@@J2I3H gotta be late 40s. But don't tell these simps that. Let them see the 38 stock bhp as gospel. Less chance of them selling out for the rest of us 😎
@Brad.Atv. haha true that, 40 whp would be nice. Lithium battery and different exhaust will get the weight close to the og drz. I'll keep trashing my trusty old tt600re sm (also 50hp 150 kg wet). Nothing beats old school simple air cooled thumpers
That would be the win. Be cool to gain 5 maybe 10 hp off just a tune. And the bike will run perfect. I think, since they already have 3 modes to ride with you can def upload a new map and open it up
EFI means it will be choked for emissions, that’s unavoidable on anything street legal, but an ECU flash or swap is generally good for a lot and the aftermarket is usually pretty quick to offer a solution there.
Since the very first DRZ400 was sold over 20 years ago, owners have asked suzuki to fix one thing. The gearbox ! 20 years, and they couldn't fix the one thing it needed. 38hp and riding modes 😂, no 6 speed😂,traction😂.
EFI is definitely nice (but frankly, I never had problems with carbs). No increase to 6 speed (STILL a 5 speed) which was a frequent request by many users/potential users and HP and Torque (and their peak value rpms) basically the same values as the old model, yet the bike appears to be 15lbs/7kg HEAVIER than the older bike. The only reason I'm waiting for this to come out is so that the price drops on the used DRZ400s that are likely to have similar performance, but less complexity (do I really need different modes on a 38hp motor???) and importantly less weight. I'm sure if I rode it I'd feel differently and I'd be shocked if it wasn't a good bike but based on what I see so far why, but why is this particularly interesting or even news? It appears to be a mild refresh at best, (bringing it into the 2020s and current emissions rules), and is candidly a bit disappointing at least from my perspective. (The S now appears to have inverted forks so that's something (arguably more aesthetic for most riders than anything) I suppose) I suspect this is going to be a fun bike, but at least for me I'm hoping it means used DRZ400s at a lower price :)
@@the.communist LOL im screenshotting this xD the level of irony captured between your name and comment. the Projection is real ahh so satisfying. I bet you are really blown the country chose classical liberalism over your authoritarianism arent you xD I think I just came.. There is no difference between the ideology in your name and the one that starts with an F. Both involved central control over means of production either through waivers or direct government control. both regulate speech. both believe in wrong-think and engage in creating a sociological "other" they rally society against... lol what a joke. Im putting you on a t-shirt and turning you into a meme. Thanks for this :D
That’s pretty cool and an answered wish of many riders. I’ve been wanting a lighter dual sport to add an alternative to my ADV bike. I was a big fan of my old VSTROM and have always wanted another Suzuki. I’ll be keeping an eye out for this one. Well done!
WOW! This is awesome! The internet has been speculating about a new DRZ after US Patent documents were discovered back in September. I told me dealer I wanted to get on the waiting list. They said "we haven't heard anything about a new DRZ - Suzuki hasn't change it in forever, and likely won't". I said "I still want on the waiting list if a new one comes!" I'm going to stop in there today and talk to them more about it.
@@xau I had a DRZ sm and with a 6th gear it would have been way better. Possibly to save money they just put a tallish 5th gear for commute duties and call it a day..
Bit heavy but should hopefully have a good aftermarket. 5 speed isn't ideal but it can save money and weight, just needs good gear ratios. Should be a popular bike, hopefully it could lead to higher displacement CRF/KLX.
imagine if they do it the bas7ards 🙂 i mean why not? the only place that still sells the DR new is the states - huge sales being given to competition , gimme a 650
Just great 🎉 Waiting for a bike like this for many years. Perfect balance of power and handling i guess. Good for sharp corners. Also the maintenance is really important
Wow - almost 30 (THIRTY!) years of development has led to a bike that has an amazing 3½ hp more and +26(!!) kg more weight than my XR400R from the Stone Age! That's REALLY impressive.............................
i own a small cc KLX150L.... and its ok and all but the handlebars vibrate it makes my hands quickly go numb. its the only thing i probably hate about it. Will a bigger cc - but single cylinder variant like this still vibrate as much?
You had one job Suzuki One job! 5-speed gearbox is what everybody has complained about this bike for decades, literally. How you could so thoroughly revise this motorcycle and not start with a six-speed box is just dumbfounding.
Should have used a RMZ 450 with Lighting and Wide Ratio 6 speed gearbox maybe in 10-20 more years if Suzuki is still around, ok back to sleep and dreaming again
More evidence that euro 5 regulations are making bikes worse, the new bike is down about 1hp and 1nm of torque compared to the old bike, plus its gained about 7kg of weight, and no we don't need rider modes and traction control on a bike with 40hp, and I assume it will be more expensive than the older model too, I would take the old bike hands down.
5 speeds, five damn speeds, i hope they at least readjuted and made act wide gear ratio gearbox from factory. holy fck 5 speeds is the main drawback from old drz, if there wasn't act gearbox i'd sold my drz
You really only need a 6 speed for a bike lacking torque. As long as they corrected the terrible close ratio I have no issue without having a 6th gear.
@@kaptainkyle70 I'm afraid you may be right. My biggest beef was the transmission. Not a deal killer for me. But I'd just as soon have the old model if the transmission is the same.
