Commander, but You Lose the Game You Lose Your Cards | Commander Clash S17 E03
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Commander, but you can steal your opponents cards legally and FOREVER!
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Seth regrets everything IMMEDIATELY.
Should've been the title of this video hahahahaha
Can't believe Seth didn't tutor for the Contract from Below in the first place
genuinely bananas
This was on of the most interesting videos to watch.
5:07 A Commander game with old school rules would be cool! Bring back damage on the stack and mana burn.
This was WILD! Congrats Tomer and F in chat for Seth's poster, The One Ring.
Isnt this version of the one ring like 450€? 😳
I haven't checked recently, but I was thinking it was like $300 :(
@@MTGGoldfishCommander damn, i dont know the prices in the USA, in Germany it goes for 450-500€ 🫠
$320 or around €288
Current lowest listing for the Borderless Poster version on TCGPlayer is $318 for non-foil and $625 for foil.
Arch of Orazca is sweet. If you have nothing else to do, atleast you can draw with that.
Playing with ante is a bit like poker.
At this point I think I know Seth better as Seth 🤷♂️
*Richard on the podcast if ante was still legal*
"This card is too good to put into your deck because what if you have to ante it. Look at Crim! *Clearly exasperated* He kept getting targeted because his cards were too good! Too shiny! That's why I play Spirited Companion."
Hahaha!!! 100%!
Or something like "I'm actually playing Swords to Plowshares in my deck so that I can ante garbage cards"
*sighs*
I want you guys to rule zero WAY more so I love this.
Yes 😂😂
Yep!
Rule zero and crazy stipulation commander clash are what gets me to click!
For people who never watched Yu-Gi-Oh, Battle City was a tournament arc where the winner can take any single card from their opponents' deck and add it to their own. The idea was for the finalists to gather the 3 Egyptian God cards since those were the strongest cards in the anime. Ironically, sometimes some characters would take the non-Ace monster because adding it to their own deck would lose synergy because most Ace monsters required specific summoning conditions; like you take can take Sheoldred but you run a mono-white deck.
I'm not 100% sure as this was like 2 decades ago, but wasn't it predetermined or maybe even public knowlodge what card exactly each player was ante-ing? So you couldn't just take any card you wanted out of the loser's deck but you basically won a certain card (+ the location thingy)?
@@xEddyTheGr8x I think all the deck lists where made public and it was known what was the strongest card from each players deck but the winner still did decide what card to take.
@@xEddyTheGr8x In the anime, they announce how many "Locater Cards" are wagered beforehand, but the "ante" card is usually determined at the end of the duel. I recall Yugi announcing he was going to get back Joey's Red Eyes Dragon card for him being one of the few instances someone announces what they were getting if they win.
The reason I think the winner picks which card afterwards was a scene where Joey takes Insect Queen instead of the Great Moth from Weevil announcing he'd have no way to summon Great Moth despite Great Moth being the stronger card. The reason being Joey would need a Petit Catepillar and a Cocoon of Evolution card as well.
It kind of makes sense why it felt like it was Public Knowledge though because the "database" shows what the rarest card each character has and most of the time you would take the rarest card because back then cards were pretty generic. Like you'd know to take Blue Eye from Kaiba and Dark Magician from Yugi, but since both then owned a God card you'd take those instead.
@@VRanger100 Yeah, that sounds about right now that I think about it. Well, at least in BC, they finally had actual rules that they (mostly?) adhered to.
I'd still take Sheoldred because it's a 40$ card
The one ring 😂😂 Seth was excited for this until he flipped that…
Shoulda played more basics 😅
And a super fancy expensive version at that!
Good thing this wasn't for real (I assume).
edit: Oh, no. Seth!
@@Welverin They are doing it for realsies - exchanging the cards at GP Vegas!
@@jfrizzell6645 Yeah, I saw a reply by Tomer after my comment, I feel bad for Seth.
Oh god...
@@Welverinthe base version a $100 so Is one like $150+?
I demand a follow-up and the winner has to show themselves holding the ante pile IN THEIR HANDS
We're planning to exchange the cards in Vegas next months rather than shipping them out, but it's coming :)
@@MTGGoldfishCommanderI love that you guys have made it a habit of going to GP Vegas every year
@@MTGGoldfishCommander Wait, you did it for REAL!?
