“Because Tony hates Tony”. Tony definitely hates himself, but Tony’s relationship with his father is beyond strained, and totally fractured. Tony says “You’re breaking your old mans heart” to Ultron, Tony’s relationship with his father and the gross repressed feelings is the dynamic being portrayed with Tony & Ultron. “You’re my greatest creation” was Howard’s statement to Tony in the film strip, at this point Ultron would be Tony’s “greatest” most insane chaotic creation.
But in Endgame after running into his father in the past before he was born Tony realized his father loved him above all else and was always thinking of him and Tony also realized he loved his father as well which resolved their relationship in the end, but in Ultron Tony’s most insane chaotic creation was atoned for with his true "Greatest” and ultimately worth creation Vision...
@@psychoticblader2659 That's the downside of a Joss Whedon movie, there's almost always has to die. Also the fact that Marvel didn't have the character rights to Quicksilver at that time didn't really help.
That trailer made me go into the film expecting a serious movie with consequences, not the quip fest we got. The movie could've been amazing with just a few tweaks.
@@MaxIronsThird Exactly my problem with it as well. Ultron could have been such a menacing force to be reckoned with. I was expecting Live Free or Die Hard level stuff, where Ultron is using the internet to wage a technological war against the world. With the menace of Terminator meets Lex Luthor meets I, Robot type of villain and story, this movie could have been one of the most interesting and real-world kind of threats in the MCU... but then he forgets the word “children” and I’m just like, what? That doesn’t even make sense for a robot. You’re betraying basic logical stuff and a menacing tone just for not-even-funny moments like that? Very disappointing. At least Spader’s voice still provided a certain level of menace. But the characterization choices for Ultron and the lack of him being enough of an active global threat, despite having access to everything the internet is connected to... was probably the biggest missed opportunity of the whole MCU for me.
The thing about Age of Ultron is that is works really well as a piece of the puzzle and doesn't stand on its own hardly at all. So, to me, it's only gotten better with age and we can see the repercussions of everything that took place during it.
@@garywebb2432 - What I think BCT Alicorn means is that Age of Ultron doesn't work on it's own as a singular movie. If you're a Marvel newbie and haven't seen any of the preceding movies, watching Age of Ultron is going to be a rambling and confusing mess for you. Certainly it's a movie that will leave a newbie with far more questions than answers. Age of Ultron serves as a vital middle piece in the Infinity Saga puzzle. The film seamlessly fits and ties into the other movies that come before and after it and compliments them beautifully.
In TV it's the filler moments between characters that get us to care about them when the plot kicks back in. With TV it's because budgets are limited. This film captured those same moments. Also the fight between Hulk and Iron Man is fantastic.
@ well it's easier to run into that problem when you only have ~1 main supe, all too common. But Avengers had such a fast pace overall that I'm glad these guys actually sat down, drank a bit and chatted. I appreciate the efficiency over most of the series, but some moments like that are really invaluable in examining their actual chemistry and self conflict. Anyhow, definitely agree
Yea this movie took time to develop the characters and they weren’t all just cracking jokes. i wish ultron was a bit more creepy tho.. those trailers were so dope
It's probably the most important movie in the development of the Infinity Saga, honestly. Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame all take so much from AOU in terms of writing and character work
@@macvsogtaino2350he also just doesn't feel like quite a big threat for some reason. All his drones are weak and harmless and he somehow didn't make contingency backups and is defeated when Vision turns his Internet off. Like imagine if Loki had to resort to just... flying a jet after his face got injured. And THATS how he gets his only major kill in the movie.
I like to think the one scene close to the end where Ultron and Vision have their talk about humanity being doomed and whatnot... in that scene at the end all we see is them about to clash and them overwhelming light from the mind stone in Vision. Maybe Vision didn't fully destroy Ultron. Idk know how he could've saved him with the powers of the stone, but maybe he did. Maybe he somehow locked him away. The conversation they had doesn't give me a "alright time to destroy this robot for good" feel. In fact the opposite. Jus my theory. Probably a bad one too
I really love Age of Ultron, maybe because it’s the first Marvel movie I saw in theaters, but I can watch it over and over and I am always interested. James Spader did such a phenomenal job
I really liked this movie. Only thing I would have changed is Ultron having an expressive face. I think his unmoving, robotic face was much more effective in making him seem real and the expressive human like face made him just seem like a cgi villain.
I am glad this movie is getting more credit. I recently watched through the whole MCU (again), and was surprised how much I enjoyed AoU. I realised that it was because it is a movie that does a lot of the character and story building for the MCU AS A WHOLE. It is not as self contained as the other entries. The first time I saw it in the cinema, there was no future movies to riff off, so it fell a little flat for me. Not so once I had the reference of the other movies to think on. This movie utilises a heap of future calls and is actually integral to the MCU storyline as a whole. Think about how many memes have come from scenes in this movie alone! Anyhow, TLDR, AoU is a brick in the foundation of the MCU, made better by the sum of its universe. Great vid btw :)
@@danfish300 I'd say AoU was the ENTIRE foundation for the rest of the Infinity Saga. At minimum, it made the other movies look good or double check it's stories in order to avoid making AoU's 'mistakes', and at maximum the seeds planted in this movie bore a GREAT harvest for the MCU in later years.
So happy to see that AOU gets more praise now. I really love this movie, and never understood the hate. I guess people were dissapointed they didn‘t get a dark ultron, like in the comics. But I liked that they waited for the real dark stuff until Infinity War.