I think they really missed a few key mods. Ive owned a 2006 Drz400 and overall had very few complaints. I'm really bummed about no 6 speed. They could have given this bike both legit off road gearing and an overdrive. That would have been Christmas early. Also, maybe a stretch, but cruise control would have been slick as well. Otherwise, i think most of the updates are pretty good.
One thing I just don't understand is how in this era of space age materials and technology and engineering advancement, motorcycles still manage to keep getting heavier.
Exactly, some will blame it on regulations, but I still don't think it adds up, the new bike weighs about 7kg more, ABS might add 2kg at most, so that would mean the new euro 5 full exhaust would weigh 5kg more than the full exhaust on the old model, which already weighed 5kg, and I don't buy it that a full euro 5 exhaust for the drz would weigh 10kg, plus the new model has a slightly smaller tank, so where's the extra weight coming from?
@@benjy288yes unfortunately it's because the European regulations, they cannot have a certain power to weight ratio because bureaucrats decided what you need and what you don't.
Lets hope they lighten it with a kickstarter. Modernising in these backwards times means castrating with euro 5 or worse. Lets end the f-ing EU and let men rule once more!
Despite all the things you are comment about euro 5 etc... Yep, it's true but I'm glad that Suzuki come back the DRZ and with a fine tunning I think will be a very enjoyable bike 👍🏼 🏍️
Wait a minute. I sold these in '09 and want to like it but 16lbs heavier, probably not much more power and still a 5 speed box. They already had a decent chassis and suspension so WTF guys.
@@sylvainlaurence1554 Hey man I sold them in '09. I respect Suzuki I had a 550ES when they came out. Shot Suzuki video here in Seattle. -- ruclips.net/video/vu9t9JmZh3Q/видео.html&t -- Why wouldn't I want 6 gears that is the question. Sure they could space out 4-5 for road work but in the end just redesign the damn gearbox. I'd take another gear instead of Titanium valves but that's just me.
@@sylvainlaurence1554 I have a converted to street legal “E” model. It desperately needs another gear. I know there are companies out there that make a wide ratio drop in gear set but it’s very expensive. Like said above, just redesign the damned gearbox! I’d happily pay a little more for it rather than having to bust it open and install aftermarket gears.
When I saw the warning at the beginning about professional riders, I expected a little bit more action. Take a page out of yamaha's book with the t7 and hire a world class rider. It seemed to work well for them.
Bad timing! Now KTM also announced the 390 smc r and the 390 adventure r. Also other manufacturers like Aprillia announced a 400 range tuono and the 400 cc market is filled with competition. They should have done this 5 years ago.
My '04 450exc was almost exactly half the price and half the miles & hours of my '04 DRZ when I upgraded 2 years ago... Double the maintenance is true, but I keep it preventative and I've had ZERO problems. Lighter, quicker, better suspension, and a 6th gear is more than worth the trade-off in my book, but I'm a 2-stroke guy so take that whichever way you want... I know Suzuki is capable of leading the dual sport sceen again and I would love to see that happen (DRZ-450🤞)
Sounds like those motor so called updates for to deal with extra heat from running extra lean therefore all emissions updates not really for our benefit.
they haven't done much. it's a 30 year old bike with new plastics, fuel injection and a screen. the 38hp of power is underwhelming coming out of a 400 these days. the triumph 400 makes 40hp lol. the ktm which is more comparable to the drz makes 45hp. weight is low which is good but the bike has a really high seat height, i doubt many people will want such a tall bike when there will be other options that are almost as capable off road, faster and more refined on the road and have reasonable seat height.
I’m betting a price over 10k. If they weren’t going to redo the gearbox they should have just added EFI and called it good for similar price. The traction control and ABS are just not needed on this bike.
Well it seam actually heavier not lighter. Only slightly more power where mine is modded and has 45hp to the ground on a dyno. Should have listened to us all. Not one, not even some guy who knows nothing has always said we want a 6 speed transmission. That should have been a no brainer. Or at minimum should have been made into a wide ratio transmission versus its current close ratio. And not made it even taller. Now it has the tallest seat if any dual sport available today. Crazy who these guys missed all the marks. The only thing they did right was make it EFI and a Full ABS off botton. Crazy, the biggest motorcycle company of all companies would miss this by that much. Wel i will just buy a new or low mileage engine when my 2011 finally stops running. 55,000 miles and no issues yet.
This revamp was moreso to be allowed to sell it in europe via euro 5 emissions, and other countries that require abs to be standard. Id assume keeping the 5 speed was to keep the case the same reducing costs, drzs are still manufactured in japan as opposed to competition in thailand/india (crf300/klx300/ktm390)
@@benjy288I remember the exhaust (rear Muffler) of the CRF250L which had the catalytic converter inside the muffler weighted about 6kg, I know because I had one and replaced it with an FMF which weighted exactly 3kg, yes these catalytic converters can be very heavy.