Seth, if you see this, I'm so sorry.
@@MTGGoldfishCommander better get picture of the winner with the cards
@@MTGGoldfishCommander Surely when in Vegas y'all double down and play another ante game?
We played ante all the time, but didn't want to lose our cards so we would alternate each time we played buying a pack of revised back then, shuffle the pack and play for the top card of that.
We didn't lose a card, expanded our collection and played all day at the same time for a prize and gloating.
WAAAY back in the day when we did this, most people just used a deck where they didn't mind losing anything in it. Lots of common lanawar elfs and giant growths, .. cards you could replace for less than a quarter, but could still get the job done.
This is sick. Thought of doing something like this myself. Gambling but without the insane lows lol.
Both Seth and Tomer trying to make everyone ante their entire deck is crazy
Well one actual positive of paper magic is that they can do things like this.
Is it realy a positive 😅
You can always play for money even online. Just make a pot and the winner takes it 😊 I love playing usual games for money. Just a little bit for the fun.
Playing online for tickets would be spicy 😂
@@tobiaskrieger9481 to each their own.
That said, i hope we can agree on this, cards that effect the winnings are not good design.
@@Shimatzu95you are on a magic channeling and don’t like gambling?
@@DiscardatRandom Not sure i get what you mean.
"Guys we gotta kill Phil" ... Tomer underworld breaches into an infinite ante loop
I love how the intro is basically everyone going "Everyone is going to ante their entire decks and then I'm going to win"
Seth and Tomer took Crim to another level and are LITERALLY taking the tables stuff.
“Is phil my harley quinn?” LOL
Do it cowards, play a game where damage is on the stack!
Crim's rug really tied the game together, man!
This was so much fun!! My prediction is a bunch of other commander shows are going to start doing this after seeing this video
I came across an "Ante League" format a while back and, while I bought cards for it, I was never able to convince anyone else to play.
Basically, players started with a few random booster packs + however many basic lands they wanted, and then they'd play games with an ante. Except that the ante amount was however many cards each player wanted and you *had* to use every card that you had won. So, there was people with 200+ card decks who were ante'ing 50 cards. It sounded wild!
If you ever want to do this let me know this sounds amazing
What a great Rule 0 game idea!
What an AMAZING idea, I've always wanted to see these cards in action.
i can't believe tomer hates weddings and true love in general.
Perhaps that may change should he receive one ring upon his hand.
Casting a Minds Eye into a Price of Glory was a certified Seth moment
I think somebody had the idea already. But imagine content with ante for charity gameplay
This is the best episode of commander clash yet
This game was fun but fucking stressful to watch. Ante can stay dead lol
There is no way I would play a 40$+ card in an ante game haha thats nuts
7:20 so Alara revisit when pls? I love the plane of Alara and it’s story and we need to see now that the phyrexians did their nonsense how the plane has changed
I mean the invasion didn’t really scar planes. We have yet to see a card with Phyrexian elements in its art since MoM besides the non canon recycled art of the big score and MH3.
@@laurentrobitaille2204 you’re not entirely wrong it’s just we haven’t ‘been’ to Alara in over a decade and, in loose release order with some omitted for brevity. Here are sets/events that have occurred since zendikar and eldrazi pt1, scars of mirrodin/phyrexia pt1, gatecrash, return to ravnica, kaladesh, tarkir, eldraine, theros, innistrad, eldrazi pt2, strixhaven, kaldheim, kamigawa revisit, baldurs gate, capenna, phyrexia pt2, shit we’ve even had multiple un-sets. Plenty of time (and events) for things to have changed tho is my point.
Seth with booster boxes: "I kinda like this!"
Seth with ante: "I kinda like this!"
Seth with Russian roulette: "I kinda like this!"
Literally just YESTERDAY my mom asked me “do you guys gamble on this game?”
Around the 27 min mark, Tomer played tutored Crim's turn to use the mana he gave him. He should have taken 2 damage because of the two rugs out.
When tomer uses the red copy spell to copy three steps ahead, would he not have to pay the addition spree cost not just copy the spell? Or is that correct and just copy’s the effects on spree that were chosen by the caster?
"If a spell with spree is copied, the effect that creates the copy may allow you to choose new targets. You cannot choose new modes."