I think they initially hated it because there was too much set-up for future movies and didn't focus on its own plot enough. I personally really like it, not sure I would put it above the first one, but it's not even bottom 5 MCU movies
That's like saying The Dark Knight shouldn't have been a Dark Film and Joker shouldn't have been intemdating just to make the Dark Knight Rises and Bane more Dark, Intemdating and a better movie. You could've made The Movie Darker and Made Ultron intemdating in order to make it a superior sequel to the original and Have a much greater impact going into Civil War. Like Ultron causing a mass genocide in sokovia as an example. But it still won't top Infinity War because Infinity War does things on a more Universal Scale than Planetary like in Age Of Ultron. So it would always be better, plus, Infinity War is more of a Villain Movie than a Dark Movie. So if you make AOU Dark it would make it a special Avengers Movie instead of a Avengers 1 Rehash.
Extra credit for "all things serve the beam." I like your take on this, it's always been my favorite of the series, namely because it does have a comic book-like plot structure.
Honestly one of the most exciting part of What If series is Ultron will appear, an Ultron who succeeds his plan and becomes Vision with all 6 infinite stones
I also like how the last Vision/Ultron scene is a metphor of Joss handing the Avengers over to the Russo, who were "born yersteday" (the directed their first mcu movie the year before), and reflecting on the future of the franchise
@@philippebernard4577 idk, but it seems pretty "obvious", like whenever I watch the scene I think everything works with this metaphor, could be accidental but unlikely imo
My absolute favorite line is always Vision after his creation. When he says something like *There's no way for me to show you I'm worthy or good* and then *PICKS UP THE HAMMER!!!* 😯 I love that so much!!!
I couldn't have said it better. Really, I couldn't, words aren't my thing anymore. You pointed out everything I loved about that movie. I said it on Twitter the other day... I always love the awkward, middle-type movies. There was so much in AoU that was important and easily overlooked as *messy* but that's really what's great about it. All the mistakes made, etc. Anyway, great video.
The entire nature of the avengers and the MCU’s rules of engagement changes after AOU. Sokovia leads to the civil war over the accords, and the world view of them as uniformly positive gets completely inverted. Now nobody seems sure what to believe.
I love this movie, even more so after several viewings and the added context of the subsequent movies and shows. And you brought up several things I hadn't thought of that make me love it even more. Thanks.
My favorite Avengers film by far. I liked this video & the symbolism layout. I like that it’s not all action stuff through the entire thing, but you also see them interacting together, how clint has a totally normal life outside of the avengers, how clint & natasha are truly good friends, and vision & wanda are introduced and I love their characters. Also the fact that you used King of Hill reference in the video gave it an automatic like.
My biggest gripe with this movie is Ultron’s facial design. I LOVE the more skeletal design like when we first meet him or his epilogue with Vision, and wish the whole movie had that design.
Once again, a fantastic look into all that's going on "behind the screen" in a movie. I really like your analysis videos, Ryan, as they provide a lot more insight into what's going on. Well Done (again). And give Doug a treat for me!
All my friends think this is the weakest of the Avengers films, and even that it's just bad. I love it. Ultron was acted so well, we get 3 new Avenger characters in Pietro, Wanda, and Vision. Falcon and War-Machine get screen time in an Avengers film unlike last time, the Infinity Stones are brought to awareness via Thor. Those visions are used to continue to develop each of the characters for films to come, and yes, just like in the comics, sometimes you just want more of your character as they are, you don't need an introductory arc, or some climactic change of character, we just need to see them in action.
Its awesome to see the movie get recognition. Its one of the most rewatchable movies and has a lot of great scenes, like the 2 robots debating over humanity or the afterparty. I feel like the movie was a breath of fresh air to the superhero genre and brings in a lot of new themes.
Ultron is still one of my favorite MCU villains. I really appreciated how he wasn’t a standard rogue AI and had human-like emotions and made snarky comments. And his final scene with Vision is a thing of beauty. Not the best film but I think people are harder on it than they ought to be
What movie were you watching? That's not what I saw at all. They're some good character moments sure, but I thought the only characters that had an arc were Hawkeye and scarlet witch. Everyone else was a copy of tony for most of the movie.
13:13 Ultron "YOU..... will tear them apart....from the inside." [Zemo cuts into frame, pushes Wanda & Pietro aside] Meeeeee?!? Yesss Meeeee! I will do it in thee third Capitan Amerika moviee!
You’ve read my mind! I really love rewatching Age of Ultron for the many great scenes that you’ve pointed out in your video. It is messy, but I love it as well. Cheers!
Screencrush did a good job of helping me better appreciate AOG. The writing and acting may have surpassed the cinematic execution but overall it's a profound work of art that invites a very dynamic philosophical discussion
I thought about Frankenstein in one moment, in fact, and it wasn't any of the ones you mentioned. It's at 1:29:24, medieval castle walls, Ultron's back as he works on a table. He looks exactly like a mad doctor.
The beautiful writing makes this movie great. Natasha's describing Banner, Hawkeye talking to his wife, Natasha and Banner discussing running away, ect
I love James Spader and was looking forward to this movie. But it was a “dark” movie and lacked the warmth other MCU prior movies. You’re correct, the movie was stop and go and emotionally that’s hard to take. Quicksilver shouldn’t have been killed, the stakes were to low. The same is true for Ultron. Ultron’s character needed to be developed at an emotional level.
I love the "Man was not meant to meddle medley." line because I genuinely talk like that sometimes. I think a few sentences ahead in the conversation and come up with fun little alliterative lines that I know sound stupid but they make me happy. I genuinely think Stark feels the same way.