If only they would have just taken the RMZ 450 and stuck in a wide ratio gearbox with lighting😁🤔😮💨 I can still dream I guess, I might need to move somewhere I can plate and Insure a Yamaha WR450 🤔🤗
Gotta say I disagree about not having a tft dash. DRZs have always been simple bikes and I think having an actual screen on it would really clash with the character of the bike
Thanks for another good video. Looks promising, and I almost can't believe it happened finally lol. But it looks like they didn't mention anything about gearing, so that's a bit concerning. I'm guessing they kept the old five-speed
@@OnlyDamp How do you know you need a sixth gear, when you don't know the character of the engine nor the transmission gear ratios, nor the final drive gear ratio?
NO 6 speed NO sale! Click the thumbs up if you have been waiting for a transmission update and won't buy a DRZ strictly due to it still being hampered by the same 5 gears. Suzuki, why not give us what we want? You'll recoup your investment with sales volume for the next 20 years.
It is pretty simple. A six speed box would require basically a completely new engine, not the refurbished old engine. That would put the bike in a price range that would hurt sales. Hopefully they have spread the ratios enough that (with the broader powerband) it accomplishes nearly the same thing. The fuel injection is nice but I would have liked the option of paying for or not paying for the ABS and traction controls. Those alone are going to add a grand to the cost and for me would be a pass. I’m looking to see the new bikes cost over 10K. The upside is the left over ‘24 DRZs may get discounted and that is how they’ll get my money.
if yall want more power and gears go get a 450RL and F off. its the first year with the fuel injection, which EVERYONE has been complaining about. take it for what it is and keep your eye out for the next couple years once they improve. true drz riders like the bike for what it is! perfect power and weight ratio while being a tank. im glad they didnt lose sight of their original body/engine designs.
I half agree with you and I guess it's okay if the price stays the same, and we can get a little extra power out of the new FI system without new issues... I did like it for being a simple/ cheap/ reliable bike (10 years ago) and I will keep my eye on it, but I just can't F off and act excited for little more than new emissions management. I definitely won't be buying or recommending the new DRZ any time soon. Go ahead and roast me but I moved on from a '04 DRZ to a '04 450-EXC and that's what I would recommend for a cheap bike (I paid about half of what I bought and sold the DRZ for and it had about half the miles and hours). 450RL is noticeably heavier and pricier... Sure old EXCs might not have the stellar reliability track record or the huge parts availability, but mine hasn't yet skipped a beat and it performs better in every way hands down and I already feel like I got my $$$ out of it if it blows up tomorrow (not too shabby for the price of a few common mods). I guess that's my long way of saying (as a long time DRZ fan) "now that the DRZ finally has some competition I can't help wanting to see Suzuki go toe to toe, or outright crushing it."
@@chrro466 The argument for a 6th gear is about street capability, and almost nobody can ride a bike to its full capacity. The 3x3 mod is popular for a reason. Let's not pretend the DRZ is like a 'Busa with more power than the average rider can put down, because it clearly is not.
Gearbox - 5 speed, meh! Power down, meh! Weight up, meh! Suzuki missed a big opportunity to smash it out of the park here. LED lighting, ride by wire modes and 3 levels of TC, and switchable ABS are all good. I hope they made it wide ratio 5 speed at least, they should have done a 6 speed 🤦♂️
Dimensionally its near identical to the current model, i think they kept the engine case the same to stay competitive on pricing. They likely changed gearing ratios as the website claims 80 mpg.
Its all good guys, looks like they put a wide ratio transmission in it. Secondary gear changes in the gearbox and also it gets a claimed 67mpg. No way it gets that fuel economy with the narrow gears. Only problem with this bike is it gained 10lbs when it should have lost 10. But cant win them all. Ill take it.
you might be happy, but this bike will kill the drz400e we've had in australia since 2000 which is 14kg lighter and has 10hp 4 lb/ft more than the drz4s. at least i already have 2020 drz400e cape york edition i'll be keeping it.
@@benjy288 drz400E is 48hp 40nm at the crank and that's how the drz4s hp specs are given at the crank not the wheel, as with every other bike. the E model typically makes 39-41hp at the wheel stock and 46hp at the wheel with a full exhaust like staintune or yoshi.
I like the look, but as long as they keep putting on all the electronic junk (ABS, various traction control, phone screen for a dash), I'll just keep my trusty DRZ 400.
bikes take many years to develop - CF 450 was shown 12 months ago, nobody moves that fast - suzuki already had this planned, same as ktm with the 390r and enduro 390r - they are not a response, they are what they are - CF just came 1st
@@ogasi1798 you think they would intentionaly cannibalise their flagships (in this case Vstrom 800, and adv 390 was a street bike) before CF moto swooped in? I know that all the big companies had this kind of bike in the drawer, but nobody made them make a move, that is, up until now. Wonder if Honda will finally make the 450 Dual Sport (dialed down version of the crf 450), or Yamaha make some mini tenere.
@veljko866 it's not about cannibalism of their line up, it's spreading risk and diversifying income, their biggest ticket items are dying slowly - superbikes, income needs to be found thus the medium 450 sector gets a target, now imagine they drop their dr65o In 12 - 18 months.... They still build it for the states but in carb form, a modern update like for the rest of us this will sell tens of thousands globally, easy decision really Regarding ktm and cf, both parties knew of each others small adv I have no doubt, it's just that cf got there 1st Be nice to see Honda do a proper 450 dual sport, based on good service mileage engine eh 👍 but Honda are weird so who knows...
