I've got a Benchmade Lerch in S30V. Never used, carried or sharpened. The sandblasted scales still managed to get snail trails everywhere! Ti slabs with assisted opening. If you're interested, answer this comment. I'm looking for a Minitherium in Damasteel and could shed this eagerly! 👍 😃
American made steel, baby... Great video, brother. Love my custom Benchmade knife and you're absolutely right. This steel greatly affected the price of my knife.
Grabbed a manix 2 with this steel . I ve been using S35VN and 14 c and it seems to do well . Some d2 does , some doesn’t but those two I can tell a difference
Great video with plenty of information. I just picked up a Zero Tolerance 0350 with the S30V steel. It was suggested to me for the type of work I needed to do. Thanks for making this vid. It was exactly what I was wanting to learn
Whoa ! I did t even know that carbon fiber handle with the red pivot even existed ! Very nice . I love that blade style on a microtech doc and now spiderco has one similar . See how in the dark I am ? I could use some friends in the knife community for good advice . Thanks so much anyone who can help 😊
I don't usually comment of videos, but this video was very well made and contained solid knowledge. Thanks for the information! Just bought myself a s30v buck ergohunter folder limited edition
I have a 5 year old Blur, slight lateral blade play and quite a bit of wear but still quickly takes an edge like nobody's business. Even with a bunch of Spydies, Benchmade, Cold Steel, Bucks etc my Kershaw is still my daily driver.
Just got a benchmade in that steel. Wow, sharpest blade of my collection so far. Better than my 440c, 154 cm, titanium, 9Cr19MoV, D2, 14C28N. It's not that I think other steels don't work. But the fine grain makes the edge able to cut through toilet paper 😅
Blade steel does not determine sharpness. The sharpening does. In my experience and most peoples experience is that fine grained stainless steels like BD1Nand 14C28N or carbon steels are easier to get hair shaving sharp than carbide rich steels that lose shaving sharp quickly but hold a toothy edge long past basic steel have gone dull.
Do you have any S90V steel knives? If not, Heinnie has a very good priced Manly Wasp for around £55 and it is a UK legal knife with S90V. Yes you can read the price again. I would love to see a review on it from you.
Have you tried the Orion solaris yet ? I wish I had told them to put the raindrop scales on before shipping tbh . I like it a lot . I also like the titanium kubeys and WE 600 series knives and a few two suns 😂and microtech s is about it . Sometimes I ll like to flip a 9 oz eafengrow 902:titanium . It’s just awesome 👏
I bought a used car once and found this knife on the center console. I looked at it and thought "This is a really good knife!". carried it on my car for about 2 years and only did about 2 or 3 odd jobs with it. ended up selling the car a few months back and made sure to take the knife with me. then I started looking for it online to see how much it sells for and HOLY CRAP didn't think a pocket knife could cost almost 200 dollars. ended up trying to figure out why this was so and it turns out its this steel (CPM-S30V) that the blade is made from and that's what makes it so darn expensive. needless to say I'll be taking better care of it from now on
I sharpened a zt 0456 with the 204P and it got real real sharp with a mirror edge but I’m not sure of these mirror edges will hold up . I was told to stay between 600-800 . Is there certain steels that do better with certain finishes on the edge ? Getting technical lately .
I was looking through your videos that you made and didn't find any that had "S110V" in the title. What do you think of the S110V steel, and how do you think it compares to S30V?
I think VG-10 is better than S30V, my PM2 chipped multiple times breaking down cardboard and carving wood, my Endura has neer chipped once doing the same tasks.
Nolan Carpenter Thanks Nolan. Nice to hear from you again. I think CTS-XHP posses the corrosion resistance of 440C but the hardness (64 HRC) of D2 tool steel. It's a stainless steel version of D2. CTS-XHP slightly outperforms S30V on edge retention. Smoke eater has a a great video here: ruclips.net/video/SdoNBtc6tmI/видео.html Hope that helps.
Thanks a lot. Had to ask because I've heard some conflicting reports. Anyway, I'm glad you're making these steel videos because they're very informative. Cheers.
I know this is a old video, but I just ordered a Spyderco Military in S30V. My question is do I need to use a diamond stone, & cermaic for sharpening or will I be able to still reasonably use my Japanese water stones?
you can use whatever you like. With traditional Japanese water stones, you’ll wear them down faster, but you will get an edge on them. Diamond stones work much faster. I use both.