Joss Whedon definitely has his downfalls as a person but the poetry and metaphors within his works are unparalleled imo. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was my favorite show growing up. I can't even count how many times I've watched each episode and still to this day I learn something new every time when I watch it. I feel as if a lot of people talk negatively of his work because they just don't understand his use of literary techniques. This video did such an amazing job of breaking down Age Of Ultron. I am now a subscriber!! 👏🏻🤩
Age of Ultron is still one of my favorite MCU movies despite its flaws. I honestly prefer it over The Avengers. As much as some fans dislike this version of Ultron, I personally loved James Spader's version. The only misgiving I really had about the movie was killing Pietro off just because of the Fox/Marvel rivalry. I really hope they bring back Quicksilver one day.
Love, love, love. I could not agree more! Age of Ultron is so underrated, but this movie is the path, the bridge to much deeper characters and stories. It built up for the grand story that was the end of the Infinity Saga and the final chapter for our beloved OG Avengers.
I never realized Age of Ultron wasn't considered good. I always thought it was a typical comic book story, with crazy stuff happening that the heroes really see as crazy and then eventually solving the problems. Even most comic books, which are about 25-30 pages long, are solved by event in the final 3 pages... Often out of the blue, buy new information introduced in the last few frames.
Great review and outlook on the movie as always Ryan. As a South African I especially loved how you referred to Act 3 as the “Attack on Joburg” that was brilliant!
I see Wanda having a bigger role in this than you say. I believe it’s because of her spell on the Avengers that Tony makes Ultron. It seems like the Stark goes into some kind of dark place for this movie, he is like a tool for her. When Ultron later meets Wanda it seems there is a connection already, so I’ve always felt she was more influential in the plot.
Ryan, you are a masterful essayist. You bring points and follow with poignancy. This has me wanting to watch and appreciate it more and give it another watch.
There's a lot of Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy in that final scene between Ultron and Vision. Of man being a tightrope between beast and superman. Ultron takes the Nazi's view that he is the superman, he is the ultimate evolution and that which came before can only pollute and degenerate his purity. Vision truly understands that evolution is an ongoing process, that all beings are born obsolete, that their highest vocation is to build a better world for those who will follow.
Ngl, I’ve always enjoyed this movie. While I was always aware of the flaws in it, the insight we got into all the characters helped ground them and made them all relatable with the audience. Ultron is one of my favorite villains in the comics and I was happy to finally see him in a movie. Finally the foreshadowing this movie provided for the later films was great. When it first came out, it wasn’t the best but looking back in retrospect, it’s probably on of the most important movies in the infinity saga.
I feel like this video put into words all the reasons why i love Age of Ulton! I admit, if i have to choose between TV and film, TV will win every time. This is because with TV, we see more character development and have the time to see the emotional beats between characters. Age of Ultron gave me that, It showed the characters battling with their internal struggles as well as delved deeper into who they are without the Avenger title.
This is one of your best break downs. I have always loved this movie because it has a lot of dead sub-text. This movie requires active participation and analysis to understand that sub-text.
I like to think Ultron "forgot" the word children as a way to be more charismatic. I mean the twins were borderline smiling at that line. Winning them over by appearing "human".
Unlike most others I kind of liked a bit of emotional exchange between Hulk & Black Widow in AOU. I wish they showed just even a-second-long scene of Bruce in the mainframe shedding a tear after Natasha's death in Endgame, would have completed their emotional arcs instead of just being forgotten.
It’s like you went straight into my brain and made this video to explain every reason why I LOVE this movie Another thing I’ll really thank you for is finally explaining to me why most fans dislike this movie (bc honestly I never understood)
I love this movie. The scene near the end b/w Ultron and Wanda… Elizabeth Olsen’s delivery of, “It felt like that,” as she grips Ultron’s extricated “heart” in her hand. Gets me every time.
That conversation between Vision and Ultron at the end alone makes this movies brilliant. My only two problems with this movie is the death of Pietro, who is my favorite character and I still want him back, that version played by ATJ in particular (and I also want Ultron back!), and the part with Natasha where she makes it seem like being infertile is more of a reason for seeing herself as a monster than her past as an assassin. I always hate it when stories make motherhood or fatherhood, or the biological ability to procreate, is equated to their humanity, as if they're any less human if they're unable or unwilling. It's a beef I have with natalist propaganda in general. Great video and I pretty much agree with all your points here. Age of Ultron is indeed a beautiful mess and I love it too.
I love age of ultron and I’ve probably rewatched this movie most of any MCU movie. You’re the first “critic” to explain why it’s so good despite its flaws.
This movie was always one of my favorites. I always knew it was cheesy, but it just hit something in my heart so hard. Natasha and Bruce literally broke me; I actually sob when he leaves
I've always loved this film. I haven't thought about it in depth the way you have but it's always struck a chord with me. I especially love James Spader as Ultron. I think he's the perfect voice for a great villain that everyone loves to hate. it is messy but I don't care. There's a great story here.
It’s interesting how well and terribly this movie does Chekhov’s gun. On one hand you have the avengers early on in the film setting up that no one else but Thor is worthy to lift the hammer then later in the film they pay it off by proving that vison is also worthy. But on the other hand they put in two scenes of Quicksilver being way faster than bullets then later killing him off with bullets. In the end I look at this movie like I do X-men apocalypse is a good movie? No, is it as good as it could’ve been? No but it’s a fun movie to watch regardless. Ironically my favorite part about X-men apocalypse is Quicksilver and my least favorite part of Avengers Age of ultron is Quicksilver
@@pickle.786 he’s way faster than the bullets which means he should’ve been able to move Hawkeye and the kid without getting hit. If they wanted to kill him off they should’ve set up that someone needed to stay on Sokovia to hold down a lever or something and that he stayed because he’s the fastest and would make it out in time.