It's similar to, say, copying a spell with kicker or a spell like Wild Guess with an additional cost. You copy the spell as it is and don't pay the additional costs (even if you wanted to pay them).
@@DeadlyGrim thank you very much for the clarification 🤘
I would love to watch a Rule 0 gameplay with the Grandeur creatures.
I think this just dethroned the Power 9 episode as my favorite Commander Clash lol. Amazing episode
I love Crim relating in every way from music taste to tv/anime taste
Can't wait for the silver border cards episode(s)
Goddamn, I gotta try playing against time with ante cuz that one ring is a huge win if u can get it. Oof Seth
This was one of the best Magic videos on YT! Well done, crew!
That was great, the combo at the end was so perfect. Poor Seth though, very unlucky.
WHAT R U DOING SETH? Gotta bring the budget on this week😅😂🤣
My favorite Ante card is: Blyte, Bad Influence.
boo
The only thing I could see topping this if you play a game were everyone runs Shahrazad (plus a bunch of spell-copying effects)
I'm not sure if youtube lets you upload videos that long.
We've talked about it but sadly the same logistical issues that need it banned for tournaments would create logistical issues for the videos. Namely: we not only would need a whole day or two to record something satisfying but also someone would have to edit that mess
Do it without copy effects, then. Also: each Sheharazad plays faster than the one before because the deck sizes decrease. I think that episode could go viral @Niuttuc
Shahrazad is on our list, we just haven't figured out how to edit it yet since the game is going to take forever.
@@MTGGoldfishCommander 24 hour stream LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!
Figuratively stealing each other's cards.
You guys got to do this again. Can’t believe the ending was ante everything or I win
Where are those floating mana tracker tokens from? They look like DMU lands? 12:19
They never answered me last time so I ended up making a template myself using the theros lands. Find some people to go in with you and it’s cheap to have proxies printed
Awww. I wanted to see Crim play Spiteful Visions. It's one of my favourite cards and it is so a Crim card.
Ugh, I was okay with every single other player winning except for Tomer, big sadge.
I couldnt help but say "rugburn" in my head each time the Rug dealt damage
I wonder how many black lotuses were anted back in the day
Isn't the Poster One Ring like $400?! ($800 for foil). My heart aches for Seth 😅. Wonder what kinda conversation they had after the show? 😆
You win so, you lose some.
I wanna hear more from brewer’s kitchen he always gets cut off and he’s too nice to get loud
I also keep telling them this - probably a result of the little bit of delay in everyone's video of him from Germany - I would like them to be a bit more disciplined in staying quieter on other people''s turns!
No surprise everyone runs Contract from Below.
This is actually nostalgic lol, I remember a run with my friends that I lost 4-5 cards straight through ante. Nothing of value but man it felt bad at the time…. My heart still misses my 9th benalish hero lol…. Also we did play with our entire collection as a library so anti a land could mean instant loss for the player as lands were so hard to come by at the time. (We did not have a shop to play at, dad would bring back packs and starter decks randomly after work for us all)
Let’s go gambling !!!
The stakes couldn't be higher after that one ring pull
Unironically would play this with proxies just to get a kick out the mechanic in paper.
51:36 I literally screamed at the screen: "That is so COOL!"
You're so cool, Tomer, for winning with such a sweet combo :D
Say what you will about Crimson Vow, the trailer was awesome
Timmerian fiends doing work
This is very fun one of the managers at my local game stores used to play for chosen ante and use the black/jeweled bird it was so much fun.
Thank goodness ante is gone because it always felt so bad. This episode was so much fun though, so thank you commander clash crew!
Man, now I wanna play with ante. :^D
flipping a like 700$ one ring was so good
My rare from my first magic pack was Darkpact.
On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" we go all in on the first flop and lose our shirt. Will Seth get escorted out for counting cards or will Crim hit it big at the craps table? Tune-in to find out!
Can we get a jank week where you can have any card as your commander? I'd love to see someone run Astral Drift as their commander or something else that simply can't be built around easily otherwise.
We've actually been discussing this, is it something people would like to see?
@@MTGGoldfishCommander A thousand times yes!
Time to play a fetch land as my commander!
Brilliant idea!