@@coffelt683 wow u so smart 'lol'. Can you share the servce interval and price for that bike, and region availability. Also, I did say a dialed down version of CRF 450 (L/RL in this case)
@@machupikachu1085 I understand your view, but please please understand products made after the pandemic suck quality has gone down across the board . And I’ll bet the drz will also suffer from some type of deeper problem.
@@PegahSye That is a good point, but the Dr.Z is still being manufactured in Japan by the same guys that have made them for over 25 years. So, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Looking forward to get one and remove all the electronics to save weight and improve safety, ofcause get rid of the original exhaust and get it re-tuned. I hate that they have to do drive by wire, but i will remove it completly
Still a 5 speed gearbox? No, this isn’t an answer to the prayers of DRZ400 riders. Also, LCD is better than color TFT, especially for the S. Visibility and durability matters more than flashiness on a dual sport.
Amazing news! Been waiting for something like this for a long time...
Heavily choked by emission rules. Curious what they do after a pipe/intake and dyno tune...
@@J2I3H gotta be late 40s. But don't tell these simps that. Let them see the 38 stock bhp as gospel. Less chance of them selling out for the rest of us 😎
@Brad.Atv. haha true that, 40 whp would be nice. Lithium battery and different exhaust will get the weight close to the og drz. I'll keep trashing my trusty old tt600re sm (also 50hp 150 kg wet). Nothing beats old school simple air cooled thumpers
That would be the win. Be cool to gain 5 maybe 10 hp off just a tune. And the bike will run perfect. I think, since they already have 3 modes to ride with you can def upload a new map and open it up
EFI means it will be choked for emissions, that’s unavoidable on anything street legal, but an ECU flash or swap is generally good for a lot and the aftermarket is usually pretty quick to offer a solution there.
They increased the Torque tho
Since the very first DRZ400 was sold over 20 years ago, owners have asked suzuki to fix one thing. The gearbox ! 20 years, and they couldn't fix the one thing it needed. 38hp and riding modes 😂, no 6 speed😂,traction😂.
Might need another 20 years if Suzuki is still around
EFI is definitely nice (but frankly, I never had problems with carbs). No increase to 6 speed (STILL a 5 speed) which was a frequent request by many users/potential users and HP and Torque (and their peak value rpms) basically the same values as the old model, yet the bike appears to be 15lbs/7kg HEAVIER than the older bike. The only reason I'm waiting for this to come out is so that the price drops on the used DRZ400s that are likely to have similar performance, but less complexity (do I really need different modes on a 38hp motor???) and importantly less weight. I'm sure if I rode it I'd feel differently and I'd be shocked if it wasn't a good bike but based on what I see so far why, but why is this particularly interesting or even news? It appears to be a mild refresh at best, (bringing it into the 2020s and current emissions rules), and is candidly a bit disappointing at least from my perspective. (The S now appears to have inverted forks so that's something (arguably more aesthetic for most riders than anything) I suppose)
I suspect this is going to be a fun bike, but at least for me I'm hoping it means used DRZ400s at a lower price :)
Yes, society nowdays is a joke
@@the.communist LOL im screenshotting this xD the level of irony captured between your name and comment. the Projection is real ahh so satisfying. I bet you are really blown the country chose classical liberalism over your authoritarianism arent you xD I think I just came.. There is no difference between the ideology in your name and the one that starts with an F. Both involved central control over means of production either through waivers or direct government control. both regulate speech. both believe in wrong-think and engage in creating a sociological "other" they rally society against... lol what a joke. Im putting you on a t-shirt and turning you into a meme. Thanks for this :D
That’s pretty cool and an answered wish of many riders. I’ve been wanting a lighter dual sport to add an alternative to my ADV bike. I was a big fan of my old VSTROM and have always wanted another Suzuki. I’ll be keeping an eye out for this one. Well done!
WOW! This is awesome! The internet has been speculating about a new DRZ after US Patent documents were discovered back in September. I told me dealer I wanted to get on the waiting list. They said "we haven't heard anything about a new DRZ - Suzuki hasn't change it in forever, and likely won't". I said "I still want on the waiting list if a new one comes!"
I'm going to stop in there today and talk to them more about it.
They better put you before whoever made it there first or you'll find a new dealer
@@worstteammate4377 They called me when they opened for business and I did a deposit over the phone.
I had one sm version and I missed a 6th gear...still 5 gears I see why???????
a big mistake noone can understand... why no six gear!!!
@@xau I had a DRZ sm and with a 6th gear it would have been way better. Possibly to save money they just put a tallish 5th gear for commute duties and call it a day..
Bit heavy but should hopefully have a good aftermarket. 5 speed isn't ideal but it can save money and weight, just needs good gear ratios. Should be a popular bike, hopefully it could lead to higher displacement CRF/KLX.
I'm still hoping Suzuki will drop a DRZ-450, but yeah competition is still very much needed in this segment.
Amazing news! This should be the perfect TET machine! Bravo Suzuki!
Takes me back to my 20’s can’t wait to see if it’s on show at motorcycle live.