@@rosshauler7688 i dont remember ultron too well but at least for the fox quicksilver yea he was waaaay faster, but that's why he was killed bc the corporate deal, shame bc he was awesome for the one movie
@@pickle.786 marvel had full rights to use quicksilver in 2015 they just couldn’t use the name quicksilver or reference that he was a mutant. Also the dude has seven lines of dialog and his only screen time is standing behind characters
To me, this is why I love AoU, it's because it took blockbuster stand alone movies and used this movie to make it like a TV show where they could flesh out the characters more and set up for future things. Something that 90-120 min movies just don't have the time to do.
I don't think Steve desired a family life in Age of Ultron. I think he feared it. His fear of women in general is pretty clear in Captain America 1, and his awkwardness is still there in Winter Soldier. That makes his vision in AoE parallel to that of the others (as a fear), and makes better sense of his throwing himself into his work. It also means that at the end of Endgame, he was facing his final fear.
I really enjoy these breakdowns that focus more on character development, with all the philosophical/ethical/behavioral pattern that make them somewhat relatable Way to go Ryan! Keep them coming! BTW: I actually enjoy Avengers: Age of Ultron for how pivotal it is in the MCU (even if less action packed)
“Because Tony hates Tony”. Tony definitely hates himself, but Tony’s relationship with his father is beyond strained, and totally fractured. Tony says “You’re breaking your old mans heart” to Ultron, Tony’s relationship with his father and the gross repressed feelings is the dynamic being portrayed with Tony & Ultron. “You’re my greatest creation” was Howard’s statement to Tony in the film strip, at this point Ultron would be Tony’s “greatest” most insane chaotic creation.
Now it’s probably Morgan lol
But in Endgame after running into his father in the past before he was born Tony realized his father loved him above all else and was always thinking of him and Tony also realized he loved his father as well which resolved their relationship in the end, but in Ultron Tony’s most insane chaotic creation was atoned for with his true "Greatest” and ultimately worth creation Vision...
@@accutronitisthe2nd95 this is an essay on Age of Ultron, Endgame hasn’t been released yet.
Wait a second could you count ultron as morgans brother,lol
Only complaints I had for Age of Ultron was killing quick silver, with bullets. And that end credits scene. I would like Ultron back.
Quicksilver sacrificed himself
yeah i agree with you because whats the point of introducing a character in the movie and getting it killed 😑
and seriously i was so mad
@@lucasharris4209 no shit.
@@psychoticblader2659 That's the downside of a Joss Whedon movie, there's almost always has to die. Also the fact that Marvel didn't have the character rights to Quicksilver at that time didn't really help.
@@ChrisChanSajelan yeah but i really miss that character and i hope they brought him back. 😥😣
That Pinocchio themed Ultron trailer was so fucking great.
which trailer im curious
Yup, I believe it's one of the best trailers. Then they made him a clown. This fact alone disappoints me the most.
That trailer made me go into the film expecting a serious movie with consequences, not the quip fest we got.
The movie could've been amazing with just a few tweaks.
The trailer outdoes 99% of films nowadays. Including the movie it was made for.
@@MaxIronsThird Exactly my problem with it as well. Ultron could have been such a menacing force to be reckoned with. I was expecting Live Free or Die Hard level stuff, where Ultron is using the internet to wage a technological war against the world. With the menace of Terminator meets Lex Luthor meets I, Robot type of villain and story, this movie could have been one of the most interesting and real-world kind of threats in the MCU... but then he forgets the word “children” and I’m just like, what? That doesn’t even make sense for a robot. You’re betraying basic logical stuff and a menacing tone just for not-even-funny moments like that? Very disappointing.
At least Spader’s voice still provided a certain level of menace. But the characterization choices for Ultron and the lack of him being enough of an active global threat, despite having access to everything the internet is connected to... was probably the biggest missed opportunity of the whole MCU for me.
I actually just rewatched it last night, and man now that I've seen WandaVision, it hits different.
The thing about Age of Ultron is that is works really well as a piece of the puzzle and doesn't stand on its own hardly at all. So, to me, it's only gotten better with age and we can see the repercussions of everything that took place during it.
@@bctalicorn809 it definitely stands on its own wtf? lmaoo
@@garywebb2432 - What I think BCT Alicorn means is that Age of Ultron doesn't work on it's own as a singular movie. If you're a Marvel newbie and haven't seen any of the preceding movies, watching Age of Ultron is going to be a rambling and confusing mess for you. Certainly it's a movie that will leave a newbie with far more questions than answers. Age of Ultron serves as a vital middle piece in the Infinity Saga puzzle. The film seamlessly fits and ties into the other movies that come before and after it and compliments them beautifully.
@@SoulShines4Music age of ultron definitely stands on its own
It definitely aged better
In TV it's the filler moments between characters that get us to care about them when the plot kicks back in. With TV it's because budgets are limited. This film captured those same moments. Also the fight between Hulk and Iron Man is fantastic.
@ well it's easier to run into that problem when you only have ~1 main supe, all too common. But Avengers had such a fast pace overall that I'm glad these guys actually sat down, drank a bit and chatted. I appreciate the efficiency over most of the series, but some moments like that are really invaluable in examining their actual chemistry and self conflict. Anyhow, definitely agree
I never had a problem with Age of Ultron, I always liked it. There were so many call backs to this movie in Endgame.