Hello, I veso you have experience with both the N690Co steel than with M390, it is much the difference of the wire seal between these two steels? and the ease of re-sharpening? Have you noticed differences in practical application between N690Co and M390? Which do you recommend for a knife survival / bushcraft compact in size (10/12 cm blade)? Thanks Michele.
Nice vid, and well explained. I wonder how long it will be before a new set of wonder steels will arrive ( the speed things move at nowadays, not long probably ) ? That's one of the exciting things about knives - they continually improve. Of course, then there'll be 14 year old "experts" saying " S30V ? I couldn't possibly carry a knife made with that crappy old steel ! " lol.
zednotzee7 Haha yeah I agree. I guess the knife industry is doing well. As technology improves it should improve all aspects of knife making from design to elements used and so on. I think it's similar to motorbikes. Sales are up by 12% from last year which is driving (pardon the pun) technology behind them. I just wished they would speed up their tech a little to catch up with cars before it's too late.
Nice video. Whenever I shop for a real nice knife that I’m going to put through it’s paces I never and never will purchase a knife that has a giant round hole in the blade. Why jeopardize the strength of a blade in such a critical part of the blade by putting a hole in it. Spyderco is made for collection or opening mail which I can just open with my hands. Definitely not hard use.
Zach Turner Og I thought you would have drawn the obvious conclusion that these folding knives not meant for ‘hard use’ whatever that means to you. They are more than cable for most if not all ‘cutting’ tasks. They have locks but SHOULD NOT be used like a fixed blade. Such as hitting the spine with a log to split a log, prying open a locked door, using as a climbing assist, splitting pallets or cutting open a car. Therefore the spydie-hole opening feature, which has been present on their knives since the 80s, is appropriately utilised on all of their folding knives. If you are using one of these knives where the blade breaks you have been using it wrong.
Sup3rSaiy3n a hole is appropriate? How so? Yes a hard use knife for me is a fixed blade. Esee generally and I never beat on a knife. I use tomahawks for the use they were designed for. The hole in the blade does three things. Weaken the blade, makes it wider in the pocket when folded(unnecessary space taking), and is as useless as a Nike check mark. It’s there trademark and is a terrible idea. The mail openers can keep at it but the knife experts don’t have one or have rid thereselves of it.
Spyderco in my opinion is overpriced. You're just paying for the brand and buying into the hype. I will say that out of the box they're razor sharp, but this can be achieved with any blade. I have a Native and i do love it, but i also have a Gerber that is S30V that is identical in sharpness (once i sharpened it) and a fraction of the price. And i do know Gerber is another bandwagon buy, but buying a S30V blade for $30.00 instead of $150.00 is going to win me over. Same statement goes for Benchmade Knives, amazing knives. But you're breaking the bank for their name.
This is the most informative video I've come across on S30V steel!! Exactly what I was looking for. I'll be looking at more of your videos 👍
He just read the Wikipedia on S30V. Pretty much word for word lol.
I've got a Benchmade Lerch in S30V. Never used, carried or sharpened. The sandblasted scales still managed to get snail trails everywhere! Ti slabs with assisted opening. If you're interested, answer this comment. I'm looking for a Minitherium in Damasteel and could shed this eagerly! 👍 😃
I'm loving your blade steel videos, good stuff
And I love birdshot IV
American made steel, baby... Great video, brother. Love my custom Benchmade knife and you're absolutely right. This steel greatly affected the price of my knife.
Grabbed a manix 2 with this steel . I ve been using S35VN and 14 c and it seems to do well . Some d2 does , some doesn’t but those two I can tell a difference
ur very informative! u helped me out and answered all my questions. you stood on track didnt ramble exact & to the point thank you
Great video with plenty of information. I just picked up a Zero Tolerance 0350 with the S30V steel. It was suggested to me for the type of work I needed to do. Thanks for making this vid. It was exactly what I was wanting to learn
Stephen Fowler what kind of work do you need to do and how has it held up? i recently got the same knife in a trade
Very good job on this one mate.
Whoa ! I did t even know that carbon fiber handle with the red pivot even existed ! Very nice . I love that blade style on a microtech doc and now spiderco has one similar . See how in the dark I am ? I could use some friends in the knife community for good advice . Thanks so much anyone who can help 😊
Crucible particle metallurgy CPM . So it makes the elements all line up and bond without the use of alloys ? That sounds amazing .
