredbowers9503
      @jaredbowers9503 3 года назад +2

      Reject luck, embrace multiple personalities pill

  • @CeilingPanda
    @CeilingPanda 3 года назад +5

    My ass reaction time won't help when I cant execute for shit, I would rather love perfect techskill :P and when I would have that I would need 3 frames of reactiontime >.>

  • @cr0wguitar
    @cr0wguitar 3 года назад

    Droppin that metronome tip, blew my mind!

  • @Athesies
    @Athesies 3 года назад +6

    Honestly I can't see the leg split animation, (atleast not until like 10 frames into it and by then its too late.) Up until then fox's legs just look like a blur to me when he techs in place

    • @r0flcopter
      @r0flcopter 3 года назад

      Could honestly be your monitor. To be 100% honest, I (kira) have a lot of trouble doing it online, but on CRT it's much easier

    • @Athesies
      @Athesies 3 года назад

      @@r0flcopter hmm maybe you're right in a way, personally I've never been able to pull it off on my small crt but I haven't given it my all while playing on my large 120 hz capable monitor

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад

      get a crt monitor!

    • @Athesies
      @Athesies 3 года назад

      @@swank8508 you mean like a really old style 4-3 desktop monitor? Look i love collecting old tech but I already own a trinitron and 2 other crts, im not sure I could justify the space and cost that monitor would take up lol

  • @ccc-q8r
    @ccc-q8r Год назад

    Here's my math on this from going frame by frame in training mode...
    By the second frame of teching, tech in place fox starts to spread his legs (vs not for other techs). About 26 frames later he gets to spot dodge. Grab takes 7 frames as sheik. So on the 18th frame after being able to react you need to be pressing z. That gives about 288ms after starting to spread his legs that you can press z. If you have a 200ms reaction time there's 5.5 frames for you to judge if it looks like tech in place or not. Those five frames are all fox upside down with this legs apart (vs together for tech in). So if you can react to it before he flips up then you can tech chase?
    Haven't been able to do it yet but just practicing trying to figure it out

  • @E-Brightvoid
    @E-Brightvoid 3 года назад +5

    Hugs Pills: Never miss a charge shot.

  • @jacksonsmith6650
    @jacksonsmith6650 3 года назад +2

    Green pill i've been grinding young link for over a year

  • @clipCommander101
    @clipCommander101 3 года назад +3

    Ive gotten pretty good at reaction tech chase due to uncle punch, but i suck at covering missed tech because i cannot for the life of me dash back out of crouch

    • @El_gobl1no
      @El_gobl1no 11 месяцев назад

      That's a controller dependent issue. You have to work around it, play on a box style controller or get a controller that can.

  • @rosheafan
    @rosheafan Год назад +1

    My reaction time is very below average, so, uh, good thing I play Roy?
    I guess?

  • @maxono1465
    @maxono1465 3 года назад

    i like the metronome tip, i really wanna try it now

  • @SonicMaster519
    @SonicMaster519 2 года назад +1

    Easily the green pill. Nobody is going to remember the Fox or Falco that won EVO, but everybody is going to remember the Game & Watch that got Top 5.

    • @donaldmcdonald3434
      @donaldmcdonald3434 Год назад

      IDK man I think the opposite is true. There's only like one dope Game and Watch player and I can't even remember his name but I can list plenty of fox's and falcos.

  • @skiddzie9291
    @skiddzie9291 Год назад

    Just so everybody knows, getting 15frames in the reaction time training in uncle punch is actually a reaction time closer to 200ms. Melee has 2 to 3 frames of input lag.

  • @thelacedog1915
    @thelacedog1915 3 года назад +8

    Please make the marth fsmash the pichu at the end

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +4

      ;_;

    • @SSB_Seal
      @SSB_Seal 3 года назад +2

      I literally think it's going to happen every time LMAO

  • @ry-uw8wf
    @ry-uw8wf 3 года назад

    i will practice this

  • @mindupstation2484
    @mindupstation2484 3 года назад +3

    Wish there was one pill that would clone you for doubles

  • @jennith
    @jennith Год назад

    funny how the “reaction speeds up by 3 frames” pill looks exactly like a 30mg vyvanse

  • @Happy.Stupid.Neighbor
    @Happy.Stupid.Neighbor Год назад

    I cant get a frame of less then 16 on uncle punch. Am i doomed?

  • @712toaster
    @712toaster 3 года назад

    Accurate bpm ftw 🙌

  • @OkamiBGT
    @OkamiBGT 3 года назад +1

    Is this applicable to characters other than just Sheik and Falcon? Like can I do this or a variant of it with Marth?