It's 1 of the most important films
Yea this movie took time to develop the characters and they weren’t all just cracking jokes. i wish ultron was a bit more creepy tho.. those trailers were so dope
It's probably the most important movie in the development of the Infinity Saga, honestly. Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame all take so much from AOU in terms of writing and character work
@@macvsogtaino2350he also just doesn't feel like quite a big threat for some reason. All his drones are weak and harmless and he somehow didn't make contingency backups and is defeated when Vision turns his Internet off.
Like imagine if Loki had to resort to just... flying a jet after his face got injured. And THATS how he gets his only major kill in the movie.
@@Stephanie-mv9iy yeah it would be my favourite mcu movie if he wasn't so weak in the ending
Ultron had some amazing dialogue. Carried the whole movie.
Yea definitely cast him right too
Most underrated villain for sure
I agree
Also Vision
Whedon sucks. Look at justice league too
James Spader was perfect as Ultron, i miss him so much.
I didn't know he died.
@@eddyk3 he's alive. He's on the show Blacklist.
@@eddyk3 Oh he's still alive, I just miss him in MCU/Ultron.
He is an amazing actor. Especially when it comes to intelligence w/ a hint of unconformiality (Is that a word lol). I wished his dialogue was better.
@@klopson9703 He's possibly still out there in MCU.
Said before and I’ll say it again. Ultron is the most underrated villain in the MCU.
Honestly might be my fav villain so far, I hope he finds a way back
I mean he can technically rule the entire universe since he can replicate himself so power increases exponentially
I like to think the one scene close to the end where Ultron and Vision have their talk about humanity being doomed and whatnot... in that scene at the end all we see is them about to clash and them overwhelming light from the mind stone in Vision. Maybe Vision didn't fully destroy Ultron. Idk know how he could've saved him with the powers of the stone, but maybe he did. Maybe he somehow locked him away. The conversation they had doesn't give me a "alright time to destroy this robot for good" feel. In fact the opposite. Jus my theory. Probably a bad one too
Underdeveloped and underused, more like
Not anymore
I really love Age of Ultron, maybe because it’s the first Marvel movie I saw in theaters, but I can watch it over and over and I am always interested. James Spader did such a phenomenal job
This was my first movie from marvel and I couldn’t agree more
I loved how it felt kinda comic-book ish chaotic, picturesque feeling. Also the after party will forever be one of the best MCU scenes ever
True. Cherished forever.
I always just loved James Spader’s performance, if nothing else his voice work and the dialogue they gave Ultron was spot on.
Wandavision alone made Age of Ultron better.
Best part of AoU though: James Spader
You can put Spader in anything and it will become instantly 10 times better.
Or in the office’s case make something great that’s about to go to shit stay alive for just a bit longer
Explain
I really liked this movie. Only thing I would have changed is Ultron having an expressive face. I think his unmoving, robotic face was much more effective in making him seem real and the expressive human like face made him just seem like a cgi villain.
That is the most difficult aspect to deal with in all vfx. That was the best they could do back then. It's getting better every year
Ultron did not have a moving mouth in the comics
He was supposed to be "beautiful", as he said. He was supposed to be Vision, who actually had a human-like face.
I absolutely agree, when he talks vibranium shouldn't be bending like lips.
Good point! There's a bit of Uncanny Valley-ness to his MCU design: he looks almost too human, when he's supposed to be a robot.
I actually rewatched this movie last night along with the first avengers and found that age of ultron was much more enjoyable to watch.
Because you are hyped since you didnt watch it in a long time
Same 👁. Fascinating 👀
I am glad this movie is getting more credit.
I recently watched through the whole MCU (again), and was surprised how much I enjoyed AoU. I realised that it was because it is a movie that does a lot of the character and story building for the MCU AS A WHOLE. It is not as self contained as the other entries.
The first time I saw it in the cinema, there was no future movies to riff off, so it fell a little flat for me. Not so once I had the reference of the other movies to think on. This movie utilises a heap of future calls and is actually integral to the MCU storyline as a whole. Think about how many memes have come from scenes in this movie alone!
Anyhow, TLDR, AoU is a brick in the foundation of the MCU, made better by the sum of its universe.
Great vid btw :)
Couldn’t agree more!!
Dont me to sound stupid or anything but whats TLDR?
@@jakegriff2908 Too Long Didn't Read.
It is a way of concentrating a point so people do not have to read a whole rant.
@@danfish300 thanks for the explanation
@@danfish300 I'd say AoU was the ENTIRE foundation for the rest of the Infinity Saga. At minimum, it made the other movies look good or double check it's stories in order to avoid making AoU's 'mistakes', and at maximum the seeds planted in this movie bore a GREAT harvest for the MCU in later years.
That last exchange between Ultron and Vision is one of the best scenes of the MCU
So happy to see that AOU gets more praise now. I really love this movie, and never understood the hate.
I guess people were dissapointed they didn‘t get a dark ultron, like in the comics. But I liked that they waited for the real dark stuff until Infinity War.
I think they initially hated it because there was too much set-up for future movies and didn't focus on its own plot enough. I personally really like it, not sure I would put it above the first one, but it's not even bottom 5 MCU movies
That's like saying The Dark Knight shouldn't have been a Dark Film and Joker shouldn't have been intemdating just to make the Dark Knight Rises and Bane more Dark, Intemdating and a better movie.
You could've made The Movie Darker and Made Ultron intemdating in order to make it a superior sequel to the original and Have a much greater impact going into Civil War. Like Ultron causing a mass genocide in sokovia as an example.