Waiting for the DR 650 SE ...
imagine if they do it the bas7ards 🙂 i mean why not? the only place that still sells the DR new is the states - huge sales being given to competition , gimme a 650
I'm sure it'll also be a 5 speed and 30 lbs heavier with some awesome throttle modes so you don't hurt yourself
Oh no don’t say that 😂 fuel injected 6 speed aluminum frame would be just fine
Still 5 gears only???
Just great 🎉 Waiting for a bike like this for many years. Perfect balance of power and handling i guess. Good for sharp corners.
Also the maintenance is really important
Knocked it out of the park in the looks department.
Wow - almost 30 (THIRTY!) years of development has led to a bike that has an amazing 3½ hp more and +26(!!) kg more weight than my XR400R from the Stone Age! That's REALLY impressive.............................
XR400 is the best.
i own a small cc KLX150L.... and its ok and all but the handlebars vibrate it makes my hands quickly go numb. its the only thing i probably hate about it. Will a bigger cc - but single cylinder variant like this still vibrate as much?
Suzuki has always kept fun in the price range for the working class.
Absolutely
Not nowdays
@@the.communist Leave communism. you may find they still do.
In what world is 38 hp fun.. Maybe if the bike weighed half as much
@@ryanlee6291 My son's Ninja 300 has 39.95 hp It can do 130. It is not the bike but the rider's use of it.
All this time and it's a mild Re-Hash......keep riding my 90 DR-350!
You had one job Suzuki One job! 5-speed gearbox is what everybody has complained about this bike for decades, literally. How you could so thoroughly revise this motorcycle and not start with a six-speed box is just dumbfounding.
It won't fit.
Should have used a RMZ 450 with Lighting and Wide Ratio 6 speed gearbox maybe in 10-20 more years if Suzuki is still around, ok back to sleep and dreaming again
Definitely missed the mark on that one.
“Thoroughly revised” 😂 you must literally have a room temperature iq dude, they changed nothing but the price and you dummies are stoked
What's a 6th gear gonna do for you? You really want highway performance. Get a T7. The bike for you already exists.
i cant unhear your seat reference.
Hahaaa!
My last bike was a DRZ converted to a SM, was stolen in 2011 and haven't ridden since.
Might need to get me one.
Damn bro. That's 14 years... What the hell have you been doing if you haven't been riding??? Lol
Go bck not new .
What about transmission? Still 5 speed narrow ratio?
where is the rally version?
It's a bike for wide public and good quality, i think it will success 🎉🎉❤
Pls do a RR version
More evidence that euro 5 regulations are making bikes worse, the new bike is down about 1hp and 1nm of torque compared to the old bike, plus its gained about 7kg of weight, and no we don't need rider modes and traction control on a bike with 40hp, and I assume it will be more expensive than the older model too, I would take the old bike hands down.
Exactly new bikes are crap ,gimme a carb anyday
With such a small front light, id definitely get auxiliary lights for visibility on the road
love it!!! Thank you Suzuki
Oh yeah really dumb dumb you love paying 40% more the exact same bike? You fucks ruined it crying about nonexistent problems
5 speeds, five damn speeds, i hope they at least readjuted and made act wide gear ratio gearbox from factory. holy fck 5 speeds is the main drawback from old drz, if there wasn't act gearbox i'd sold my drz
You really only need a 6 speed for a bike lacking torque. As long as they corrected the terrible close ratio I have no issue without having a 6th gear.
@@TommyNitro for me gearbox is the main problem of drz, hope they changed ratio or it will be a fail.
@@TommyNitro No, for a dual sport 6-speed is mandatory these days. You can't have have good on-off road gear ratios without a 6th gear overdrive.
@@TommyNitroAssume the same ratios since it wasn’t mentioned in the new features. Complete miss not adding a 6-spd.
@@kaptainkyle70 I'm afraid you may be right. My biggest beef was the transmission. Not a deal killer for me. But I'd just as soon have the old model if the transmission is the same.
Radial mounted caliper on the SM?
SM perfect
I think they really missed a few key mods. Ive owned a 2006 Drz400 and overall had very few complaints. I'm really bummed about no 6 speed. They could have given this bike both legit off road gearing and an overdrive. That would have been Christmas early. Also, maybe a stretch, but cruise control would have been slick as well. Otherwise, i think most of the updates are pretty good.
Aftermarket cruise will plug into the new ride by wire.
Very excited about this bike. An excellent overview of what we have to look forward to.
I like the new headlight shroud
Man I’m in uk trying to find a mk one drzsm,
With a full exhaust & intake mods with a dyno tune i bet it makes better power than the carb version.
At what minute did he say 5 speed? I missed that.
It’s on Suzuki’s website.
@@hokoganCorrect. Also assume it’s the same close ratios since there’s no mention of any improvements in the highlights.
Fantastic...cheers
One thing I just don't understand is how in this era of space age materials and technology and engineering advancement, motorcycles still manage to keep getting heavier.
Exactly, some will blame it on regulations, but I still don't think it adds up, the new bike weighs about 7kg more, ABS might add 2kg at most, so that would mean the new euro 5 full exhaust would weigh 5kg more than the full exhaust on the old model, which already weighed 5kg, and I don't buy it that a full euro 5 exhaust for the drz would weigh 10kg, plus the new model has a slightly smaller tank, so where's the extra weight coming from?