    • @Hyde472
      @Hyde472 3 года назад +3

      This applies to tech chasing in general, it is just that those with grabs that instantly put the enemy in a tech situation are easier to demonstrate on.
      (I think)

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +2

      Yeah what Hyde said. You can do it with anyone. The only thing you want to watch out for is that tech chasing Sheik is potentially not reactable, but pretty much everyone else should be doable

    • @Hyde472
      @Hyde472 3 года назад +1

      @@SSBMTutorials WHEN YOU GET A RESPONSE FROM SSBM TUTORIALS AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @guren_mk_II
    @guren_mk_II 3 года назад +3

    im out here with that 450ms reaction time lol

  • @nootaboot7042
    @nootaboot7042 3 года назад +1

    bluepill in this situation is cracked

  • @mikecicciari845
    @mikecicciari845 3 года назад

    kills me a little inside, knowing that some people can just do this instinctively without explicitly practicing it

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +1

      I honestly don’t think there’s a single person out there who can do it instinctively.

    • @sg21yt
      @sg21yt Год назад

      @@SSBMTutorialsjmook

  • @noisetanker4355
    @noisetanker4355 3 года назад

    Blue pill I want to main puff and have hbox in my head screaming BAIR BAIR USE IT BAIR

  • @JadenSmithEyes
    @JadenSmithEyes 3 года назад

    What is up Spark-Nation. it's ya boy, RUclips comments

  • @Doormatt_17
    @Doormatt_17 3 года назад +2

    Oh yeah it's Gamer time

    • @DonkEssb
      @DonkEssb 3 года назад

      Yeah yeah yeah!

  • @littlemacisunderrated412
    @littlemacisunderrated412 3 года назад

    Damn I guess best low tier main would make me have to change mine ;)

  • @donovanmahan2901
    @donovanmahan2901 3 года назад

    Def would choose magenta. Would probably be in tournaments if I could convert better off of neutral wins.

  • @georgeallen7487
    @georgeallen7487 3 года назад

    I would like to see the math on the 250ms figure.

  • @Transplantuwu
    @Transplantuwu 3 года назад

    Ily spark+algo

  • @mightylad2197
    @mightylad2197 3 года назад

    Pink pill. Instant TAS abilities

  • @parttimenoob9886
    @parttimenoob9886 3 года назад

    As long as you have a reaction time of...
    Well, there goes the rest of the Video for me. Still watching because it's nice to repeat some of the Info for RTC, it has been a while.

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад +1

      your reaction time is good enough

    • @parttimenoob9886
      @parttimenoob9886 3 года назад +1

      @@swank8508 The Video literally starts with giving a Minimum, which i am considerably above (~350 ms on good days). Like, it's right there in the intro. (And yes i know about Mental stack and prepared Reactions)

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 3 года назад +5

      @@parttimenoob9886 your monitor must suck or something. human reaction time really isnt that varied

    • @parttimenoob9886
      @parttimenoob9886 3 года назад +1

      @@swank8508 so i've been told before. And trust me, it does suck. Which is why i don't cite the 400 ms from my Monitor, but the 350 ms from a Good Quality Monitor.

    • @lonkster
      @lonkster 3 года назад

      @@parttimenoob9886 their is no actual way its that high

  • @sg21yt
    @sg21yt Год назад

    Red because it’s good in other things as well

  • @jakezepeda1267
    @jakezepeda1267 3 года назад

    Gimmie pink pill so I can consistently style on people with Samus without looking like an idiot.

  • @drsherifff
    @drsherifff 3 года назад

    Green just because it's cool

  • @whjk83921
    @whjk83921 3 года назад

    Well, my average reaction time is 250ms, so I can only get it half the time... good thing I play fox.

  • @ciarankelly3726
    @ciarankelly3726 3 года назад

    ;_; human benchmark puts me at 300ms and i cant seem to get it lower

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  3 года назад +2

      Tbh, it probably has a lot to do with your monitor

  • @latte876
    @latte876 3 года назад

    Either blue or pink pill. I'd like advice from people who know what they're doing, but I dunno how inconvenient a buncha voices in my head would be. Tech skill is nice, would definitely help, but it isn't everything.

  • @YAHPapaJohnWick
    @YAHPapaJohnWick 6 месяцев назад

    bro..?? FALCON KICK FOR HITBOX RECOVERY?

  • @alabdark
    @alabdark 3 года назад

    Pink , so I can plan a game

  • @imbanana
    @imbanana 3 года назад

    Really confusing video , so all these years everyone said its barely possible to do reaction techchase and now its called easy with plenty of time to react if its not tech in place? Also barely any pro can do it consistantly? Not sure if i missunderstood this video but sounds very odd to me

  • @SilentVinyl
    @SilentVinyl 3 года назад

    neat

  • @DoubleCFiend
    @DoubleCFiend 3 года назад

    Green is easily the worst because you could be the best player of a character and still not win anything lmfao

  • @yophi8275
    @yophi8275 3 года назад

    rhythmalgo

  • @mtails1427
    @mtails1427 3 года назад

    Blue pill for sure.

  • @Malurth
    @Malurth 3 года назад

    spark needs a better mic lol

  • @sirtchamp8033
    @sirtchamp8033 2 года назад

    blue pill.

  • @SS4xShinobi
    @SS4xShinobi 3 года назад

    Reaction tech chasing is impossible 😈 until I see it done consistently, (which has yet to happen in 20 years worth of this game being out) I will continue to deny the “believers” though having a damn good tech chase it obv still very achievable and beneficial.