But it still won't top Infinity War because Infinity War does things on a more Universal Scale than Planetary like in Age Of Ultron. So it would always be better, plus, Infinity War is more of a Villain Movie than a Dark Movie. So if you make AOU Dark it would make it a special Avengers Movie instead of a Avengers 1 Rehash.
“I never stopped, cause the truth is I don’t wanna stop” was always one of my fave lines from Tony
I’ve been saying for years that I like Age of Ultron more than the first Avengers movie. This was an amazing breakdown. Salute 💯
Didn't see that comin
I agree! I love this movie a lot. I think its also super meaningful… and the main soundtrack by danny elfman is amazing
Extra credit for "all things serve the beam."
I like your take on this, it's always been my favorite of the series, namely because it does have a comic book-like plot structure.
Bird and bear and hare and fish
Had to pause and back up to see if I heard that right. About choked on my damn popkin.
Honestly one of the most exciting part of What If series is Ultron will appear, an Ultron who succeeds his plan and becomes Vision with all 6 infinite stones
I fcking love ultron
That episode got pushed back to season 2. It’s only 9 episodes first season instead of 10 😢
@@SamuelThadius12 we’re not sure. Like we don’t even know which episode is which episode except the first three
For a advanced AI, he didnt seem to have a backup of himself anywhere.
@@SamuelThadius12 no it did not, there was always only 9 episodes
I also like how the last Vision/Ultron scene is a metphor of Joss handing the Avengers over to the Russo, who were "born yersteday" (the directed their first mcu movie the year before), and reflecting on the future of the franchise
Waow !... You're going far. Did he have the final cut ? I have my doubts...
But why not ?! Maybe you're right !
@@philippebernard4577 idk, but it seems pretty "obvious", like whenever I watch the scene I think everything works with this metaphor, could be accidental but unlikely imo
I was born yesterday is my favorite line in the whole movie.
Yeah no
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My absolute favorite line is always Vision after his creation. When he says something like *There's no way for me to show you I'm worthy or good* and then *PICKS UP THE HAMMER!!!* 😯 I love that so much!!!
I couldn't have said it better. Really, I couldn't, words aren't my thing anymore. You pointed out everything I loved about that movie. I said it on Twitter the other day... I always love the awkward, middle-type movies. There was so much in AoU that was important and easily overlooked as *messy* but that's really what's great about it. All the mistakes made, etc. Anyway, great video.
The entire nature of the avengers and the MCU’s rules of engagement changes after AOU. Sokovia leads to the civil war over the accords, and the world view of them as uniformly positive gets completely inverted. Now nobody seems sure what to believe.
It was a necessary film 2 carry on the stories & add development
Wow, incredible work by you and the team, Ryan. Let's not forget this is the movie which brought Lizzie Olsen into the fold and gave us "WandaVision."
I love this movie, even more so after several viewings and the added context of the subsequent movies and shows. And you brought up several things I hadn't thought of that make me love it even more. Thanks.
My favorite Avengers film by far. I liked this video & the symbolism layout. I like that it’s not all action stuff through the entire thing, but you also see them interacting together, how clint has a totally normal life outside of the avengers, how clint & natasha are truly good friends, and vision & wanda are introduced and I love their characters. Also the fact that you used King of Hill reference in the video gave it an automatic like.
The party scene and Hawkey's family scene are wonderful!
Love the party scene
Unpopular opinion, this is the best Avengers movie that set up Civil War perfectly
It's had the hard job of being the sequel, but it set up my favorite MCU films
My biggest gripe with this movie is Ultron’s facial design. I LOVE the more skeletal design like when we first meet him or his epilogue with Vision, and wish the whole movie had that design.
its all a part of his evolution
That subtle "The Dark Tower" reference! You haven't forgotten the face of your father, sai. Long days and pleasant nights.
I’d rather a beautiful mess to a complicated mess like dark world
Idk but I think Dark World is a boring mess rather than a complicated mess
wow RYAN, ONCE AGAIN YOU KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. THESE MOVIES DESERVE A COLLEDGE COURSE IN PSYCHOLOGY I ALWAYS THOUGHT.
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Once again, a fantastic look into all that's going on "behind the screen" in a movie. I really like your analysis videos, Ryan, as they provide a lot more insight into what's going on. Well Done (again). And give Doug a treat for me!
I describe it as Joss Whedon’s love-letter to us Bronze Age American comic fans!
All my friends think this is the weakest of the Avengers films, and even that it's just bad. I love it. Ultron was acted so well, we get 3 new Avenger characters in Pietro, Wanda, and Vision. Falcon and War-Machine get screen time in an Avengers film unlike last time, the Infinity Stones are brought to awareness via Thor. Those visions are used to continue to develop each of the characters for films to come, and yes, just like in the comics, sometimes you just want more of your character as they are, you don't need an introductory arc, or some climactic change of character, we just need to see them in action.
This was a FANTASTIC breakdown, and says all the things I always wanted to say, far better than I ever could. Keep it up Ryan!
I love the way you think and analize things, Ryan. Even when I don't agree with certain things, the way your mind works amazes me. Keep 'em coming.
"And we see their worse nightmare unfold in _Wanda's visions."_ I pictured Paul Bettany looking dead-pan at the camera.
“All things serve the beam.”
We are well met.
Its awesome to see the movie get recognition. Its one of the most rewatchable movies and has a lot of great scenes, like the 2 robots debating over humanity or the afterparty. I feel like the movie was a breath of fresh air to the superhero genre and brings in a lot of new themes.
I love these breakdowns way more than the re-writes.