Modern exhaust systems can be shockingly heavy.
@@benjy288yes unfortunately it's because the European regulations, they cannot have a certain power to weight ratio because bureaucrats decided what you need and what you don't.
@@ripmax333 Are you talking about the A2 licence? If so the old drz was A2 licence compliant
What happen to the 6 spd the 5 spd big let down
Seat height?
I hope this is real for the USA. And I hope the DR650 gets a nice refresh.
Lets hope they lighten it with a kickstarter. Modernising in these backwards times means castrating with euro 5 or worse.
Lets end the f-ing EU and let men rule once more!
I just recently moved to Austria. Any advice on what supermoto options there are in the new and used market that are around 7,000 EUR?
This is amazing
No price update?
Despite all the things you are comment about euro 5 etc... Yep, it's true but I'm glad that Suzuki come back the DRZ and with a fine tunning I think will be a very enjoyable bike 👍🏼 🏍️
Свеча зажигания з боку💪👍👍👍👍
The rumor about the price (almost 9000 euros), if becoming true, will kill the bike directly.
Wait a minute. I sold these in '09 and want to like it but 16lbs heavier, probably not much more power and still a 5 speed box. They already had a decent chassis and suspension so WTF guys.
exactly what I was thinking. Heavier and no mention of an upgraded trans? Big fail IMHO
And tell me why you want 6 speed??? Find your own set up by playing with sprocket, you’ll forget the 6….25 years old bike deserves a little respect…
@@sylvainlaurence1554 Hey man I sold them in '09. I respect Suzuki I had a 550ES when they came out. Shot Suzuki video here in Seattle. -- ruclips.net/video/vu9t9JmZh3Q/видео.html&t -- Why wouldn't I want 6 gears that is the question. Sure they could space out 4-5 for road work but in the end just redesign the damn gearbox. I'd take another gear instead of Titanium valves but that's just me.
@@sylvainlaurence1554 I have a converted to street legal “E” model. It desperately needs another gear. I know there are companies out there that make a wide ratio drop in gear set but it’s very expensive. Like said above, just redesign the damned gearbox! I’d happily pay a little more for it rather than having to bust it open and install aftermarket gears.
@@tomwolf125 It's just the silliest thing. What market research did they actually conduct here and what was their rationale to stay with 5?
When I saw the warning at the beginning about professional riders, I expected a little bit more action. Take a page out of yamaha's book with the t7 and hire a world class rider. It seemed to work well for them.
6th gear?
Was hoping for a little more power around 60hp woud be njce and fum to ride
Will this hit the uk markets
@@darseyno1520 it will hit all
Bad timing! Now KTM also announced the 390 smc r and the 390 adventure r. Also other manufacturers like Aprillia announced a 400 range tuono and the 400 cc market is filled with competition. They should have done this 5 years ago.
Ktms are double the price and double the maintenance
But double the fun
My '04 450exc was almost exactly half the price and half the miles & hours of my '04 DRZ when I upgraded 2 years ago... Double the maintenance is true, but I keep it preventative and I've had ZERO problems. Lighter, quicker, better suspension, and a 6th gear is more than worth the trade-off in my book, but I'm a 2-stroke guy so take that whichever way you want...
I know Suzuki is capable of leading the dual sport sceen again and I would love to see that happen (DRZ-450🤞)
@@Wooskii1 I own a Ktm 350excf use it as a light dual sport , I am nearly 50 but feel like a teenager again riding it .
@@8limp182 if you consider wrenching fun, then yes! Double the fun!
Sounds like those motor so called updates for to deal with extra heat from running extra lean therefore all emissions updates not really for our benefit.
they haven't done much. it's a 30 year old bike with new plastics, fuel injection and a screen. the 38hp of power is underwhelming coming out of a 400 these days. the triumph 400 makes 40hp lol. the ktm which is more comparable to the drz makes 45hp. weight is low which is good but the bike has a really high seat height, i doubt many people will want such a tall bike when there will be other options that are almost as capable off road, faster and more refined on the road and have reasonable seat height.
These are dual sports and supermotos, completely different than what Triumph offers. 38 hp will be modded to around 42/43 which is perfect.
Had enough after 2nd ad before 3rd min. # boycott advertiser's
this is going to be my first bike! depends on the price of course.
This is so exciting !! I really want one .
6 gear ?
Seems a bit dumbed down in terms of weight and power compared to the 24 year old DRZ400E, for example. My semi has gone…
biggest question of all do we finally get 6 speed tranny?
I Guess I'm Showing My Age Because I Like The Older Ones That Are Carbureted. Thank You. (Like #690 - Comment #181)
What do you like about carburators comparef to EFI?
Me too .trying to get a hold of one now in uk ,not easy
@@sspirito3130you can fix them yourself .
@@Crosshatch1212 true, I can fix them myself, and I had to fix many carburators, but I never had to fix EFI. Never
And CRF for 2025 is still low powered 300...Cmon, Honda...
RM-Z update next year?
@@jpesicka492 bold new graphics
5 marce?
I’m betting a price over 10k. If they weren’t going to redo the gearbox they should have just added EFI and called it good for similar price. The traction control and ABS are just not needed on this bike.