I don't usually comment of videos, but this video was very well made and contained solid knowledge. Thanks for the information! Just bought myself a s30v buck ergohunter folder limited edition
Thanks for commenting Joe. Glad the information helped.
great! loved this video thanks for taking the time.
greetz from Holland
I just grabbed a Kershaw blur in s30v for 65$ to replace my 5 year old standard blur great video bro
I have a 5 year old Blur, slight lateral blade play and quite a bit of wear but still quickly takes an edge like nobody's business. Even with a bunch of Spydies, Benchmade, Cold Steel, Bucks etc my Kershaw is still my daily driver.
Just got a benchmade in that steel.
Wow, sharpest blade of my collection so far. Better than my 440c, 154 cm, titanium, 9Cr19MoV, D2, 14C28N.
It's not that I think other steels don't work. But the fine grain makes the edge able to cut through toilet paper 😅
Blade steel does not determine sharpness. The sharpening does. In my experience and most peoples experience is that fine grained stainless steels like BD1Nand 14C28N or carbon steels are easier to get hair shaving sharp than carbide rich steels that lose shaving sharp quickly but hold a toothy edge long past basic steel have gone dull.
@@thaknobodi Idk I can get a sharper initial edge on s30v than I can on Aus8 for instance.
Sharpening is cake on a fixed angle system . Glad I checked one out tbh . Took all the pain in the ass parts out
Do you have any S90V steel knives? If not, Heinnie has a very good priced Manly Wasp for around £55 and it is a UK legal knife with S90V. Yes you can read the price again. I would love to see a review on it from you.
Have you tried the Orion solaris yet ? I wish I had told them to put the raindrop scales on before shipping tbh . I like it a lot . I also like the titanium kubeys and WE 600 series knives and a few two suns 😂and microtech s is about it . Sometimes I ll like to flip a 9 oz eafengrow 902:titanium . It’s just awesome 👏
Most tough steel I came across is niolox but it’s hell to sharpen.
I bought a used car once and found this knife on the center console. I looked at it and thought "This is a really good knife!". carried it on my car for about 2 years and only did about 2 or 3 odd jobs with it. ended up selling the car a few months back and made sure to take the knife with me. then I started looking for it online to see how much it sells for and HOLY CRAP didn't think a pocket knife could cost almost 200 dollars. ended up trying to figure out why this was so and it turns out its this steel (CPM-S30V) that the blade is made from and that's what makes it so darn expensive. needless to say I'll be taking better care of it from now on
I sharpened a zt 0456 with the 204P and it got real real sharp with a mirror edge but I’m not sure of these mirror edges will hold up . I was told to stay between 600-800 . Is there certain steels that do better with certain finishes on the edge ? Getting technical lately .
I was looking through your videos that you made and didn't find any that had "S110V" in the title. What do you think of the S110V steel, and how do you think it compares to S30V?
JoshSethG I'd like to get something with S110V. From what I've read it seems superior.
looks like you give up toughness for edge retention www.bladehq.com/cat--Best-Knife-Steel-Guide--3368
Great vid. Thanks. And my compliments on how well you speak English. (LOL) Very good info. Keep the coming.
I think VG-10 is better than S30V, my PM2 chipped multiple times breaking down cardboard and carving wood, my Endura has neer chipped once doing the same tasks.
try the buck vantage pro it is s30v and g10 for about 60 USD
Spyderco cpm s30v is more superior then the normal buck s30v
So do you think it was a good choise for the gerber mk1 commemorative dagger?
Great video. Do you know how CTS-XHP compares to S30V?
Nolan Carpenter Thanks Nolan. Nice to hear from you again. I think CTS-XHP posses the corrosion resistance of 440C but the hardness (64 HRC) of D2 tool steel. It's a stainless steel version of D2. CTS-XHP slightly outperforms S30V on edge retention. Smoke eater has a a great video here: ruclips.net/video/SdoNBtc6tmI/видео.html Hope that helps.
Thanks a lot. Had to ask because I've heard some conflicting reports. Anyway, I'm glad you're making these steel videos because they're very informative. Cheers.
I know this is a old video, but I just ordered a Spyderco Military in S30V. My question is do I need to use a diamond stone, & cermaic for sharpening or will I be able to still reasonably use my Japanese water stones?