Ultron is still one of my favorite MCU villains. I really appreciated how he wasn’t a standard rogue AI and had human-like emotions and made snarky comments. And his final scene with Vision is a thing of beauty. Not the best film but I think people are harder on it than they ought to be
Agreed. I love Age of Ultron because it’s basically 2 hours of great character moments.
What movie were you watching? That's not what I saw at all. They're some good character moments sure, but I thought the only characters that had an arc were Hawkeye and scarlet witch. Everyone else was a copy of tony for most of the movie.
Ryan, you are so underrated. Every video you make is so good.
13:13 Ultron "YOU..... will tear them apart....from the inside." [Zemo cuts into frame, pushes Wanda & Pietro aside] Meeeeee?!? Yesss Meeeee! I will do it in thee third Capitan Amerika moviee!
I totally lost it when he said, "If the mcu has one theme, apart from DADS"
You’ve read my mind! I really love rewatching Age of Ultron for the many great scenes that you’ve pointed out in your video. It is messy, but I love it as well. Cheers!
I love this movie too. idk why Olsen's accent is enough to tune out but I'm here for it on repeat
“there is grace in their failings” applies well to the whole movie
Screencrush did a good job of helping me better appreciate AOG. The writing and acting may have surpassed the cinematic execution but overall it's a profound work of art that invites a very dynamic philosophical discussion
totally agree
I thought about Frankenstein in one moment, in fact, and it wasn't any of the ones you mentioned. It's at 1:29:24, medieval castle walls, Ultron's back as he works on a table. He looks exactly like a mad doctor.
I was so happy you came back around and played the rest of Clint’s wife telling him how much they need him
The exchange at the end, in cadence, reminded me of Giles 'She's a hero' speech in the Buffy episode 'The Gift'.
James Spader needs to be back asap
The beautiful writing makes this movie great. Natasha's describing Banner, Hawkeye talking to his wife, Natasha and Banner discussing running away, ect
I love James Spader and was looking forward to this movie. But it was a “dark” movie and lacked the warmth other MCU prior movies. You’re correct, the movie was stop and go and emotionally that’s hard to take. Quicksilver shouldn’t have been killed, the stakes were to low. The same is true for Ultron. Ultron’s character needed to be developed at an emotional level.
I love the "Man was not meant to meddle medley." line because I genuinely talk like that sometimes. I think a few sentences ahead in the conversation and come up with fun little alliterative lines that I know sound stupid but they make me happy. I genuinely think Stark feels the same way.
This movie has definitely aged well.
It's 1 of the most important films
This just made Age of Ultron sensational for me instead of boring. Thanks dude
Thank you for showing me how to love this movie. Never noticed how orchestrated its depth was. Wish it was done better now.
Joss Whedon definitely has his downfalls as a person but the poetry and metaphors within his works are unparalleled imo. Buffy the Vampire Slayer was my favorite show growing up. I can't even count how many times I've watched each episode and still to this day I learn something new every time when I watch it. I feel as if a lot of people talk negatively of his work because they just don't understand his use of literary techniques. This video did such an amazing job of breaking down Age Of Ultron. I am now a subscriber!! 👏🏻🤩
Age of Ultron is still one of my favorite MCU movies despite its flaws. I honestly prefer it over The Avengers. As much as some fans dislike this version of Ultron, I personally loved James Spader's version. The only misgiving I really had about the movie was killing Pietro off just because of the Fox/Marvel rivalry. I really hope they bring back Quicksilver one day.
Love, love, love. I could not agree more! Age of Ultron is so underrated, but this movie is the path, the bridge to much deeper characters and stories. It built up for the grand story that was the end of the Infinity Saga and the final chapter for our beloved OG Avengers.
I never realized Age of Ultron wasn't considered good. I always thought it was a typical comic book story, with crazy stuff happening that the heroes really see as crazy and then eventually solving the problems.
Even most comic books, which are about 25-30 pages long, are solved by event in the final 3 pages... Often out of the blue, buy new information introduced in the last few frames.
Great review and outlook on the movie as always Ryan. As a South African I especially loved how you referred to Act 3 as the “Attack on Joburg” that was brilliant!
I see Wanda having a bigger role in this than you say. I believe it’s because of her spell on the Avengers that Tony makes Ultron. It seems like the Stark goes into some kind of dark place for this movie, he is like a tool for her. When Ultron later meets Wanda it seems there is a connection already, so I’ve always felt she was more influential in the plot.
Apropos of nothing, a RUclips ad popped in right before Rey could say “Skywalker”. Sometimes the RUclips ads come at the right time.
Ryan, you are a masterful essayist. You bring points and follow with poignancy. This has me wanting to watch and appreciate it more and give it another watch.
There's a lot of Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy in that final scene between Ultron and Vision. Of man being a tightrope between beast and superman. Ultron takes the Nazi's view that he is the superman, he is the ultimate evolution and that which came before can only pollute and degenerate his purity. Vision truly understands that evolution is an ongoing process, that all beings are born obsolete, that their highest vocation is to build a better world for those who will follow.
Thank you! I could never understand why there was so much hate for this movie. It's one of my favorites in the MCU!
hey this is not fair, you cant just make this essays from all the marvel movies and suddenly make me love them more
Ngl, I’ve always enjoyed this movie. While I was always aware of the flaws in it, the insight we got into all the characters helped ground them and made them all relatable with the audience. Ultron is one of my favorite villains in the comics and I was happy to finally see him in a movie. Finally the foreshadowing this movie provided for the later films was great. When it first came out, it wasn’t the best but looking back in retrospect, it’s probably on of the most important movies in the infinity saga.