Well it seam actually heavier not lighter. Only slightly more power where mine is modded and has 45hp to the ground on a dyno. Should have listened to us all. Not one, not even some guy who knows nothing has always said we want a 6 speed transmission. That should have been a no brainer. Or at minimum should have been made into a wide ratio transmission versus its current close ratio. And not made it even taller. Now it has the tallest seat if any dual sport available today. Crazy who these guys missed all the marks. The only thing they did right was make it EFI and a Full ABS off botton. Crazy, the biggest motorcycle company of all companies would miss this by that much. Wel i will just buy a new or low mileage engine when my 2011 finally stops running. 55,000 miles and no issues yet.
Heavier because they have to put a massive cat on it 😂😂😂
This revamp was moreso to be allowed to sell it in europe via euro 5 emissions, and other countries that require abs to be standard. Id assume keeping the 5 speed was to keep the case the same reducing costs, drzs are still manufactured in japan as opposed to competition in thailand/india (crf300/klx300/ktm390)
@@Brad.Atv. Exactly, which will be removed as fast as the sales tag 👌
@@Brad.Atv. That's a damn heavy cat at 7kg
@@benjy288I remember the exhaust (rear Muffler) of the CRF250L which had the catalytic converter inside the muffler weighted about 6kg, I know because I had one and replaced it with an FMF which weighted exactly 3kg, yes these catalytic converters can be very heavy.
6 speed gearbox???
Nada 😢
@@kaptainkyle70 It is not known yet??? Or has a 5-speed box already been confirmed?
Now do the DR650.
Is it 6 speed?
People in the comments above say no. We will see.
@terrarecon i checked the suzuki website. It's still 5 speed
@@poorsoutdoors3595 Dang it you are right. I stand corrected. I didn't know they already put the new model on the website yet.
@@terrarecon 😭
Still only a 5 speed transmission??☹☹
As a Drz400sm owner suzuki did not listen to us no 6 speed not a bigger gas tank , no sight gas for oil .no tubeless and new bike is heavier
If only they would have just taken the RMZ 450 and stuck in a wide ratio gearbox with lighting😁🤔😮💨 I can still dream I guess, I might need to move somewhere I can plate and Insure a Yamaha WR450 🤔🤗
Good looking Suzukis
TAKE MY MONEY!!
where is it built? 25 years later there a few contenders in that range, too little too late
Pretty sure it is built in Japan. That's a plus.
Gotta say I disagree about not having a tft dash. DRZs have always been simple bikes and I think having an actual screen on it would really clash with the character of the bike
Fantastic bikes. All depends on price.
Lets hope Yamaha will bring WR250R/X from the grave! :P
Yamaha seems to be ignoring this part of the market
Any chance this is coming to India 🙏🏻
still doesnt have a 6 speed in it for the highway...... meanwhile the honda crf300l AND the kawaski klx300 have 6 speeds...
The SuperMoto looks nice but I don't get it not having a sixth gear. I wish Triumph would put their new Speed 400 engine in a Supermoto.
Thanks for another good video. Looks promising, and I almost can't believe it happened finally lol. But it looks like they didn't mention anything about gearing, so that's a bit concerning. I'm guessing they kept the old five-speed
The only thing they really messed up is not putting a 6th gear...
What is your argument?
@@impalaSS65 what do you mean?
@@OnlyDamp How do you know you need a sixth gear, when you don't know the character of the engine nor the transmission gear ratios, nor the final drive gear ratio?
Geil Suzuki !
NO 6 speed NO sale!
Click the thumbs up if you have been waiting for a transmission update and won't buy a DRZ strictly due to it still being hampered by the same 5 gears.
Suzuki, why not give us what we want? You'll recoup your investment with sales volume for the next 20 years.
It is pretty simple. A six speed box would require basically a completely new engine, not the refurbished old engine. That would put the bike in a price range that would hurt sales. Hopefully they have spread the ratios enough that (with the broader powerband) it accomplishes nearly the same thing. The fuel injection is nice but I would have liked the option of paying for or not paying for the ABS and traction controls. Those alone are going to add a grand to the cost and for me would be a pass. I’m looking to see the new bikes cost over 10K. The upside is the left over ‘24 DRZs may get discounted and that is how they’ll get my money.
if yall want more power and gears go get a 450RL and F off. its the first year with the fuel injection, which EVERYONE has been complaining about. take it for what it is and keep your eye out for the next couple years once they improve. true drz riders like the bike for what it is! perfect power and weight ratio while being a tank. im glad they didnt lose sight of their original body/engine designs.
I half agree with you and I guess it's okay if the price stays the same, and we can get a little extra power out of the new FI system without new issues...
I did like it for being a simple/ cheap/ reliable bike (10 years ago) and I will keep my eye on it, but I just can't F off and act excited for little more than new emissions management. I definitely won't be buying or recommending the new DRZ any time soon. Go ahead and roast me but I moved on from a '04 DRZ to a '04 450-EXC and that's what I would recommend for a cheap bike (I paid about half of what I bought and sold the DRZ for and it had about half the miles and hours). 450RL is noticeably heavier and pricier...
Sure old EXCs might not have the stellar reliability track record or the huge parts availability, but mine hasn't yet skipped a beat and it performs better in every way hands down and I already feel like I got my $$$ out of it if it blows up tomorrow (not too shabby for the price of a few common mods).