I sincerely hope this was just for show. Seeing that One Ring hurts my soul, lol
Nope, they said it's for realsies - they are going to bring the cards and exchange them at Magicon Vegas - hope they make a video of the exchange!
Need to do all unset decks when you meet up in Vegas!
These ante cards are busted in the 1996 Microprose MTG computer game. I would often just stack a deck with a bunch of Tempest Efreets and Bronze Tablets, then go hunt down dragons to steal their moxen and sol rings. Just one more reason that's the best MTG digital game of all time.
If I don't see Tomer playing The One Ring (THAT version!) the next Commander Clash, then I'm not gonna believe in this!
It's impossible that Seth will give that card away.
But the episode was a blast! I loved every minute of it!
We're exchanging the cards at MagicCon Vegas next month, so it won't be next episode, but I'm sure Tomer will be playing it in the future, unfortunately for me.
@@MTGGoldfishCommander Works for me, hehehehe. Thanks for the answer, Seth.
That final loop the winner played was mind blowing
Dang so early the only comment is a bot
I'm at work so I'll have to watch later, but I think every Commander Clash from now on should be played with Ante. That sounds AMAZING!
This theme is amazing! Never thought of adding ante back to the game. Maybe a new format for Vegas
I've been building a Commander draft cube with Ante cards, so I'm always happy to see Ante cards in action!
The One Ring (borderless poster version) Seth lost is currently going for $400 on TCGplayer 😭
At least he was thrilled after taking Phil's Mondrake. FORTY DOLLARS! 🤣
I am unreasonably glad that the ante game had such an absolutely insane finisher.
5 color was a format played at the Magic Invitational that Kai won. The format was 250 card decks of all five colors, and you have to play with ante. Except winning doesn't necessarily matter - the format was structured such that whoever won the most value in the ante won. So Jeweled Bird broke the meta - Kai won because he was able to Jeweled Bird his ante and replace whatever valuable card he anted with a dollar rare, and since he had already won one match, his opponent (Dan Clegg) couldn't technically win no matter what he did.
1:54
€ 29.999,00 is the cheapest one ring in this precise printing - holiday release, double rainbow foil - available at cardmarket at the time I watch this. (The recent average still is 5k. So yeah.) That is one hell of an ante to hit.
This is unhinged lol
@MTGGoldfishCommander You should do this every year and have to include to cards you won in previous years. And if you sign and date the cards, you can track how many times cards have been swapped
So how does Ante interact with your opponents commanders?
The rule that lets players move their commander back to their command zone specifies graveyard, exile and hidden zones, and Ante fits none of those descriptions.
So, by that reasoning Ante would let you permanently take away their commander, provided you have an Ante card that lets you do that.
Been binge watching commander clash and have to say this episode was great. I’m so sorry for Seth. I do have a question. What are people’s opinion on plane chase? I know you probably couldn’t do it on mtgo but now that you guys are playing in paper do you think you’ll ever had that to the chaos?
You know what? If you gp back on the be...Ante and keep your cards, I wouldnt care. Just the excerside of ahowing the mechanic was a blast! What a fun game
Brings me back to playing Magic in Kindergarten where we were indeed playing for ante, and I lost my Lord of the Pit! I was crushed, but that was the game: you win some, you lose some!
This might be the best premise so far
I liked Phil's deck because it barely did any ante.
But then I just thought every ante card was a feels bad. I'm very glad it was removed from magic.
"Look what I'm doing now, thats worth dying for."
"Thats a risk I'm willing to take for card draw."
Phil-osophy
Spoiler ahead:
Usually when people play commander, they only concede on their turn. Should have made it a rule this game 😈
Tomer with 3 new decks: 🤑
So the special version of the One Ring is like 500€ in EU. If I were Seth I would be furious, but Seth just laughs it off.
Randy Buehler was asked in an interview once what was the highest stakes he played for. His answer wasn't one of the grand prix finales he won or lost, but a game of ante where he got his Black Lotus in the pile. He was about to lose, and then draw his Jeweled Bird, that allowed him to remove the lotus from the ante.
kind of a bummer ending, just because tomer's deck is so unfun
if you have a generic pile of staples and combo pieces, it does not become a cool deck just because you technically finish with an on-theme card
Tomer is Budget Commander until he plays for ante. Then he becomes a cEDH storm player 😂😂😂😂😂