Thanks Ryan for doing this video. I also have always loved Age of Ultron as well and it is nice to see a positive video about the movie. Well Done.
I feel like this video put into words all the reasons why i love Age of Ulton! I admit, if i have to choose between TV and film, TV will win every time. This is because with TV, we see more character development and have the time to see the emotional beats between characters. Age of Ultron gave me that, It showed the characters battling with their internal struggles as well as delved deeper into who they are without the Avenger title.
This is one of your best break downs. I have always loved this movie because it has a lot of dead sub-text. This movie requires active participation and analysis to understand that sub-text.
I really like age of ultron. Besides, it gave us vision, wanda, the infinity stones...
I like to think Ultron "forgot" the word children as a way to be more charismatic. I mean the twins were borderline smiling at that line. Winning them over by appearing "human".
It’s good to see a nerd liking a thing even though it’s not perfect. Thank you for using your powers for good.
Unlike most others I kind of liked a bit of emotional exchange between Hulk & Black Widow in AOU. I wish they showed just even a-second-long scene of Bruce in the mainframe shedding a tear after Natasha's death in Endgame, would have completed their emotional arcs instead of just being forgotten.
It’s like you went straight into my brain and made this video to explain every reason why I LOVE this movie
Another thing I’ll really thank you for is finally explaining to me why most fans dislike this movie (bc honestly I never understood)
I love this movie. The scene near the end b/w Ultron and Wanda… Elizabeth Olsen’s delivery of, “It felt like that,” as she grips Ultron’s extricated “heart” in her hand. Gets me every time.
That conversation between Vision and Ultron at the end alone makes this movies brilliant. My only two problems with this movie is the death of Pietro, who is my favorite character and I still want him back, that version played by ATJ in particular (and I also want Ultron back!), and the part with Natasha where she makes it seem like being infertile is more of a reason for seeing herself as a monster than her past as an assassin. I always hate it when stories make motherhood or fatherhood, or the biological ability to procreate, is equated to their humanity, as if they're any less human if they're unable or unwilling. It's a beef I have with natalist propaganda in general. Great video and I pretty much agree with all your points here. Age of Ultron is indeed a beautiful mess and I love it too.
I love age of ultron and I’ve probably rewatched this movie most of any MCU movie. You’re the first “critic” to explain why it’s so good despite its flaws.
This movie was always one of my favorites. I always knew it was cheesy, but it just hit something in my heart so hard. Natasha and Bruce literally broke me; I actually sob when he leaves
Wow! What a beautifully done essay. Ryan masterfully put into words all the feelings I had about this film, but couldn't quite articulate. Bravo, sir.
I've always loved this film. I haven't thought about it in depth the way you have but it's always struck a chord with me. I especially love James Spader as Ultron. I think he's the perfect voice for a great villain that everyone loves to hate. it is messy but I don't care. There's a great story here.
I always felt that Age of Ultron is my favorite Avengers movie, but never knew exactly why. Now I know.
It’s interesting how well and terribly this movie does Chekhov’s gun. On one hand you have the avengers early on in the film setting up that no one else but Thor is worthy to lift the hammer then later in the film they pay it off by proving that vison is also worthy. But on the other hand they put in two scenes of Quicksilver being way faster than bullets then later killing him off with bullets. In the end I look at this movie like I do X-men apocalypse is a good movie? No, is it as good as it could’ve been? No but it’s a fun movie to watch regardless. Ironically my favorite part about X-men apocalypse is Quicksilver and my least favorite part of Avengers Age of ultron is Quicksilver
@@pickle.786 he’s way faster than the bullets which means he should’ve been able to move Hawkeye and the kid without getting hit. If they wanted to kill him off they should’ve set up that someone needed to stay on Sokovia to hold down a lever or something and that he stayed because he’s the fastest and would make it out in time.
@@rosshauler7688 i dont remember ultron too well but at least for the fox quicksilver yea he was waaaay faster, but that's why he was killed bc the corporate deal, shame bc he was awesome for the one movie
@@pickle.786 marvel had full rights to use quicksilver in 2015 they just couldn’t use the name quicksilver or reference that he was a mutant. Also the dude has seven lines of dialog and his only screen time is standing behind characters
@@rosshauler7688 damn what a wasted opportunity then
To me, this is why I love AoU, it's because it took blockbuster stand alone movies and used this movie to make it like a TV show where they could flesh out the characters more and set up for future things. Something that 90-120 min movies just don't have the time to do.
I thought the stone in Loki's scepter was somehow influencing everyone's behavior?
Ultron clearly states his motivations several times along with the Avengers going over why he's doing what he's doing.
I don't think Steve desired a family life in Age of Ultron. I think he feared it. His fear of women in general is pretty clear in Captain America 1, and his awkwardness is still there in Winter Soldier. That makes his vision in AoE parallel to that of the others (as a fear), and makes better sense of his throwing himself into his work. It also means that at the end of Endgame, he was facing his final fear.
Downy & Spader were 80’s teen villains, too. So, excellent casting.
And it helps emphasize who the greatest monster is in the MCU: Tony Stark.
Agreed. A lot of MCU story lines lead back to Tony, and he perfected time travel. And what is coming in the future? A time traveling villain in Kang.
This is a great video and you've come such a long way still! Truly one of youtube's finest
I really like this movie. Great video!
I really enjoy these breakdowns that focus more on character development, with all the philosophical/ethical/behavioral pattern that make them somewhat relatable
Way to go Ryan!
Keep them coming!
BTW: I actually enjoy Avengers: Age of Ultron for how pivotal it is in the MCU (even if less action packed)