I guess that's my long way of saying (as a long time DRZ fan) "now that the DRZ finally has some competition I can't help wanting to see Suzuki go toe to toe, or outright crushing it."
@@chrro466 The argument for a 6th gear is about street capability, and almost nobody can ride a bike to its full capacity. The 3x3 mod is popular for a reason.
Let's not pretend the DRZ is like a 'Busa with more power than the average rider can put down, because it clearly is not.
Thanks Jesus how fast can they increase displacemet to 650?
Gearbox - 5 speed, meh! Power down, meh! Weight up, meh! Suzuki missed a big opportunity to smash it out of the park here. LED lighting, ride by wire modes and 3 levels of TC, and switchable ABS are all good. I hope they made it wide ratio 5 speed at least, they should have done a 6 speed 🤦♂️
Definitely...5 speed is disappointing...what the heck were they thinking?
Dimensionally its near identical to the current model, i think they kept the engine case the same to stay competitive on pricing. They likely changed gearing ratios as the website claims 80 mpg.
What are you saying? 38 hp can you count?
So you keep your bike stock??? 😂😂😂
Its all good guys, looks like they put a wide ratio transmission in it. Secondary gear changes in the gearbox and also it gets a claimed 67mpg. No way it gets that fuel economy with the narrow gears. Only problem with this bike is it gained 10lbs when it should have lost 10. But cant win them all. Ill take it.
you might be happy, but this bike will kill the drz400e we've had in australia since 2000 which is 14kg lighter and has 10hp 4 lb/ft more than the drz4s.
at least i already have 2020 drz400e cape york edition i'll be keeping it.
We'll all be dead long before all the DRZ400e's on the market are scrapped. Anybody who wants an old 400e won't have any trouble getting one.
That is just cause it is corked. Wait until the modders get their hands on it. A simple exhaust, air filter, and ECU flash will open this thing up.
@2WheelPursuit yeah I've already said that elsewhere and I don't disagree but it has to go from 39hp to 48hp just to equal the e model.
@@6226superhurricane No way does the 400e make 48hp, more like 40hp
@@benjy288 drz400E is 48hp 40nm at the crank and that's how the drz4s hp specs are given at the crank not the wheel, as with every other bike.
the E model typically makes 39-41hp at the wheel stock and 46hp at the wheel with a full exhaust like staintune or yoshi.
I like the look, but as long as they keep putting on all the electronic junk (ABS, various traction control, phone screen for a dash), I'll just keep my trusty DRZ 400.
🎉👏🏻👌🏻👍
We have to thank CF Moto and Royal Enfield for this.
bikes take many years to develop - CF 450 was shown 12 months ago, nobody moves that fast - suzuki already had this planned, same as ktm with the 390r and enduro 390r - they are not a response, they are what they are - CF just came 1st
@@ogasi1798 you think they would intentionaly cannibalise their flagships (in this case Vstrom 800, and adv 390 was a street bike) before CF moto swooped in? I know that all the big companies had this kind of bike in the drawer, but nobody made them make a move, that is, up until now. Wonder if Honda will finally make the 450 Dual Sport (dialed down version of the crf 450), or Yamaha make some mini tenere.
@veljko866 it's not about cannibalism of their line up, it's spreading risk and diversifying income, their biggest ticket items are dying slowly - superbikes, income needs to be found thus the medium 450 sector gets a target, now imagine they drop their dr65o In 12 - 18 months.... They still build it for the states but in carb form, a modern update like for the rest of us this will sell tens of thousands globally, easy decision really
Regarding ktm and cf, both parties knew of each others small adv I have no doubt, it's just that cf got there 1st
Be nice to see Honda do a proper 450 dual sport, based on good service mileage engine eh 👍 but Honda are weird so who knows...
@@veljko866 Honda already has the crf450Rl lol
@@coffelt683 wow u so smart 'lol'. Can you share the servce interval and price for that bike, and region availability. Also, I did say a dialed down version of CRF 450 (L/RL in this case)
All they need to do is bump up the power so a regular size man can highway ride without redlining.
“Seat is like a real thong that pulls right in” 😂 Yeah……nah!
One word "underwhelming"
If only the fuel tank was larger
If it cost more then 10k it won’t be worth it , I’ll just go with 701sm
and have the KTM hand grenade before 30 000 miles?
@@machupikachu1085 I understand your view, but please please understand products made after the pandemic suck quality has gone down across the board . And I’ll bet the drz will also suffer from some type of deeper problem.
@@PegahSye That is a good point, but the Dr.Z is still being manufactured in Japan by the same guys that have made them for over 25 years. So, I'm cautiously optimistic.
3ft Seat height! 😅
Dissapointing honestly. Was expecting so much more for a successor to such a legendary bike.
Looking forward to get one and remove all the electronics to save weight and improve safety, ofcause get rid of the original exhaust and get it re-tuned.
I hate that they have to do drive by wire, but i will remove it completly
Still a 5 speed gearbox? No, this isn’t an answer to the prayers of DRZ400 riders. Also, LCD is better than color TFT, especially for the S. Visibility and durability matters more than flashiness on a dual sport.