I use only Arkansas oil stones and it's ok. Guessing you found your water stones work?
you can use whatever you like. With traditional Japanese water stones, you’ll wear them down faster, but you will get an edge on them. Diamond stones work much faster. I use both.
Who does the actual process of heat treatment, Spyderco or Crucible Industries?
+drunkinmaster1 Great question. I think it would be Spyderco using the same element make up and heat treatments. They may differ slightly.
Hello, I veso you have experience with both the N690Co steel than with M390, it is much the difference of the wire seal between these two steels? and the ease of re-sharpening? Have you noticed differences in practical application between N690Co and M390? Which do you recommend for a knife survival / bushcraft compact in size (10/12 cm blade)? Thanks Michele.
N690Co is more corrosion resistant. M390 is tougher and less brittle.
Can you talk about cpm s110v and vg 10 please ? Don’t have a clue how to go about sharpening and maintaining s110v
zac white I don’t have any s110v unfortunately but I would guess it’s as difficult as s30v to sharpen but not as easy as vg10.
S110V is a much harder steel with larger carbides. It tends to keep an edge much longer as it cuts very well when the microbevel gets toothy.
Well done video !!!
hi.. what leatherman multitool hthat has s30v..???????? thank you..
The Leatherman Charge TTi. It has Titanium scales and S30V blade steel. I have a review here: ruclips.net/video/zKSSEacANBE/видео.html
+Sup3rSaiy3n thankyou sir..!
Love your video
No it's not particle metallurgy steel. Anyway, one of my favorite.
Nice vid, and well explained. I wonder how long it will be before a new set of wonder steels will arrive ( the speed things move at nowadays, not long probably ) ? That's one of the exciting things about knives - they continually improve. Of course, then there'll be 14 year old "experts" saying " S30V ? I couldn't possibly carry a knife made with that crappy old steel ! " lol.
zednotzee7 Haha yeah I agree. I guess the knife industry is doing well. As technology improves it should improve all aspects of knife making from design to elements used and so on. I think it's similar to motorbikes. Sales are up by 12% from last year which is driving (pardon the pun) technology behind them. I just wished they would speed up their tech a little to catch up with cars before it's too late.
Thanks for reading me that Wikipedia article...
James Blankenship Thanks for watching
I thought Chris Reeve developed S35v, not S30v.
Jeff Liss nope, s30v
Didn’t Sal Glaser have a hand in S30V?
He did both. He did s35vn because it was easier on manufacturing equipment.
He just read the Wikipedia article on S30V. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Nice video. Whenever I shop for a real nice knife that I’m going to put through it’s paces I never and never will purchase a knife that has a giant round hole in the blade. Why jeopardize the strength of a blade in such a critical part of the blade by putting a hole in it. Spyderco is made for collection or opening mail which I can just open with my hands. Definitely not hard use.
Zach Turner Og I thought you would have drawn the obvious conclusion that these folding knives not meant for ‘hard use’ whatever that means to you. They are more than cable for most if not all ‘cutting’ tasks. They have locks but SHOULD NOT be used like a fixed blade. Such as hitting the spine with a log to split a log, prying open a locked door, using as a climbing assist, splitting pallets or cutting open a car. Therefore the spydie-hole opening feature, which has been present on their knives since the 80s, is appropriately utilised on all of their folding knives.
If you are using one of these knives where the blade breaks you have been using it wrong.
Sup3rSaiy3n a hole is appropriate? How so? Yes a hard use knife for me is a fixed blade. Esee generally and I never beat on a knife. I use tomahawks for the use they were designed for. The hole in the blade does three things. Weaken the blade, makes it wider in the pocket when folded(unnecessary space taking), and is as useless as a Nike check mark. It’s there trademark and is a terrible idea. The mail openers can keep at it but the knife experts don’t have one or have rid thereselves of it.
Spyderco in my opinion is overpriced. You're just paying for the brand and buying into the hype. I will say that out of the box they're razor sharp, but this can be achieved with any blade. I have a Native and i do love it, but i also have a Gerber that is S30V that is identical in sharpness (once i sharpened it) and a fraction of the price. And i do know Gerber is another bandwagon buy, but buying a S30V blade for $30.00 instead of $150.00 is going to win me over. Same statement goes for Benchmade Knives, amazing knives. But you're breaking the bank for their name.
With Spyderco you are paying for steel, design, quality control, and consistent heat treat. Not to be underestimated.